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Title: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 05, 2007, 09:50 PM NHFT
I received a call from my ex-wife in California today. I have not heard from her in 2 years. She told me that my 3 kids have been getting my postcards and that I may be able to start calling them again. :)
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Insurgent on March 05, 2007, 09:57 PM NHFT
Applause! :D
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: error on March 05, 2007, 10:02 PM NHFT
Wonderful news!
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: NC2NH on March 05, 2007, 10:24 PM NHFT
:hello2:
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Pat K on March 05, 2007, 10:25 PM NHFT
 ;D 8)
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 05, 2007, 10:36 PM NHFT
Great!
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 05, 2007, 11:28 PM NHFT
My oldest (17) was planning on going into rotc but changed his mind in the last year .... so that is a relief. The picture of him walking down a street in Iraq trying to decide who to shoot was disconcerting.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: KBCraig on March 06, 2007, 02:21 AM NHFT
Congratulations, Russell!

You don't air your personal business, although many of us know you had a life before NH, and there's quite a divide between the two. As someone who also has a before/after life, I do understand the pain and heartbreak of being separated from your children.

Despite the difficult history with their mother, I do stay in contact with my two sons from that marriage. I'm very proud of my oldest; you can see why by his comment ("AndyThePug")at my blog:
http://cs.newhampshire.com/blogs/homeward_bound/archive/2007/03/02/Unintended-Consequences.aspx

His moniker is curious. He has two pugs, but he's most un-puglike himself, being 6' tall and 140 pounds.

He's the offspring voted most likely to join us (by choice) in New Hampshire.  ;D

But anyway... I'm glad to hear you're connecting with your kids. Separation is a mo-fo. Been there. Done that. Ripped my t-shirt, tore my hair, gnashed my teeth, all that.

Kevin
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 08:47 AM NHFT
I was crazy before I came to NH.
But my big change came after my ex kicked me out of my house, divorced me, kept me away from my kids mostly. I have had to reevaluate what I "deserve" or what things I have a "right" to.
I have been on an extended midlife crises since 2000. :) In some ways I have returned to my life as a class clown goof off childhood. I don't think I should ever go back. The feds will just have to kill me. I am not going back inside the cage. :)
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: cathleeninnh on March 06, 2007, 09:02 AM NHFT
Almost everyone (besides the youngsters) I meet has before and after lives. We don't talk about it much, probably because it is painful. I know that I am a better person now than I was before. I also had a recent whiff of the past. My daughter(32) has been estranged from her father since age 17. I was surprised to learn that she invited him to her husband's graduation from law school. I'm glad she can now reach out to him (the scumbag), but not surprised that he turned her down.

I guess it is just a sign of the times. Too bad that it sometimes takes painful experiences to get to where you like yourself.

I am very happy for you Russell. I'm crossing fingers for your renewed relationship with your children.

Cathleen
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 06, 2007, 09:31 AM NHFT
His ex said Russell's daughter was so sad when she saw a photo of the three of us, happy, like Russell's just didn't want her.  When all this time he hasn't been allowed to see her or speak to her.  Just about broke my heart to hear the photo made her sad.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 06, 2007, 09:32 AM NHFT
Good news indeed... I'm happy for you and your kids. :)

My parents had an awful divorce... their case is studied in law school I understand.

My distrust of the "judicial system" stems from my treatment in family court.

Not having a father in your life is tough... hey just look at the way I turned out. ;D
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 06, 2007, 10:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 06, 2007, 09:31 AM NHFT
His ex said Russell's daughter was so sad when she saw a photo of the three of us, happy, like Russell's just didn't want her.  When all this time he hasn't been allowed to see her or speak to her.  Just about broke my heart to hear the photo made her sad.

Kids are always victims in family separations.  They shouldn't be used as pawns.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: eques on March 06, 2007, 10:06 AM NHFT
Three cheers, Russell, for this event in your life.  :)

My parents ended up getting divorced when I was, what, 10?  I can't remember.  I've asked, been told the answer, and I still can't remember.

I don't know if there is much of a "before"... my entire life seems like an "after"... heh.  One might even say, defined by it.

Sometimes kids "know" things... but it's all too easy for them to misunderstand, especially when communication is already something one or both parents struggle with... actions (perceived or otherwise) speak so much louder than words.


So, again, three cheers, Russell, for this event in your life.  :)
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 11:34 AM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on March 06, 2007, 09:32 AM NHFT
My parents had an awful divorce... their case is studied in law school I understand.
My distrust of the "judicial system" stems from my treatment in family court.
Not having a father in your life is tough... hey just look at the way I turned out. ;D
Having seen the results of your upbringing ... we need to study this and make sure this never happens again. :)

One of the 1st times I stopped listening to the government was to ignore all the divorce/custody court appearances and decisions. I wouldn't fight her in court or obey their rulings.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 06, 2007, 12:27 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 11:34 AM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on March 06, 2007, 09:32 AM NHFT
My parents had an awful divorce... their case is studied in law school I understand.
My distrust of the "judicial system" stems from my treatment in family court.
Not having a father in your life is tough... hey just look at the way I turned out. ;D
Having seen the results of your upbringing ... we need to study this and make sure this never happens again. :)

One of the 1st times I stopped listening to the government was to ignore all the divorce/custody court appearances and decisions. I wouldn't fight her in court or obey their rulings.

;D ;D ;D

You did your children a service by not fighting (in court especially). :)

The court battles in my family went on for 20 years,
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 06, 2007, 12:31 PM NHFT
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/06/indiana.crash.ap/ :'(
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 06, 2007, 01:24 PM NHFT
Yuck.  I guess some guys aren't so nice when their wives dump them.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Dreepa on March 06, 2007, 01:26 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd 'Posterboy' Danforth on March 06, 2007, 12:31 PM NHFT
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/06/indiana.crash.ap/ :'(
They should ban these planes.... being used like that.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: eques on March 06, 2007, 01:40 PM NHFT
They should ban marriage.

That's obviously the problem here.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: error on March 06, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
The problem here is that the government is already far too involved in everyone's interpersonal and most intimate relationships.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Raineyrocks on March 06, 2007, 03:16 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd 'Posterboy' Danforth on March 06, 2007, 12:31 PM NHFT
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/03/06/indiana.crash.ap/ :'(

It seems this kind of thing is happening more and more, not with planes but the homicide/suicide stuff over break ups with relationships and children, doesn't it? 
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 04:05 PM NHFT
My ex-wife used to worry about me kidnapping the kids and taking them to Wyoming. They flew commercially if at all though. :)
She still is not sure if she will let me see them. She has promised to let my parents (plus sister and her kids) see them when they are in Socal in may for my brothers wedding. I will not be going, partly to ensure that they can see my kids. Kinda goodnews/badnews sort of thing.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: money dollars on March 06, 2007, 04:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 11:34 AM NHFT
One of the 1st times I stopped listening to the government was to ignore all the divorce/custody court appearances and decisions. I wouldn't fight her in court or obey their rulings.
Does that mean the government says you owe a bunch of child support?
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 06, 2007, 04:28 PM NHFT
Quote from: money dollars on March 06, 2007, 04:21 PM NHFT
Does that mean the government says you owe a bunch of child support?
Yea ... like $120,000.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Pat K on March 06, 2007, 06:39 PM NHFT
My eyes almost fell out when I saw that Cathleen
typed the word scumbag.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: cathleeninnh on March 06, 2007, 06:50 PM NHFT
  Don't ever cross me as I have more where that came from. ;)

Cathleen
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Pat K on March 06, 2007, 08:41 PM NHFT
Yes Mam. Sorry Mam.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: KBCraig on March 06, 2007, 09:03 PM NHFT
Such salty language!  :blush:
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 07, 2007, 01:21 PM NHFT
My ex-wife mentioned that it concerned her when I have threatened force ... particularly with say ... a shotgun.
I didn't understand where she was getting those quotes. Maybe I found it.

http://www.qando.net/details.aspx?Entry=2015


Now, as you can see by a very quick perusal of Russell Kanning's entry on the "New Hampshire Underground" website, being arrested would seem to be exactly that for which he ws hoping. And in fact if you refer to the NH Indy media site here, he announced in May he planned on doing exactly what happened today.
"My goal is to get on the plane with no I.D. and a big goddamn gun, if it's this time or next time...I'll just keep trying to do it."

Kanning stresses that he will not resist arrest or do anything that might be perceived as physically threatening if you aren't a sissy. He says this act of nonviolent resistance will follow the model laid down by Mahatma Gandhi, who used peaceful noncooperation to expel the British from India but would have been better served by a Sten MK V submachine gun.

"We'll go slowly, we'll talk with them, we might even tell them everything we're going to do ahead of time. We're *not* trying to hurt anybody unless personal defense requires us to begin shooting," he says.
Obviously he decided to not take the gun this time, but if you think this is the speech of a 'libertarian', I'm sorry, I disagree.

Now you might wonder if "the authorities" might have been looking for him. Well, yes, and he was about 4 days late:
Summary:

What: Civil disobedience against airplane passenger I.D. requirement and anti-Second Amendment measures.

Where: Manchester Airport in New Hampshire (exact spot to be determined)

When: Saturday, June 11 @ noon

Who: Russell Kanning of Keene, NH, supporters from NHfree.com

Why: To draw attention to the fact that without a government license, you can barely go anywhere, and without a government law enforcement badge, you can't bring personal protection on to an aeroplane. You think those hijackers would have threatened anyone with a bunch of puny boxcutters if passengers could carry? NO SIR! Instead of a US Air snack box, they'da been given a lead sandwich... A few guys with office equipment should not be able to kill 3,000 people, and I for one will nevar forget.

How: By approaching a TSA checkpoint with a ticket but no I.D and a big honkin' gun, then walking forward through it until arrested or allowed to board. More contacts and details to appear in future releases, which you can find at NHfree.com and for more information about the right to bear arms on airplanes, visit keepandbeararms.com
Now, Thomas, you may feel a reason to support this stupidity, I just don't. The fact that he wimped out on the gun bit doesn't at all change the fact that it was his announced intent to take a gun on an aircraft. My guess is that might have put a few folks on edge, especially after the fact that this nimrod had previously announced "We're *not* trying to hurt anybody unless personal defense requires us to begin shooting".
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 07, 2007, 01:26 PM NHFT
I couldn't figure out where those strange quotes were coming from. Some of the words are mine, but I was afraid it was a press release gone wrong. Then I followed the indymedia link.

http://nhindymedia.org/mod/comments/display/2612/index.php


A suggestion for you, Russell

Man without ID vows to board plane makes for a pretty good libertarian protest.
But Man without I.D. vows to board flight with a gun makes for a pretty awesome libertarian protest. Of course, it would be best for the cause of liberty if said gun was purchased without a license.

In case you decide at the last minute to go with my idea, and don't have time to write a new press release, I have edited your old one to meet the demands of this freedom fight. My corrections are in bold.
NH Man without I.D. and a gun vows to board flight or be jailed


Inspired by New Hampshire's "outlaw manicurist," another Granite Stater is stepping forward - literally - to defy license-related laws like gun control. Russell Kanning of Keene has announced he will approach a TSA checkpoint at Manchester airport on June 11, refuse to show a drivers' license, then continue walking toward his flight packing heat until arrested or allowed to board.
"In a free country," he says, "You do not need the government's permission to travel. Nor should you need permission to get a gun, use a gun, or stow a gun in your carry-on.

Kanning noted that the Second Amendment does not qualify the circumstances under which a citizen can bear arms. Instead it states that '...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.'
Kanning asked rhetorically, "Can you imagine what The Founders would say if they knew we did not allow citizens to bear arms aboard our whirligigs and flying contraptions?"

"My goal is to get on the plane with no I.D. and a big goddamn gun, if it's this time or next time...I'll just keep trying to do it."
Kanning stresses that he will not resist arrest or do anything that might be perceived as physically threatening if you aren't a sissy. He says this act of nonviolent resistance will follow the model laid down by Mahatma Gandhi, who used peaceful noncooperation to expel the British from India but would have been better served by a Sten MK V submachine gun.

"We'll go slowly, we'll talk with them, we might even tell them everything we're going to do ahead of time. We're *not* trying to hurt anybody unless personal defense requires us to begin shooting," he says.

But Kanning says the parallels with Gandhi's situation go further than a shared belief in nonviolence.
"In South Africa (where Gandhi's protests began), Indians had to have special I.D...so it's very similar that way, and he wanted to burn it...He was appealing to that same basic idea that we have rights to not have to have paperwork to be able to move freely."

Kenning commented, "Also, Gandhi wrote in Chapter XXVII of The Recruiting Campaign: 'Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.'"
"Of course, Gandhi failed to mention that those British misdeeds included denying Indians the use of guns aboard planes," Kanning went on to add. "But we shouldn't criticize Gandhi too much for this ommission. Nobody is perfect. Even Mikail Kalashnikov, for all his good work, was a commie."

Earlier this month another Gandhi and gun admirer, Mike Fisher of Newmarket, used the Mahatma's techniques to protest business licensing. He announced he would perform an unlicensed manicure in front of the state licensing offices, earning a brief trip to jail and heavy regional media coverage for his point of view. Despite the fact that cuticles can be a lot of trouble, Mike unfortunately forgot to bring his gun to the manicuring session.
Kanning says Fisher's example inspired him to take similar action against personal licensing, which affects far more people, but this time the gun would be remembered. He believes the Real I.D. amendment passed by the Senate this month will make things even worse and may require the use of guns and the blood of patriots to secure liberty against tyranny. But he says it's important to stay positive. "The goal is we want to get to the point where we can travel without having to have paperwork and have the arms we need aboard airplanes to defend against the occasional attack by sky bears, so this is the beginning of that. We see light at the end of the barrel. " Currently the plan is for Kanning to arrive at the airport around noon, approaching the security checkpoint at around 12:30 p.m. He may tweak the timing a bit if need be to avoid delaying other passengers and to ensure he gets in a few good rounds at the local gun club beforehand to, you know, loosen up a bit.

Summary:
What: Civil disobedience against airplane passenger I.D. requirement and anti-Second Amendment measures.
Where: Manchester Airport in New Hampshire (exact spot to be determined)
When: Saturday, June 11 @ noon
Who: Russell Kanning of Keene, NH, supporters from NHfree.com
Why: To draw attention to the fact that without a government license, you can barely go anywhere, and without a government law enforcement badge, you can't bring personal protection on to an aeroplane. You think those hijackers would have threatened anyone with a bunch of puny boxcutters if passengers could carry? NO SIR! Instead of a US Air snack box, they'da been given a lead sandwich... A few guys with office equipment should not be able to kill 3,000 people, and I for one will nevar forget.

How: By approaching a TSA checkpoint with a ticket but no I.D and a big honkin' gun, then walking forward through it until arrested or allowed to board. More contacts and details to appear in future releases, which you can find at NHfree.com and for more information about the right to bear arms on airplanes, visit keepandbeararms.com
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Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 07, 2007, 01:28 PM NHFT
So it was an altered press release. One of the obvious flaws was that I never appeal to the second amendment. I cannot even quote it.

Not that there is anything wrong with guntoting. I just have not done it since I have been in NH.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: money dollars on March 07, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
yea, that one was pretty good  :P

Quote from: president on June 06, 2005, 07:16 PM NHFT
have you guys seen this, posted 22 May 2005:

http://nhindymedia.org/mod/comments/display/2612/index.php

NH Man without I.D. and a gun vows to board flight or be jailed
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: error on March 07, 2007, 03:30 PM NHFT
As far as I've ever known, "big goddamn gun" is slang for the weapon with which all males are born. ;D
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 07, 2007, 03:48 PM NHFT
The idea of Russell saying god damn... is even harder to believe than the gun part.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 07, 2007, 07:46 PM NHFT
True!  I've never heard him cuss.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 07, 2007, 08:26 PM NHFT
I don't see what cursing would accomplish.
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 08, 2007, 09:24 AM NHFT
Good for, occasional, emphasis ;D

From the age of 12 until 18, I worked in a sporting goods store. It was a hangout for men and the language was 'salty' and there were many crude names for members of every race, religion or sexual preference.  I was one of the guys around the guys, but, never brought it home.  Neither of my parents had, or, at least exhibited prejudices of any kind and taught us to judge people by their behavior, so, I never bought any of the racist, nazi, misogynist crap.

An old friend of mine, a major activist with the dems in CT who had a lot to do with dumping Lieberman, says 'fuck' every other sentence.  He has been doing this for years.  He attends meetings all of the time.  I don't go to these meetings.  Perhaps he is on better behavior at those meetings, but, he is so at home with the word 'fuck', I doubt it.

When I first started dating my ex wife she was living in a boarding house with a bunch of guys who hovered between 18 and 22, or so.  Her language was 'salty'.  I explained to her that that language didn't bother me any, but, it was just a bad habit to get into, and, should be used with discretion and for emphasis. 
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: cathleeninnh on March 08, 2007, 11:43 AM NHFT
I admit that my favorite curse word is fart. Explosive, yet satisfying.

Cathleen
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 08, 2007, 11:45 AM NHFT
Since I will be using this thread to update my good or bad news  .... eventually I will have to cut out all of Lloyd's posts. :)
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 08, 2007, 11:49 AM NHFT
I notice you're not threatening Cathleen
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 08, 2007, 12:11 PM NHFT
She said fart... aaaahhhhh!

Now Cathleen is ruining it for the rest of us.  ;D
Title: Re: Good personal news
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 08, 2007, 04:02 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd  Danforth on March 08, 2007, 11:49 AM NHFT
I notice you're not threatening Cathleen
forum nazis are very arbitrary