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Title: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 04:51 PM NHFT
Free Minds TV and FreeKeene.com present the Spring 2008 edition of Keene Freedom Fest!  Join us for an afternoon of pro-Liberty outreach, socializing, and gambling!

4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Square in Keene (the small park adjacent to 82 Main St.)

Food and drinks will be available via nearby vendors like Armadillo's Burritos, King's Garden Chinese, and Amicci's Pizza.

The following organizations/people are confirmed to be attending the event:

The following liberty oriented groups are being approached to be included in the event:
Liberty Scholarship Fund, Marijuana Policy Project, Fully Informed Jury Association

These groups are unavailable this time:  Students for Sensible Drug Policy, Law Enforcement against Prohibition, Keene Citizens Government Review

Can you think of any other organizations that should be invited?

Unlike last year, this time the event will not be requesting permission from the government people.  From what I understand, as long as we are not obstructing people's ability to move through the park, no one should be arrested.  Those who are gambling will obviously be at risk, however.

FYI:  We do have four feet of table space available for those who do not have their own table space. 
(NHLA, NHCS, AltEx)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 04:55 PM NHFT
I'm thinking that instead of doing Operation Politically Homeless this time I'm going to try striking the root by using Marc Stevens' "World's Shortest Political Quiz":

"Should a service or product be provided at the threat of violence?"


I am thinking about having a white board with hashmarks to tally how many people answered what way.


I will also have hundreds of these on hand to give away:
http://www.theadvocates.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LS&Product_Code=DL&Category_Code=BOO
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 05:00 PM NHFT
If Free Minds TV begins promoting this event immediately, that should help get people to turn out.  Once all of the attending organizations are ironed out, I will send a news release out to my Keene media list.  I can always call "Talkback" the morning of and get a free plug.  Gardner Goldsmith has offered to interview me.

How else can we promote?  On Keene State College campus?  Is school in session that week?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on March 03, 2008, 05:05 PM NHFT
What can we do to actually draw people?  Something fun to tweak peoples interest. 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on March 03, 2008, 05:17 PM NHFT
Is there a side thread having to do with the gambling game? Who is organizing that? What game is being played? Do you have or need poker chips, or do you want it to look more "underground" like by having federal money being thrown out onto the table?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on March 03, 2008, 05:19 PM NHFT
Gambling in general is being discussed in the civil dis. section. 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 03, 2008, 05:21 PM NHFT
What can we do to actually draw people?  Something fun to tweak peoples interest. 

Strippers
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on March 03, 2008, 05:24 PM NHFT
Gambling in general is being discussed in the civil dis. section. 

I will go there to talk about it. Seems like they are not discussing specifics. Either they don't think they need to yet, or don't think they need to at all.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 05:34 PM NHFT
I know you had offered to deal cards.  Perhaps you should consult with Facilitator to the Icon, as he may be bringing a dice game.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on March 03, 2008, 05:39 PM NHFT
Specifics are hard to come by when asking someone to do something that may get them arrested.   :-\
What can we do to actually draw people?  Something fun to tweak peoples interest. 

Strippers
Nah, I was thinking maybe games, food, stuff of that nature.  Possibly a fund raiser for the Liberty Scholarship Fund. 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 05:48 PM NHFT
I am inviting the Liberty Scholarship Fund, so perhaps you should run a 50/50 raffle, David.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 05:54 PM NHFT
Nah, I was thinking maybe games, food, stuff of that nature.  Possibly a fund raiser for the Liberty Scholarship Fund. 

Well, we know there will be games (gambling).  If someone wants to sell food, that would be fine, however they will be in competition with the nearby food outlets that I mentioned.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: TobyFMTV on March 03, 2008, 06:53 PM NHFT
If Free Minds TV begins promoting this event immediately, that should help get people to turn out.  Once all of the attending organizations are ironed out, I will send a news release out to my Keene media list.  I can always call "Talkback" the morning of and get a free plug.

How else can we promote?  On Keene State College campus?  Is school in session that week?

As far as I know, Keene State College is in session that week. It wouldn't hurt to make flyers for billboards not only at KSC, but also around town.

If anyone has a good idea for a promo to be run on Cheshire TV that couldn't hurt either.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 03, 2008, 07:01 PM NHFT
As far as I know, Keene State College is in session that week. It wouldn't hurt to make flyers for billboards not only at KSC, but also around town.

If anyone has a good idea for a promo to be run on Cheshire TV that couldn't hurt either.

Since you are looking for something to be delegated to you, would you like to take charge of the fliers and then perhaps ask Sean to cobble together a quick 15 second promo from last year's footage?

Puke has design experience.  Perhaps he would be willing to build the flyer and we could go around and put them up.  It would be useful to create a database of possible flyer locations, for future use as well.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 03, 2008, 08:08 PM NHFT
I am inviting the Liberty Scholarship Fund, so perhaps you should run a 50/50 raffle, David.

I've got a roll of tickets
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 04, 2008, 12:22 AM NHFT
I'm thinking that instead of doing Operation Politically Homeless this time I'm going to try striking the root by using Marc Stevens' "World's Shortest Political Quiz":

"Should a service or product be provided at the barrel of a gun?"

 
I am thinking about having a white board with hashmarks to tally how many people answered what way.

Or, perhaps I should keep the results private, so as not to influence answers.


Quote
I will also have hundreds of these on hand to give away:
http://www.theadvocates.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LS&Product_Code=DL&Category_Code=BOO

Should there be a special handout for people that say no? 

Perhaps we should try to get their name and information and then take their picture?   :icon_pirat:
(Only half joking.)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: d_goddard on March 18, 2008, 01:14 PM NHFT
Helium balloons attract people. Especially people with kids -- the have to stick around long enough to get a balloon for their kid. Maybe you get a balloon when you complete the WSPQ?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 01:33 AM NHFT
Since you are looking for something to be delegated to you, would you like to take charge of the fliers and then perhaps ask Sean to cobble together a quick 15 second promo from last year's footage?

Puke has design experience.  Perhaps he would be willing to build the flyer and we could go around and put them up.  It would be useful to create a database of possible flyer locations, for future use as well.

Would affixing them to parking meters work? I could go scout out some areas this weekend.

P.S. the front of city hall? >:D
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That could be construed as littering. 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: jaqeboy on March 20, 2008, 03:18 AM NHFT

Can you think of any other organizations that should be invited?


Alternatives Expo - send jack@AltExpo.org any info you have. I'm sure we could get a couple of our minions to table there (we've got to work on our graphics and a flyer, but it's a month away)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: dalebert on March 20, 2008, 10:17 AM NHFT
I'll try to make it down for this. Sounds fun.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 10:41 AM NHFT
Alternatives Expo - send jack@AltExpo.org any info you have. I'm sure we could get a couple of our minions to table there (we've got to work on our graphics and a flyer, but it's a month away)

All the info is in the top post.  If you'll have people there, I can provide you with 4 feet of table space.  Let me know.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: jaqeboy on March 20, 2008, 12:23 PM NHFT
Alternatives Expo - send jack@AltExpo.org any info you have. I'm sure we could get a couple of our minions to table there (we've got to work on our graphics and a flyer, but it's a month away)

All the info is in the top post.  If you'll have people there, I can provide you with 4 feet of table space.  Let me know.

K, count us in - we'll be there! The AltExpo.org site has obsolete info on it now, but will be undergoing progressive updating as time goes on. We'll create a calendar of our events and add the Keene Freedom Fest to it.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 12:35 PM NHFT
Great!  I have added you to the list of attendees.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 20, 2008, 04:21 PM NHFT
Do we need flyers? If ya'll want me to work something up let me know.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 04:51 PM NHFT
That would be great.  I heard that Coconut is going to school at Keene State College, so perhaps he can help distribute them there.  Additionally, I believe Toby is in charge of flyering.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 20, 2008, 08:32 PM NHFT
That would be great.  I heard that Coconut is going to school at Keene State College, so perhaps he can help distribute them there.  Additionally, I believe Toby is in charge of flyering.

Can I get specific info that should be on the flyer?

I suppose that it will be printed in B&W. If that's the case I'll hold back the color.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 20, 2008, 09:02 PM NHFT
I don't think we can afford color.

Check the top post and go with what you think is appropriate...
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 20, 2008, 09:30 PM NHFT
I don't think we can afford color.

Check the top post and go with what you think is appropriate...

Okey dokey.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: d_goddard on March 20, 2008, 09:49 PM NHFT
I don't think we can afford color.
Check the top post and go with what you think is appropriate...

Ian, you do realize who you just asked to "go with what he thinks is appropriate"?!?!?

(http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/450/sp0876_450.jpeg)


Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 21, 2008, 08:10 AM NHFT

Ian, you do realize who you just asked to "go with what he thinks is appropriate"?!?!?


Pfft.  ::) I wasn't going to make it that big on the flyer! Just the lower half.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 22, 2008, 12:46 PM NHFT
Is this the second or the third KFF? I think it's the second, right?

Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 22, 2008, 12:57 PM NHFT
2nd
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 22, 2008, 01:20 PM NHFT
First draft. Critiques please.

I plan to copy the top half onto the bottom to maximize print space.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 22, 2008, 01:58 PM NHFT
Looks good! 

Critiques:
Downtown is one word.
Incorrect date.  It is 4/19.
Remove "civil disobedience".  It should just be "and gambling!"
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 22, 2008, 04:28 PM NHFT
Fixed.

Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 22, 2008, 10:20 PM NHFT
Perhaps add Saturday to the date, so people don't have to check their calendars.

Also, we plan to do three of these per year so I don't know if "second annual" is correct in that case.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: jaqeboy on March 23, 2008, 12:35 AM NHFT
Maybe add each exhibiting group's URL somewhere close to their name (under in small font would work). That way people could still access some resources, even if they don't go.

AltExpo.org for the Alternatives Exposition (or Expo)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 23, 2008, 07:50 AM NHFT
OK, added 'Saturday' and changed the annual thing to 'Spring 2008'.
 
I don't want to put URL's on there. That would be a cluster-fuck of information. It's best to keep it simple.
 
I've seen some flyers and ad's that are just crammed with text. A person is going to make a decision to look at the flyer in the first couple seconds. It has to be readable at a glance as they walk by. Too much text and the info gets lost in the forest of letters.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 23, 2008, 10:08 AM NHFT
I like it.  :)

I like that it is half a page. The full page size ends up getting tossed on the ground, often. Something that fits in your pocket is idea.

If you were interested in printing both sides the backside could have the text that you don't want to "busy up" the front with.

We did palm cards once that had info on what to do in a pullover/protect your rights on the reverse and our message on the front. Made it small enough to fit in a pocket and folks would keep it for a reference.

Anyway, nice job Sir Puke.  8)

Elizabeth just noticed that attendees is misspelled.  :)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 23, 2008, 11:35 AM NHFT
Toby, if you want to get those printed up at Staples, FreeKeene will cover the cost.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 23, 2008, 12:06 PM NHFT
Alright, I think all the spelling errors are fixed.

I have a PDF for whoever is printing it out.
I tried a test print on my printer, but it's a piece of junk. Hopefully the print shops have better printers.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: jaqeboy on March 24, 2008, 12:11 AM NHFT
...
Elizabeth just noticed that attendees is misspelled.  :)

That should probably be exhibitors instead of attendees.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on March 24, 2008, 10:51 AM NHFT
...
Elizabeth just noticed that attendees is misspelled.  :)

That should probably be exhibitors instead of attendees.

I agree

---

That is a very nice flyer, Puke! It is eyecatching, uncluttered, and professional... very well done :)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 24, 2008, 03:59 PM NHFT
OK, I changed it to 'exhibitors' and I spell checked it.
If you have any other good ideas give them to me now or forever STFU.  :P
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 08:31 AM NHFT
If you have any other good ideas give them to me now or forever STFU.  :P

I think we should build a libertarian colony on the moon and live there in peace and bliss.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on March 25, 2008, 03:37 PM NHFT
I think we should build a libertarian colony on the moon and live there in peace and bliss.

That will require on hell of a flyer!
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on March 25, 2008, 04:40 PM NHFT
Personally I would rather it say "games" than "gambling." Maybe it's me, but I'm trying to act like what we're doing should be completely, unquestionably free from regulation, and the word "gambling" has a bit of negative ring to it in society. It isn't a big deal though. Thoughts?

I don't know what's more likely to attract people. When people see "gambling", I think they will show up expecting to be betting lots of money on wheel spins or something. "Games" means that there will be games to play, and if a penny changes hands, it's part of the game.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 25, 2008, 07:21 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Pat K on March 25, 2008, 07:27 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon

Issues moonular mission statement.

Decries tactics of dark side of the moon activists.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 25, 2008, 07:36 PM NHFT
“Gaming” — halfway between games and gambling, is technically correct, but obscure enough that people might not immediately think it means gambling.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on March 26, 2008, 01:41 PM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon

Issues moonular mission statement.

Decries tactics of dark side of the moon activists.

The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress... ? :D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on March 31, 2008, 06:03 PM NHFT
Someone asked on FTL if we could live broadcast this event. It's not impossible. Downtown Keene is supplied with wireless internet. It might be able to reach to railroad square. If that's the case, all you need is a portable computer and a camera, and maybe power to keep it running past battery life. Should I look into this? I don't mind using my equipment, which could probably broadcast for about 90 minutes if the connection was strong enough before batteries ran out. As long as someone was there to pick it up for me if I was for some reason unable to return home.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on March 31, 2008, 09:32 PM NHFT
If you want to do so, I doubt there will be enough viewers to justify it.  There also won't be much of interest to broadcast.  Makes more sense to tape some footage and edit a package for FMTV / Youtube.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: d_goddard on March 31, 2008, 10:28 PM NHFT
85% chance that Capitol Access (http://nhcaptv.com) will be there as well
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 01, 2008, 11:14 AM NHFT
Someone asked on FTL if we could live broadcast this event. It's not impossible. Downtown Keene is supplied with wireless internet. It might be able to reach to railroad square. If that's the case, all you need is a portable computer and a camera, and maybe power to keep it running past battery life. Should I look into this? I don't mind using my equipment, which could probably broadcast for about 90 minutes if the connection was strong enough before batteries ran out. As long as someone was there to pick it up for me if I was for some reason unable to return home.

Railroad Square in Keene has both wireless access, and electrical outlets -- so you wouldn't need to rely on a battery.

I like the idea of a live broadcast, especially with the potential for a civdis arrest(s) happening... if we plan to live broadcast the event, and spread the word in advance, we could greatly increase our audience.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: jaqeboy on April 01, 2008, 03:11 PM NHFT
Ought to get Ridley Report to announce it in advance and report on it on the day, too. Maybe pay for an ad on his reports?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 01, 2008, 07:53 PM NHFT
Someone asked on FTL if we could live broadcast this event. It's not impossible. Downtown Keene is supplied with wireless internet. It might be able to reach to railroad square. If that's the case, all you need is a portable computer and a camera, and maybe power to keep it running past battery life. Should I look into this? I don't mind using my equipment, which could probably broadcast for about 90 minutes if the connection was strong enough before batteries ran out. As long as someone was there to pick it up for me if I was for some reason unable to return home.

Railroad Square in Keene has both wireless access, and electrical outlets -- so you wouldn't need to rely on a battery.

I once heard that while there's outlets, the power isn't turned on unless someone has signed up for an event in the area, which we haven't. I will try to test my setup this weekend, and will post a link in this thread if I feel like a live feed is viable. Maybe we could even have 2 cams, but that's getting a bit overboard. One step at a time coco.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 02, 2008, 11:32 AM NHFT
I once heard that while there's outlets, the power isn't turned on unless someone has signed up for an event in the area, which we haven't...

Hmm... I used the outlets a number of times last summer and fall, before the weather turned cold. My laptop battery is so far gone that it only lasts for a minute or so without auxiliary power, and I never had a problem accessing the electricity at Railroad Square.

Tell you what... you plan the live broadcast, and I will bring an alternative power source just to be sure :icon_pirat: 8)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: d_goddard on April 02, 2008, 01:05 PM NHFT
Ian, you understand and appreciate the difference between "argumentation" and "discussion" -- and the importance of avoiding the former if the intent is to win hearts and minds.

I am therefore glad that the gaming will not be intentionally an act of Civ Dis. For the vast majority of the general population -- even those who score in the top quadrant of the Nolan Chart -- if they see the police arresting someone, their first impression is that the person must be doing something "bad"

Civ Dis has its place.
That place is not at a festival intended to introduce people to the freedom-loving community.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 02, 2008, 06:15 PM NHFT
Tell you what... you plan the live broadcast, and I will bring an alternative power source just to be sure :icon_pirat: 8)

While I certainly wouldn't prevent anyone from broadcasting live, I will once again reiterate that I believe that an event where people will primarily be standing around talking with one another will not make for very interesting live broadcast content.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 02, 2008, 08:34 PM NHFT
While I certainly wouldn't prevent anyone from broadcasting live, I will once again reiterate that I believe that an event where people will primarily be standing around talking with one another will not make for very interesting live broadcast content.

People watch some pretty boring things online since Justin.tv came out.

Anyway, I was talking to a few guys I may or may not play poker with each week, and at least one of them says he plans to be there to play for pennies. It's getting down to the time when we should be making sure we have tables and chairs, and decide exactly what is going on. As I have said before, I will come prepared with everything necessary to play a poker game, besides a table unless I need to find one, and all anyone else has to do is come with 2 quarters to buy a roll of pennies.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 02, 2008, 09:03 PM NHFT
Can we borrow chairs from the Masonic Hall?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 02, 2008, 10:26 PM NHFT
Can we borrow chairs from the Masonic Hall?

The same building Cheshire TV is in? The new Masonic Hall is a different building on upper Washington Street I think. But CTV sure has a lot of spare chairs in racks there. I don't know the process of borrowing some. Should I ask Lee, if he is around when I stop by the studio tomorrow?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 03, 2008, 12:12 AM NHFT
Yeah, CTV.  Please take the initiative and let me know!
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 03, 2008, 06:25 AM NHFT
Watching video of he event would be like watching a security camera.
http://www.opentopia.com/hiddencam.php?seewhat=newest&country=&showmode=standard&screen=1 (http://www.opentopia.com/hiddencam.php?seewhat=newest&country=&showmode=standard&screen=1)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 03, 2008, 09:08 AM NHFT
Puke, is your truck available between 11a and 12p on 4/19?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 03, 2008, 01:10 PM NHFT
Yeah, CTV.  Please take the initiative and let me know!

I spoke with L. Perkins today. He is not authorized to lend those chairs; they belong to the library. A woman at the library named Nancy is in charge of them, but he guessed that there's no reason she would let them be taken out. I don't think we want to go the renting route, since there should be other solutions.

I will keep thinking on it, unless someone else can commit to bringing seating.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 03, 2008, 03:58 PM NHFT
Puke, is your truck available between 11a and 12p on 4/19?

Sure.

Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 04, 2008, 01:50 PM NHFT
I wonder if The Governor "Big Air" champion dummy created by the underground Kinetic Sculpture Team could make an appearance?

(http://www.politicalgraffiti.com/nhfree/images/IMG_8945-Team-Underground.jpg)

Folks get there picture taken with the governor...  ;D

have some signs... what kind of fun captions could we have? >:D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 04, 2008, 03:33 PM NHFT
That's some frightening shit!  :o
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Jim Johnson on April 04, 2008, 04:03 PM NHFT
He is The Big Air Dumby.  ;D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 05, 2008, 06:07 PM NHFT
I hear there's going to be a Schnergenberger booth.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 10, 2008, 04:14 PM NHFT
Kat mentioned that she would be bringing four folding chairs and I will also be bringing four folding chairs.

I now also have a 10' x 10' canopy.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 10, 2008, 07:21 PM NHFT
Folding chairs retrieved and ready :)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 15, 2008, 10:08 PM NHFT
Hmm... problem, or opportunity?

http://www.antiochne.edu/news/earthweek08/

Should I contact the organizer and work out some peaceful co-existence?  Should we move the day?  The location?  Just show up anyway?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 15, 2008, 10:48 PM NHFT
I'm going to give her a call tomorrow and see what we can work out.  Hopefully, this won't turn into a tragedy of the commons...
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 15, 2008, 11:19 PM NHFT
Wow... big news real late. Good luck on your call, and I'm sure you'll keep us posted.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 16, 2008, 11:09 AM NHFT
I'm bringing the 4 folding chairs, but if people have these camp chairs, they'd be good to bring also.

(http://www.hiking-gear-and-equipment-used-for-camping.com/images/camping%20chairs.jpg)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 16, 2008, 12:24 PM NHFT
Hmm... problem, or opportunity?

http://www.antiochne.edu/news/earthweek08/


I'm with you Ian -- that's a tough call. On the one hand, there would certainly be a ready made audience; otoh, it has a strong potential to make us come off as parasitic (mooching off another event), not to mention disruptive, if arrests are made.

I'm inclined to think this is a case where the potential negativity of the publicity outweighs the publicity itself. Too bad the scheduling conflict wasn't discovered sooner.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 16, 2008, 12:30 PM NHFT
Ian, if you still plan on calling the event organizer to work out a deal, may I suggest that you are completely candid with her regarding the planned illegal gambling table as an act of civ dis, along with the possibility of a minor scene arising out of activists being arrested, and the arrests being filmed. That way, there are no surprises -- and if a deal can be arranged with that understanding, the potential for negative publicity is nipped in the bud.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 16, 2008, 12:56 PM NHFT
Well I just picked up $8 in rolls of pennies to be prepared for a poker game, or other penny bets. If we're still on...
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 16, 2008, 01:35 PM NHFT
I spoke with the organizer and she's fine with coexisting.  I'm considering going out at 8 a.m. and setting up at that time as that's when they'll be setting up too, then we could start our event a couple hours early...
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 16, 2008, 01:37 PM NHFT
not to mention disruptive, if arrests are made.

That would be the government's fault, not ours.  We will be peaceful and quiet (no live music or anything), so nothing about our event will be disruptive to theirs.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 16, 2008, 03:30 PM NHFT
Could be a great opportunity to explain how the free-market is better than the gov't to the tree-hugger socialist types.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 16, 2008, 07:54 PM NHFT
I will also have access to a few more chairs if we need. I hope to come around 10:30 - 11, see if I can cover a picnic table with a poker top. If not, I can come home and get a table. Two non-freestaters have told me they will come and play. Players can buy pennies on the spot, and blinds (for anyone who knows poker) will be .01/.02 No Limit. We can double that later in the day if the situation calls for it, but with each person starting at around 50 cents, 1/2 would be standard.

Should I bring my camera? I'm leaning toward yes, but I'm trying to carry as little as possible on my person. Also, who might be available to hold player's keys and possibly temporarily take care of their cars in a worst case scenario?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 16, 2008, 10:13 PM NHFT
Anyone with a truck available early Saturday (8am) to move tables to Railroad Sq.?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Friday on April 17, 2008, 11:16 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited  :'( , I'll be meandering at this event, sans table, selling raffle tickets.  First prize is your choice of a Beretta Tomcat .32 or a Springfield XD .40!  Second prize is whichever gun the first prize winner didn't select!  Tickets are $5 each, 3 for $10, or 7 for $20.  Note that if you win, you'll need to retrieve your prize yourself from Riley's Gun Shop in Hooksett and comply with whatever legal stuph is applicable.

If looking for me, please note I have cut all my hair off.  [superfluous RHPS reference]Goodbye Magenta, hello Columbia.  :toocool: [/superfluous RHPS reference]  There is no cause for alarm!  Remain calm and proceed to purchase raffle tickets in a calm, orderly fashion.   8)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 17, 2008, 11:18 AM NHFT
not to mention disruptive, if arrests are made.

That would be the government's fault, not ours.  We will be peaceful and quiet (no live music or anything), so nothing about our event will be disruptive to theirs.

Oh I'm with you there, totally. My point was just that it might not appear that way to the public.

I'm glad the organizer is cool with it, and look forward to participating! :broc1: 8)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 17, 2008, 11:21 AM NHFT
Anyone with a truck available early Saturday (8am) to move tables to Railroad Sq.?

I can be available with my pickup... though you might prefer one with an open bed, if available.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 17, 2008, 11:28 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited  :'(

I did ask for other suggestions.  Honestly, I didn't even think of the LP.  Do they have any presence in Cheshire County?

You are welcome to have the remaining 4' of table space!
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 17, 2008, 11:31 AM NHFT
If looking for me, please note I have cut all my hair off.  

What??? Sandy with no hair?!!! :o :o :o

 ;D 8)






...or is that just a decoy to mislead the phalanxes of Secret Service agents sure to be lurking in the crowd? :glasses7: :glasses7: :glasses7: :glasses7: ;D :-X
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Friday on April 17, 2008, 11:36 AM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon

http://www.free-luna.com/
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 17, 2008, 11:42 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited  :'( , I'll be meandering at this event, sans table, selling raffle tickets.  First prize is your choice of a Beretta Tomcat .32 or a Springfield XD .40!  Second prize is whichever gun the first prize winner didn't select!  Tickets are $5 each, 3 for $10, or 7 for $20.  Note that if you win, you'll need to retrieve your prize yourself from Riley's Gun Shop in Hooksett and comply with whatever legal stuph is applicable.


Awesome. I don't know how to use a gun, but I could carry it around unloaded.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 17, 2008, 11:44 AM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon

http://www.free-luna.com/

Hahaha, that's friggin awesome!!

I want a shirt with that on it.

Did you design that, Sandy? I'd say you got a moneymaker on your hands. Im willing to bet one could sell at least forty shirts with that design at PorcFest.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Friday on April 17, 2008, 11:47 AM NHFT
Since the LPNH wasn't invited  :'(

I did ask for other suggestions.  Honestly, I didn't even think of the LP.  Do they have any presence in Cheshire County?

You are welcome to have the remaining 4' of table space!
The LPNH does have people running for office in Cheshire County, I believe; not 100% sure.

Thank you for the offer of table space.  I'll see if Howard W. wants to come and collect petition signatures; he's definitely got enough literature to fill up 4' of table space.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Friday on April 17, 2008, 11:49 AM NHFT
Free State Project Colonizes Moon

http://www.free-luna.com/

Hahaha, that's friggin awesome!!

I want a shirt with that on it.

Did you design that, Sandy? I'd say you got a moneymaker on your hands. Im willing to bet one could sell at least forty shirts with that design at PorcFest.
No, the domain is mine, and some guy I don't even know sent me that design.  I'll try to remember who it was.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 17, 2008, 03:38 PM NHFT

Awesome. I don't know how to use a gun, but I could carry it around unloaded.

It's easy, you point the open end at whatever you want to die and pull the trigger.  :P
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 17, 2008, 06:54 PM NHFT
Anyone with a truck available early Saturday (8am) to move tables to Railroad Sq.?

I can be available with my pickup... though you might prefer one with an open bed, if available.

Anyway, back to Freedom Fest discussion.

FMTV Nick has volunteered to help move the 8' tables Saturday morning.

I think we are also going to unofficially start the Fest at 10am in order to coincide with Earth Day's start time.  (Meaning I will be there from 10a-3p, and probably earlier than 10.)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 17, 2008, 06:57 PM NHFT

I think we are also going to unofficially start the Fest at 10am in order to coincide with Earth Day's start time.  (Meaning I will be there from 10a-3p, and probably earlier than 10.)

I'll get there when I can, but will not start dealing poker until 12 noon or a bit after.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 18, 2008, 06:31 AM NHFT
Alright, I'll be there to help setup. Hmm, if we do this again, a roulette wheel might be a good addition for people who don't know how to play poker 8)

I do believe there will be a dice game that anyone can learn in a few seconds.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: ReverendRyan on April 18, 2008, 06:37 AM NHFT
Alright, I'll be there to help setup. Hmm, if we do this again, a roulette wheel might be a good addition for people who don't know how to play poker 8)

I do believe there will be a dice game that anyone can learn in a few seconds.

Why not just bet on coin flips?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 18, 2008, 09:31 PM NHFT
The Fest was mentioned tonight on Keene No-Spin. Not too much. They just made a note that we won't have a permit while the earth day folks do. Rumor is that the police are already aware of what's going on, and they don't care: they don't want conflict. Perfect as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 02:26 AM NHFT
Anyone want to engage in electricity civil disobedience? I was hassled for plugging my computer in downtown.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 02:28 AM NHFT
Sounds sad... :(

See the latest page of the Keene Copwatch thread. I explained it there.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Atlas on April 19, 2008, 03:23 PM NHFT
I can't wait to hear how this turned out. I'll be tuning into FTL promptly at 7; hopefully someone will bring the topic up at some point.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 03:38 PM NHFT
There was no incident. An officer actually was engaged with Ian in conversation about the "products at the threat of violence." He first said that he agrees that everyone should live their lives how they want without harming anyone, and then called LEAP ridiculous. He said he's against prohibition and that drugs should be illegal (He didn't know what prohibition meant?) Once we clarified he made it perfectly clear that he is against drug legalization.

Anyway, that same cop was at the festival all day. There was a much bigger Earth Day fest going on at the same time. He was most definitely in the area while we played poker. In fact, another man at the park was arrested by him on an outstanding warrant, but the cop didn't even come close to that poker table while the game was going on.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 19, 2008, 05:02 PM NHFT
some of the party is still going on at our house ... it might have also continued at other places too :)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 19, 2008, 05:36 PM NHFT
Thanx to "Ian and the Keeniacs"... good band name.  ;D Ya'll know who you are.  :D

It was good to see folks, extra special to the folks that traveled across the state to be there.  8)

The pres. and I enjoyed starting a fire with a bow drill and the hand carved bows were cool, especially cause William is in his Robin Hood faze.  :)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 19, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3142&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3143&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3144&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3145&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3146&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3147&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3148&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3149&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3150&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3151&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3152&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3153&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3154&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3155&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3156&scalesize=0&nocount=y)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Atlas on April 19, 2008, 09:12 PM NHFT
Nice pictures Kat
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 19, 2008, 09:17 PM NHFT
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=2692&scalesize=0&nocount=y)

This guy who about decked Roger at Tilting for Windmills showed up and was interested in the poker game today.  He was wearing the same shirt as the at the tilting at windmills.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 19, 2008, 09:31 PM NHFT
I'm glad to not be in jail tonight. Take that gov't assholes.  :icon_pirat:
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 09:32 PM NHFT
This guy who about decked Roger at Tilting for Windmills showed up and was interested in the poker game today.

Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 19, 2008, 09:32 PM NHFT
He asked if Dale's bumper stickers were for donation and I told him $2.  He didn't want it then.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 19, 2008, 09:43 PM NHFT
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.

Someone else needs to buy another 10x10' canopy for the gambling table...  $60 at Walmart.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 19, 2008, 09:44 PM NHFT
Thanks to everyone who came out today!   8)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 19, 2008, 10:35 PM NHFT
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.

Someone else needs to buy another 10x10' canopy for the gambling table...  $60 at Walmart.

My issue would be storage space for it probably. We can talk about it if we find a need for another one in the future.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 20, 2008, 05:11 AM NHFT
This guy who about decked Roger at Tilting for Windmills showed up and was interested in the poker game today.

Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.

Like interested in playing.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on April 20, 2008, 11:32 AM NHFT
Interested in what way? In playing, or just the fact that we were there? I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned and about half the players left to do other things.

Someone else needs to buy another 10x10' canopy for the gambling table...  $60 at Walmart.

I have a good one (not Wal-mart crap) that I'll be taking to Porcfest.  I could leave it with someone in NH b/t Porcfest and Burning Porcupine if you are going to do another Freedom Fest b/t the two events.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 20, 2008, 12:07 PM NHFT
Care to enlighten us about the location of these NH casinos, Mr. KnowItAll?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on April 20, 2008, 12:35 PM NHFT
Hello Kat.  I took it that you were replying to my comment in this thread (http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=13743.0 ), though I may be wrong.  You likely know of this stuff already.  I'll post it for those not in the loop.

http://www.granitestatepoker.com/ at http://www.rockinghampark.com/

http://www.hinsdalegreyhound.com/

http://www.seabrookgreyhoundpark.com/

http://www.thelodgeatbelmont.com/
Reasonable people can disagree but I think a place that offers poker, craps, blackjack, roulette, horse betting, dog betting, has restaurants and is owned by a gaming company can be called a casino.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 20, 2008, 12:43 PM NHFT
(http://www.nhunderground.com/wiki/show_image.php?id=3142&scalesize=0&nocount=y)

Forgot to caption this one....

If you go to Keene Railroad Square, be sure to wear a flower in your shirt.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Jim Johnson on April 20, 2008, 01:20 PM NHFT
If you're going to Keene Railroad Square
You're gonna meet some gentle people there

For those who come to Keene Railroad Square
Summertime will be a love-in there
In the streets of Keene Railroad Square
Gentle people with flowers in their shirts   ;D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on April 20, 2008, 03:59 PM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 20, 2008, 04:05 PM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?

That would be ideal for the paper.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: John on April 20, 2008, 05:37 PM NHFT
 8)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on April 20, 2008, 08:51 PM NHFT
I thought the flower on Lauren looked cute. 
I chickened out on gambling, but congrats on those that didn't. 
When the two cops arrested the one guy, I have never seen so many cameras at one time.   ;D
We wanted the police to ignore the civ dis, and it worked.  When police choose to ignore, rather than arrest, we both win.  That is what we want, and it does make their job easier. 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: John on April 20, 2008, 09:00 PM NHFT
I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned  . . .


 ;D Well, I can see that many of us are quite adapting quickly to the New England weather.  ;D
It seems the tradition (and I have spent my life here in New England) is to always complain/bitch about the weather.
Isn't it just a few weeks ago people were wishing for THIS weather?   :_eatsnow__by_Conuyaku:
I'm  :o shocked  :o / saddened that so many folks moving here adapt so quickly to the "bitching."

Who'd've thunk of the umbrella?  ::)  Some old dude?
"I might be crazy, but I ain't no fool!"
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 20, 2008, 09:25 PM NHFT
I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned  . . .


 ;D Well, I can see that many of us are quite adapting quickly to the New England weather.  ;D
It seems the tradition (and I have spent my life here in New England) is to always complain/bitch about the weather.

I'm a native, not a mover. I like the hot better than the cold. I just hardly ever put on sunscreen. I'm gonna get cancer :(
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 20, 2008, 11:27 PM NHFT

I'm a native,

 ;D Everyone knows Coconuts aren't native to NH.  ;)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: John on April 21, 2008, 02:25 AM NHFT
 :_eatsnow__by_Conuyaku: :Bolt: :icon_sunny: :Bolt: :book1: :_storm__by_clairebearer: :blah_by_sarrlas_emotes: :Bolt: :grouphug: :peace: :Bolt: :tent:
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 08:24 AM NHFT
I don't think the sun causes cancer.  You need vitamin d from the sun.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 21, 2008, 08:35 AM NHFT
I don't think the sun causes cancer.  You need vitamin d from the sun.

But most everyone says that sunburns increase risk of skin cancer.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 08:37 AM NHFT
It should be obvious doctors don't know their ass from a hole in the ground about cancer.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 21, 2008, 08:55 AM NHFT
UV is a mutagen. Sunlight is good for you, however UV can mutate cells. Everything is a balancing act.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: dalebert on April 21, 2008, 09:08 AM NHFT
You don't need much sun to get it and Vitamin D can be obtained from other sources. Even if you never get cancer, the sun damages and ages your skin. Most people don't realize their skin has taken damage unless they get a painful sunburn, but any amount of tan is the result of some degree of sun damage. Of course, a lot of sun at once resulting in a burn, increases the risk of cancer. That's particularly true if it happens in youth when your skin is still growing. That's one of the highest risk factors for skin cancer- repeated sunburn in your youth. Some people have more melanin in their skin naturally and the damage is slower, but it's true to a varying extent for everyone. Fair-skinned people are particularly vulnerable to it. People always comment about how I look young for my age. I avoid sun exposure and when I absolutely must be in it, I take a shower in sunscreen.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 10:38 AM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?

Does this photo exist?  Can I use it for the paper?
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 21, 2008, 11:35 AM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?

Does this photo exist?  Can I use it for the paper?

You may want to contact FMTV Toby or Nick. If it was actually a video, we can probably extract a reasonable quality still. I hope this picture exists.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on April 21, 2008, 11:40 AM NHFT
Someone got a really good photo of the gaming table with the cop car parked directly behind it. Anyone have that one here?

Does this photo exist?  Can I use it for the paper?

I didn’t take the photo—I noticed the opportunity and pointed it out to someone else who took it. There were about ten people with cameras, and I can’t remember who it was. :(
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 21, 2008, 12:05 PM NHFT
 
When the two cops arrested the one guy, I have never seen so many cameras at one time.   ;D 

That is exactly what the officer said afterwards... he joked that it made him feel like a celebrity ;D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on April 21, 2008, 01:21 PM NHFT
I would have loved to keep playing but people were getting sunburned  . . .


 ;D Well, I can see that many of us are quite adapting quickly to the New England weather.  ;D
It seems the tradition (and I have spent my life here in New England) is to always complain/bitch about the weather.
Isn't it just a few weeks ago people were wishing for THIS weather?   :_eatsnow__by_Conuyaku:
I'm  :o shocked  :o / saddened that so many folks moving here adapt so quickly to the "bitching."

Who'd've thunk of the umbrella?  ::)  Some old dude?
"I might be crazy, but I ain't no fool!"

 ;D ;D ;D
Funny John, some in the fsp say it is too cold in NH. 

I need to point out a gratitude I believe to Coconut.  It seems you organized the gaming even though I think it was Ians' idea.  You got some people involved that I had not seen before.  Good networking.  Congratulations. 
A while back Zaphar asked if it was okay for natives to NH to NHfree.  I was surprized by the question at first, then got to thinkin' that maybe we/I have not done a good job getting the natives involved.  But your networking is exactly the reason we need as many involved as possible.  This cannot be just a movement by a bunch of former outsiders.   :) 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 21, 2008, 01:27 PM NHFT
Coconut, Toby, Brenna, Nick, and Tim are all natives, and doing more activism than most Free Staters.

They are awesome!
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Nat F on April 21, 2008, 04:18 PM NHFT
While I realize the penny ante poker violates the law it would have been a better example to have larger denominations bet.  The NH charity gambling laws place a $2 limit on any single bet so the police would be a lot less likely to turn a blind eye to a gambling event that exceeds that limit.  The current businesses that operate the poker and gambling franchises in this state would also be a lot more likely to pressure the police into action since the demonstration would offer better "action" to participants.

Still, job well done, especially to those people willing to put their buts in the seats with the police standing there.

-Nat
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 04:20 PM NHFT
They were betting some dollar coins too, it looked like.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Coconut on April 21, 2008, 04:38 PM NHFT
I need to point out a gratitude I believe to Coconut.  It seems you organized the gaming even though I think it was Ians' idea.  You got some people involved that I had not seen before.  Good networking.  Congratulations. 

I appreciate the credit. I think it was Puke's idea to begin with, but I sorta took it upon myself to organize gameplay since I have experience in it. I certainly couldn't have done anything without everyone else who was willing to play though. Menno, Puke, a traveler named Mike, and the two guys I invited, Benn and Duard. Tim was willing but we sorta lost players by that point.

They were betting some dollar coins too, it looked like.

That was just a buyin. People would exchange their dollars for pennies. We can talk about in the future using nickels instead, though the higher we go, the more I feel we need to have committed to doing it.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 21, 2008, 05:38 PM NHFT
Keene Police Ignore Illegal Gambling Operation (http://www.newhampshirefreepress.com/NHFreePress/?q=node/82)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 21, 2008, 06:02 PM NHFT
Thanks for the coverage!
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 21, 2008, 06:40 PM NHFT
other people were gambling
... by eating burritos
... we also were gambling with our lives .... there were cops present ... the only murder in our area last year was by a cop
... and dangerous rays from outerspace

I was playing it safe. I was out in the sun only half the time. I ate a great salad and I stayed away from the cops. :)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: dalebert on April 21, 2008, 07:53 PM NHFT
other people were gambling
... by eating burritos
... we also were gambling with our lives .... there were cops present ... the only murder in our area last year was by a cop
... and dangerous rays from outerspace

I was playing it safe. I was out in the sun only half the time. I ate a great salad and I stayed away from the cops. :)

Yeah, speaking of that, both your salads and Ian's Chinese food looked more appetizing than the burrito I got at Armadillo's. It wasn't horrible, but it was kind of dry and boring and that place has been really slow both times I've gone there. Next time I'll know better. I'm giving Armadillo's a thumbs down. My fault too because I pressed for Mexican food and the other other Mexican place was the one that pushed for the smoking ban so we couldn't eat there.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: FTL_Ian on April 21, 2008, 08:06 PM NHFT
Next time go with Kings Garden Chinese or Amicci's Pizza
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on April 22, 2008, 11:58 AM NHFT
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc.   ;D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: ReverendRyan on April 22, 2008, 01:35 PM NHFT
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc.   ;D

I thought you were opposed to torture.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: Puke on April 22, 2008, 03:40 PM NHFT
Taco Bell is the best!
 ;D
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: TackleTheWorld on April 22, 2008, 03:57 PM NHFT
Taco Bell=  cheap, fast, beany goodness
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 23, 2008, 10:57 AM NHFT

Yeah, speaking of that, both your salads and Ian's Chinese food looked more appetizing than the burrito I got at Armadillo's. It wasn't horrible, but it was kind of dry and boring and that place has been really slow both times I've gone there. Next time I'll know better. I'm giving Armadillo's a thumbs down. My fault too because I pressed for Mexican food and the other other Mexican place was the one that pushed for the smoking ban so we couldn't eat there.


Dale! How DARE you berate my favorite burrito joint??! :o     ... ;D

Seriously though, I absolutely love their steak burrito... though I have noticed that it is considerably tastier when certain employees make it, than others. Unfortunately, the "good" ones were not on duty last Saturday. And of course they were slow -- they were coping with an endless line of hungry folks from the two coinciding festivals taking place right outside their door.

...and don't forget, Armadillos is the only restaurant in town that displays a large NHfree poster in the men's room! :)

Therefore, I hereby cancel out your thumbs down with my own thumbs up... as a happy repeat customer of Armadillos! ;D 8)
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: David on April 23, 2008, 10:59 AM NHFT
Not a mexican food eater, so I cant second what srqrebel is saying, but they do have an NHfree poster there.   :D 
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc.   ;D

I thought you were opposed to torture.
Absolutely, that is why I suggested it.  I like chicken, and you and Dale can get what Lauren calls 'beany goodness'. 
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: dalebert on April 23, 2008, 06:05 PM NHFT
Absolutely, that is why I suggested it.  I like chicken, and you and Dale can get what Lauren calls 'beany goodness'. 

Yep. Next time I'm in town, I'll have to treat myself to some beany goodness with the pleasure of Puke and Lauren's company.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: ReverendRyan on April 23, 2008, 06:06 PM NHFT
Not a mexican food eater, so I cant second what srqrebel is saying, but they do have an NHfree poster there.   :D 
We do have a taco bell...in the same building as a kfc.   ;D

I thought you were opposed to torture.
Absolutely, that is why I suggested it.  I like chicken, and you and Dale can get what Lauren calls 'beany goodness'. 

Taco Bell is not food.
Title: Re: Keene Freedom Fest: Spring 2008 - 4/19, Noon-3p, Railroad Sq.
Post by: srqrebel on April 24, 2008, 12:33 PM NHFT
Taco Bell is not food.

 ;D ;D ;D