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New Hampshire Underground => Forum Issues => Topic started by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 10:15 AM NHFT

Poll
Question: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Option 1: Yes that would be useful. votes: 7
Option 2: No, it would dilute the existing forums. votes: 3
Option 3: I don't care. votes: 4
Title: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 10:15 AM NHFT
I had an idea for some new subforums here.  Considering that Yahoo groups are pretty lame, I was thinking we should have area based forums like:

Monadnock Discussion
Merrimack Vally Discussion
Seacoast Discussion

etc...

Would you like to see these created?  If so, what are the other ones I should make?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Kat Kanning on August 06, 2006, 10:59 AM NHFT
http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3623.0
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: aries on August 06, 2006, 11:05 AM NHFT
I think they would not get enough traffic.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Lex on August 06, 2006, 11:09 AM NHFT
Quote from: aries on August 06, 2006, 11:05 AM NHFT
I think they would not get enough traffic.

I concur. Lets wait until cloning gets far enough so that we can clone Kat and Russell to the other areas of NH. THEN I think it would make sense to have separate forums.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 11:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: aries on August 06, 2006, 11:05 AM NHFT
I think they would not get enough traffic.

If I was not clear, these would be subforums, like the Child Boards you see on this forum.  They would be part of this forum.  This forum already has a lot of traffic, and that amount is only going to increase.  If the idea is valuable, is it not a good idea to institute them before the growth occurs?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Lex on August 06, 2006, 11:14 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 11:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: aries on August 06, 2006, 11:05 AM NHFT
I think they would not get enough traffic.

If I was not clear, these would be subforums, like the Child Boards you see on this forum.  They would be part of this forum.  This forum already has a lot of traffic, and that amount is only going to increase.  If the idea is valuable, is it not a good idea to institute them before the growth occurs?

But the traffic that we get hasn't been very specific to any area except Keene. Very little posts about the Seacoast for example... Most of the posts on nh underground are either not location based, general to the state or specific to Keene.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Kat Kanning on August 06, 2006, 11:29 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on August 06, 2006, 11:09 AM NHFT
Quote from: aries on August 06, 2006, 11:05 AM NHFT
I think they would not get enough traffic.

I concur. Lets wait until cloning gets far enough so that we can clone Kat and Russell to the other areas of NH. THEN I think it would make sense to have separate forums.

Kira's 15.  I don't know where we'll get another Russell...I think they broke the mold.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 11:39 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on August 06, 2006, 11:14 AM NHFT
But the traffic that we get hasn't been very specific to any area except Keene. Very little posts about the Seacoast for example... Most of the posts on nh underground are either not location based, general to the state or specific to Keene.

Maybe that's because when people come here they only see a Keene subforum, thereby inducing them to think that Keene is the main focus.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Pat McCotter on August 06, 2006, 11:47 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 11:39 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on August 06, 2006, 11:14 AM NHFT
But the traffic that we get hasn't been very specific to any area except Keene. Very little posts about the Seacoast for example... Most of the posts on nh underground are either not location based, general to the state or specific to Keene.

Maybe that's because when people come here they only see a Keene subforum, thereby inducing them to think that Keene is the main focus.

Quote from: katdillon on August 06, 2006, 10:59 AM NHFT
http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3623.0

"We have a forum for Keene news.  If anyone else wants a specific forum for their area, just let me know."
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Lex on August 06, 2006, 12:01 PM NHFT
Alright, I would like a Grafton forum then  ;D
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 12:02 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on August 06, 2006, 12:01 PM NHFT
Alright, I would like a Grafton forum then  ;D

I was thinking that we could start with regional subforums.  Once those became popular enough, town subforums within the regionals would be an option.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Lex on August 06, 2006, 12:07 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 12:02 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on August 06, 2006, 12:01 PM NHFT
Alright, I would like a Grafton forum then  ;D

I was thinking that we could start with regional subforums.  Once those became popular enough, town subforums within the regionals would be an option.

Thoughts?

Well, Grafton has a lot of activity and things to talk about. And from a more selfish stand point having a Grafton subforum might help attract more people here. Grafton is the home to a lot of Free Staters and if you're counting it as percentage of population than I think Grafton has more free staters than any other town in NH. I think it deserves its own forum :-)
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 12:14 PM NHFT
Okay, I'd like to think of a better name than "Keene News".  I've actually witheld posting in the Keene News subforum at times because what I wanted to post about wasn't necessarily "news".

How about we rename the "NH News" section to "NH News and Regional Discussion"  (Admittedly weak title, looking for better ideas.)

Then we could have regional subforums within

Monadnock Discussion
Merrimack Vally Discussion
Seacoast Discussion
...

Then within those regional forums we could have town specific subforums:
Keene, Grafton, and add them upon request.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Lex on August 06, 2006, 01:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 12:14 PM NHFT
How about we rename the "NH News" section to "NH News and Regional Discussion"  (Admittedly weak title, looking for better ideas.)
Sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 01:13 PM NHFT
There are seven regions to NH:
Dartmouth Sunapee
Great North Woods
Lakes
Merrimack Valley
Monadnock
Seacoast
White Mountains

Should each have its own subforum, or should we combine the low population areas of Great North Woods and White Mountains into one, like "Northern NH"?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: 9thmoon on August 06, 2006, 05:37 PM NHFT
Which region is Manchester/Derry in?

I would say fewer categories/larger regions are better to start.  Opening new child boards with too much detail runs the risk of having people get bored because there's almost no traffic.  This forum already has a lot of sections to read through. 
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: toowm on August 06, 2006, 07:01 PM NHFT
Quote from: 9thmoon on August 06, 2006, 05:37 PM NHFT
Which region is Manchester/Derry in?

Merrimack Valley
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Friday on August 06, 2006, 07:47 PM NHFT
Biting back multiple irritated responses re: "well, nothing happens outside of Keene"....  ::)

Ian, I think it's a good idea.  Thank you for suggesting it (again, since Kat had previously offered).  Ian and Kat, I hereby request a Merrimack Valley region subsection.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: kaarat on August 06, 2006, 09:51 PM NHFT
I like this idea.  I think people would respond well to knowing who is located in and what is going on in regions close to their homes.  Especially new people, like me.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 10:52 PM NHFT
Okay, it is done (http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?board=3.0).  If you'd like a child board for your area, let me know.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: cathleeninnh on August 07, 2006, 08:32 AM NHFT
Damn, this is getting to be a nuisance. I can hardly keep up with it now. Now, I will miss more as I can't read everything anymore.

Cathleen

I will assume that any posters there do not expect any outside participation.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Friday on August 07, 2006, 01:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: cathleeninnh on August 07, 2006, 08:32 AM NHFT
Damn, this is getting to be a nuisance. I can hardly keep up with it now. Now, I will miss more as I can't read everything anymore.

Cathleen

I will assume that any posters there do not expect any outside participation.

That's a little weird, Cathleen.  If you don't have time to read subboards, don't.  But how does that correlate with assuming that people who do post there don't want any outside participation?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: cathleeninnh on August 07, 2006, 03:24 PM NHFT
Makes sense to me. If I wanted all to participate in a discussion, I sure wouldn't put it in a local forum.

I don't mind specific forums (that can't be correct).  It is the ideal way to get the focus necessary for a productive debate or plan. By design it DISCOURAGES off topic contribution.

To get specific. If a lakes region board is where lakes region people plan lakes region activism and region specific issues, I will drift away as I don't live in the lakes region. I may have interest but it would certainly come after issues more related to me are considered. We all must eat. (well, most of us) Only natural. If and when lakes region people may desire my help or input, then announcing something there is unlikely to get my attention in a timely manner.


Cathleen
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 07, 2006, 03:35 PM NHFT
Which is why things relating NH in general can be posted in the original NH News forum, or whereever else.   8)
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: cathleeninnh on August 07, 2006, 04:19 PM NHFT
Exactly where you would expect it to get the widest audience.

Cathleen
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 07, 2006, 04:31 PM NHFT
For those looking to coordinate and communicate locally, the subforums will be perfect, and reduce clutter in the general area.  Plus, as NHFree.com continues to grow, we'll be ready for the increased usage.   ;D
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: PowerPenguin on August 08, 2006, 02:09 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 10:15 AM NHFT
I had an idea for some new subforums here.  Considering that Yahoo groups are pretty lame, I was thinking we should have area based forums like:

Finally!! Someone agrees with me on this topic for once! Go Ian! I don't get why everyone is obsessed with it; I find it absolutely horrible. This is why I'm the only person (that I know of at least based on the FSP site) that uses Mailman for my Local Group mailings rather than crappy Yahoo Groups. When I began, some people were testy about this, but fortunately they got over it, and none of the 150+ subscribers seem to care.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: KBCraig on August 08, 2006, 04:17 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 07, 2006, 03:35 PM NHFT
Which is why things relating NH in general can be posted in the original NH News forum, or whereever else.   8)

If you're referring to the former "NH News" forum, "NH News of Interest to Liberty Lovers", it's no longer there.

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?board=3.0

It's nothing but child boards now. There is no longer an overall category for NH news. It seems the administrative changes got carried away.

Kevin
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 08, 2006, 09:00 AM NHFT
It's still there.  If it's too confusing to scroll down to see the messages, I can split them off.  Should I?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 08, 2006, 09:07 AM NHFT
Okay, I did.  The NH News forum has been restored to its former glory.  The Regional Discussion forums are below the old forums in their own dedicated area.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Dreepa on August 08, 2006, 07:02 PM NHFT
Reading is easy.. I never look in the forum boards...
I just click that 'show unread posts since last visit'  Easy (sometimes it is easy... but not if you have been away for a week)
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: KBCraig on August 08, 2006, 08:50 PM NHFT
Quote from: Dreepa on August 08, 2006, 07:02 PM NHFT
Reading is easy.. I never look in the forum boards...
I just click that 'show unread posts since last visit'  Easy (sometimes it is easy... but not if you have been away for a week)

'Zackly.

And using a tabbed browser makes it a piece of cake.

Kevin
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 09, 2006, 09:23 AM NHFT
Quote from: freedominnh on August 09, 2006, 08:01 AM NHFT
Be aware that "Merrimack Valley" is a well known MA region North of the Merrimack River.   You are describing Hillsborough County, Merrimack County and a small part of Rockingham County.  I think this region needs to be better defined.  Right now it feels like folk from the Commonwealth below us might get confused. 

This is what it is called though.  Why would someone from MA think we were referring to MA on an NH-centric forum?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 09, 2006, 10:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: freedominnh on August 09, 2006, 10:40 AM NHFT
Someone from NH might. And it isn't what it is called. I just have never brought it up before.


According to:
http://www.nhlinks.com/cr.htm

It is called Merrimack Valley.  What is the correct name?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: toowm on August 09, 2006, 11:09 AM NHFT
Quote from: freedominnh on August 09, 2006, 08:01 AM NHFT
Right now it feels like folk from the Commonwealth below us might get confused. 

If Mass*oles think they are in the Free State, they really are confused! ;) ;D
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 09, 2006, 01:08 PM NHFT
Sorry, but Southern NH includes several regions.  The Merrimack Valley porcupines haven't had any problems with people being confused, to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 09, 2006, 03:02 PM NHFT
Again, there are seven distinct regions of NH, according to the above link.  I have combined two regions into "Northern NH" simply because of low population.

Southern NH would include at least three separate well populated regions, so best that we leave them separate.

Also, a quick google search of "merrimack valley" nh reveals several sources.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 09, 2006, 03:04 PM NHFT
Plus, if Merrimack Valley is confusing to them, they must be really confused by the two states having towns by the same name.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: toowm on August 09, 2006, 05:09 PM NHFT
There are a lot of towns in NH & Mass with the same name, like Concord and Salem. I started to compare them, and stopped after the Cs:

Amherst
Andover
Ashland
Auburn
Bedford
Berlin
Bridgewater
Brookfield
Brookline
Charlestown
Chartham
Chester
Chesterfield
Concord
Conway
...
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Kat Kanning on August 09, 2006, 05:26 PM NHFT
No other Keene's nearby, but there is one in Texas!
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: KBCraig on August 09, 2006, 08:25 PM NHFT
I'm not too keen on Texas, myself.

Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Dreepa on August 10, 2006, 10:08 AM NHFT
I don't think of myself in 'Merrimack Valley'.  I live just outside of Concord.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Pat McCotter on August 15, 2006, 04:35 PM NHFT
Maryland is the Free State, y'know.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on August 15, 2006, 04:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: Dreepa on August 10, 2006, 10:08 AM NHFT
I don't think of myself in 'Merrimack Valley'.  I live just outside of Concord.

Are you between that big river and the nearest mountain?
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: Kat Kanning on August 15, 2006, 04:56 PM NHFT
Maybe there could be a debate at the merrimack valley porcs meeting about what exactly constitutes the merrmack valley....you could have the pro-concord side and anti-concord.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: tracysaboe on August 25, 2006, 03:58 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on August 06, 2006, 11:14 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on August 06, 2006, 11:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: aries on August 06, 2006, 11:05 AM NHFT
I think they would not get enough traffic.

If I was not clear, these would be subforums, like the Child Boards you see on this forum.  They would be part of this forum.  This forum already has a lot of traffic, and that amount is only going to increase.  If the idea is valuable, is it not a good idea to institute them before the growth occurs?

But the traffic that we get hasn't been very specific to any area except Keene. Very little posts about the Seacoast for example... Most of the posts on nh underground are either not location based, general to the state or specific to Keene.

If you put a fish in a small fishbowl it won't grow. Make the fish-bowl bigger and the fish will grow.

Tracy-son.
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: PinoX7 on October 11, 2006, 12:41 AM NHFT
How about the

Jaffrey Disscussion
Title: Re: Should we add new area-based discussion forums?
Post by: FTL_Ian on October 11, 2006, 10:16 PM NHFT
I'd be happy to do this for you, but I am no longer the Administrator.  Kat?