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New Hampshire Underground => General Discussion => Topic started by: Kat Kanning on February 05, 2005, 07:20 AM NHFT

Title: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 05, 2005, 07:20 AM NHFT
http://www.861.info/

I kinda knew this stuff, but this really pissed me off.
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2005, 08:53 AM NHFT
....another angry former 'taxpayer' 8)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 09:51 AM NHFT
 ???  I watched it.
Disturbing, sobering and confusing...
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2005, 10:23 AM NHFT
So you have never been exposed to this "truth in taxation" movement before?
You can also checkout out our "taxes" page on the wiki.
There are a lot of good websites that cover similar information, but this presentation is good. About an hour long so be prepared. :)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2005, 10:26 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 09:51 AM NHFT
???? I watched it.
Disturbing, sobering and confusing...
His "Theft by Deception" video is even better for explaining the technicalities of the law. I was one of those accountant guys who didn't know the real story until just a few years ago. Now I haven't paid Federal Income Taxes since '98.
BTW Larkin Rose is moving to NH this next year...he just signed up this week. :)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 10:27 AM NHFT
I have been aware of information of this sort for 25 years. ?It's still disturbing, sobering and confusing! ?Sometime you and I can discuss this privately.

Brian
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2005, 10:32 AM NHFT
I am on his email list and this is what he wrote in yesterdays email:


...On a slightly related topic, this particular "frog" at least wants a cooler pot to be in.  If all goes well, I will soon be moving to New Hampshire, which still has the radical motto of "Live free or die."  (I'm pretty sure I know which of those the IRS would like me to do.) Instead of giving a sermon about it here, I'll just give a link for any who are ready to DO something to try to get back some of the freedom that has been leeched from us. http://www.freestateproject.org

Sincerely,
Larken Rose
larken@taxableincome.net
http://www.861.info
http://www.theft-by-deception.com

We have already gotten a couple of signups from his email for the FSP. :)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 05, 2005, 10:32 AM NHFT
Here' Russell's tax page:

http://www.soulawakenings.com/underground/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=Taxes

Same here, Brian.  I found it very disturbing.  Just add up all the money you've ever paid in income tax and think that that amount was stolen from you by fraud.
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2005, 10:32 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 10:27 AM NHFT
I have been aware of information of this sort for 25 years. ?It's still disturbing, sobering and confusing! ?Sometime you and I can discuss this privately.

Brian
That is what we do at porcupine parties in NH.  8)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 10:43 AM NHFT
Don't torture me Russell   :'(

I am busy making the changes in my life that will facilitate my move to NH.  NHUnderground is a breath of fresh air to this FSP member and has, if I can follow this to its logical end, filled the sails of my moving van again!!  :o ;D

Brian
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FTL_Ian on February 05, 2005, 11:58 AM NHFT
The section about the raids to confiscate Mr. Rose's videos was outrageous!

Bastards.
Ian
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2005, 02:42 PM NHFT
Yea he constantly at war with those people. They try to say he is a tax scam artist for selling the videos. That is why he gives away the mini-cds now and has that website set up. :)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 05, 2005, 02:50 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 10:43 AM NHFT
Don't torture me Russell   :'(

Ooooh, I can just see Brian shackled to a wall, forced to listen to stories of how much fun it is in NH!
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 05:11 PM NHFT
Quote from: katdillon on February 05, 2005, 02:50 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 10:43 AM NHFT
Don't torture me Russell? ?:'(

Ooooh, I can just see Brian shackled to a wall, forced to listen to stories of how much fun it is in NH!

URGENT MESSAGE:

I AM SHACKLED TO A WALL HERE IN NY AND HILARY IS COMING ---- HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CALL THE NH UNDERGROUND.......
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 05, 2005, 05:41 PM NHFT
Don't panic.  I'm on the phone to the underground phone tree now.  We'll save you, Brian!!
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FSPinNY on February 05, 2005, 05:49 PM NHFT
PLEASE BRING IN THE ELITE SMALL GOVERNMENT TEAM, IT'S, IT'S IT'S AHHHHHH, THE HILDABEAST  :o ;D ??? ::)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Pat K on February 05, 2005, 08:06 PM NHFT
This would be funny if not for the fact that Hillery  and Shumor really are our state senators.
I  wish I could leave now, damn.
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 06, 2005, 07:08 AM NHFT
I got out of a state with the two cows for senators CA ;D
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 06, 2005, 07:56 AM NHFT
(http://www.soulawakenings.com/happycows.jpg)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: danhynes on February 07, 2005, 02:42 PM NHFT
Thanks for the link, I was talking to Scott about taxes on saturday at the breakfast. I like the idea of this topic being discussed in open, but I hope nothing bad happens to the people who admit to following this idea, perhaps its better to save those admisissions for private discussion. On the other hand I would be greatly interested in the results of people who have followed this method, or another such as taxes are voluntary and not filed, or filed zeroes. For instance, does anyone know of any criminal prosecutions, or have any of you had to go to court yet to defend yourself, and how many people does the gov. actually contact. Feel free to send me a private message about it, thanks, Dan
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 07, 2005, 04:46 PM NHFT
I don't file 1040 forms anymore. They know all about me and don't send me any messages. I don't know if that is a normal experience. The state of California sent me a phony tax bill once, but I just threw it away. I haven't heard anything since. :)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FTL_Ian on February 08, 2005, 11:29 AM NHFT
Russelll, do you own a house or anything they could come after?

Regards,
Ian
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FSPinNY on February 08, 2005, 11:42 AM NHFT
My suggestion; this is the kind of thing that should be disussed in private... ;)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 08, 2005, 12:19 PM NHFT
I am not forcing people to discuss this in public. I like to mention these things openly, because it helps inform others. :)
BTW Ian ... I do purposely keep things out of my name...In fact Russell Kanning isn't my real name. ;)
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 08, 2005, 01:06 PM NHFT
News to me!!
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: FTL_Ian on February 08, 2005, 01:07 PM NHFT
 :o
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 08, 2005, 01:10 PM NHFT
You can't give your wife your real name....you can't trust anyone :-X
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on February 08, 2005, 01:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: russellkanning on February 08, 2005, 12:19 PM NHFT
I am not forcing people to discuss this in public. I like to mention these things openly, because it helps inform others. :)
BTW Ian ... I do purposely keep things out of my name...In fact Russell Kanning isn't my real name. ;)

I, always, suspected this, although, I also wondered who in Hell would pick that for an alias? ;D
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Russell Kanning on February 08, 2005, 01:23 PM NHFT
It is fairly clever...no?
Title: Re: Watch this video!
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 08, 2005, 01:24 PM NHFT
He likes storing food in jars