I figured it would be good to start a thread where folk can discuss freedom activism in this area because there doesn't seem to be one already. *IS* there any going on? All I seem to hear and see is from Keene, Concord and Manchester areas.
Please, I beg somebody, get a zillion FTL flyers all over Dartmouth college. That place is a breeding ground of Socialists that need to be .... <darth>Turned</darth>
Quote from: d_goddard on October 25, 2007, 12:11 PM NHFT
Please, I beg somebody, get a zillion FTL flyers all over Dartmouth college. That place is a breeding ground of Socialists that need to be .... <darth>Turned</darth>
That, and NHLA flyers too.
NHLA tri-folds (http://nhliberty.org/files/NHLA%20Trifold%20Brochure.pdf) couldn't hurt, I suppose, but:
1) they only "work" for people who are already basically libertarian, and
2) Dartmouth kids generally need deprogramming from the Socialism they've been hoodwinked on
FTL is excellent at #2
Then there are these great babies.. (http://www.theadvocates.org/DL-Front-3.jpg)
+1 kickass
I took some copies of the Keene Free Press to Dartmouth last year and they got taken within a day... I agree though, FTL fliers are a good idea.
At least the graduate students there seem to be receptive to freedom-oriented ideas. Ron Paul came to give a talk about health care at the med school and it was very well attended by med students, grad students, and those from the engineering and business schools. I saw two videographers but so far I unfortunately haven't found it on YouTube. Granted they also had some hacks from the Hillary and Obama campaigns talking about health care policies too - but I think those drew much smaller crowds.
Yea, you're right though Porcupine - this area is sadly lacking in the civil disobedience area.
Maybe we can brainstorm in person at the next Dartmouth Area monthly meeting.
Oh, if you tell me where I should take them, I'll deliver papers to Dartmouth. It always has ads for FTL.
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on October 25, 2007, 05:16 PM NHFT
At least the graduate students there seem to be receptive to freedom-oriented ideas. Ron Paul came to give a talk about health care at the med school and it was very well attended by med students, grad students, and those from the engineering and business schools. I saw two videographers but so far I unfortunately haven't found it on YouTube. Granted they also had some hacks from the Hillary and Obama campaigns talking about health care policies too - but I think those drew much smaller crowds.
This is an article about it in The Dartmouth Review. http://dartreview.com/archives/2007/10/14/ron_paul_md_speaks_on_health_care.php
Fantastic article. Not negative or sarcastic at all. Thanks for posting it. I'm hoping more Porcs are moving to the Lebanon area, so we get some activism and energy moving up there..especially with the college.
I heard that some people just moved to Croydon.
There is a Ron Paul meetup in that area and those people 'think like us'.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on October 26, 2007, 09:39 AM NHFT
Oh, if you tell me where I should take them, I'll deliver papers to Dartmouth. It always has ads for FTL.
Hi Kat,
Sorry for the long lag... next Dartmouth Area Meeting I will bring a map of Dartmouth's campus and show you the best spots to deliver papers. That would be awesome! I think there are definitely more freedom-friendly folks at Dartmouth than one might expect. :)
And totally off-topic, Lauren is free, yay!! :jailbird:
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on November 08, 2007, 06:43 AM NHFT
And totally off-topic, Lauren is free, yay!! :jailbird:
Thats ALWAYS on topic! :V_mask_50:
Quote from: Porcupine_in_MA on October 25, 2007, 11:35 AM NHFT
I figured it would be good to start a thread where folk can discuss freedom activism in this area because there doesn't seem to be one already. *IS* there any going on? All I seem to hear and see is from Keene, Concord and Manchester areas.
Ever heard of Ed and Elaine Brown from Plainfield, NH? ;)
Granted it's pretty much over now but I'd say that was some pretty serious civil disobedience.
Quote from: Lex Berezhny on November 08, 2007, 09:49 AM NHFT
Ever heard of Ed and Elaine Brown from Plainfield, NH? ;)
Granted it's pretty much over now but I'd say that was some pretty serious civil disobedience.
Yeah, you know I meant besides that.. ;)
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on November 08, 2007, 06:43 AM NHFTHi Kat,
Sorry for the long lag... next Dartmouth Area Meeting I will bring a map of Dartmouth's campus and show you the best spots to deliver papers.
we also like the idea of the new name at the college campuses
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 08, 2007, 11:46 AM NHFT
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on November 08, 2007, 06:43 AM NHFTHi Kat,
Sorry for the long lag... next Dartmouth Area Meeting I will bring a map of Dartmouth's campus and show you the best spots to deliver papers.
we also like the idea of the new name at the college campuses
There's a new name?
Grafton Free Press?
I'm so out of the loop.
yes .... you gotta dump this school stuff and keep up with us crazies ;)
New Hampshire Underground will be the name in February. That should appeal to college kids outside of Keene more than we currently do. :)
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 10, 2007, 07:34 AM NHFT
yes .... you gotta dump this school stuff and keep up with us crazies ;)
New Hampshire Underground will be the name in February. That should appeal to college kids outside of Keene more than we currently do. :)
Oh yea!! I like that name.
Oh man, wait till the next time we see each other... you will get a kick out of hearing about my psychiatry class.
Sounds fun, Miz Belle :)
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 10, 2007, 07:34 AM NHFT
yes .... you gotta dump this school stuff and keep up with us crazies ;)
New Hampshire Underground will be the name in February. That should appeal to college kids outside of Keene more than we currently do. :)
I agree with Liberty Belle, good choice for a name and it should have an big-time appeal to college kids with the word "underground" in there. Hey, Liberty Belle are there any libertarian groups active at Dartmouth?
Quote from: Kat Kanning on November 10, 2007, 07:50 AM NHFT
Sounds fun, Miz Belle :)
Oh yea... I'm certainly looking forward to it. :D
We could even take a field trip to Dartmouth after the meeting and I could show you the best NH Underground spots!
Quote from: Porcupine_in_MA on November 10, 2007, 10:39 AM NHFT
Hey, Liberty Belle are there any libertarian groups active at Dartmouth?
I don't know of any, Porcupine. However I am a med student and not an undergrad, so it's possible that there is some kind of undergrad group and I just don't know about it. There are certainly none in the med school or grad school. I do monitor some of the undergrad bulletins (including college R's and D's) and I've never seen anything about libertarians :-(. Ron Paul did come and talk to the college R's though.
I bet if Telomerase gets a job at Dartmouth we could start a grad student libertarian/free stater group of some kind.
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on November 11, 2007, 05:35 AM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on November 10, 2007, 07:50 AM NHFT
Sounds fun, Miz Belle :)
Oh yea... I'm certainly looking forward to it. :D
We could even take a field trip to Dartmouth after the meeting and I could show you the best NH Underground spots!
I really like that idea. We do need to know where to put the papers. We are also thinking that Kira will start taking a class there and we need to check out museums and such if they have them. :)
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on November 11, 2007, 05:42 AM NHFT
I bet if Telomerase gets a job at Dartmouth we could start a grad student libertarian/free stater group of some kind.
he will be working there in a couple of weeks
That's dartmouth medical center.
Quote from: Dreepa on November 04, 2007, 08:08 PM NHFT
I heard that some people just moved to Croydon.
There is a Ron Paul meetup in that area and those people 'think like us'.
CROYDON who else moved to CROYDON? Love Ron Paul but disagree on his foreign policies and foreign policy is important to me. If he would change his foreign policy stance I could support him. I agree with him on everything else.
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 11, 2007, 07:53 AM NHFT
I really like that idea. We do need to know where to put the papers. We are also thinking that Kira will start taking a class there and we need to check out museums and such if they have them. :)
There are museums galore... Check these out:
http://hoodmuseum.dartmouth.edu/
http://hop.dartmouth.edu/
http://www.montshire.org/
Class at Dartmouth sounds awesome... lucky you, Kira!
Quote from: Kat Kanning on November 11, 2007, 07:56 AM NHFT
That's dartmouth medical center.
Good to know. I spend a fair amount of time at the hospital too. Hopefully I'll be seeing you around, Telomerase.
QuoteI spend a fair amount of time at the hospital too. Hopefully I'll be seeing you around, Telomerase.
I should be starting on Dec. 4th. I'll email you if I survive the trip (I'm driving through both Cleveland and Buffalo). Then I may begin to assist you in your missionary work among the overprivileged youth gangs ;D
lol
Quote from: Kat Kanning on October 26, 2007, 09:39 AM NHFT
Oh, if you tell me where I should take them, I'll deliver papers to Dartmouth. It always has ads for FTL.
I took a stack of papers to what I took to be the Student Union (Collins I think it was). It didn't seem like the best place. Maybe I should have just left a few around all the tables.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on November 27, 2007, 12:14 PM NHFT
I took a stack of papers to what I took to be the Student Union (Collins I think it was). It didn't seem like the best place. Maybe I should have just left a few around all the tables.
Collis is a pretty good place to leave papers. Another good place might be the libraries. There are drop boxes for other papers (Dartmouth student papers, the Valley News) there. If you approach the libraries and a receptionist is in view, go in and say that you publish an underground newspaper and ask if you can leave some copies for students to take if they would like. I'm sure they would not have a problem with that. It's always good to keep someone appraised about what you are doing so that they don't do something unwarranted like call campus security.
Anyway, Kat, would you still be interested in taking a little tour of Dartmouth campus and downtown Hanover on Sat. after lunch? We can strategize about the best places to leave papers.
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on November 29, 2007, 04:28 AM NHFTI'm sure they would not have a problem with that. It's always good to keep someone appraised about what you are doing so that they don't do something unwarranted like call campus security.
Anyway, Kat, would you still be interested in taking a little tour of Dartmouth campus and downtown Hanover on Sat. after lunch? We can strategize about the best places to leave papers.
Both Keene State and Franklin Pierce have been cool with our papers.
Touring would be perfect. People could tag along and check things out. :)
So, I just got a piece of mail that said Lebanon wants to build a new junior hs... at the expense of every homeowner here. I feel like it's inevitable that every city employee and PTA mom is going to come out and make sure this gets voted in. Even the flier was an advertisement to come out and vote *for* the school, sent by the city of course.
Anybody who lives in Leb want to brainstorm some activism-type ideas that we could use to fight against this? I'm definitely still too scared to withold my property taxes, but before long it will be tough to afford them. :-\
Move to Grafton, or, at least consider buying property and eventually settling here. It is not ideal, taxwise, but, it is more manageable as far as changing the government than Lebanon will ever be.
I see your point. But I just bought a house in Lebanon, so I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
Got ya
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on February 01, 2008, 07:28 AM NHFT
Move to Grafton, or, at least consider buying property and eventually settling here. It is not ideal, taxwise, but, it is more manageable as far as changing the government than Lebanon will ever be.
Are the Grafton locals, traditional Yankees? E.g. Stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours? I know because I am one and come from a long line of them...where I moved to in Exeter its too big-city nosey, and big government for my taste, for the most part. I'm guessing since Grafton is small, than thats the case. I like what I've seen so far of it, one store...blink or you'll miss it...reminds me of the part of Mass I'm from which is the western end, which is all woods and farms mostly.
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on February 01, 2008, 08:35 AM NHFT
I see your point. But I just bought a house in Lebanon, so I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
Congratulations. Do you own it, or does the bank?
Quote from: Black Sam Rackham on February 25, 2008, 11:42 PM NHFT
Congratulations. Do you own it, or does the bank?
Thanks, Sam.
Why do you ask? Do you have a civil disobedience idea?
Quote from: Porcupine_in_NH on February 25, 2008, 10:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on February 01, 2008, 07:28 AM NHFT
Move to Grafton, or, at least consider buying property and eventually settling here. It is not ideal, taxwise, but, it is more manageable as far as changing the government than Lebanon will ever be.
Are the Grafton locals, traditional Yankees? E.g. Stay out of my business and I'll stay out of yours? I know because I am one and come from a long line of them...where I moved to in Exeter its too big-city nosey, and big government for my taste, for the most part. I'm guessing since Grafton is small, than thats the case. I like what I've seen so far of it, one store...blink or you'll miss it...reminds me of the part of Mass I'm from which is the western end, which is all woods and farms mostly.
Mostly old Yankee types, some statists.
Flee to the hills to avoid the nosy-nellies.
Quote from: Black Sam Rackham on February 25, 2008, 11:42 PM NHFT
Quote from: the_liberty_belle on February 01, 2008, 08:35 AM NHFT
I see your point. But I just bought a house in Lebanon, so I'm not going anywhere anytime soon.
Congratulations. Do you own it, or does the bank?
or does the government?
They want about 3% rent payment every year. :(
Good point, Russell. Sadly, that is true.
New Hampshire could use more unincorporated areas. I wonder, how do you dissolve a town?
I sure some guys will eventually try it in Grafton. :)
You forgot the first two rules! :P
Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 27, 2008, 09:22 AM NHFT
I sure some guys will eventually try it in Grafton. :)
I'd be glad to help out with that...actually glad is an understatement.