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Title: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: picaro on February 14, 2008, 04:39 PM NHFT
So far, I've found Honeyville Grain to offer the best price (after $4.50 flat-rate shipping):

http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=273
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: KJM on February 15, 2008, 03:20 AM NHFT
Walton Feed (http://waltonfeed.com/cart/all.html#8) has 50 lb bags for $15.00, although I haven't looked into how much their shipping costs are.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: ny2nh on February 15, 2008, 06:56 AM NHFT
This reminded me....I noticed the other day that Market Basket has a whole selection of gluten-free flour-type products as well as a selection of different grains.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Raineyrocks on February 15, 2008, 09:04 AM NHFT
Isn't this the stuff that is used to sprout and make wheat grass out of?
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: picaro on February 15, 2008, 11:02 AM NHFT
You can grow wheatgrass from wheat berries... I'd like to try that too.   Wheat berries can also be ground into delicious flour.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: picaro on February 15, 2008, 11:07 AM NHFT
Quote from: KJM on February 15, 2008, 03:20 AM NHFT
Walton Feed (http://waltonfeed.com/cart/all.html#8) has 50 lb bags for $15.00, although I haven't looked into how much their shipping costs are.

Aye,  I've seen shipping fees approach $40 for 50 lbs elsewhere.   Dada's list mentions wheat at Whole Foods for half the price (~50c)....  buying there would require a trek to Mass.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: jaqeboy on February 15, 2008, 05:42 PM NHFT
There's a Whole Foods store (http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/stores/bedford/index.html) in Bedford, just 25.9 miles from downtown Nashua (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=142+Main+St,+Nashua,+NH+03060&daddr=170+Great+Road,+Bedford,+Massachusetts&sll=42.626745,-71.376065&sspn=0.506226,0.933838&ie=UTF8&ll=42.624865,-71.358948&spn=0.506242,0.933838&z=10), but that might involve Mass. sales tax. Their pitch:

QuoteWhole Foods Market Bedford is 40,000 square feet to experience! We are the largest store in the state of Massachusetts offering a variety of natural, organic and specialty foods. Our spacious parking lot is just the beginning to what treasures you will find here. Upon entering our store, we will entice all of your senses from our colorful fresh fruits and vegetables to our new hot bar offering meals that fill you up and leave you feeling good. Our team members are knowledgeable and are willing to help whether you are looking for something special or should just want a taste.

Has anyone else signed up for the United natural foods (http://www.unitedbuyingclubs.com/) coops? They send out a list of existing buying clubs in the state when you request the catalog. I've bought from them before - good stuff and they deliver to your buying club location, where individual members can pick up.

Their January 2008 issue of Buying Club News (basically their updated price list) shows item #225029, 50#, Wheatberries, Organically-Grown, Hard Red Winter @$30.12, available at Chesterfield, NH warehouse.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: dalebert on February 15, 2008, 06:59 PM NHFT
I have a mill and I used to make bread all the time from milled dried wheat. I could use a good (and cheap) source for this.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: kola on February 15, 2008, 08:40 PM NHFT
Say no to GMO

Ask for organic.

Kola
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 16, 2008, 04:37 AM NHFT
Quote from: kola on February 15, 2008, 08:40 PM NHFT
Say no to GMO

Ask for organic.

Kola

Why preach at everyone?  How about personal responsibility?
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on February 16, 2008, 08:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on February 15, 2008, 06:59 PM NHFT
I have a mill and I used to make bread all the time from milled dried wheat. I could use a good (and cheap) source for this.


http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=12788.0
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Ron Helwig on February 17, 2008, 02:21 PM NHFT
I would love to try some of this. Are we talking about a bulk buy that I can be a small part of?

Jaqeboy has been making some awesome bread and hamburger buns, and I'll bet this would be good additions to his recipes.

I'd also like to try that sprouting stuff that Ridley talks about.

I do need a grinder (I'll probably get the attachment for my Kitchen Aid).
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Raineyrocks on February 17, 2008, 09:20 PM NHFT
Quote from: picaro on February 15, 2008, 11:02 AM NHFT
You can grow wheatgrass from wheat berries... I'd like to try that too.   Wheat berries can also be ground into delicious flour.

I wonder if I have the right kind of wheat berries for sprouting, I have to clean my fridge and see what kind I bought.  Ha, I can't see me grinding berries into flour, I hate cooking.

The last 3 dinners I made came out so crappy.  I said, "This sucks", I always admit when my cooking stinks, it doesn't bother me, everybody agreed too. :P   

My son came to visit and he wanted me to make sweet & sour chicken, well he was expecting breaded chicken with the sauce over them.  I took strips of chicken and poured bottled sweet & sour sauce over them, put it in the slow cooker and then cut the chicken strips into small pieces.  The sauce came out watery because I kept adding water to the slow cooker.  Anyways I got a kick out of him actually thinking I was going to make battered chicken.  I don't know how to batter anything, it always falls off.

I remember when I was making some kind of apple thing and the recipe said to core the apple well after I figured out what that meant I did it and the core hit me right in the eyeball because I was pointing it the wrong way.  Alright I'll shut up now and go see what other thread I can ramble on! :D
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on February 18, 2008, 08:04 AM NHFT
I've had luck with S&S chicken, but, its a pain in the ass to make.  Order it from the Chinese guy!  The slow cooker is for putting a hunk of meat and some veggies into in the morning and eating them later in the day.  Stop watering down sauces! I'll send you some bullet proof recipes. 
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Raineyrocks on February 18, 2008, 01:28 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd  Danforth on February 18, 2008, 08:04 AM NHFT
I've had luck with S&S chicken, but, its a pain in the ass to make.  Order it from the Chinese guy!  The slow cooker is for putting a hunk of meat and some veggies into in the morning and eating them later in the day.  Stop watering down sauces! I'll send you some bullet proof recipes. 


Thanks Lloyd, I got the recipes, printed them and put them on the fridge for me to try to make!

I just can't stand breading and battering things.  I was paranoid the sauce in the slow cooker would burn up and start a fire because I was going out and left it on so that's why I added the water.  I even burnt hard boiled eggs one time! ::)
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: picaro on February 19, 2008, 12:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on February 15, 2008, 06:59 PM NHFT
I have a mill and I used to make bread all the time from milled dried wheat.

Which mill do you use?   How do you like it?  I'm considering the expense of a Wolfgang Flour Mill (http://www.wolfgangmill.com/index.asp)... perhaps I'll find a used one.

Also, I made a Struan loaf (http://www.thefreshloaf.com/recipes/struan) for the first time yesterday.   

(http://www.thefreshloaf.com/up/20050522struansliced1.jpg)

It is worth the extra trouble tracking down the ingredients.   (I made large batches of polenta and brown rice beforehand, measured and froze the excess.)

Buttermilk isn't always on hand.   You can substitute either the dry stuff or use the "tablespoon of lemon juice in a cup of milk" trick.

Substituting 1 cup of bread flour for whole wheat flour worked out well too.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: mappchik on February 19, 2008, 12:33 PM NHFT
Quote from: picaro on February 19, 2008, 12:10 PM NHFT
Which mill do you use?   How do you like it?  I'm considering the expense of a Wolfgang Flour Mill (http://www.wolfgangmill.com/index.asp)... perhaps I'll find a used one.

Also, I made a Struan loaf (http://www.thefreshloaf.com/recipes/struan) for the first time yesterday.   

Checked out the Wolfgang Flour Mill. Looks wonderful, but - Ouch!$! I think I'll keep buying bulk flour from the farmers market.
The Struan Loaf recipe is going up on my fridge for my weekend baking.  :) Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: dalebert on February 19, 2008, 04:06 PM NHFT
I'll check it when I get home. Can't remember right now. How does that mill you linked not get flour EVERYWHERE? It looks like it just spits it out into a bowl. That's nuts. Mine connects to the container with a plastic tube.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 02, 2008, 06:24 AM NHFT
If someone's buying a bunch of wheat, I'd go in on some.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: dalebert on March 02, 2008, 02:25 PM NHFT
Mine's called a Wonder Mill. I have a five gallon air-tight drum for storing wheat. I'll go in on some too.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 23, 2008, 10:44 PM NHFT
Whole foods sells wheat right now at woburn mass for 63 cents a pound if you buy fifty pounds or more.

that's up from 55 cents in early 2007... a price which had remained constant as far back as 2002.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 23, 2008, 10:45 PM NHFT
the main thing i don't know... is it practical to buy that walton feed stuff and eat it?   I understand that is not human grade.  I dont' know the diff between human grade and animal grade.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Dave Ridley on April 03, 2008, 05:02 PM NHFT
the price at the bedford MA  whole foods market jack mentioned...should be the same.  there's no sales tax.

the one in boston charges about 66 cents a pound and may be the one where i have to buy since i'm never as near the others as I sometimes am to this one.
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: jaqeboy on April 03, 2008, 08:57 PM NHFT
United Natural Foods, April '08 catalog:

50# Bag, Prod.No. 225029, Wheatberries, OG, HD/RD WNTR, $36.03, or $0.72/#, page 20
[OG = organically grown]

You may (verbally or by PM or email) order from me before noon tomorrow (Friday) and pick it up in Deerfield next Friday (or after). Payment must be made to me sometime between now and then - I have to settle up with the co-op at the Friday pickup.

Let me know if there are any other bulk or natural food items you need and I'll give you prices. Call me up til midnite tonight or after 9AM tomorrow (Friday) to work out the details. The catalog has 210 pages of items in fine print, so if you want something, they probably have it. I order every 4 weeks so far and we're on deadline for this order.

I can bring the catalog to the MVP meeting this Saturday to show anyone interested, but it'll be too late to order on this cycle then.

Jack
tel: 233-1058
email: jaqeboy@ijaq.net
Title: Re: Best Price on Hard Red Winter Wheat?
Post by: Raineyrocks on April 04, 2008, 10:29 AM NHFT
Here's a Nutrimill Wheat Grinder  ( I don't know if that's a good price but it's at emergencyessentials.com   If you need a special code I might have one, they are always emailing me and I can look if anyone is interested.) :D
$249.99
Reg. $269.99


The Nutrimill offers low temperature grinding to preserve the nutrients in your grains and with its adjustable super-fine to coarse textures, you can grind a wide variety of grains and legumes for all your recipe needs.
This compact grinder has a 20-cup capacity and is an excellent value with its self-cleaning grinding mechanism, matched grain hopper (to avoid spill-overs) and an all-new pre-cracking element in the impact chamber to grind grain put into the hopper before you turn it on, without clogging the mill