Y'all might also be interested in this mailing list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/
Group's description: This is a discussion group dedicated to the ideas and practices of raising libertarian children and actions best taken to guarantee Liberty for the next generation.
I started this group about a month ago hoping to strike a cord with mothers looking for a way to share ideas, questions and experiences - all in an effort to preserve and defend our liberties for the next generation.? (and who better to do so than those actually raising the next generation)
I was so pleased to find this post on NH Underground...thanks for helping me spread the word!
Jan Stover
Founder~ Mothers for Liberty
"The Hand that Rocks the Cradle Rules the World"
Welcome, Jan! I think I've heard of you but can't remember where... hope you will continue to hang around here!
Thanks for the welcome!
You may have seen my name on a few message boards (www.freestateproject.org ?) and some Libertarian yahoo groups. I've been trying to promote the concept behind Mothers for Liberty by putting the idea out there in as many appropriate venues as possible.
Raising and posting issues that hit home with liberty-loving moms certainly creates some interesting dialogue! Currently homeschooling vs government schools is a hot topic on the Mothers for Liberty yahoo group - if you'd like to weigh in on the subject, please join us and feel free to add your 2 cents -? http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/? I'd love to have your input -? we currently have over 25 members and I love to see the group growing and reaching out to other mothers.
Now to borrow Michael Badnarik's closing signature ... Let's Keep Lighting the Fires of Liberty, One (Mother's) Heart at a Time ~
Jan
Ladies,
I'd like to get everyone's take on the idea of creating a "Mothers for Liberty" website and eventually starting a "Mothers for Liberty" national organization - with state and/or regional chapters. Our yahoo group ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/ ) has been providing some interesting comments and I think there would be some real interest in such an organization.
The purpose and intent of each would be similar to what has been described on the yahoo group: "Dedicated to the ideas and practices of raising libertarian children and actions best taken to guarantee Liberty for the next generation. We hope to encourage a dialogue among mothers (and women of all ages) which will in turn promote Liberty and Justice for all."?
I would also promote the concept of "Friends of Mothers for Liberty" which would hopefully provide for greater outreach opportunities...
Any feedback/questions on the idea would be greatly appreciated!
Jan
In one of our first "Mothers for Liberty" posts, I was asked by one of our homeschooling members, "How would I define a "Libertarian Mother"? With Mother's Day coming up this Sunday, I thought it might be appropriate to post my comments on the subject here as well. Hope other moms will do the same.
Thanks,
Jan
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Darlene wrote: How would you define "a Libertarian Mother"?
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What a great question and what a good beginning you already have by being a homeschooling mom. Taking the responsibility of raising and teaching our children is a vital part of the definition. Reclaiming the right AND the responsibility to educate our children as we see fit is perhaps paramount in our quest for Liberty. Teaching them to be responsible for their actions, to understand there is no such thing as a free lunch - nor should there be, to think "outside the box" and to be grounded in the knowledge of our Founding Documents - the Bill of Rights and the U.S. Constitution - are all things consistent with Libertarian Mothering.
In less lofty terms, here's what I did as a Libertarian Mother. I let my boys explore, debate, question, disagree, complain, challenge and teach ME a thing or two.
I involved them with our family's business endeavors so they would see free enterprise at work first hand. I wrote articles and letters to the editor so they would know the importance of a free press. I took on causes, explained my actions and stood by them as they fought their own fights.
We talked politics, tried to live our principles and loved them thru thick and thin.
Jan Stover
Founder ~ Mothers for Liberty
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/
P.S. Happy Mother's Day, Ladies!
5/18/05
Announced on the official Badnarik Blog at: http://www.badnarik.org/
Badnarik Endorses "Mothers for Liberty"
Here is another group of Mothers that are joining forces for the betterment of their children. I have already mentioned their list in a previous post, but it couldn't hurt to mention them again. They currently have a Yahoo group, and they are planning to launch a website, soon. I encourage you to check out the messages at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/ and hopefully subscribe if you would like to help them with their efforts. My mother, Elaine, is one of the contributors.
The list is self-described thusly: This is a discussion group dedicated to the ideas and practices of raising libertarian children and actions best taken to guarantee Liberty for the next generation. We hope to encourage a dialogue among mothers (and women of all ages) which will in turn promote liberty and justice for all.
~ Michael Badnarik 2004 Libertarian Presidential Candidate
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4/13/05
In an earlier post, Michael also writes:
One of the women I met in Springfield has organized a new Yahoo group called "Mothers for Liberty". The purpose of this group is to coordinate the efforts of Libertarian Moms who want to leave a better world for their children. They have honored my mother, Elaine, by asking her to join them as one of their regular contributors. I have great expectations for this group. Never underestimate the power of a determined mother.
Congress is about to expand the drug war - DON'T LET THEM DO IT !!!
New legislation currently making its way through the House of Representatives poses a grave threat. If passed, H.R. 1528 will force
Americans to INFORM (snitch) on their family members, friends or neighbors within 24 hours of acquiring any knowledge about their
involvement in drug related activity, including marijuana.
H.R. 1528 is supposedly designed to "protect children" from drugs -- but the bill is actually anti-family and its implications are far more sinister. Read on....
* If your adult brothers or sisters have children and mention to you that they and their spouses sometimes smoke marijuana in their
bedroom after their kids are asleep, you would be required to immediately inform on them or face prison time.
* If a neighbor under 21 mentions buying some marijuana for a party, you would be required to report him or her to the government or risk
jail time yourself.
* Observe one student passing a joint to another, and you could fall under this law. You would be required to report the incident to
authorities within 24 hours or risk prosecution and a mandatory minimum sentence of two years in prison.
What a threatening new environment this proposed legislation would create for everyone! It would erect barriers of paranoia between
family members, friends, and neighbors and is rife with potential for police abuse, extortion, and the creation of false informants.
DownsizeDC.org is mounting a campaign to defeat this bill. Visit http://action.downsizedc.org/wyc.php?cid=28 to learn more and then
TAKE ACTION BY SENDING A MESSAGE TO CONGRESS telling them what you think of this bill. Please send a message now, while we can still
stop this terrible legislation!
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This is scary stuff! My brother and I were talking about this bill yesterday. I checked out the link last night and sent the prepared
message (along with a strong personal message)to our representatives.
A nation of snitches (either rewarded FOR or punished for NOT snitching) is a dangerous proposition and a far cry from what I want
for myself or my children.
Any thoughts? For more discussion go to: Mothers for Liberty at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/
Jan
HI Jan!! ;D
Hi Jenn ... as they say, "Fancy meeting you here!"
Just wondering - what are your thoughts on HR 1528?
Jan
Quote from: jejstover on June 04, 2005, 08:37 AM NHFT
Hi Jenn ... as they say, "Fancy meeting you here!"
I just had to say Hi when I saw your post, I was thinking the same thing...LOL
Quote from: jejstover on June 04, 2005, 08:37 AM NHFT
Just wondering - what are your thoughts on HR 1528?
I am absolutely against it!!? I hope everyone takes the time to contact their respective representatives in opposition to this ridiculous bill!!? Where do I begin as to what is wrong with this bill...it attempts to pit American against American of course what better way to keep us in line than to have afraid of our own shadow!? This of course is only a gateway bill in my minds eye.? Next it would be illegal to not report your neighbor for having a disparaging remark against a government official or for taking 13 items into the 12 item or less line.
There is a great website that gives a link to help you contact your representatives and gives a good article against this bill.
The site is www.downsizedc.org? To quote Jim Bubka:
"Sensenbrenner wants to make it the law that if you do not inform on your neighbors you can be sentenced to prison! This kind of a system ? neighbors informing on neighbors ? was a key feature of past totalitarian regimes. Is this really what we want for America?"
I know that is not what I want and is in fact what I fear our country will come too... one step closer to nazism.
I was visiting another message board the other day when I came across these references to our " Mothers for Liberty" yahoo group.
"Recently, in a wonderful new email group, Mothers for Liberty (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty), the topic was raised about libertarian women. Someone forwarded a link on an article written on the subject a couple of years ago by Allison Brown (http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig4/brown6.html). I found the viewpoints interesting and accurate in some ways. But I don?t think it?s the whole story."...
and ... It (Mothers for Liberty) was a great idea and is a fabulous group.?
I'm always pleased to see that our message is getting out there and thrilled that other liberty-loving women deem our "Mothers for Liberty" group worthy of a mention!? The first time I came across an unsolicited post about our group was actually Kat's post here on NH Underground.? Must admit it was exciting to see.?
As our membership grows (almost 50 now) I realized it is in no small part due to our members spreading the word.? Thanks for everyone who has shared our info and our link with others!
Jan
We've been talking on some of the other message boards about planning a National Libertarian Women's Conference. Would be a real opportunity to get Libertarian women and libertarian-leaning women talking, networking, organizing, etc...
Any ideas?
Jan
Quote from: jejstover on July 01, 2005, 12:43 AM NHFT
We've been talking on some of the other message boards about planning a National Libertarian Women's Conference. Would be a real opportunity to get Libertarian women and libertarian-leaning women talking, networking, organizing, etc...
Any ideas?
Jan
Any update on this?
Several of us have been talking about a more regional approach at first ... starting with smaller Libertarian Women's Conferences held throughout the country. Maybe tri-state conferences would be appropriate. For example, I currently live in Illinois and can imagine a successful conference which would include women from Illinois as well as our neighboring states of Missouri and Indiana. After such valuable coalitions were formed, we could meld these tri-state conferences into the National Libertarian Women's Conference we would all love to see happen!
Any thoughts?
Jan
Quote from: katdillon on March 20, 2005, 05:35 AM NHFT
Y'all might also be interested in this mailing list:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/
Just wanted to offer a quick update on "Mothers for Liberty". The group had been rather quiet for awhile, but new members are joining (currently 64 total) with new posts spurring on some good conversation again.
I invite others who have not yet checked us out or who haven't visited the group in a while, to do so ... and post your thoughts!
Jan
Any mothers of cute college-age libertarian girls in that group? >:D
Seriously, though, I think raising libertarian children is one of the most important things people in the liberty movement can do; thank you for helping...the children ;)
And seriously, any of the mothers looking to marry off their girls? We can read von Mises and Hayek to each other. That's my idea of a fun date :-*
Quote from: Braddogg on August 01, 2006, 03:52 PM NHFT
Any mothers of cute college-age libertarian girls in that group? >:D
Seriously, though, I think raising libertarian children is one of the most important things people in the liberty movement can do; thank you for helping...the children ;)
Sorry, I raised 2 liberty-loving sons. ;-)
And you are right ... raising libertarian children is one of the most important things we can do for liberty. Other movements/political parties realize this and reach out to high school and college age kids - we need to do the same (and even earlier ... hence the Mothers for Lliberty approach!)
What a fantastic group!! I just joined. I'm raising three liberty loving children of my own. I couldn't agree more with those of you who've stated what an important thing it is we are doing for future generations.
Quote from: Kelly Halldorson on August 05, 2006, 08:13 PM NHFT
What a fantastic group!! I just joined.
Kelly,
Glad you joined. I started the group with the hope that other moms would find the idea as exciting as I did. Networking/communicating with small "l" and big "L" libertarian moms/women seems an effective way to bring about change through the next generation we are raising/have raised ... and generations yet to come. I invite you and others on this forum to spread the word about "Mothers for Liberty" through the other forums/blogs/message boards you belong to ... political or otherwise. The more people hear about us - the more likely we are to grow in membership and ideas!
Thanks,
Jan
On Feb 24th, "Mothers for Liberty" yahoo group will celebrate it 2nd anniversary. This group offers mothers raising freedom-loving children a chance to share experiences, information and networking opportunities.
The group's newer (more concise) description reads as such: This is a discussion group dedicated to the ideas and practices of raising libertarian children (i.e. teaching, understanding and implementing the concepts of individual freedom and personal responsibility). We are dedicated to the work of restoring/maintaining liberty for our children and future generations.
We encourage a dialogue among mothers (and women of all ages and stages) which promotes these stated goals."
As interest in the group has grown (nearly 75 members representing over 15 states throughout the US - the largest number coming from NH ;-) I have decided to take the next step and form a non-profit organization called "The Mothers Institute" which will incorporate our Mothers for Liberty concepts and expand on them.
MI's mission statement (first draft) is as follows:
"The Mothers Institute is an educational and networking organization promoting methods of mothering which foster a child's sense of individual freedom and personal responsibility. The Institute also encourages the teaching and implementation of time honored traditions including reason, logic, creativity, civility, debate and dissent."
Please pass on the above information to any/all mothers/others you think might be interested in the group ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/ ) and/or the organization. It would be great to see our Mothers for Liberty membership increase to 100 + before our 3rd year begins.
Thanks much!
Jan
I'm joining now, 3 mo old on my lap... ;-)
Quote from: PassionatePantherrr on March 28, 2007, 07:16 PM NHFT
I'm joining now, 3 mo old on my lap... ;-)
Hope you've been enjoying the discussions at Mothers for Liberty ... got a little heated there regarding Ron Paul's campaign, but it seems to me the best time/place to hash out our thoughts/ideas/opinions/questions is BEFORE we enter the polling booth and such conversations are to our advantage. ;-)
If you're interested, I've recently started another group called Libertarian Moms and the discussions/topics there are VERY active!!! Check us out at: http://www.cafemom.com/group/libertarian_moms
About Libertarian Moms:
This is a place for moms who believe in the libertarian message (i.e. individual freedom and personal responsibility). Whether you are a card-carrying Libertarian or simply have libertarian-leanings, join us as we discuss how to maintain/restore our liberties for ourselves, our children, our grandchildren and generations yet to come.
Jan
Jan-
I've been trying to keep tabs, hard with a little guy who doesn't like it when mom pays attention to the computer. I'll try to take a look at the new board in the next few days. Thanks for keeping the conversations lively, if we don't teach our children to be responsible for themselves and their actions, and what it means to be truly free, who will? :-)
-Denise
Quote from: jejstover on May 01, 2007, 10:24 AM NHFT
If you're interested, I've recently started another group called Libertarian Moms and the discussions/topics there are VERY active!!! Check us out at: http://www.cafemom.com/group/libertarian_moms
About Libertarian Moms:
This is a place for moms who believe in the libertarian message (i.e. individual freedom and personal responsibility). Whether you are a card-carrying Libertarian or simply have libertarian-leanings, join us as we discuss how to maintain/restore our liberties for ourselves, our children, our grandchildren and generations yet to come.
Jan
Quote from: PassionatePantherrr on May 01, 2007, 09:34 PM NHFT
Jan-
I've been trying to keep tabs, hard with a little guy who doesn't like it when mom pays attention to the computer. I'll try to take a look at the new board in the next few days. Thanks for keeping the conversations lively, if we don't teach our children to be responsible for themselves and their actions, and what it means to be truly free, who will? :-)
-Denise
Exactly!
BTW, I remember the days when my sons were little and didn't appreciate much of anything I paid attention to unless it was them ;-)
Feel free to add your ideas and experiences to our Mothers for Liberty group as your time permits and I'll keep my eye on the members list of our Libertarian Moms group in hopes you'll join us one day.
Thanks for the feedback.
Jan
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MothersForLiberty/
http://www.cafemom.com/group/libertarian_moms
All,
I'm thinking about putting together a "Mothers for Liberty" cookbook and would love to get your thoughts on the idea and a sampling of recipes from any and all interested moms/women.
A portion of the proceeds would be donated to The Mothers Institute (the non-profit organization I have been working on in conjuction w/my advisory board) and may also be used as a fundraising tool for additional endeavors.
So please be thinking about some of your unique family recipes you may want to share/submit ... casseroles, side dishes, sandwiches, desserts, snacks, camping, recipes easy to prepare with kids, holidays recipes and more. Also if the recipe has a story or memory to go along with it, all the better.
If you're interested, please let me know. Once you decide what recipe you would like to submit, feel free to send it directly on to me.
This could be a great project and a valuable finished product!
Also, please visit our "Mothers for Liberty" website at: http://www.mothersforliberty.com/ Its just a homepage at this point, but gives you a feel for what is to come.
Looking forward to your feedback!
Jan
Good idea!
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