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Title: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 17, 2006, 08:42 AM NHFT
Brian Sullivan (NY-FSP) requested that we drag his butt to NH if he had not moved here under his own power by October. He decided earlier this year he was firing NY  :director: as his public servant. He has his house in Ithaca, NY on the market already.  :fingerscrossed:  But we don't want to take any chances. If he is not a resident of NH in attendence at the Pumpkin Festival in Keene (October 21)  :occasion14: , he is subject to coercive force. :whp2:

We are here to set the captives free :jailbird: so we will come for Brian before the end of October 2006. :icon_motor:

Brian will be renting somewhere in NH when he moves, so he can check out his options. I am sure he will survey the landscape and choose Keene (partly because it is close to his hometown), so I will just have a seat waiting here for him at our meetings. :grouphug: :icon_dance:

So Brian you can run  :icon_stop: :Bolt: but you cannot hide :storm: we can send in our forces :ninjaA: or even use the  :batman: signal over VT if necessary.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Kat Kanning on September 17, 2006, 09:23 AM NHFT
The :bus: is coming for you, Brian Sullivan. 
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: TackleTheWorld on September 17, 2006, 10:23 AM NHFT
Yay! Brian's coming to NH!

I've heard zookeepers say that giraffes have the most calm and gentle personalities.  When I look (way way up) at Brian, I'm reminded of that.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Kat Kanning on September 17, 2006, 10:25 AM NHFT
LOL!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 12:07 AM NHFT
Well you guys all made me smile!  No offers on the house yet in 4 1/2 weeks on the market... oh please, it's a nice old house.  Free me.  ;D

I have my Winter clothes all boxed up from when I sorted through everything pre-move.

We're going to have some fun locally - the local libertarians are going to protest the League of Women Voters Gubenatorial Debate at Cornell next week.  The LP candidate John Clifton is specifically excluded from this debate.  Green party too.  The local progressives are hoping to mobilize 500 people to march from the Ithaca Commons to demand free health care for all!  So we'll all be outside the hall at Cornell, protesting.  What fun!
John will be there too.  He's going to try to ask a question at the mic. http://www.electclifton.org/
Can't wait to join you all.

Brian   :-*
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: cathleeninnh on September 20, 2006, 08:14 AM NHFT
I say, just get out of there. Haven't you seen those cable shows where they spend <$1000 "staging" a house and then get incredible offers for it? Of course, your stuff has to be gone. And of course, it is tv.  :-\

Hop to, Buddy! Get cracking. Do you really think you can dissuade people from "free health care for all"?

Waiting for you.
Cathleen
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: error on September 20, 2006, 08:35 AM NHFT
Free health care is not free. Robbery victims (the rest of us) pay for it.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Kat Kanning on September 20, 2006, 08:38 AM NHFT
Really?  I'd never thought of that.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 20, 2006, 09:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 12:07 AM NHFT
Well you guys all made me smile!  No offers on the house yet in 4 1/2 weeks on the market... oh please, it's a nice old house.  Free me.  ;D
Ask Lex how to price a house to sell. He sold it days after he left.
We will kidnap you and tell your real estate agent to price to sell right away.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 10:11 AM NHFT
Ah, the price!  Yes, I will bring that up with my agent.  A price reduction is in the offing soon...

BTW, the protest at the D/R debate is not against the free health care for all pprogressives, it is about John Clifton being excluded from the debate.  We were surprised to hear of their march and protest.  We will all be in the same area outside the building at Cornell though.

Brian
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Ron Helwig on September 20, 2006, 10:21 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 10:11 AM NHFT
BTW, the protest at the D/R debate is not against the free health care for all pprogressives, it is about John Clifton being excluded from the debate.  We were surprised to hear of their march and protest.  We will all be in the same area outside the building at Cornell though.

In my 2000 Congressional race, I was invited to every debate except the ones put on by the LWV. I checked out their website and found out that they're very socialist.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 20, 2006, 10:24 AM NHFT
Someday soon you will be saved from the typical LP fights ... like debate/ballot access.

We are starting a nonviolent revolution over here. :brave: :grouphug:
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 11:24 AM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on September 20, 2006, 10:24 AM NHFT
Someday soon you will be saved from the typical LP fights ... like debate/ballot access.

We are starting a nonviolent revolution over here. :brave: :grouphug:

I do look forward to NH activism.  In the meantime, it's great fun to be booking Mr. Clifton into media events when he's in town and I look forward to the big protest and event at Cornell!  With the FSP and my NH goals in mind, I no longer feel trapped and frustrated by goliath, except that they've still got their hands in my pockets!  >:D  I'm having fun in town while I'm still here.  I wish we had a Political Graffitti here to videotape it and produce a feature.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: slim on September 20, 2006, 11:29 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 12:07 AM NHFT
Well you guys all made me smile!  No offers on the house yet in 4 1/2 weeks on the market... oh please, it's a nice old house.  Free me.  ;D
Brian   :-*

Brian I hope it does not take you as long to sell your house as one of my co-workers he has had his house on the market for almost 2 years now and he had one offer but the buyer backed out of the deal. No one wants to live in upstate NY the taxes suck the life out of you the economy is terrible. I like to call western NY the armpit of the United States.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: cathleeninnh on September 20, 2006, 11:57 AM NHFT
Every house has a market price. Some people just don't ask it.

Cathleen
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: dawn on September 20, 2006, 12:19 PM NHFT
Right - if a house is priced "right", it will sell. Of course it makes sense to start a little high, since you never quite know where that threshold is. If it sits, it's overpriced. Also depends on how motivated the seller is as to how quickly they will get the price into the right range.

When I was looking at houses, I was looking for a good deal and made low (not ridiculously low, mind you) offers on the properties I was interested in. It was kind of funny - when one house was new on the market, they scoffed at my offer (I think I was their first). A month later, when another deal I was working on fell through (due to a rotted sill!) my realtor told me they were now interested in negotiating (but still at a level I was uncomfortable with). The house I live in now started out with an asking price of about $10K more than what I paid for it, with the upstairs unfinished. I got it for $10K less *with* the upstairs finished. For me, it was all about value for my dollar, as well as an upper level maximum that I had available to spend.

So, price it right and get the heck out of NY! The snow will be flying soon and I'd hate to see you have to unpack your winter clothes!!!!!!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 12:51 PM NHFT
Thanks for the inspiring advice, I needed it. I hate to lower the price after just a month, but there's a cold wind blowing todayl. I'll call my agent.

"Price Reduction"  8)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 20, 2006, 01:50 PM NHFT
Quote from: dawn on September 20, 2006, 12:19 PM NHFT
Also depends on how motivated the seller is

Kidnapping threats are very motivating. :)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Lex on September 20, 2006, 03:46 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on September 20, 2006, 09:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 12:07 AM NHFT
Well you guys all made me smile!  No offers on the house yet in 4 1/2 weeks on the market... oh please, it's a nice old house.  Free me.  ;D
Ask Lex how to price a house to sell. He sold it days after he left.
We will kidnap you and tell your real estate agent to price to sell right away.

You have no choice but to price to sell when faced with the option of paying a huge mortgage, home insurance, etc, etc on a house you're not living in and ontop of that paying for the same things in a new place in NH. Few of us are made of gold  :-\

Surprisingly, we did not tell our agent to price to sell (we would have though if the house didn't sell in a month or two). I think we just got lucky because before we left we did some rennovating and the biggest thing we did was replace all the carpets with laminate. The buyers had lots of allergies and they were specifically looking for a house that did not have any carpet. Our house was the only one in the town that was on sale, without carpet and in their price bracket.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: citizen_142002 on September 20, 2006, 07:14 PM NHFT
Brian, did your agent give you a market analysis when you priced the house? He should have been able to tell you a competitive market price based on what similar houses were selling for. A well priced house should move in about six months, if you need to sell in a month or two a relatively small reduction might work.

If it isn't critical that you sell right away, then I would recomend that you reduce the price gradually. You can always go down in price again if it's taking too long.

Of course, the market has been softening recently, sadly it's a buyer's market.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 07:22 PM NHFT
Yes, a market and neighborhood analysis was done. I've been doing it at the assessment office on and off for two years too, so I think we've got it pretty good.  The real problem I'm told is that the huge selling 'season' here in this college town (Cornell) is April/May.  I missed it, but all I need is one buyer and houses DO sell all year.  another ad came out today and I've got a showing tomorrow!   ;D

Got to go clean up!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Lex on September 20, 2006, 07:53 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 07:22 PM NHFT
Yes, a market and neighborhood analysis was done. I've been doing it at the assessment office on and off for two years too, so I think we've got it pretty good.  The real problem I'm told is that the huge selling 'season' here in this college town (Cornell) is April/May.  I missed it, but all I need is one buyer and houses DO sell all year.  another ad came out today and I've got a showing tomorrow!   ;D

Got to go clean up!

Are you still living in the house you're selling?

From what our real estate agent told us when she was showing our house to people the first thing they noticed was that it was empty and somehow that made them feel very comfortable. I guess this way they don't have to worry about the house being damaged while the owners move out. Basically what they see now is what they will get at buying time which isn't always the case after the movers have gone to town in a house often leaving scratches and other damage in their wake.

Ian's story with his rental house is a great example and most people who have gone through several houses probably experienced something similar so for them an empty house is a much better buy than a full house.

So, I think your house would gain a significant selling advantage if you were to move out before it is sold. And the other advantage is that you could be in NH sooner  :D

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 08:37 PM NHFT
Yep, still here, downtown office in the front and live in the rest. It's really not in the cards at this point for me to move before it's sold.  I did go through the house and got rid of half of my stuff (that feels real good!). There are two empty rooms now and the rest is fixed up as nice as I can make it!

I appreciate everyone's input, keep it coming. I'll use this thread to let you know what's up!

Thanks.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: John on September 21, 2006, 06:43 AM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 08:37 PM NHFT
I appreciate everyone's input, keep it coming.


Please come HOME.
We miss you, Brian.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: John on September 21, 2006, 06:59 AM NHFT
Quote from: dawn on September 20, 2006, 12:19 PM NHFT
. . . and get the heck out of NY! The snow will be flying soon and I'd hate to see you have to unpack your winter clothes!!!!!!


Unpacking in NH is somewhere I think we can all agree is the only place worth unpacking anymore.  Unpacking in NH is the best thing I've ever done!
And as you know, your friends love to help people unpack their trucks . . .  8)
We're here when you're ready.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Dreepa on September 21, 2006, 07:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: citizen_142002 on September 20, 2006, 07:14 PM NHFT
sadly it's a buyer's market.
Only because it has been a seller's market forever.... bad for Brian... good for those buying houses.

Someone in my town said she *only* doubled her money and she was seriously upset because she *lost* $10K in the last 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: cathleeninnh on September 22, 2006, 08:08 AM NHFT
You can't lose something that you never had. Buy and sell points are the ones that matter. The ones in the middle are no more than stress points.

Cathleen
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: 9thmoon on September 25, 2006, 10:31 PM NHFT
I think I sold my house in Seattle at exactly the right time (next week).  I made a 60% return in 3 years... if I'm doing my math right.  And apparently this is a great time to buy in NH  :D
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: mlorrey on September 25, 2006, 10:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 20, 2006, 12:07 AM NHFT
Well you guys all made me smile!  No offers on the house yet in 4 1/2 weeks on the market... oh please, it's a nice old house.  Free me.  ;D

I have my Winter clothes all boxed up from when I sorted through everything pre-move.

We're going to have some fun locally - the local libertarians are going to protest the League of Women Voters Gubenatorial Debate at Cornell next week.  The LP candidate John Clifton is specifically excluded from this debate.  Green party too.  The local progressives are hoping to mobilize 500 people to march from the Ithaca Commons to demand free health care for all!  So we'll all be outside the hall at Cornell, protesting.  What fun!
John will be there too.  He's going to try to ask a question at the mic. http://www.electclifton.org/
Can't wait to join you all.

Brian   :-*

Brian, That would be a really dramatic occasion to tell New York what a shitty state it is, and this exclusion of your candidate, disenfranchising you this election makes it clear that you are not wanted other than for your checkbook, so you won't stay where you are not wanted, you are moving to the Free State, and encourage all the other libertarians to leave the state with you...
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 25, 2006, 11:26 PM NHFT
Indeed Mike!  I do plan to write up a LTE for the local Ithaca Journal and perhaps arrange for a radio interview. It wouldn't surprise me at all to see 6 or 8 of my local libertarian friends join us in NH as well. They have not chosen to join yet, but they will. Me moving will help in the process. I'll be coming back here quite often with a couple hundred clients in the area, so I'll stay in touch with them too!

...someone toured the house today and my agent reports that he's 'interested'.

Brian
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Michael Fisher on September 26, 2006, 12:53 AM NHFT
What? You're leaving all of that welfare, those wonderful government programs, and those great politicians behind?  ::)

This is great news. :)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on September 26, 2006, 01:17 AM NHFT
Yep, NY is a mess and my town, with Cornell here, seems proud to be marching deeper and deeper into agression and socialism. They can have it, I vote for liberty.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Michael Fisher on September 26, 2006, 08:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on September 26, 2006, 01:17 AM NHFT
I vote for liberty.

...with your feet.  8)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 03, 2006, 08:58 AM NHFT
tick tock
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 03, 2006, 09:05 AM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 03, 2006, 08:58 AM NHFT
tick tock

;D

Yes, under a month.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Michael Fisher on October 13, 2006, 09:59 PM NHFT
Tick, tock. :jailbird:
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: John on November 11, 2006, 03:59 PM NHFT
Quote from: Michael Fisher on October 13, 2006, 09:59 PM NHFT
Tick, tock. :jailbird:
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on November 11, 2006, 05:20 PM NHFT
Tick tock!

I've got to sell my house before I move and it's not sold yet.  ???  The real selling season here is the Spring they tell me, so I plan to let the listing expire this week and do some more of the fix-up work on the property that my agent said wouldn't matter, and put it back on the market in the Spring.

Not what I anticipated happening, but I'll be there soon.  Thanks for your encouragement, my friends!   :-*

See you at the Liberty Forum!

Brian   
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 11, 2006, 05:52 PM NHFT
Lucky we dont use force around here.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on March 20, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
I accepted an offer on my house today!  It is contingent upon the house inspection and any price negotiations surrounding that...

but, I am elated!  ;D ;D ;D  The contract says we close on or about June 28th.

Brian
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Rocketman on March 20, 2007, 02:15 PM NHFT
Awesome, dude!   8)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Dreepa on March 20, 2007, 02:22 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on March 20, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
I accepted an offer on my house today!  It is contingent upon the house inspection and any price negotiations surrounding that...

but, I am elated!  ;D ;D ;D  The contract says we close on or about June 28th.

Brian

:broc:   :broc:   :broc:
That calls for dancing veggies!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 20, 2007, 02:52 PM NHFT
very cool

and we didn't even have to use force .... just the threat. ;)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 20, 2007, 03:10 PM NHFT
Yay for Brian!!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Pat K on March 20, 2007, 04:20 PM NHFT
:) cool.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: slim on March 20, 2007, 05:15 PM NHFT
I am glad to hear you "sold" your property in NY. I can't believe anyone would be willing to buy a home in the Empire State, I guess there is a a sucker born every minute.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on March 20, 2007, 05:26 PM NHFT
Quote from: slim on March 20, 2007, 05:15 PM NHFT
I am glad to hear you "sold" your property in NY. I can't believe anyone would be willing to buy a home in the Empire State, I guess there is a a sucker born every minute.

He's from Vermont and he's going to attend Cornell as a grad student here in high tax, progressive Ithaca NY - a match made in heaven!

Thanks everybody!!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: slim on March 20, 2007, 05:42 PM NHFT
Quote from: FSPinNY on March 20, 2007, 05:26 PM NHFT

He's from Vermont and he's going to attend Cornell as a grad student here in high tax, progressive Ithaca NY - a match made in heaven!

Thanks everybody!!
Yea the socialist can have NY. I do feel sorry for the people that are going to be caught in the state. As the burden of the state grows some people are going to be stuck just trying to subsist on the crumbs that the state allows them to keep.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 21, 2007, 09:07 AM NHFT
I am not giving NY to the socialists. I refuse to cooperate with any group that would subjugate the good people of NY. :)
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 21, 2007, 10:37 AM NHFT
Good on You, Brian!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: TackleTheWorld on March 21, 2007, 04:17 PM NHFT
About time, Big Guy!
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: FSPinNY on March 28, 2007, 01:17 PM NHFT
They were here today and it turns out to be not what they are looking for. Too much work to re-model to get what they want out of it.  Oh well, it's back on the market...
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 28, 2007, 01:21 PM NHFT
Awwww.....
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: slim on March 28, 2007, 03:12 PM NHFT
Damn even the socialist don't want to live in NYS  >:D
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 28, 2007, 03:15 PM NHFT
The Keene police or sheriff kidnapped Brian Severance ... it isn't a big step for them to go pick up Brian Sullivan also. Then we will just have to get you out of the little jail.
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: powerchuter on March 28, 2007, 03:26 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 28, 2007, 03:15 PM NHFT
The Keene police or sheriff kidnapped Brian Severance ... it isn't a big step for them to go pick up Brian Sullivan also. Then we will just have to get you out of the little jail.

And the really sad part is that...from the point of view of the "court"...anyone, including Brian Sullivan(or any of us) MIGHT know where David Severance is...so we should all be locked up until the jack-booted child-snatchers/molesters get "their" kid...

Unintended Consequences Anyone?

Where is Henry Bowman when you need him?
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: John on March 29, 2007, 07:22 AM NHFT
WHEREAS:    I'm normally quite against kidnapping.

THEREFORE:   It may become necessary for me to reevaluate our choice of terms.  (Pardon me if I've lately payed too much attention to LEGAL/D.C./FED/WAR speak.)

THEREFORE:   Since "kidnapping" seems to carry "a few" negative connotations, maybe a "rescue effort" should be planned. >:D
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on June 06, 2009, 08:47 PM NHFT
WTH happened to Brian?
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Russell Kanning on June 07, 2009, 05:00 AM NHFT
someone must have kidnapped him ... and it wasn't us
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Kat Kanning on June 07, 2009, 05:13 AM NHFT
Was he at Liberty Forum?
Title: Re: Brian Sullivan kidnapping before the end of October
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on June 07, 2009, 05:22 AM NHFT
I don't remember seeing him at the first two.