http://nhindymedia.org/newswire/display/3023/index.php
Isn't that tylenol?
No it's Nutrasweet. I don't think it's a drug. I think it's poison, but don't really want to keep other people from eating it, if they're dead set on it, so to speak.
;D
Quote from: katdillon on December 20, 2005, 02:24 PM NHFT
No it's Nutrasweet.? I don't think it's a drug.? I think it's poison, but don't really want to keep other people from eating it, if they're dead set on it, so to speak.
It's just one of many poisons that "some" of us frequently use ::)
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=34040#
Aspartame Causes Cancer in Rats at Levels Currently Approved for Humans
Category: Public Health News
Article Date: 23 Nov 2005
A statistically significant increase in the incidence of malignant tumors, lymphomas and leukemias in rats exposed to varying doses of aspartame appears to link the artificial sweetener to a high carcinogenicity rate, according to a study accepted for publication today by the peer-reviewed journal Environmental Health Perspectives (EHP). The authors of the study, the first to demonstrate multipotential carcinogenic effects of aspartame administered to rats in feed, called for an "urgent reevaluation" of the current guidelines for the use and consumption of this compound.
"Our study has shown that aspartame is a multipotential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are also evident at a daily dose of 20 milligrams per kilogram of body weight (mg/kg), notably less than the current acceptable daily intake for humans," the authors write. Currently, the acceptable daily intake for humans is set at 50 mg/kg in the United States and 40 mg/kg in Europe.
Aspartame is the second most widely used artificial sweetener in the world. It is found in more than 6,000 products including carbonated and powdered soft drinks, hot chocolate, chewing gum, candy, desserts, yogurt, and tabletop sweeteners, as well as some pharmaceutical products like vitamins and sugar-free cough drops. More than 200 million people worldwide consume it. The sweetener has been used for more than 30 years, having first been approved by the FDA in 1974. Studies of the carcinogenicity of aspartame performed by its producers have been negative.
Researchers administered aspartame to Sprague-Dawley rats by adding it to a standard diet. They began studying the rats at 8 weeks of age and continued until the spontaneous death of each rat. Treatment groups received feed that contained concentrations of aspartame at dosages simulating human daily intakes of 5,000, 2,500, 500, 100, 20, and 4 mg/kg body weight. Groups consisted of 100 males and 100 females at each of the three highest dosages and 150 males and 150 females at all lower dosages and controls.
The experiment ended after the death of the last animal at 159 weeks. At spontaneous death, each animal underwent examination for microscopic changes in all organs and tissues, a process different from the aspartame studies conducted 30 years ago and one that was designed to allow aspartame to fully express any carcinogenic potential.
The treated animals showed extensive evidence of malignant cancers including lymphomas, leukemias, and tumors at multiple organ sites in both males and females. The authors speculate the increase in lymphomas and leukemias may be related to one of the metabolites in aspartame, namely methanol, which is metabolized in both rats and humans to formaldehyde. Both methanol and formaldehyde have shown links to lymphomas and leukemias in other long-term experiments by the same authors.
The current study included more animals over a longer period than earlier studies. "In our opinion, previous studies did not comply with today's basic requirements for testing the carcinogenic potential of a physical or chemical agent, in particular concerning the number of rodents for each experimental group (40-86, compared to 100-150 in the current study) and the termination of previous studies at only 110 weeks of age of the animals," the study authors wrote.
The authors of the study were Morando Soffritti, Fiorella Belpoggi, Davide Degli Esposti, Luca Lambertini, Eva Tibaldi, and Anna Rigano of the Cesare Maltoni Cancer Research Center, European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences, Bologna, Italy. Funding for the research was provided by the European Ramazzini Foundation of Oncology and Environmental Sciences, Bologna, Italy. The article is available free of charge, click here http://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/docs/2005/8711/abstract.html.
EHP is published by the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. EHP EHP is an Open Access journal. More information is available online at http://www.ehponline.org.
Out of the ~32 million chemicals known, the number of poisions is......... (drum roll please)......... 32 million.
Everything is a poison, even water, it just matters how much you take..... :)
JM
/shrug Water doesn't metabolize into fermaldehyde.
More Aspartame dialogue.
http://tafkac.org/ulz/nutrasweet.html
Quote from: katdillon on December 21, 2005, 04:12 AM NHFT
/shrug? Water doesn't metabolize into fermaldehyde.
True, there are degress, but even too much water can through off your electrolytes so much that you keel! Die! Croak! Pass on! Become a cheap source of protein for invertebrates...... :) You'll be pining for the fjords, mate! :D
JM
Right aspartame, my wife and mother-in-law suffer horrible headaches if they injest the stuff.
Splenda (sucralose) is good stuff. Excellent sweetener, and no one's managed to find anything wrong with it.
Kevin
Quote from: KBCraig on December 21, 2005, 12:39 PM NHFT
Splenda (sucralose) is good stuff. Excellent sweetener, and no one's managed to find anything wrong with it.
I like sugar.
Quote from: Eli on December 21, 2005, 12:13 PM NHFT
Right aspartame, my wife and mother-in-law suffer horrible headaches if they injest the stuff.
Aspartame has same components as Monosodium Glutamate (MSG) that gives some people headaches. If you are "allergic" to MSG, you might want to stay away from Nutrasweet/aspartame, and vice-versa.
Aspartame gives headaches
Sugar turns to fat
Sweet-n-low (whatever) causes cancer
Sucralose is newest, but so far no harmful effects
When I switched from aspartame to sucralose, I noticed significant health benefits. I now strongly avoid aspartame.
Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide!
The Invisible Killer
Dihydrogen monoxide is colorless, odorless, tasteless, and kills uncounted thousands of people every year. Most of these deaths are caused by accidental inhalation of DHMO, but the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide do not end there. Prolonged exposure to its solid form causes severe tissue damage. Symptoms of DHMO ingestion can include excessive sweating and urination, and possibly a bloated feeling, nausea, vomiting and body electrolyte imbalance. For those who have become dependent, DHMO withdrawal means certain death.
Dihydrogen monoxide:
is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
contributes to the "greenhouse effect."
may cause severe burns.
contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.
Contamination Is Reaching Epidemic Proportions!
Quantities of dihydrogen monoxide have been found in almost every stream, lake, and reservoir in America today. But the pollution is global, and the contaminant has even been found in Antarctic ice. DHMO has caused millions of dollars of property damage in the midwest, and recently California.
Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:
as an industrial solvent and coolant.
in nuclear power plants.
in the production of styrofoam.
as a fire retardant.
in many forms of cruel animal research.
in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.
Companies dump waste DHMO into rivers and the ocean, and nothing can be done to stop them because this practice is still legal.The impact on wildlife is extreme,and we cannot afford to ignore it any longer!
The Horror Must Be Stopped!
The American government has refused to ban the production, distribution, or use of this damaging chemical due to its "importance to the economic health of this nation." In fact, the navy and other military organizations are conducting experiments with DHMO, and designing multi-billiondollar devices to control and utilize it during warfare situations. Hundreds of military research facilities receive tons of it through a highly sophisticated underground distribution network. Many store large quantities for later use.
It's Not Too Late!
Act NOW to prevent further contamination .Find out more about this dangerous chemical. What you don't know can hurt you and others throughout the world.Send email to no_dhmo@circus.com, or a SASE to:
Coalition to Ban DHMO211 Pearl
St.Santa Cruz CA, 95060
Not to mention that the involuntary misuse of Dihydrogen Monoxide has been reported in the interrigations of prisioners at secret US-run detention centers around the world!
JM
There seems to be quite a contraversy out there about whether or not this substance is dangerous.
A friend of mine rubbed into his lower back to reduce pain due to Siatica. He smelled like garlic after a while.
Quote from: KBCraig on December 21, 2005, 12:39 PM NHFT
Splenda (sucralose) is good stuff. Excellent sweetener, and no one's managed to find anything wrong with it.
Kevin
Some of us hippies use Stevia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia
QuoteIn 1991, at the request of an anonymous complainant, the United States Food and Drug Administration labelled stevia as an "unsafe food additive", and restricted its import. The FDA's stated reason was "toxicological information on stevia is inadequate to demonstrate its safety" [4]. This ruling was controversial, as stevia proponents pointed out this designation goes against the FDA's guidelines, under which any natural substance used prior to 1958 with no reported adverse effects should be recognized as safe. After stevia was banned, several of members of the FDA board left their jobs. They were all hired at the Nutrasweet Company (a Monsanto subsidiary) in higher pay jobs, according to National (government) records. This has been criticized as a legal bribe by Nutrasweet to the FDA, to ban Stevia (then Nutrasweet's main competitor) in the U.S.
In 1995, the FDA revised its stance to permit stevia to be used as a dietary supplement, although not as a food additive. Currently, it is legal to import, grow, sell and consume Stevia products in the United States if it is contained within or labelled for use as a dietary supplement. You can buy Stevia products at such U.S. oulets as Whole Foods, General Nutrition Center, and other stores that carry natural foods.
You may also buy it where I buy it, at Kroger.
I seriously doubt a majority of people would even use aspartame if the FDA hadn't fast-tracked it.
If the FDA didn't exist, their would have been numerous companies researching it's effects much more quickly and I seriously doubt that it would be the fake sugar of choice for soft drinks and things now.
So now it sounds like NH is thinking about using more government intervention to "FIX" the market disalocation the Feds caused in the 1st place.
It's just part of the cycle of government intervention begets problems begets intervention . . . .
Hopefully libertarians can stop the cycle.
Quote from: tracysaboe on December 23, 2005, 07:49 PM NHFT
I seriously doubt a majority of people would even use aspartame if the FDA hadn't fast-tracked it.
Of course they would. "It must be safe, or the government wouldn't let them sell it!" is the prevailing mindset.
QuoteIf the FDA didn't exist,
That's a whole different matter, and I agree with the rest of your post. But people nowadays do assume the government is going to protect them from buying anything that's harmful. That's why we have kids ODing on Nyquil. "It can't be that bad, they sell it over the counter!"
Kevin
Quote from: TN-FSP on December 21, 2005, 10:55 PM NHFT
Some of us hippies use Stevia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia
Thanks! I'm trying this now. It's not sugar but is much better than any of the artificial sweeteners and Splenda.
One of our clients at the cll center where I work sells Stevia. They let us buy it at cost.
Tracy
Quote from: tracysaboe on December 23, 2005, 11:32 PM NHFT
One of our clients at the cll center where I work sells Stevia. They let us buy it at cost.
Tracy
Cool deal. I wonder if that is cheaper than the largest food store in the nation? Do they have Kroger in SD?
Personally, I've used STEVIA for almost 20 years. It has many healthful qualities and it is not synthetically created by man. Xylitol is also good, follow this link for more info: http://www.xylitol.org
Just because Splenda hasn't yet been widely recognized as unhealthy, it doesn't mean that it's good for you. As a general rule, I stay way from any food product that has been created by or altered by man. Mother Nature is usually far more reliable.
It is really ironic that Aspertame is used in diet sodas when it has been found to CAUSE obesity (MSG also does). Check out the book "Excito Toxins: The Taste That Kills".
The bottom line for me is that one of the few real duties of the Federal Government is to protect the citizenry from fraud. The idea that many of these synthetic poisons are safe is FRAUD. Special interests have whored our government. When citizens are allowed to be fraudulently poisoned, it creates the percieved need for more socialized medicine and destroys the free market.
I remember reading a study years ago that said that aspartame and MSG slow down the metabolism and have been found to kill brain cells. Xylitol is a good sweetener that has been found to reduce tooth decay, just don't overdo it because it has the same effect on your digestive system as prunes if consumed in large quantities. I have found stevia to be good, except that if you add too much to your food or drink, it tastes worse, so it is only good tasting in moderation. I like splenda, and have been using it instead of sugar in my coffee and I found that splenda sweetened soft drinks usually taste better (to me) than other soft drinks.
I'll just stick to good old fashioned sugar here. The Aspartame sweetners (and some other artificial sweetners) tend to cause me to stop breathing due to some reaction from them with the asthma I have. Though mine just might be due to the fact its not 'normal' asthma too, by that I mean it didn't occur naturally but was brought about from chemical exposure in the military.
I'll probably be sticking with sugar as well :)
Just gotta remember to brush my teeth twice a day... I also like this trident gum with Xylitol, that's actually supposed to be GOOD for your teeth...
http://www.xylitol.org/ ;D
QuoteI'll just stick to good old fashioned sugar here
QuoteI'll probably be sticking with sugar as well
Good luck, considering all sodas and most sweets in the US are made with Corn syrup, due to our high sugar tariffs :)
This news regarding aspartame sucks for me though. I am a diet Dr Pepper addict and drink about a can a day. Guess I'll sloooowlly ween myself off it, and back onto the regular Dr Pepper :(
*cries*
Jolt! All the sugar and twice the caffeine!
do they still make that stuff?
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/june2006/010606Aspartame.htm
That ^ movie is very good...been watching it in pieces.
I remember when they first started marketing this stuff saying "it's made from bananas".
Yeah..bananas they throw in a centrifuge and spin around REALLY REALLY HARD.