http://www.mimbres.com/holp/holpath/chapter_5.htm
Footnote 9.
mMMMMmmm meat honey! But is it atkins friendly? >:D
I believe it was Atkins who stated that honey is actually the most potent, hence most destructive, form of sugar.
It never ceases to amaze me how easily some people assume that something is better for you if it is 'natural', or bad if it is 'manmade'.
yes, but didn't Atkins die a premature death from a heart attack? ;)
i am proud to say my man lost OVER 100lbs on atkins. His cholesterol is now healthy, and blood pressure NORMAL.
there are many natural things that are harmful.
Quote from: Caleb on February 03, 2008, 04:44 PM NHFT
yes, but didn't Atkins die a premature death from a heart attack? ;)
No. He died from a head injury.
I've been moving (slowly yet steadily) towards a diet of more healthy (and increasingly organically grown) foods and find many benefits.
Just a few years ago (before adjusting my diet) I was telling people that I have not felt better since I was a teenager.
Now I say that I don't recall EVER feeling -consistently- better. EVER!
It's not just what we put put into our bodies (& minds) that are important, but also the CRAP we leave out.
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on February 03, 2008, 06:45 PM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on February 03, 2008, 04:44 PM NHFT
yes, but didn't Atkins die a premature death from a heart attack? ;)
No. He died from a head injury.
Whether he slipped and hit his head, or had a heart attack and hit his head, 72 isn't a "premature" age to die.
Quality vs. quantity?
Give me just 10 more min. of how I feel these days . . . ;D
More about the associated costs. Many families in NH just grow their own.
Quote from: KBCraig on February 03, 2008, 07:43 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on February 03, 2008, 06:45 PM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on February 03, 2008, 04:44 PM NHFT
yes, but didn't Atkins die a premature death from a heart attack? ;)
No. He died from a head injury.
Whether he slipped and hit his head, or had a heart attack and hit his head, 72 isn't a "premature" age to die.
I'm hoping to grab another 30 years after 72. I don't know about you.
...an "entertaining" thread.
Kola
Quote from: Caleb on February 03, 2008, 11:25 PM NHFTI'm hoping to grab another 30 years after 72. I don't know about you.
Dude, you made it. ;D 1972 -> 1982 -> 1992 - 2002. Best wishes on moving forward!
I'm so happy to be here now. 30 more?
My grandmother lived to 3 days short of 102, or was it 2 days short of 103. 8) TRUST ME, She would not appreciate us keeping even these NUMBERS on her. She would tell you to "
mind your own damned business".
She was awesome - each day.
She said that she had no intention of dying on her own! ;D She said someone would need kill her. :)
I say bless her STRONG (yet peaceful) WILL!
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on February 03, 2008, 06:45 PM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on February 03, 2008, 04:44 PM NHFT
yes, but didn't Atkins die a premature death from a heart attack? ;)
No. He died from a head injury.
After decades of keeping trim on his low-carb diet, he was hospitalized in a coma, after sustaining severe head injury from a fall. At six feet tall, he weighed only 195 pounds upon entering the hospital. He was fed intravenously at the hospital, and gained 63 pounds by the time he died eight days later, while still in a coma.
63 lbs in 8 days? no wonder he croaked, the hospital over fed him!
that is almost 8lbs of food a day.. that is a TUN of food to eat in a day, which i am sure some percent of it was pure water... but, come on...
Indeed. Not only does it appear that he was way overfed at the hospital, but he suffered from a condition that caused fluid retention, so apparently the intravenous fare just accumulated within him. :o
Atkins ordered nurses to put twinkie creme in his IV. It said it would help him lose weight even faster.
It didn;t work.
He actually blew up.
Twnkie-shit everywhere.
the adkins diet is a fricken joke.
Kola
why is it a joke?
It helped Danny a tun, I mean he was huge back in his fat days. He is healthier now than ever. He changed his diet from a box of grapenuts and milk, to 2 eggs and 2 strips of bacon, instead of a few whoppers for lunch, now its a chefs salad, and instead of a few whole pizzas, its roasted chicken, salad, and broccoli. He is at a normal weight, rather than being 100 lbs heavier, his bp is normal, and cholestrol is perfect, despite the scarey bacon and egg breakfast. His doctor was so impressed, that he went on the diet, and we went in for a check, and they said dont waste our time, come in if you get sick. Because you go into ketoses, you do need lots of water, to flush the kidneys, and a daily good vitamin, because you cant live purely on meat, and the diet is NOT pure meat, it is forms of protein, and complex carbohydrates. You must eat every few hours because there is minimal carbs, and they get burned up fast, so what you eat is your energy that goes to burning fat, rather than simple carbs, like sugar. He claims he has more energy because he is eating well at lunch, rather than getting sleepy during the day from a high carb pasta lunch. Under 20 carbs a day is weight loss, so we work his diet around that. Peanutbutter and diabetic jelly on a low carb, high fiber wrap is a great snack!
I guess any diet can be bad if you dont do it correct, and you should be under a care of a doctor, like Dan did, monitering his blood, making sure things were all normal. He tried weight watchers, and other diets, but nothing worked, he had very high blood pressure.
I mostly eat atkins, but eat high carbs in moderation, i think i need to hit the gym for my pot belly!
Quote from: kola on February 04, 2008, 03:03 PM NHFT
Atkins ordered nurses to put twinkie creme in his IV. It said it would help him lose weight even faster.
It didn;t work.
He actually blew up.
Twnkie-shit everywhere.
the adkins diet is a fricken joke.
Kola
I dont know where you got your twisted twinkie info from, i searched high and low for that one. He was in a coma when he died, s I cant image how he ordered a nurse to put twinkies in his IV. No hospital would do that, so I am going to assume that you are joking. Plus, that makes for one kick ass last wish if it was true! If i knew I was going to die, bring on the twinkies!!
BTW Its undetermined if he had a heart condition, but the slip and fall is correct.
http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/atkins.asp
Everything I know about Twinkies I learned from watching 'Family Guy'
he slipped and fell on a twinkie.
i thought it was ice he fell on.
So, you were joking about the twinkie IV and exploding, and he slipped on one??
Atkins is the only diet with which I've had success. I lost about thirty pounds last fall and felt better than I have in a long while. I got off the diet and have gained back most of the weight, but that is my fault for indulging from Thanksgiving into the new year. :-\ I admired Dr. Atkins for railing against the government's low-fat diet propaganda and more so for popularizing a diet that has helped me.
he slipped and fell on a twinkie...ummm.. that was on the ice.
a frozen twinkie.
the twinkie survived.
i dont get your humor at all.
I've never understood why so many people have made fun of Dr. Atkins' death and/or claimed his death was caused by his diet or his failure to practice his own methods. :(
because he was a commie.
him and Lee Harvey Oswald were both commies and twinkie addicts.
Kola
Quote from: Hollywood on February 04, 2008, 08:42 PM NHFT
I've never understood why so many people have made fun of Dr. Atkins' death and/or claimed his death was caused by his diet or his failure to practice his own methods. :(
I think the word is 'anti-intuitive'. Some folks just can't wrap their minds around it, because it flies in the face of everything they have ever heard about eating. Ilost about 50 lbs since a year ago January starting with Atkins and morphing it into a little
South Park South Beach and a little Mediterranean. I lost a little ground from spending too much time in CT over the Holidays, but, not much.
Hey when someone bakes you a birthday cake, you have to eat some ;D
Quote from: Hollywood on February 04, 2008, 08:42 PM NHFT
I've never understood why so many people have made fun of Dr. Atkins' death and/or claimed his death was caused by his diet or his failure to practice his own methods. :(
I dont understand either.
It is difficult for a person to understand when that same person has no interest in understanding.
Understand?
Kola
Quote from: Beth221 on February 04, 2008, 09:06 PM NHFT
Quote from: Hollywood on February 04, 2008, 08:42 PM NHFT
I've never understood why so many people have made fun of Dr. Atkins' death and/or claimed his death was caused by his diet or his failure to practice his own methods. :(
I dont understand either.
It may stem from Adele Davis failing to live forever
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adelle_Davis
or,
http://www.halhigdon.com/Articles/Fixx.htm
She went with Ho-Ho's instead of Twinkies.
Kola
btw Steven Barrett is a disgrace to have MD after his name. King Duck of Quacks.
If you never eat meat.
If you never drink Alcohol.
If you never Smoke.
If you jog every day.
If you say your prayers.
If you eat raw food.
If you never have sex.
If you have a lot of sex.
If you drink coffee.
If you drink Green tea.
If you eat soy.
If you eat Pizza.
If Roger is the big brother you never wanted.
If Roger is not the big brother you never wanted.
If you eat Bacon.
If you don't eat Bacon. (Blasphemy!)
If you don't masturbate.
If you do masturbate. ( God kills a puppy every time ya do)
You are going to die.
Just a little tip from your friend Pat K
Yur right Pat we all leave this physical world. No big deal for me.
I dont mind death (in fact I welcome the day) but I have issues with long term suffering and fighting chronic illness.
There are no magic bullets. but common sense.
Diets come and go and they never stay because they don't work LONG TERM. Diets even have the word DIE in it. DIEts.
I find the biggest problem is a deficiency:
common sense.
i am trying to understand why you think its a "frinken joke" his methods? the act of ketosis? the 20 g's of carbs or less?
Magic bullets coming soon from the Shire Silver project. ;)
www.shiresilver.org
Well now having typed the above,
let me say that the Atkins diet is
very effective.
It is the only diet I have ever been on were I am not hungry.
I don't mean gee I am a little hungry, I mean I am gonna
kill some one if I don't eat soon. Hungry to the point your
mouth is salivating to the point of drooling.
When I was on Atkins I would actually forget to eat
some times.
It is hard to stay on long term for a Beer drinker like me.
I just fell off it again over the holidays.
There are arguments galore over the diet.
All I know is it works.
there is a reason why dan drinks miller light, 3.2, mic ultra is 2.8, guiness is 9. Trust me, he aint drinking miller for the taste..! very easy to drink your carbs in beer. Dan got kicked out of an all you can eat prime rib grill, in TEXAS, and he caused the hooters to shut down in RI, because of all you can eat wing night. hehe
I'm glad I can't read the labels on those bottles of Honey Brown and that they don't have them on the glasses of Murph'ys lager.
Quote from: kola on February 04, 2008, 09:33 PM NHFT
I find the biggest problem is a deficiency:
common sense.
:clap:
You got it, buddy.
Common sense beats scientific fact every time.
After all, common folk don't need to check their premises... they just
know.
In fact, common sense is
so infallible, that common folk can afford to make fun of facts whenever they fly in the face of common sense.
Now go back to sleep... and don't you worry none about the
facts now, ya hear? With common sense, things are always as they seem!
;D ;D ;D
Yeah, it does seem to be the old issue of scientific inquiry vs. "common knowledge." It's too bad that so many people are quick to revel in the misfortune of those doing the work of paradigm smashing.
Mmm, cake. Mmm, beer. Mmm, Hooters ;D
Congrats on the low-carb success, Lloyd, PatK and Dan.
Thank you PatK for the words of wisdom.
mmMMMmm Hooters!! I love chicken wings!! Atkins heaven! Dan and I get 50 wings, I eat 10, and Dan put away the rest!
Quote from: Beth221 on February 06, 2008, 10:44 AM NHFT
mmMMMmm Hooters!! I love chicken wings!! Atkins heaven! Dan and I get 50 wings, I eat 10, and Dan put away the rest!
They say that Hooters has the best wings. I've also heard that the breasts there are very nice to.
(sorry, I couldn't resist.)
thats why I can only eat 10, I am distracted!
hehe