Free Minds TV and FreeKeene.com present the Spring 2008 edition of Keene Freedom Fest! Join us for an afternoon of pro-Liberty outreach, socializing, and
gambling!
4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Square in Keene (the small park adjacent to 82 Main St.)
Food and drinks will be available via nearby vendors like Armadillo's Burritos, King's Garden Chinese, and Amicci's Pizza.
The following organizations/people are confirmed to be attending the event:
- Free Minds TV
- FreeKeene.com's Bloggers
- Keene Eye on the News' Mark Edgington
- NH Free Press
- NH Liberty Alliance
- NH Common Sense
- Alternatives Expo
The following liberty oriented groups are being approached to be included in the event:
Liberty Scholarship Fund, Marijuana Policy Project, Fully Informed Jury Association
These groups are unavailable this time: Students for Sensible Drug Policy, Law Enforcement against Prohibition, Keene Citizens Government Review
Can you think of any other organizations that should be invited?
Unlike last year, this time the event will not be requesting permission from the government people. From what I understand, as long as we are not obstructing people's ability to move through the park, no one should be arrested. Those who are gambling will obviously be at risk, however.
FYI: We do have four feet of table space available for those who do not have their own table space.
(NHLA, NHCS, AltEx)
I'm thinking that instead of doing Operation Politically Homeless this time I'm going to try striking the root by using Marc Stevens' "World's Shortest Political Quiz":
"Should a service or product be provided at the threat of violence?"
I am thinking about having a white board with hashmarks to tally how many people answered what way.
I will also have hundreds of these on hand to give away:
http://www.theadvocates.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LS&Product_Code=DL&Category_Code=BOO
If Free Minds TV begins promoting this event immediately, that should help get people to turn out. Once all of the attending organizations are ironed out, I will send a news release out to my Keene media list. I can always call "Talkback" the morning of and get a free plug. Gardner Goldsmith has offered to interview me.
How else can we promote? On Keene State College campus? Is school in session that week?
What can we do to actually draw people? Something fun to tweak peoples interest.
Is there a side thread having to do with the gambling game? Who is organizing that? What game is being played? Do you have or need poker chips, or do you want it to look more "underground" like by having federal money being thrown out onto the table?
Gambling in general is being discussed in the civil dis. section.
Quote from: David on March 03, 2008, 04:05 PM NHFT
What can we do to actually draw people? Something fun to tweak peoples interest.
Strippers
Quote from: David on March 03, 2008, 04:19 PM NHFT
Gambling in general is being discussed in the civil dis. section.
I will go there to talk about it. Seems like they are not discussing specifics. Either they don't think they need to yet, or don't think they need to at all.
I know you had offered to deal cards. Perhaps you should consult with Facilitator to the Icon, as he may be bringing a dice game.
Specifics are hard to come by when asking someone to do something that may get them arrested. :-\
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on March 03, 2008, 04:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on March 03, 2008, 04:05 PM NHFT
What can we do to actually draw people? Something fun to tweak peoples interest.
Strippers
Nah, I was thinking maybe games, food, stuff of that nature. Possibly a fund raiser for the Liberty Scholarship Fund.
I am inviting the Liberty Scholarship Fund, so perhaps you should run a 50/50 raffle, David.
Quote from: David on March 03, 2008, 04:39 PM NHFT
Nah, I was thinking maybe games, food, stuff of that nature. Possibly a fund raiser for the Liberty Scholarship Fund.
Well, we know there will be games (gambling). If someone wants to sell food, that would be fine, however they will be in competition with the nearby food outlets that I mentioned.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 04:00 PM NHFT
If Free Minds TV begins promoting this event immediately, that should help get people to turn out. Once all of the attending organizations are ironed out, I will send a news release out to my Keene media list. I can always call "Talkback" the morning of and get a free plug.
How else can we promote? On Keene State College campus? Is school in session that week?
As far as I know, Keene State College is in session that week. It wouldn't hurt to make flyers for billboards not only at KSC, but also around town.
If anyone has a good idea for a promo to be run on Cheshire TV that couldn't hurt either.
Quote from: TobyFMTV on March 03, 2008, 05:53 PM NHFT
As far as I know, Keene State College is in session that week. It wouldn't hurt to make flyers for billboards not only at KSC, but also around town.
If anyone has a good idea for a promo to be run on Cheshire TV that couldn't hurt either.
Since you are looking for something to be delegated to you, would you like to take charge of the fliers and then perhaps ask Sean to cobble together a quick 15 second promo from last year's footage?
Puke has design experience. Perhaps he would be willing to build the flyer and we could go around and put them up. It would be useful to create a database of possible flyer locations, for future use as well.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 04:48 PM NHFT
I am inviting the Liberty Scholarship Fund, so perhaps you should run a 50/50 raffle, David.
I've got a roll of tickets
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 03:55 PM NHFT
I'm thinking that instead of doing Operation Politically Homeless this time I'm going to try striking the root by using Marc Stevens' "World's Shortest Political Quiz":
"Should a service or product be provided at the barrel of a gun?"
I am thinking about having a white board with hashmarks to tally how many people answered what way.
Or, perhaps I should keep the results private, so as not to influence answers.
QuoteI will also have hundreds of these on hand to give away:
http://www.theadvocates.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LS&Product_Code=DL&Category_Code=BOO
Should there be a special handout for people that say no?
Perhaps we should try to get their name and information and then take their picture? :icon_pirat:
(Only half joking.)
Helium balloons attract people. Especially people with kids -- the have to stick around long enough to get a balloon for their kid. Maybe you get a balloon when you complete the WSPQ?
Quote from: zaphar on March 20, 2008, 12:22 AM NHFT
Since you are looking for something to be delegated to you, would you like to take charge of the fliers and then perhaps ask Sean to cobble together a quick 15 second promo from last year's footage?
Puke has design experience. Perhaps he would be willing to build the flyer and we could go around and put them up. It would be useful to create a database of possible flyer locations, for future use as well.
Would affixing them to parking meters work? I could go scout out some areas this weekend.
P.S. the front of city hall? >:D
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That could be construed as littering.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 03:51 PM NHFT
Can you think of any other organizations that should be invited?
Alternatives Expo - send jack@AltExpo.org any info you have. I'm sure we could get a couple of our minions to table there (we've got to work on our graphics and a flyer, but it's a month away)
I'll try to make it down for this. Sounds fun.
Quote from: jaqeboy on March 20, 2008, 02:18 AM NHFT
Alternatives Expo - send jack@AltExpo.org any info you have. I'm sure we could get a couple of our minions to table there (we've got to work on our graphics and a flyer, but it's a month away)
All the info is in the top post. If you'll have people there, I can provide you with 4 feet of table space. Let me know.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 09:41 AM NHFT
Quote from: jaqeboy on March 20, 2008, 02:18 AM NHFT
Alternatives Expo - send jack@AltExpo.org any info you have. I'm sure we could get a couple of our minions to table there (we've got to work on our graphics and a flyer, but it's a month away)
All the info is in the top post. If you'll have people there, I can provide you with 4 feet of table space. Let me know.
K, count us in - we'll be there! The AltExpo.org site has obsolete info on it now, but will be undergoing progressive updating as time goes on. We'll create a calendar of our events and add the Keene Freedom Fest to it.
Great! I have added you to the list of attendees.
Do we need flyers? If ya'll want me to work something up let me know.
That would be great. I heard that Coconut is going to school at Keene State College, so perhaps he can help distribute them there. Additionally, I believe Toby is in charge of flyering.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 03:51 PM NHFT
That would be great. I heard that Coconut is going to school at Keene State College, so perhaps he can help distribute them there. Additionally, I believe Toby is in charge of flyering.
Can I get specific info that should be on the flyer?
I suppose that it will be printed in B&W. If that's the case I'll hold back the color.
I don't think we can afford color.
Check the top post and go with what you think is appropriate...
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 08:02 PM NHFT
I don't think we can afford color.
Check the top post and go with what you think is appropriate...
Okey dokey.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 08:02 PM NHFT
I don't think we can afford color.
Check the top post and go with what you think is appropriate...
Ian, you
do realize who you just asked to "go with what he thinks is appropriate"?!?!?
(http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/450/sp0876_450.jpeg)
Quote from: d_goddard on March 20, 2008, 08:49 PM NHFT
Ian, you do realize who you just asked to "go with what he thinks is appropriate"?!?!?
Pfft. ::) I wasn't going to make it that big on the flyer! Just the lower half.
Is this the second or the third KFF? I think it's the second, right?
2nd
First draft. Critiques please.
I plan to copy the top half onto the bottom to maximize print space.
Looks good!
Critiques:
Downtown is one word.
Incorrect date. It is 4/19.
Remove "civil disobedience". It should just be "and gambling!"
Fixed.
Perhaps add Saturday to the date, so people don't have to check their calendars.
Also, we plan to do three of these per year so I don't know if "second annual" is correct in that case.
Maybe add each exhibiting group's URL somewhere close to their name (under in small font would work). That way people could still access some resources, even if they don't go.
AltExpo.org for the Alternatives Exposition (or Expo)
OK, added 'Saturday' and changed the annual thing to 'Spring 2008'.
I don't want to put URL's on there. That would be a cluster-fuck of information. It's best to keep it simple.
I've seen some flyers and ad's that are just crammed with text. A person is going to make a decision to look at the flyer in the first couple seconds. It has to be readable at a glance as they walk by. Too much text and the info gets lost in the forest of letters.
I like it. :)
I like that it is half a page. The full page size ends up getting tossed on the ground, often. Something that fits in your pocket is idea.
If you were interested in printing both sides the backside could have the text that you don't want to "busy up" the front with.
We did palm cards once that had info on what to do in a pullover/protect your rights on the reverse and our message on the front. Made it small enough to fit in a pocket and folks would keep it for a reference.
Anyway, nice job Sir Puke. 8)
Elizabeth just noticed that attendees is misspelled. :)
Toby, if you want to get those printed up at Staples, FreeKeene will cover the cost.
Alright, I think all the spelling errors are fixed.
I have a PDF for whoever is printing it out.
I tried a test print on my printer, but it's a piece of junk. Hopefully the print shops have better printers.
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on March 23, 2008, 09:08 AM NHFT
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Elizabeth just noticed that attendees is misspelled. :)
That should probably be exhibitors instead of attendees.
Quote from: jaqeboy on March 23, 2008, 11:11 PM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on March 23, 2008, 09:08 AM NHFT
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Elizabeth just noticed that attendees is misspelled. :)
That should probably be exhibitors instead of attendees.
I agree
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That is a very nice flyer, Puke! It is eyecatching, uncluttered, and professional... very well done :)
OK, I changed it to 'exhibitors' and I spell checked it.
If you have any other good ideas give them to me now or forever STFU. :P
Quote from: Puke on March 24, 2008, 02:59 PM NHFT
If you have any other good ideas give them to me now or forever STFU. :P
I think we should build a libertarian colony on the moon and live there in peace and bliss.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 07:31 AM NHFT
I think we should build a libertarian colony on the moon and live there in peace and bliss.
That will require on hell of a flyer!
Personally I would rather it say "games" than "gambling." Maybe it's me, but I'm trying to act like what we're doing should be completely, unquestionably free from regulation, and the word "gambling" has a bit of negative ring to it in society. It isn't a big deal though. Thoughts?
I don't know what's more likely to attract people. When people see "gambling", I think they will show up expecting to be betting lots of money on wheel spins or something. "Games" means that there will be games to play, and if a penny changes hands, it's part of the game.
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 06:21 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
Issues moonular mission statement.
Decries tactics of dark side of the moon activists.
"Gaming" — halfway between games and gambling, is technically correct, but obscure enough that people might not immediately think it means gambling.
Quote from: Pat K on March 25, 2008, 06:27 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 06:21 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
Issues moonular mission statement.
Decries tactics of dark side of the moon activists.
The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress... ? :D
Someone asked on FTL if we could live broadcast this event. It's not impossible. Downtown Keene is supplied with wireless internet. It might be able to reach to railroad square. If that's the case, all you need is a portable computer and a camera, and maybe power to keep it running past battery life. Should I look into this? I don't mind using my equipment, which could probably broadcast for about 90 minutes if the connection was strong enough before batteries ran out. As long as someone was there to pick it up for me if I was for some reason unable to return home.
If you want to do so, I doubt there will be enough viewers to justify it. There also won't be much of interest to broadcast. Makes more sense to tape some footage and edit a package for FMTV / Youtube.
85% chance that Capitol Access (http://nhcaptv.com) will be there as well
Quote from: Coconut on March 31, 2008, 05:03 PM NHFT
Someone asked on FTL if we could live broadcast this event. It's not impossible. Downtown Keene is supplied with wireless internet. It might be able to reach to railroad square. If that's the case, all you need is a portable computer and a camera, and maybe power to keep it running past battery life. Should I look into this? I don't mind using my equipment, which could probably broadcast for about 90 minutes if the connection was strong enough before batteries ran out. As long as someone was there to pick it up for me if I was for some reason unable to return home.
Railroad Square in Keene has both wireless access, and electrical outlets -- so you wouldn't need to rely on a battery.
I like the idea of a live broadcast, especially with the potential for a civdis arrest(s) happening... if we plan to live broadcast the event, and spread the word in advance, we could greatly increase our audience.
Ought to get Ridley Report to announce it in advance and report on it on the day, too. Maybe pay for an ad on his reports?
Quote from: srqrebel on April 01, 2008, 10:14 AM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on March 31, 2008, 05:03 PM NHFT
Someone asked on FTL if we could live broadcast this event. It's not impossible. Downtown Keene is supplied with wireless internet. It might be able to reach to railroad square. If that's the case, all you need is a portable computer and a camera, and maybe power to keep it running past battery life. Should I look into this? I don't mind using my equipment, which could probably broadcast for about 90 minutes if the connection was strong enough before batteries ran out. As long as someone was there to pick it up for me if I was for some reason unable to return home.
Railroad Square in Keene has both wireless access, and electrical outlets -- so you wouldn't need to rely on a battery.
I once heard that while there's outlets, the power isn't turned on unless someone has signed up for an event in the area, which we haven't. I will try to test my setup this weekend, and will post a link in this thread if I feel like a live feed is viable. Maybe we could even have 2 cams, but that's getting a bit overboard. One step at a time coco.
Quote from: Coconut on April 01, 2008, 06:53 PM NHFT
I once heard that while there's outlets, the power isn't turned on unless someone has signed up for an event in the area, which we haven't...
Hmm... I used the outlets a number of times last summer and fall, before the weather turned cold. My laptop battery is so far gone that it only lasts for a minute or so without auxiliary power, and I never had a problem accessing the electricity at Railroad Square.
Tell you what... you plan the live broadcast, and I will bring an alternative power source just to be sure :icon_pirat: 8)
Ian, you understand and appreciate the difference between "argumentation" and "discussion" -- and the importance of avoiding the former if the intent is to win hearts and minds.
I am therefore glad that the gaming will not be intentionally an act of Civ Dis. For the vast majority of the general population -- even those who score in the top quadrant of the Nolan Chart -- if they see the police arresting someone, their first impression is that the person must be doing something "bad"
Civ Dis has its place.
That place is not at a festival intended to introduce people to the freedom-loving community.
Quote from: srqrebel on April 02, 2008, 10:32 AM NHFT
Tell you what... you plan the live broadcast, and I will bring an alternative power source just to be sure :icon_pirat: 8)
While I certainly wouldn't prevent anyone from broadcasting live, I will once again reiterate that I believe that an event where people will primarily be standing around talking with one another will not make for very interesting live broadcast content.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 02, 2008, 05:15 PM NHFT
While I certainly wouldn't prevent anyone from broadcasting live, I will once again reiterate that I believe that an event where people will primarily be standing around talking with one another will not make for very interesting live broadcast content.
People watch some pretty boring things online since Justin.tv came out.
Anyway, I was talking to a few guys I may or may not play poker with each week, and at least one of them says he plans to be there to play for pennies. It's getting down to the time when we should be making sure we have tables and chairs, and decide exactly what is going on. As I have said before, I will come prepared with everything necessary to play a poker game, besides a table unless I need to find one, and all anyone else has to do is come with 2 quarters to buy a roll of pennies.
Can we borrow chairs from the Masonic Hall?
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 02, 2008, 08:03 PM NHFT
Can we borrow chairs from the Masonic Hall?
The same building Cheshire TV is in? The new Masonic Hall is a different building on upper Washington Street I think. But CTV sure has a lot of spare chairs in racks there. I don't know the process of borrowing some. Should I ask Lee, if he is around when I stop by the studio tomorrow?
Yeah, CTV. Please take the initiative and let me know!
Watching video of he event would be like watching a security camera.
http://www.opentopia.com/hiddencam.php?seewhat=newest&country=&showmode=standard&screen=1 (http://www.opentopia.com/hiddencam.php?seewhat=newest&country=&showmode=standard&screen=1)
Puke, is your truck available between 11a and 12p on 4/19?
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 02, 2008, 11:12 PM NHFT
Yeah, CTV. Please take the initiative and let me know!
I spoke with L. Perkins today. He is not authorized to lend those chairs; they belong to the library. A woman at the library named Nancy is in charge of them, but he guessed that there's no reason she would let them be taken out. I don't think we want to go the renting route, since there should be other solutions.
I will keep thinking on it, unless someone else can commit to bringing seating.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 03, 2008, 08:08 AM NHFT
Puke, is your truck available between 11a and 12p on 4/19?
Sure.
I wonder if The Governor "Big Air" champion dummy created by the underground Kinetic Sculpture Team could make an appearance?
(http://www.politicalgraffiti.com/nhfree/images/IMG_8945-Team-Underground.jpg)
Folks get there picture taken with the governor... ;D
have some signs... what kind of fun captions could we have? >:D
That's some frightening shit! :o
He is The Big Air Dumby. ;D
I hear there's going to be a Schnergenberger booth.
Kat mentioned that she would be bringing four folding chairs and I will also be bringing four folding chairs.
I now also have a 10' x 10' canopy.
Folding chairs retrieved and ready :)
Hmm... problem, or opportunity?
http://www.antiochne.edu/news/earthweek08/
Should I contact the organizer and work out some peaceful co-existence? Should we move the day? The location? Just show up anyway?
I'm going to give her a call tomorrow and see what we can work out. Hopefully, this won't turn into a tragedy of the commons...
Wow... big news real late. Good luck on your call, and I'm sure you'll keep us posted.
I'm bringing the 4 folding chairs, but if people have these camp chairs, they'd be good to bring also.
(http://www.hiking-gear-and-equipment-used-for-camping.com/images/camping%20chairs.jpg)
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 15, 2008, 09:08 PM NHFT
Hmm... problem, or opportunity?
http://www.antiochne.edu/news/earthweek08/
I'm with you Ian -- that's a tough call. On the one hand, there would certainly be a ready made audience; otoh, it has a strong potential to make us come off as parasitic (mooching off another event), not to mention disruptive, if arrests are made.
I'm inclined to think this is a case where the potential negativity of the publicity outweighs the publicity itself. Too bad the scheduling conflict wasn't discovered sooner.
Ian, if you still plan on calling the event organizer to work out a deal, may I suggest that you are completely candid with her regarding the planned illegal gambling table as an act of civ dis, along with the possibility of a minor scene arising out of activists being arrested, and the arrests being filmed. That way, there are no surprises -- and if a deal can be arranged with that understanding, the potential for negative publicity is nipped in the bud.
Well I just picked up $8 in rolls of pennies to be prepared for a poker game, or other penny bets. If we're still on...
I spoke with the organizer and she's fine with coexisting. I'm considering going out at 8 a.m. and setting up at that time as that's when they'll be setting up too, then we could start our event a couple hours early...
Quote from: srqrebel on April 16, 2008, 11:24 AM NHFT
not to mention disruptive, if arrests are made.
That would be the government's fault, not ours. We will be peaceful and quiet (no live music or anything), so nothing about our event will be disruptive to theirs.
Could be a great opportunity to explain how the free-market is better than the gov't to the tree-hugger socialist types.
I will also have access to a few more chairs if we need. I hope to come around 10:30 - 11, see if I can cover a picnic table with a poker top. If not, I can come home and get a table. Two non-freestaters have told me they will come and play. Players can buy pennies on the spot, and blinds (for anyone who knows poker) will be .01/.02 No Limit. We can double that later in the day if the situation calls for it, but with each person starting at around 50 cents, 1/2 would be standard.
Should I bring my camera? I'm leaning toward yes, but I'm trying to carry as little as possible on my person. Also, who might be available to hold player's keys and possibly temporarily take care of their cars in a worst case scenario?
Anyone with a truck available early Saturday (8am) to move tables to Railroad Sq.?
Since the LPNH wasn't invited :'( , I'll be meandering at this event, sans table, selling raffle tickets. First prize is your choice of a Beretta Tomcat .32 or a Springfield XD .40! Second prize is whichever gun the first prize winner didn't select! Tickets are $5 each, 3 for $10, or 7 for $20. Note that if you win, you'll need to retrieve your prize yourself from Riley's Gun Shop in Hooksett and comply with whatever legal stuph is applicable.
If looking for me, please note I have cut all my hair off. [superfluous RHPS reference]Goodbye Magenta, hello Columbia. :toocool: [/superfluous RHPS reference] There is no cause for alarm! Remain calm and proceed to purchase raffle tickets in a calm, orderly fashion. 8)
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 16, 2008, 12:37 PM NHFT
Quote from: srqrebel on April 16, 2008, 11:24 AM NHFT
not to mention disruptive, if arrests are made.
That would be the government's fault, not ours. We will be peaceful and quiet (no live music or anything), so nothing about our event will be disruptive to theirs.
Oh I'm with you there, totally. My point was just that it might not appear that way to the public.
I'm glad the organizer is cool with it, and look forward to participating! :broc1: 8)
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 16, 2008, 09:13 PM NHFT
Anyone with a truck available early Saturday (8am) to move tables to Railroad Sq.?
I can be available with my pickup... though you might prefer one with an open bed, if available.
Quote from: Friday on April 17, 2008, 10:16 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited :'(
I did ask for other suggestions. Honestly, I didn't even think of the LP. Do they have any presence in Cheshire County?
You are welcome to have the remaining 4' of table space!
Quote from: Friday on April 17, 2008, 10:16 AM NHFT
If looking for me, please note I have cut all my hair off.
What??? Sandy with no hair?!!! :o :o :o
;D 8)
...or is that just a decoy to mislead the phalanxes of Secret Service agents sure to be lurking in the crowd? :glasses7: :glasses7: :glasses7: :glasses7: ;D :-X
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 06:21 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
http://www.free-luna.com/
Quote from: Friday on April 17, 2008, 10:16 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited :'( , I'll be meandering at this event, sans table, selling raffle tickets. First prize is your choice of a Beretta Tomcat .32 or a Springfield XD .40! Second prize is whichever gun the first prize winner didn't select! Tickets are $5 each, 3 for $10, or 7 for $20. Note that if you win, you'll need to retrieve your prize yourself from Riley's Gun Shop in Hooksett and comply with whatever legal stuph is applicable.
Awesome. I don't know how to use a gun, but I could carry it around unloaded.
Quote from: Friday on April 17, 2008, 10:36 AM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 06:21 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
http://www.free-luna.com/
Hahaha, that's friggin awesome!!
I want a shirt with that on it.Did you design that, Sandy? I'd say you got a moneymaker on your hands. Im willing to bet one could sell at least forty shirts with that design at PorcFest.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 17, 2008, 10:28 AM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on April 17, 2008, 10:16 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited :'(
I did ask for other suggestions. Honestly, I didn't even think of the LP. Do they have any presence in Cheshire County?
You are welcome to have the remaining 4' of table space!
The LPNH does have people running for office in Cheshire County, I believe; not 100% sure.
Thank you for the offer of table space. I'll see if Howard W. wants to come and collect petition signatures; he's definitely got enough literature to fill up 4' of table space.
Quote from: srqrebel on April 17, 2008, 10:44 AM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on April 17, 2008, 10:36 AM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 06:21 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
http://www.free-luna.com/
Hahaha, that's friggin awesome!!
I want a shirt with that on it.
Did you design that, Sandy? I'd say you got a moneymaker on your hands. Im willing to bet one could sell at least forty shirts with that design at PorcFest.
No, the domain is mine, and some guy I don't even know sent me that design. I'll try to remember who it was.
Quote from: Coconut on April 17, 2008, 10:42 AM NHFT
Awesome. I don't know how to use a gun, but I could carry it around unloaded.
It's easy, you point the open end at whatever you want to die and pull the trigger. :P
Quote from: srqrebel on April 17, 2008, 10:21 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 16, 2008, 09:13 PM NHFT
Anyone with a truck available early Saturday (8am) to move tables to Railroad Sq.?
I can be available with my pickup... though you might prefer one with an open bed, if available.
Anyway, back to Freedom Fest discussion.
FMTV Nick has volunteered to help move the 8' tables Saturday morning.
I think we are also going to unofficially start the Fest at 10am in order to coincide with Earth Day's start time. (Meaning I will be there from 10a-3p, and probably earlier than 10.)
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 17, 2008, 05:54 PM NHFT
I think we are also going to unofficially start the Fest at 10am in order to coincide with Earth Day's start time. (Meaning I will be there from 10a-3p, and probably earlier than 10.)
I'll get there when I can, but will not start dealing poker until 12 noon or a bit after.
Quote from: zaphar on April 17, 2008, 11:09 PM NHFT
Alright, I'll be there to help setup. Hmm, if we do this again, a roulette wheel might be a good addition for people who don't know how to play poker 8)
I do believe there will be a dice game that anyone can learn in a few seconds.
Quote from: Puke on April 18, 2008, 05:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: zaphar on April 17, 2008, 11:09 PM NHFT
Alright, I'll be there to help setup. Hmm, if we do this again, a roulette wheel might be a good addition for people who don't know how to play poker 8)
I do believe there will be a dice game that anyone can learn in a few seconds.
Why not just bet on coin flips?
The Fest was mentioned tonight on Keene No-Spin. Not too much. They just made a note that we won't have a permit while the earth day folks do. Rumor is that the police are already aware of what's going on, and they don't care: they don't want conflict. Perfect as far as I'm concerned.
Anyone want to engage in electricity civil disobedience? I was hassled for plugging my computer in downtown.
Quote from: Scott Roth on April 19, 2008, 01:28 AM NHFT
Sounds sad... :(
See the latest page of the Keene Copwatch thread. I explained it there.
I can't wait to hear how this turned out. I'll be tuning into FTL promptly at 7; hopefully someone will bring the topic up at some point.
There was no incident. An officer actually was engaged with Ian in conversation about the "products at the threat of violence." He first said that he agrees that everyone should live their lives how they want without harming anyone, and then called LEAP ridiculous. He said he's against prohibition and that drugs should be illegal (He didn't know what prohibition meant?) Once we clarified he made it perfectly clear that he is against drug legalization.
Anyway, that same cop was at the festival all day. There was a much bigger Earth Day fest going on at the same time. He was most definitely in the area while we played poker. In fact, another man at the park was arrested by him on an outstanding warrant, but the cop didn't even come close to that poker table while the game was going on.
some of the party is still going on at our house ... it might have also continued at other places too :)
Thanx to "Ian and the Keeniacs"... good band name. ;D Ya'll know who you are. :D
It was good to see folks, extra special to the folks that traveled across the state to be there. 8)
The pres. and I enjoyed starting a fire with a bow drill and the hand carved bows were cool, especially cause William is in his Robin Hood faze. :)
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Nice pictures Kat
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=2692&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
This guy who about decked Roger at Tilting for Windmills showed up and was interested in the poker game today. He was wearing the same shirt as the at the tilting at windmills.
I'm glad to not be in jail tonight. Take that gov't assholes. :icon_pirat:
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 19, 2008, 08:17 PM NHFT
This guy who about decked Roger at Tilting for Windmills showed up and was interested in the poker game today.
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.
He asked if Dale's bumper stickers were for donation and I told him $2. He didn't want it then.
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFT
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.
Someone else needs to buy another 10x10' canopy for the gambling table... $60 at Walmart.
Thanks to everyone who came out today! 8)
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 19, 2008, 08:43 PM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFT
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.
Someone else needs to buy another 10x10' canopy for the gambling table... $60 at Walmart.
My issue would be storage space for it probably. We can talk about it if we find a need for another one in the future.
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 19, 2008, 08:17 PM NHFT
This guy who about decked Roger at Tilting for Windmills showed up and was interested in the poker game today.
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.
Like interested in playing.
Quote from: FTL_Ian on April 19, 2008, 08:43 PM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFT
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.
Someone else needs to buy another 10x10' canopy for the gambling table... $60 at Walmart.
I have a good one (not Wal-mart crap) that I'll be taking to Porcfest. I could leave it with someone in NH b/t Porcfest and Burning Porcupine if you are going to do another Freedom Fest b/t the two events.
Care to enlighten us about the location of these NH casinos, Mr. KnowItAll?
Hello Kat. I took it that you were replying to my comment in this thread (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13743.0 ), though I may be wrong. You likely know of this stuff already. I'll post it for those not in the loop.
http://www.granitestatepoker.com/ at http://www.rockinghampark.com/
http://www.hinsdalegreyhound.com/
http://www.seabrookgreyhoundpark.com/
http://www.thelodgeatbelmont.com/
Reasonable people can disagree but I think a place that offers poker, craps, blackjack, roulette, horse betting, dog betting, has restaurants and is owned by a gaming company can be called a casino.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 19, 2008, 06:03 PM NHFT
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3142&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
Forgot to caption this one....
If you go to Keene Railroad Square, be sure to wear a flower in your shirt.
If you're going to Keene Railroad Square
You're gonna meet some gentle people there
For those who come to Keene Railroad Square
Summertime will be a love-in there
In the streets of Keene Railroad Square
Gentle people with flowers in their shirts ;D
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on April 20, 2008, 02:59 PM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?
That would be ideal for the paper.
8)
I thought the flower on Lauren looked cute.
I chickened out on gambling, but congrats on those that didn't.
When the two cops arrested the one guy, I have never seen so many cameras at one time. ;D
We wanted the police to ignore the civ dis, and it worked. When police choose to ignore, rather than arrest, we both win. That is what we want, and it does make their job easier.
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFTI would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned . . .
;D Well, I can see that many of us are quite adapting quickly to the New England weather. ;D
It seems the tradition (and I have spent my life here in New England) is to always complain/bitch about the weather.
Isn't it just a few weeks ago people were wishing for THIS weather? :_eatsnow__by_Conuyaku:
I'm :o shocked :o / saddened that so many folks moving here adapt so quickly to the "bitching."
Who'd've thunk of the umbrella? ::) Some old dude?
"I might be crazy, but I ain't no fool!"
Quote from: John on April 20, 2008, 08:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFTI would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned . . .
;D Well, I can see that many of us are quite adapting quickly to the New England weather. ;D
It seems the tradition (and I have spent my life here in New England) is to always complain/bitch about the weather.
I'm a native, not a mover. I like the hot better than the cold. I just hardly ever put on sunscreen. I'm gonna get cancer :(
Quote from: Coconut on April 20, 2008, 08:25 PM NHFT
I'm a native,
;D Everyone knows Coconuts aren't native to NH. ;)
:_eatsnow__by_Conuyaku: :Bolt: :icon_sunny: :Bolt: :book1: :_storm__by_clairebearer: :blah_by_sarrlas_emotes: :Bolt: :grouphug: :peace: :Bolt: :tent:
I don't think the sun causes cancer. You need vitamin d from the sun.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 07:24 AM NHFT
I don't think the sun causes cancer. You need vitamin d from the sun.
But most everyone says that sunburns increase risk of skin cancer.
It should be obvious doctors don't know their ass from a hole in the ground about cancer.
UV is a mutagen. Sunlight is good for you, however UV can mutate cells. Everything is a balancing act.
You don't need much sun to get it and Vitamin D can be obtained from other sources. Even if you never get cancer, the sun damages and ages your skin. Most people don't realize their skin has taken damage unless they get a painful sunburn, but any amount of tan is the result of some degree of sun damage. Of course, a lot of sun at once resulting in a burn, increases the risk of cancer. That's particularly true if it happens in youth when your skin is still growing. That's one of the highest risk factors for skin cancer- repeated sunburn in your youth. Some people have more melanin in their skin naturally and the damage is slower, but it's true to a varying extent for everyone. Fair-skinned people are particularly vulnerable to it. People always comment about how I look young for my age. I avoid sun exposure and when I absolutely must be in it, I take a shower in sunscreen.
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on April 20, 2008, 02:59 PM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?
Does this photo exist? Can I use it for the paper?
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 09:38 AM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on April 20, 2008, 02:59 PM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?
Does this photo exist? Can I use it for the paper?
You may want to contact FMTV Toby or Nick. If it was actually a video, we can probably extract a reasonable quality still. I hope this picture exists.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 09:38 AM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on April 20, 2008, 02:59 PM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?
Does this photo exist? Can I use it for the paper?
I didn't take the photo—I noticed the opportunity and pointed it out to someone else who took it. There were about ten people with cameras, and I can't remember who it was. :(
Quote from: David on April 20, 2008, 07:51 PM NHFT
When the two cops arrested the one guy, I have never seen so many cameras at one time. ;D
That is exactly what the officer said afterwards... he joked that it made him feel like a celebrity ;D
Quote from: John on April 20, 2008, 08:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFTI would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned . . .
;D Well, I can see that many of us are quite adapting quickly to the New England weather. ;D
It seems the tradition (and I have spent my life here in New England) is to always complain/bitch about the weather.
Isn't it just a few weeks ago people were wishing for THIS weather? :_eatsnow__by_Conuyaku:
I'm :o shocked :o / saddened that so many folks moving here adapt so quickly to the "bitching."
Who'd've thunk of the umbrella? ::) Some old dude?
"I might be crazy, but I ain't no fool!"
;D ;D ;D
Funny John, some in the fsp say it is too cold in NH.
I need to point out a gratitude I believe to Coconut. It seems you organized the gaming even though I think it was Ians' idea. You got some people involved that I had not seen before. Good networking. Congratulations.
A while back Zaphar asked if it was okay for natives to NH to NHfree. I was surprized by the question at first, then got to thinkin' that maybe we/I have not done a good job getting the natives involved. But your networking is
exactly the reason we need as many involved as possible. This cannot be just a movement by a bunch of former outsiders. :)
Coconut, Toby, Brenna, Nick, and Tim are all natives, and doing more activism than most Free Staters.
They are awesome!
While I realize the penny ante poker violates the law it would have been a better example to have larger denominations bet. The NH charity gambling laws place a $2 limit on any single bet so the police would be a lot less likely to turn a blind eye to a gambling event that exceeds that limit. The current businesses that operate the poker and gambling franchises in this state would also be a lot more likely to pressure the police into action since the demonstration would offer better "action" to participants.
Still, job well done, especially to those people willing to put their buts in the seats with the police standing there.
-Nat
They were betting some dollar coins too, it looked like.
Quote from: David on April 21, 2008, 12:21 PM NHFT
I need to point out a gratitude I believe to Coconut. It seems you organized the gaming even though I think it was Ians' idea. You got some people involved that I had not seen before. Good networking. Congratulations.
I appreciate the credit. I think it was Puke's idea to begin with, but I sorta took it upon myself to organize gameplay since I have experience in it. I certainly couldn't have done anything without everyone else who was willing to play though. Menno, Puke, a traveler named Mike, and the two guys I invited, Benn and Duard. Tim was willing but we sorta lost players by that point.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 03:20 PM NHFT
They were betting some dollar coins too, it looked like.
That was just a buyin. People would exchange their dollars for pennies. We can talk about in the future using nickels instead, though the higher we go, the more I feel we need to have committed to doing it.
Keene Police Ignore Illegal Gambling Operation (http://www.newhampshirefreepress.com/NHFreePress/?q=node/82)
Thanks for the coverage!
other people were gambling
... by eating burritos
... we also were gambling with our lives .... there were cops present ... the only murder in our area last year was by a cop
... and dangerous rays from outerspace
I was playing it safe. I was out in the sun only half the time. I ate a great salad and I stayed away from the cops. :)
Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 21, 2008, 05:40 PM NHFT
other people were gambling
... by eating burritos
... we also were gambling with our lives .... there were cops present ... the only murder in our area last year was by a cop
... and dangerous rays from outerspace
I was playing it safe. I was out in the sun only half the time. I ate a great salad and I stayed away from the cops. :)
Yeah, speaking of that, both your salads and Ian's Chinese food looked more appetizing than the burrito I got at Armadillo's. It wasn't horrible, but it was kind of dry and boring and that place has been really slow both times I've gone there. Next time I'll know better. I'm giving Armadillo's a thumbs down. My fault too because I pressed for Mexican food and the other other Mexican place was the one that pushed for the smoking ban so we couldn't eat there.
Next time go with Kings Garden Chinese or Amicci's Pizza
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc. ;D
Quote from: David on April 22, 2008, 10:58 AM NHFT
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc. ;D
I thought you were opposed to torture.
Taco Bell is the best!
;D
Taco Bell= cheap, fast, beany goodness
Quote from: dalebert on April 21, 2008, 06:53 PM NHFT
Yeah, speaking of that, both your salads and Ian's Chinese food looked more appetizing than the burrito I got at Armadillo's. It wasn't horrible, but it was kind of dry and boring and that place has been really slow both times I've gone there. Next time I'll know better. I'm giving Armadillo's a thumbs down. My fault too because I pressed for Mexican food and the other other Mexican place was the one that pushed for the smoking ban so we couldn't eat there.
Dale! How DARE you berate my favorite burrito joint??! :o ... ;D
Seriously though, I absolutely
love their steak burrito... though I have noticed that it is considerably tastier when certain employees make it, than others. Unfortunately, the "good" ones were not on duty last Saturday. And of course they were slow -- they were coping with an endless line of hungry folks from the two coinciding festivals taking place right outside their door.
...and don't forget, Armadillos is the only restaurant in town that displays a large NHfree poster in the men's room! :)
Therefore, I hereby cancel out your thumbs down with my own thumbs up... as a happy repeat customer of Armadillos! ;D 8)
Not a mexican food eater, so I cant second what srqrebel is saying, but they do have an NHfree poster there. :D
Quote from: The Right Reverend Doctor Pope Sir Ryan on April 22, 2008, 12:35 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on April 22, 2008, 10:58 AM NHFT
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc. ;D
I thought you were opposed to torture.
Absolutely, that is why I suggested it. I like chicken, and you and Dale can get what Lauren calls 'beany goodness'.
Quote from: David on April 23, 2008, 09:59 AM NHFT
Absolutely, that is why I suggested it. I like chicken, and you and Dale can get what Lauren calls 'beany goodness'.
Yep. Next time I'm in town, I'll have to treat myself to some beany goodness with the pleasure of Puke and Lauren's company.
Quote from: David on April 23, 2008, 09:59 AM NHFT
Not a mexican food eater, so I cant second what srqrebel is saying, but they do have an NHfree poster there. :D Quote from: The Right Reverend Doctor Pope Sir Ryan on April 22, 2008, 12:35 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on April 22, 2008, 10:58 AM NHFT
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc. ;D
I thought you were opposed to torture.
Absolutely, that is why I suggested it. I like chicken, and you and Dale can get what Lauren calls 'beany goodness'.
Taco Bell is not food.