Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 26, 2009, 10:01 AM NHFT
Candia horse owner faces 17 charges (http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Candia+horse+owner+faces+17+charges&articleId=9a37e83f-1e7d-4bc4-b456-79a67a3c620e)
You see, this is why I'm saying we need to assemble.
25 signatures can over turn these charges!
STOP PAYING LAWYERS....
ASSEMBLE!Again, I will try to bring an assembly up on Monday, March 30th at 9pm
25 people can form an assembly of, by and for the people.
You run this country but you do not assemble to tell it what you want from it, or what you don't want from it. We the people have a voice but we do not assemble. An assembly has more power than you think. But everyone has been so demoralized to think you don't have a voice and, somewhere, we all lost what an assembly is or how to do it.
This call is going to be Monday night at 9pm
Conference Dial-in Number: (641) 715-3620
Access Code: 269161#
If you understand something needs to happen please be on that call.
I only speak the truth as I see it and if you disagree with me that is fine, we live in a FREE country... Or do we?
United We Stand!
bradporter1@live.com
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 26, 2009, 10:01 AM NHFT
Candia horse owner faces 17 charges (http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Candia+horse+owner+faces+17+charges&articleId=9a37e83f-1e7d-4bc4-b456-79a67a3c620e)
You see, this is why I'm saying we need to assemble.
25 signatures can over turn these charges!
STOP PAYING LAWYERS.... ASSEMBLE!
Can we just assemble here at nhunderground.com? I think we have 25 people here...
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 01:39 PM NHFT
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
http://www.hjrbonds.com/assembly.php
Quote from: thinkliberty on March 26, 2009, 01:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 26, 2009, 10:01 AM NHFT
Candia horse owner faces 17 charges (http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Candia+horse+owner+faces+17+charges&articleId=9a37e83f-1e7d-4bc4-b456-79a67a3c620e)
You see, this is why I'm saying we need to assemble.
25 signatures can over turn these charges!
STOP PAYING LAWYERS.... ASSEMBLE!
Can we just assemble here at nhunderground.com? I think we have 25 people here...
We really are assembling but we need a scribe, minutes, and signatures, oh and we need a Great Registry to file everything. This will be like the registry of deeds for them.
If we put all this together, we can over turn the crap that is going on.... TRUTH!
The real reason for the phone call is to get serious people interested and talking.
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 01:39 PM NHFT
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
http://www.hjrbonds.com/assembly.php
The link does not contain an answer to the question ...
Quote from: George Donnelly on March 26, 2009, 01:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 01:39 PM NHFT
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
http://www.hjrbonds.com/assembly.php
The link does not contain an answer to the question ...
Have you listen to it?...
An assembly is of, by and for the people.
The only true form of Government we have is a republic... ya, ya, I feel some of you rolling your eyes right now already...
But that is truth and that means the government works for you... not the other way around. An assemble is flesh and blood beings coming together with sweat equity... (now I know that one will get some silly responses...)
But if you think seriously,... you take your time to form an assembly you have equity in it. And if you understand that we are in a fiat currency, based on your labor, the assembly is worth something... well really more than something... It is what the people want and the government must obey. It has value.
Quote from: George Donnelly on March 26, 2009, 01:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 01:39 PM NHFT
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
http://www.hjrbonds.com/assembly.php
The link does not contain an answer to the question ...
No but it does contain links to the "accepted for value" method as well as links to the "Million Heir Club". $500 for entry into that. Then you can join "Club Retro" for the paltry sum of $4800.
Looks like another PAYtriot scam site.
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 02:15 PM NHFT
Quote from: George Donnelly on March 26, 2009, 01:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 01:39 PM NHFT
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
http://www.hjrbonds.com/assembly.php
The link does not contain an answer to the question ...
No but it does contain links to the "accepted for value" method as well as links to the "Million Heir Club". $500 for entry into that. Then you can join "Club Retro" for the paltry sum of $4800.
Looks like another PAYtriot scam site.
There is no such thing as money, it is only debt. And these assemblies have nothing to do with any of those fee's.
I have never paid for anything from this site nor would I recommend that anyone does. Those fees are only if you want to play in there system with debt.
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 02:06 PM NHFT
Quote from: George Donnelly on March 26, 2009, 01:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 01:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 01:39 PM NHFT
Perhaps you could post a link to an explanation of what an "assembly" is and why your claim is valid prior to asking people to dial up your conference?
http://www.hjrbonds.com/assembly.php
The link does not contain an answer to the question ...
Have you listen to it?...
An assembly is of, by and for the people.
The only true form of Government we have is a republic... ya, ya, I feel some of you rolling your eyes right now already...
But that is truth and that means the government works for you... not the other way around. An assemble is flesh and blood beings coming together with sweat equity... (now I know that one will get some silly responses...)
But if you think seriously,... you take your time to form an assembly you have equity in it. And if you understand that we are in a fiat currency, based on your labor, the assembly is worth something... well really more than something... It is what the people want and the government must obey. It has value.
Well folks have a right to peaceably assemble to petition the government for redress of grievances under the 1st amendment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Petition_and_assembly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Petition_and_assembly)
I wouldn't take advice from scam artists, GENERAL.
They are promoting the "redemption" scheme, where it is posited that the govt takes out a bond in your ALL CAPS name and that one can settle all debts with the magic phrase "accepted for value". For the right price, these scammers (as have many before them) will share their "secrets". Or, they'll just take your money and leave you high and dry. Either way, you get hosed.
HJR 192... Does anyone know what that means?
It is house joint resolution 192 when we all became a part of the same club in D.C. and it was against public policy to pay debt. There for Accepted for Value Exempt from Levy means that you can do this on anything and it is paid for by your signature.
I've studied this for years and I know it will just be made fun of but just think for a second all this is true. Which it is...
How would you feel?
Money = Debt
Fiat currency = your labor
Admiralty law = system in place now
God given rights = you
Why do we rent money from a private bank?
Why do government officials have bonds?
An HJR bond, form that site, gives you 300 million in your account with the treasury... Which you can then write promissory notes from.
All paper work is FRAUD... That is the bottom line! After all who wrote it... someone that thinks they are smarter than you and you will obey.... But we have never been taught any of this...
Man, how I wish I could speak to each of you face to face and tell you what I've learned about our system...
Ok, now I'm ready for everyone to have a field day and call this all another scam...
Are you going to claim you've gotten AFV to work? Post your evidence, please.
All I'm saying is that it is all FRAUD.
That is why we need to assemble. Please don't mix words and try stating that I am promoting people to buy from this website!
I AM NOT.
Don't ever buy from anyone that is trying to promote this stuff, you need to learn on your own what is really going on!
So we get 25+ people together form an assembly, do you think the government is just going to roll over and say damn you got us "thegeneral" we can't just ignore your assembly you win.
Quote from: thinkliberty on March 26, 2009, 03:43 PM NHFT
So we get 25+ people together form an assembly, do you think the government is just going to roll over and say damn you got us "thegeneral" we can't just ignore your assembly you win.
25 is the least, we need the backing of the people...
Why is it that we have a government that enslaves us and we roll over and say damn you got us "bankers" we can't just ignore your fraud you win.
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 26, 2009, 03:52 PM NHFT
Quote from: thinkliberty on March 26, 2009, 03:43 PM NHFT
So we get 25+ people together form an assembly, do you think the government is just going to roll over and say damn you got us "thegeneral" we can't just ignore your assembly you win.
25 is the least, we need the backing of the people...
Why is it that we have a government that enslaves us and we roll over and say damn you got us "bankers" we can't just ignore your fraud you win.
Want specific fraud are you referring to?
Everything in admiralty law is fraud on our soil... Do you live on an ocean?
Admiralty law (also referred to as maritime law) is a distinct body of law which governs maritime questions and offenses. It is a body of both domestic law governing maritime activities, and private international law governing the relationships between private entities which operate vessels on the oceans. It deals with matters including marine commerce, marine navigation, shipping, sailors, and the transportation of passengers and goods by sea. Admiralty law also covers many commercial activities, although land based or occurring wholly on land, that are maritime in character.
we need a conference call
Cite a case where the tactic you're suggesting worked. It must be a case that we can research that is in the public record. Do that, and maybe, just maybe, people will take the whole 'admiralty law' thing a bit more seriously. Til then, they got the guns dude, they make the rules, dude, and that as they say, is that.
Quote from: slave_3646 on March 26, 2009, 04:31 PM NHFT
Cite a case where the tactic you're suggesting worked. It must be a case that we can research that is in the public record. Do that, and maybe, just maybe, people will take the whole 'admiralty law' thing a bit more seriously. Til then, they got the guns dude, they make the rules, dude, and that as they say, is that.
In Common law we have the right to travel with out a licence, in admiralty law you need a licence to "drive"... the word play they use is half the battle. Do you know when you regester your car you sign it over to the state and they rent it to you with the registration. If you bought a car brand new and got clear title with a chattle deed you would not have to register it. Or have a licence to travel.CASE #1: "The use of the highway for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common fundamental right of which the public and individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.
CASE #2: "The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common law right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579.
CASE #3: "The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the Fifth Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.
CASE #4: "The right to travel is a well-established common right that does not owe its existence to the federal government. It is recognized by the courts as a natural right." Schactman v. Dulles 96 App DC 287, 225 F2d 938, at 941.
In Hertado v. California, 110 US 516, the U.S Supreme Court states very plainly:
"The state cannot diminish rights of the people."
And in Bennett v. Boggs, 1 Baldw 60,
"Statutes that violate the plain and obvious principles of common right and common reason are null and void."
Would we not say that these judicial decisions are straight to the point -- that there is no lawful method for government to put restrictions or limitations on rights belonging to the people? Other cases are even more straight forward:
"The assertion of federal rights, when plainly and reasonably made, is not to be defeated under the name of local practice." Davis v. Wechsler, 263 US 22, at 24
"Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or legislation which would abrogate them." Miranda v. Arizona, 384 US 436, 491.
"The claim and exercise of a constitutional right cannot be converted into a crime." Miller v. US, 230 F 486, at 489.
There can be no sanction or penalty imposed upon one because of this exercise of constitutional rights." Sherer v. Cullen, 481 F 946
The common right of ways (individual equal rights of use not requiring prior approval but no individual can infringe upon any other individuals equal right) are contained within the collectively owned roads and sidewalks (joint ownership requiring prior approval from all the other owners who can dictate terms and conditions of use).
Where foot travel predominates (sidewalks) there are not many rules to restrict individuals exercising their right of way common rights but as the speed of locomotion increases (on roads) the potential for harm to other individuals and their property has deemed the requiring of terms and conditions of use.
Magic words will not save us. Hell, cops don't even know more than a fraction of the law themselves. Assembling, resolutions, general calls to action, in and of themselves will do nothing to advance freedom. They never have.
We assembled more than 25 people on Sunday and the government did not crumble. What happens after the 25 people get together in your plan, THEGENERAL?
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 11:00 PM NHFT
We assembled more than 25 people on Sunday and the government did not crumble. What happens after the 25 people get together in your plan, THEGENERAL?
Storm the Bastille!
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 11:00 PM NHFT
We assembled more than 25 people on Sunday and the government did not crumble. What happens after the 25 people get together in your plan, THEGENERAL?
We organize with signatures... This holds weight.
Now I know I'm going to hear a sly remark for each word I say so here it comes...
We only have one true form or government here, a republic. In this Republic it goes:
God
Self... after self...
Government
and so on...God gave us inalienable rights:
Natural rights (also called moral rights or inalienable rights) are rights which are not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs of a particular society or polity. In contrast of inalienable rights, fraud... or as you all call it, legal rights (sometimes also called civil rights or statutory rights) are rights conveyed by a particular polity, codified into legal statutes by some form of legislature, and as such are contingent upon local laws, customs, or beliefs. Natural rights are thus necessarily universal, whereas legal rights are culturally and politically relative.
What I say over and over is the system of fraud holds no water with no evidence. Evidence is someone saying that something else exists. Now if everyone woke up and submitted evidence that we had a Republic then we could limit government to protection only. The government would always listen to the people, which it was always meant to but we stopped telling it what to do and our parents signed as over to this fraudulent corporation that tricked everyone that we needed to work non stop to put wealth in their pockets as they hoard it. Now that they control everything that happens you do as they say or else, but we don't understand our right to assemble, sign a document... with all our signatures, to tell them... well how do I put it??? Oh ya... PISS OFF.
I am nuts... granted, but you, yes you that read this, you are no better. But if all you do is write on a forum about what sucks how do you think anything will ever get done that way?
Ok, that's enough for now... I'm ready... let me have it...
QuoteGod gave us inalienable rights
You do realize that many here are atheists/agnostics?
QuoteNow if everyone woke up and submitted evidence that we had a Republic then we could limit government to protection only.
A Republic is governance via laws.
We have a pool going on here as to when the general disappears.
Assemblies of people usually accomplish more harm then good IMO... and in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.
As far as the website goes... either you've been taken in by a scam artist or you're trying to scam people here, you've come to the wrong place... Liberty activists such as those here tend to be notorious skeptics... Ha Ha you wasted your time, no money for you from anyone here.
Here is a good thread on what these guys are trying to pull... not that I expect anyone to fall for some stupid crap like that.
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2509
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 07:11 AM NHFT
Here is a good thread on what these guys are trying to pull... not that I expect anyone to fall for some stupid crap like that.
http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2509
Dead wrong... I've never heard of this...
Quote from: BillKauffman on March 27, 2009, 06:33 AM NHFT
QuoteGod gave us inalienable rights
You do realize that many here are atheists/agnostics?
QuoteNow if everyone woke up and submitted evidence that we had a Republic then we could limit government to protection only.
A Republic is governance via laws.
You didn't know... I am god...
And as a Republic I see it as protection only...
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 27, 2009, 06:42 AM NHFT
We have a pool going on here as to when the general disappears.
My bet is he gets kicked off before he quits...
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 06:54 AM NHFT
Assemblies of people usually accomplish more harm then good IMO... and in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.
As far as the website goes... either you've been taken in by a scam artist or you're trying to scam people here, you've come to the wrong place... Liberty activists such as those here tend to be notorious skeptics... Ha Ha you wasted your time, no money for you from anyone here.
An assembly not for the people lead you to what you have today... good luck with that...
nor do I want your money, its fake!
Are we having fun yet?
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 27, 2009, 07:21 AM NHFT
Are we having fun yet?
Nope, no fun, I just realized I have much better things to do then to get into an argument with some bottom feeding parasite.
(http://www.dougsworld.com/zippy/yow.gif)
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 07:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: THEGENERAL on March 27, 2009, 07:21 AM NHFT
Are we having fun yet?
Nope, no fun, I just realized I have much better things to do then to get into an argument with some bottom feeding parasite.
So this is the bottom?.... lol... now watch he'll be back for the last word... or can you really keep away?
We really do have some negative nancys in here...
Just one question: What is your ideas on what to do with the mess your leaving for your childrend as well as mine?
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on March 27, 2009, 07:34 AM NHFT
(http://www.dougsworld.com/zippy/yow.gif)
Wait, how did you get my picture?
Can I use that for my profile?
You have to ask R. Crumb.
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on March 27, 2009, 07:43 AM NHFT
You have to ask R. Crumb.
He'll just direct you to Bill Griffith.
R. Crumb, Bill Griffith,
May I use this stunning image of myself for a profile picture?
Please...
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 27, 2009, 06:42 AM NHFT
We have a pool going on here as to when the general disappears.
he isn't finding any takers ... why is he even here?
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 27, 2009, 07:53 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 27, 2009, 06:42 AM NHFT
We have a pool going on here as to when the general disappears.
he isn't finding any takers ... why is even here?
is here for fake money, have some please?
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For those new to web forums: Don't feed the trolls
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We're about to have a problem which is, as they say, the kind of problem you want to have...because only successful web forums have it.
Sooner or later as this site gets more popular it will, like all web forums, start attracting a lot of trolls, i.e. people who are here to destroy the environment of our little web community. Some will make personal attacks or start flame wars, others will resort to sexual references. Still others will simply try to eat up your time with debate. They'd rather see you debating them than taking action for liberty. The important thing is not to give them what they want.
Every troll has a slightly different motivation but most of them want one or more of the folllowing:
1) Attention, hateful or otherwise.
2) To drive away people from the forum by making it a less friendly place
3) To force moderators to delete their posts so they can accuse someone of violating their free speech
The important thing is generally to not give them what they want. Don't respond to them, don't leave the forum because of them and (in the case of moderators) don't delete their posts unless it's really necessary and deletion appears to be supported by the other participants.
Take trolls for what they are: A sign of success and a test of your will. Pass the test by sticking with us and giving the bad guys no aid and comfort.
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So am I a bad guy/ TROLL for looking for an assembly?
Are you passing the test?
All I ask is to unite legally with a chance to take back our county and my words have been mixed and tossed around... Why even respond to me if I have no one taking.
Maybe because you know I am telling the truth and I am just like you but for some reason you don't like how I come off...
Well I'm NOT sorry for being me. I am a man with 4 beautiful children that is looking for people to take action to take back our country and instead I am a troll testing you and those that respond to me
YOU FAIL!
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 06:54 AM NHFT
in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.
That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.
But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.
Quote from: BillKauffman on March 27, 2009, 09:26 AM NHFT
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 06:54 AM NHFT
in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.
That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.
But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.
Exactly
Well Bill Grennon and THE GENERAL are on their way to creating the assembly, good luck guys, let us know how it works out.
Of course I'm a little suspect of it working. I mean don't you think that some other folks would have already achieved success using this method? Or will THE GENERAL be that pivotal character in history that our great-grandchildren will learn about?
You know, the more I looked at it I really don't like THEGENERAL...
All I ask is that people listen to this chance for change, where it is our right, with out being so negative.
It is not only our right but it is our duty.
Quote from: United We Stand on March 27, 2009, 06:24 AM NHFT
Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on March 26, 2009, 11:00 PM NHFT
We assembled more than 25 people on Sunday and the government did not crumble. What happens after the 25 people get together in your plan, THEGENERAL?
We organize with signatures... This holds weight.
Signatures on a piece of paper don't weigh much. What's the next step?
Quote from: BillKauffman on March 27, 2009, 09:26 AM NHFT
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 06:54 AM NHFT
in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.
That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.
But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.
there is no problem unless you plan on using your plan to force me to do things. Have your meetings, conference calls, circle jerks, whatever. . . .none of it is or ever will be anything to do with me. I've seen the racist bigoted conservative right in action. If someone is going to "take back the country" I sure the hell don't want it to be those people.
Quote from: AntonLee on March 27, 2009, 02:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on March 27, 2009, 09:26 AM NHFT
Quote from: ByronB on March 27, 2009, 06:54 AM NHFT
in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.
That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.
But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.
there is no problem unless you plan on using your plan to force me to do things. Have your meetings, conference calls, circle jerks, whatever. . . .none of it is or ever will be anything to do with me. I've seen the racist bigoted conservative right in action. If someone is going to "take back the country" I sure the hell don't want it to be those people.
LMAO, couldn't have said it better myself.
I don't want some committee or some petition organizers making rules to fit the lowest common denominator in our society, I want power to go back to the individual, "the republic" can kiss my ass.
I don't know how much more off you could be, but I'll leave it at that.
Over and over you make it our to be what you want it to be, except free.
You organize here, you make comments here, but when it comes time to matter... you wish nothing but what? I still have not figured out what you all want to see.
I see freekeene bloggers go to face these guys, to what? Ask not to raise taxes... What if they came with real backing... Oh the people are on their side.... That would get things done.
And still I ask... What would you all have?
What has history taught you... Wait it out and die, or do your duty and stand up for your self.
I just don't get what you all want to see... I have heard no one propose anything else but bitch and complain about someone else's problem. When does it become yours?
...
Ok... So now, let the attack begin once again...
for some reason I'm drawn to this forum because you all seem to be some big ass critics that will shoot everything down... you missed the plane headed for the pentagon... I mean missile...
that wasn't a missile it was someone farting something nasty. It exploded.
When you decide to storm the Nation's Capital. . . please tell them you're with the NH Legislature or Blue Hampshire or something and not the FSP or any real freedom groups.
Quote from: United We Stand on March 27, 2009, 06:29 PM NHFT
I don't know how much more off you could be, but I'll leave it at that.
Over and over you make it our to be what you want it to be, except free.
You organize here, you make comments here, but when it comes time to matter... you wish nothing but what? I still have not figured out what you all want to see.
I see freekeene bloggers go to face these guys, to what? Ask not to raise taxes... What if they came with real backing... Oh the people are on their side.... That would get things done.
And still I ask... What would you all have?
What has history taught you... Wait it out and die, or do your duty and stand up for your self.
I just don't get what you all want to see... I have heard no one propose anything else but bitch and complain about someone else's problem. When does it become yours?
...
Ok... So now, let the attack begin once again...
for some reason I'm drawn to this forum because you all seem to be some big ass critics that will shoot everything down... you missed the plane headed for the pentagon... I mean missile...
I still have no idea what you are really proposing, if you can't change people's minds a republic is useless, and a list of signatures isn't going to do crap to change people's minds.
So, if by "shoot(ing) everything down" you mean calling a scam artists website (as well as a petition) utterly useless and a waste of resources then yes I will "shoot everything down".