I am looking for a plumber who can figure out my waer pump problems if anyone is interested i can be reached at jjoserox@aol.com or message me at nhfree
What's the problem?
It's the waer pump.
pump seems to work fine it holds pressure turns off and off at the proper pressures but will not build up the pressure without assistance . when the pipes were done dirt got into the system and i am wondering if that would change the pressure switches I am tired of messing with it and would prefer to pay someone even if i need a new pump put in just thought i would prefer to pay a free stater as anyone and good plumbers are hard to come by. anyone interested let me know.
Is the pump an in-well pump, or a suction pump located in your house?
I'm switching from a suction pump to an in-well pump, so I'll have a whole suction pump, tank, and pressure switch setup available. So, if you have a suction pump, I could just sell you an entire replacement setup.
it is a in home pump and holding tank it came from a house down the street the suction pump located in the house. funny thing is the pump is exactly what you are offering according to the home owner it was used minimally . I did not purchase it it was purchased by the last tennants here to replace the old pump . cause the other pugrevating me.mp would not shut off. It is really ag
Quote from: firecracker joe on October 18, 2013, 07:53 PM NHFT
it is a in home pump and holding tank it came from a house down the street the suction pump located in the house. funny thing is the pump is exactly what you are offering according to the home owner it was used minimally . I did not purchase it it was purchased by the last tennants here to replace the old pump . cause the other pugrevating me.mp would not shut off. It is really ag
There should be a device down in the well that uses pumped water to force more water out of the well. It's a venturi jet, I forget the proper name for it. The orifice for that jet breaks down over time.
Do you have two pipes that exit from the pump and go to the well?
It would probably look like there are three pipes coming off the pump; one that goes to the pressure tank and two that go to the well. Or a pipe that comes off the pressure tank that goes to the well.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/home/improvement/electrical-plumbing/1275136
It's a 'well jet kit'.
"Venturi" is the proper name, but they're pretty rare, these days. Most folks either have a suction pump, or a submersible pump - submersible pumps have come down in cost to the point that most folks who have a deep well with a venturi pump that fails, will just replace it with a submersible, so the venturis are getting rare.
1 pipe from well to pump then one pipe from tank to water lines . pump is on top of holking tank. the well is a dug well and has only run dry once since the 60's
Quote from: firecracker joe on October 18, 2013, 03:09 PM NHFT
pump seems to work fine it holds pressure turns off and off at the proper pressures but will not build up the pressure without assistance . when the pipes were done dirt got into the system and i am wondering if that would change the pressure switches I am tired of messing with it and would prefer to pay someone even if i need a new pump put in just thought i would prefer to pay a free stater as anyone and good plumbers are hard to come by. anyone interested let me know.
After rereading the symptoms; the pressure tank is not hold air inside in the tank. Maybe a new pressure tank is the answer.
Or, check the fittings on the pressure tank. If it has a pressure gauge, make sure it's not leaking.
The air side tends to leak more than the water side.
i wish it were that simple. pressure holds , all fittings are tight
Poltergeist?
When you say that it won't build up pressure "without assistance," what sort of assistance do you mean?
The pressure builds to 20 psi then i add pressure from my compressor to 40 psi then it shuts off if i dont pump will run forever
Do you mean that you are adding pressure to the well tank, through the air fitting (like a tire valve)?
That should only have to be done once. The tank pressure should be two pounds lower than the turn-on water pressure (so, if the switch turns on at 30 and off at 50, the tank should be at 28psi). To check the pressure, you need to make sure that the water pressure is at zero, or you'll get a false reading.
If you ever have to add air then Jim's definitely right and the tank is not holding air - that tank should be pressurized once, and you should never have to touch it after that. If you do, then the thing is leaking air. Since it sounds like you're not also leaking water, the diaphragm could be intact, and the air valve might be leaking. The cores on those valves can be replaced with a simple tool. Assuming you have an air leak, that might be a good place to start, since it's less than $10...
Would'nt i hear air leaking? This is why i just want to hire a plumber who is familiar with plumbing.and pump issues.i do appreciate peoples help though
Quote from: firecracker joe on October 22, 2013, 06:08 PM NHFTWould'nt i hear air leaking?
Nah, not if it's leaking slowly.
Mix up some soapy water and put it on the valve. I bet you'll see bubbles. Or just replace the valve core, anyway. Like I said, they're only a few bucks - lots cheaper than hiring a plumber. If that doesn't fix it, then you truly have something odd, and you can know that you're not wasting money if you have to hire someone.
I will try that thankyou
A pressure tank requires both pressure, and volume.
If the diaphragm is intact, but there's a leak on the air side, the pressure could read in the acceptable range, but the tank is ineffective because air volume is just too low.
problem solved, the pump was originally in the garage about 15 ft. from the well when i moved it into the house it was now 60 ft. from the well the pump is a 1/2 horse powe.r today i went and bought a 1 HP jet pump plumbed it in and all is well , the water is flowing and the firecracker couldnt be happier. thankyou for all your inputs and im sure if i had explained moving the pump one of you wise porcs would have diagnosed the problem. so now its off to the shower. thanx again to all you knowledgeable porcs.
Thanks Joe, that's good to know. :)
I would have probably figured that out for ya Joe, but it would have required you to have held your computer much closer to the problem. :D
Glad you worked it out. :) Just proves pumps push better than they suck.
thats exactly what it comes down to, running water makes life so much more bareable
good to hear