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Title: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 13, 2007, 08:13 PM NHFT
I need a Shire drivers license.

Whoever designs the best one Kat will print it up and put it in one of those laminated pockets we use for making Keene Free Press press cards.

Business card sized
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Pat K on October 13, 2007, 08:18 PM NHFT
Should it be in the name of

Howler T Monkey ?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 13, 2007, 08:36 PM NHFT
that would work

Seth told me tonight if he ever is arrested he is telling them my name.
anyone is free to use that name tell them .... Russell .... Kanning .... with a "K"
2 lls ... unless you donate one to the small l libertarian society

It also might be helpful to send one in to Lauren. :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Jim Johnson on October 13, 2007, 09:25 PM NHFT
Can anyone tell me why this thread made me cry?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Pat K on October 13, 2007, 10:13 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 13, 2007, 08:36 PM NHFT
that would work

Seth told me tonight if he ever is arrested he is telling them my name.
anyone is free to use that name tell them .... Russell .... Kanning .... with a "K"
2 lls ... unless you donate one to the small l libertarian society

It also might be helpful to send one in to Lauren. :)

At the last porcfest, nightly um power discusions, I made it
formal policy, that anyone who gets arrested was to give your name.

I guess not every one got the memo.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Pat K on October 13, 2007, 10:15 PM NHFT
Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on October 13, 2007, 09:25 PM NHFT
Can anyone tell me why this thread made me cry?


Because your just a big Norwegian, Nancy girl ?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: dalebert on October 13, 2007, 11:20 PM NHFT
Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on October 13, 2007, 09:25 PM NHFT
Can anyone tell me why this thread made me cry?

I'm there with ya, Jim.  :'(

Of course not anyone's fault here. The situation just really really sux right now.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 14, 2007, 08:09 AM NHFT
Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on October 13, 2007, 09:25 PM NHFT
Can anyone tell me why this thread made me cry?
I don't know ... why?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: firecracker joe on October 14, 2007, 10:21 PM NHFT
so if i wanted a shire drivers liscense could i get one too?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Roycerson on October 14, 2007, 10:39 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 13, 2007, 08:36 PM NHFT
that would work

Seth told me tonight if he ever is arrested he is telling them my name.
anyone is free to use that name tell them .... Russell .... Kanning .... with a "K"
2 lls ... unless you donate one to the small l libertarian society

It also might be helpful to send one in to Lauren. :)

I'm curious.  Does this mean you have some objection to a Kingdom of Heaven DL and tag?  What would that objection be?

I thought they would be right up your alley.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: FTL_Ian on October 15, 2007, 03:04 PM NHFT
If the Florida gang decides not to renew mine next year, I may need one of these as well.

Perhaps whoever ends up creating one can post a Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro file for easy editing...
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 15, 2007, 08:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: jose on October 14, 2007, 10:21 PM NHFT
so if i wanted a shire drivers liscense could i get one too?
As soon as one is designed ... we could make um up. :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 15, 2007, 08:20 PM NHFT
We could trade them
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 15, 2007, 08:23 PM NHFT
Quote from: Roycerson on October 14, 2007, 10:39 PM NHFT
I'm curious.  Does this mean you have some objection to a Kingdom of Heaven DL and tag?  What would that objection be?

I thought they would be right up your alley.
I do like the Kingdom of Heaven guys. That is where we got the idea for alternative id. Caleb even has some of their stuff.
When I read everything on their website, I think the reason I didn't get one of their licenses is because they want me to commit to something I can't promise. I forget what it was.
I have wanted one for a while. I started this thread in hopes that someone with design skills could create one. I guess everyone is taking me so seriously that they are not just running with it.
I can't do graphics. I am a bean counter and wanna be constructor.

I think it will be helpful to hand the thugs a shire license ... to let them know what they are getting into. :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: dan_sayers on October 16, 2007, 01:02 AM NHFT
Treat my brain like a newborn on this as I'm truly posting to learn. Isn't there a HUGE difference between not taking state-issued tracking and impersonating state-issued tracking?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: penguins4me on October 16, 2007, 07:04 AM NHFT
It's only "forged" if it tries to pass itself off as a (in this case) New Hampshire license. I'm sure what folks here have in mind is something that probably is filled to the brim with references to limited powers, freedom of travel, etc. That is, it won't even come close to looking similar to a copy of state papers.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 16, 2007, 07:18 AM NHFT
     





                                                                    OFFICIAL SHIRE DRIVER'S THINGY
                                                                                          I saw Russel Drive
                                                                                          He's a gud Driver
                                                                                                  Llloyd
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: dalebert on October 16, 2007, 10:17 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd  Danforth on October 16, 2007, 07:18 AM NHFT
                                                                    OFFICIAL SHIRE DRIVER'S THINGY
                                                                                          I saw Russel Drive
                                                                                          He's a gud Driver
                                                                                                  Llloyd

Ouch! Ouch! Laughing too hard!

Well, that's probably as good as the state's version to tell if someone is a good driver.
:-\
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Kat Kanning on October 16, 2007, 07:16 PM NHFT
The traveling 'l'.  :D
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 16, 2007, 07:34 PM NHFT
I gave it a go.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5034/shiredl1lw9.jpg)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: slim on October 16, 2007, 07:35 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on October 16, 2007, 07:34 PM NHFT
I gave it a go.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5034/shiredl1lw9.jpg)
I love that it looks beautiful!!
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 07:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: dan_sayers on October 16, 2007, 01:02 AM NHFT
Treat my brain like a newborn on this as I'm truly posting to learn. Isn't there a HUGE difference between not taking state-issued tracking and impersonating state-issued tracking?
mine is 4 fun
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 07:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on October 16, 2007, 07:34 PM NHFT
I gave it a go.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5034/shiredl1lw9.jpg)
I love it ... so how can I us it?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 16, 2007, 08:01 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 07:51 PM NHFT
I love it ... so how can I use it?

Umm, however you want to?  :P

I can change/add/subtract any of the information on it.
Then I guess you would have to get it printed out and laminated.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Pat K on October 16, 2007, 08:19 PM NHFT
Very cool Puke.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 16, 2007, 08:40 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 07:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on October 16, 2007, 07:34 PM NHFT
I gave it a go.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5034/shiredl1lw9.jpg)
I love it ... so how can I us it?

Keep the picture, change name to Russel, birthdate: 9/11/01
Llloyd
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 08:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on October 16, 2007, 08:01 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 07:51 PM NHFT
I love it ... so how can I use it?

Umm, however you want to?  :P

I can change/add/subtract any of the information on it.
Then I guess you would have to get it printed out and laminated.
Could you change the info to match mine?

Russell Kanning
May 8th, 1970
Hobbiton

I could do a signature and add it as a layer in the gimp.
I need to find a bumpkin photo
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 08:47 PM NHFT
I could use this one ... notice the 2 "ll"s for wikipedia

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Russell_Kanning.jpg/250px-Russell_Kanning.jpg

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b2/Russell_Kanning.jpg/250px-Russell_Kanning.jpg)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 16, 2007, 08:49 PM NHFT
maybe issed today
expiration?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on October 16, 2007, 10:17 PM NHFT
I'm considering one too.  Haven't decided. 
I would suggest that they all say something on it as a kind of logo, to make it easier for the cops to know who is likely to not be very cooperative.   ;D
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 16, 2007, 10:59 PM NHFT
Tomorrow, the word not the date
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: error on October 17, 2007, 02:42 AM NHFT
Russell is in Wikipedia?!?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: KBCraig on October 17, 2007, 03:33 AM NHFT
Quote from: error on October 17, 2007, 02:42 AM NHFT
Russell is in Wikipedia?!?

Yup, with the "biographical article about a United States activist" tag, in the "American tax resisters" and "American activist" categories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Kanning

Lauren is, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_canario

Wikipedia requires a certain number of news, academic, or popular culture cites to allow an article to stand before they yank it. I don't know what the magic number is, but both pages are still up without warnings (except for a clean-up request on Lauren's page).
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 17, 2007, 05:17 AM NHFT
I'll work on it some more today. I have to go to work now though.  :'(
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 08:07 AM NHFT
I think anything that references the shire will do the trick for tying them together.

I like loyds idea for a expiration date .... "Expires: Tomorrow".

Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Jim Johnson on October 17, 2007, 10:22 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on October 17, 2007, 03:33 AM NHFT
Quote from: error on October 17, 2007, 02:42 AM NHFT
Russell is in Wikipedia?!?

Yup, with the "biographical article about a United States activist" tag, in the "American tax resisters" and "American activist" categories.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Kanning

Lauren is, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_canario

Wikipedia requires a certain number of news, academic, or popular culture cites to allow an article to stand before they yank it. I don't know what the magic number is, but both pages are still up without warnings (except for a clean-up request on Lauren's page).


Lauren's page has many mistakes and is actually slanderous to Wal-Mart.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: supperman15 on October 17, 2007, 10:37 AM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 08:07 AM NHFT
I think anything that references the shire will do the trick for tying them together.

I like loyds idea for a expiration date .... "Expires: Tomorrow".


"Expires upon death or slavery"
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Jim Johnson on October 17, 2007, 10:57 AM NHFT
Quote from: supperman15 on October 17, 2007, 10:37 AM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 08:07 AM NHFT
I think anything that references the shire will do the trick for tying them together.

I like loyds idea for a expiration date .... "Expires: Tomorrow".


"Expires upon death or slavery"

"Expires upon death of slavery"
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on October 17, 2007, 11:55 AM NHFT
Expires on Either of the Following to take Place First: Tomorrow, Imprisonment 
The shire may work as a logo.  I like how puke wrote it in the pic. 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: KBCraig on October 17, 2007, 12:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Facilitator to the Icon on October 17, 2007, 10:22 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on October 17, 2007, 03:33 AM NHFT
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lauren_canario

Lauren's page has many mistakes and is actually slanderous to Wal-Mart.

<russell>"You should fix that."</russell>

Anyone can edit wikipedia pages. I've corrected errors where I've spotted them. I don't know what the errors are on Lauren's page.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: mvpel on October 17, 2007, 01:01 PM NHFT
Zebra/Eltron has plastic card printers, and even smart-card production systems:

(http://www.zebracard.com/id/card/na/en/index/industries/applications/smart_cards.252.0.Image.jpg)

Handy place to store your PGP keys, perhaps?

The Zebra P520i is a pretty swanky unit - full color, 2-pass duplex, laminated, etc.

(http://www.zebracard.com/id/products/global/en/printers/card/p520i.Image.133.0.Image.gif)

Costs about $7,000, though.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: srqrebel on October 17, 2007, 01:08 PM NHFT
I absolutely love Puke's design.  The stylized "Shire" is awesome!  I want one of those for sure.

Will the Shire waiting lines move faster than those at the State DMVs?  :P 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 17, 2007, 03:19 PM NHFT
Here is version two. If you plan to use this Russell please let me e-mail you the un-compressed version. It will look much better.
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7348/shiredl2wm0.jpg)

If you want a signature on the card I would suggest right above the name. SInce I can't forge people's signatures I'll just leave that up to you.
I would also suggest that if you want one of these for yourself, PM me your info and as large a face picture as you can. Preferably a picture taken as close to your face as possible without looking stupid and a blank background would also be good.
The pic for Russell is a bit far away, but the sign works fantastically with the theme.  :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 17, 2007, 03:38 PM NHFT
I just thought, should there be a backside to this?
What should be on the back?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 07:57 PM NHFT
I don't know. Maybe I could put an address ..... like the one at the county jail.

I absolutely love the license. I will have to print it out and use one of those cool 3m jackets we get from Walmart.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 07:59 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on October 17, 2007, 03:19 PM NHFT
Here is version two. If you plan to use this Russell please let me e-mail you the un-compressed version. It will look much better.
(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7348/shiredl2wm0.jpg)
yes I will use it ... please send the good version.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 17, 2007, 08:01 PM NHFT
I don't know how big it will be when printed out. The full size image is 8 inches by 5 inches I think.
I have never designed anything that was meant to be printed out at a specific size.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 17, 2007, 08:08 PM NHFT
I sent a JPEG and the Photoshop file your way.
Let me know if it doesn't work properly.
I have never e-mailed a .psd file before and I'm not certain if it will work.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 09:15 PM NHFT
windows and the gimp cannot open either file I downloaded ... might be one of those download snafus
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on October 18, 2007, 12:04 AM NHFT
Good job Puke.   8) 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: penguins4me on October 18, 2007, 07:04 AM NHFT
Regarding:
Quote from: Russell Kanning on October 17, 2007, 09:15 PM NHFT
windows and the gimp cannot open either file I downloaded ... might be one of those download snafus

Puke, would it be possible to use Photoshop to save the file in a non-destructive compressed (or not) format - I'm thinking one of those odd formats no one ever seems to use, such as TIFF or maybe even BMP. That way Russell could open it with the GIMP, too.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: error on October 18, 2007, 01:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: penguins4me on October 18, 2007, 07:04 AM NHFT
Puke, would it be possible to use Photoshop to save the file in a non-destructive compressed (or not) format - I'm thinking one of those odd formats no one ever seems to use, such as TIFF or maybe even BMP. That way Russell could open it with the GIMP, too.

You mean like PNG?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on October 18, 2007, 02:47 PM NHFT
I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I use an Apple?

I'm not very familiar with different file types so I might be screwing up on my end. 
But I can and will try to save it as a PNG.

Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: elf on December 14, 2007, 12:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on October 18, 2007, 02:47 PM NHFT
I wonder if it has to do with the fact that I use an Apple?

I'm not very familiar with different file types so I might be screwing up on my end. 
But I can and will try to save it as a PNG.



Mac OS and Windows aren't compatible, Puke.  I want one of those Shire licenses. 
Will pay whatever.   I'd rather support the shire folk than the robber barons at the DMV. 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on December 14, 2007, 12:12 PM NHFT
I think I would like to jump on that wagon too, and get me an Id from the puke man.  Will pay of course.  I'll have to have a nice picture taken of me holding a sign saying something about bad law, and that they should be disobeyed.  Maybe one of these sundays.  If you are still doing them, and are not too expensive. 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Kat Kanning on December 14, 2007, 12:15 PM NHFT
Puke made the file for Russell, and we printed it and laminated it ourselves.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on December 14, 2007, 12:39 PM NHFT
Maybe I can get Laurens signature on the back affirming that I can in fact drive in a safe manner.   ;D  Of course she will have to actually observe me driving. 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on December 14, 2007, 03:23 PM NHFT
I love my new license ... it is a conversation piece .... it might be a good luck charm too ... no cops have asked to see it yet ... only friends. :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on December 14, 2007, 03:41 PM NHFT
I forgot to ask to see the real one last time we were in person.  :duh: Maybe next time.

If you want a DL from me (File only I don't have a laminator or the like.) send me a PM with a picture (The bigger the better.) and what you want on the DL.

Even better would be to send me an e-mail from the link on this page - http://web.mac.com/jschmill/iWeb/Welcome/About%20Me.html (http://web.mac.com/jschmill/iWeb/Welcome/About%20Me.html)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on December 14, 2007, 04:10 PM NHFT
we made mine about the right size and used one of those 3x5 sized laminator pockets from walmart
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on December 14, 2007, 04:13 PM NHFT
I should design a back also.
That's something I can do with my X'mas time off.  :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on March 15, 2008, 06:32 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 15, 2008, 08:09 AM NHFT
We buy little self laminating pouches from walmart for a couple bucks, if that helps.
Yes. 
Does it require a laminator? 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: KBCraig on March 15, 2008, 06:45 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on March 15, 2008, 06:32 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 15, 2008, 08:09 AM NHFT
We buy little self laminating pouches from walmart for a couple bucks, if that helps.
Yes. 
Does it require a laminator? 

I think that "self laminating" implies that they don't.  ;)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 16, 2008, 08:34 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on March 15, 2008, 06:45 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on March 15, 2008, 06:32 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 15, 2008, 08:09 AM NHFT
We buy little self laminating pouches from walmart for a couple bucks, if that helps.
Yes. 
Does it require a laminator? 

I think that "self laminating" implies that they don't.  ;)


Yes, that is what self-laminating means  ;D
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:25 PM NHFT
Who has a good quote to put on the back?

Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:32 PM NHFT
I think this should work.

Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: KBCraig on March 16, 2008, 01:50 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:25 PM NHFT
Who has a good quote to put on the back?

Take my love, take my land
Take me where I cannot stand
I don't care, I'm still free
You can't take the sky from me
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2008, 03:05 PM NHFT
most excellent

I was there when the photo was taken .... he didn't even have to stand in line.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2008, 03:28 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:25 PM NHFT
Who has a good quote to put on the back?
self laminated
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Pat K on March 16, 2008, 03:40 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:25 PM NHFT
Who has a good quote to put on the back?



If your close enough to read this
you are probably violating my rights.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 16, 2008, 05:02 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2008, 03:28 PM NHFT
self laminated
;D

Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2008, 05:22 PM NHFT
how many forms of ID do you have to show to get a shire DL?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 16, 2008, 08:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2008, 05:22 PM NHFT
how many forms of ID do you have to show to get a shire DL?

37
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2008, 09:47 PM NHFT
heah haw ... I am grandfathered in already
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Caleb on March 16, 2008, 09:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:32 PM NHFT
I think this should work.

Wow!  Dave's pic there, he's all business. Don't mess with him!  :)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on March 17, 2008, 06:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on March 16, 2008, 12:32 PM NHFT
I think this should work.


Love it.  The Heinlein quote is muchos greatos.  My psuedospanish.   ;)
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 17, 2008, 02:51 PM NHFT
What I would like to have on the back is some sort of message that clearly and concisely gives an explanation of the ID card.

I thought the quote works alright, but it could be better.

I also need to put on there somewhere that the ID card is in no way affiliated with any violent government gangs.
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on March 17, 2008, 03:22 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on March 17, 2008, 02:51 PM NHFT
What I would like to have on the back is some sort of message that clearly and concisely gives an explanation of the ID card.

I thought the quote works alright, but it could be better.

I also need to put on there somewhere that the ID card is in no way affiliated with any violent government gangs.
I had not thought of that, but that is rather important.  It may be useful to make that addition.  I can always make another one.  The one I made from your handi work is very nice. 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 17, 2008, 04:21 PM NHFT
How about...

Quote- This is a privately issued ID/Driving Certificate.
- Government had no process in it's creation.
- Voluntary interactions among adults is the path to true freedom.

Come on! All you smart bastards out there and you can't come up with 20 words to put on the back of this thing.  :pout:
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Caleb on March 17, 2008, 04:31 PM NHFT
I thought Pat K's was perfect. Short and sweet. Perfection can't be improved on. why try?
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 17, 2008, 07:24 PM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on March 17, 2008, 04:31 PM NHFT
I thought Pat K's was perfect. Short and sweet. Perfection can't be improved on. why try?

That doesn't explain anything to the people. I want normals to see this thing as well.

Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: David on March 19, 2008, 10:58 AM NHFT
The Heinlen quote was great.  Utter disrespect for the blind worship of laws, my stance on them. 
Title: Re: I need a Shire drivers license
Post by: Puke on March 19, 2008, 04:23 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on March 19, 2008, 10:58 AM NHFT
The Heinlen quote was great.  Utter disrespect for the blind worship of laws, my stance on them. 

It is good. It could be taken as all property and rules should be ignored though.
I think I'll add the word "government" in there. 

"I am free, no matter what [government] rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do."