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Title: FEMA Camps
Post by: MTPorcupine3 on March 07, 2008, 07:51 AM NHFT
This article lists FEMA camps, including one in Northern New Hampshire "near Lake Francis". Anyone know about this?

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1062
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 07, 2008, 07:55 AM NHFT
Maybe look at google earth and see if you can find it?
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Puke on March 07, 2008, 03:44 PM NHFT
Maybe look at google earth and see if you can find it?

Google Earth data can be several years old. It would be cool  if it was real time, but not at this time.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 08, 2008, 03:40 AM NHFT
Lake Francis (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=45.041023,-71.329765&ie=UTF8&ll=45.041023,-71.329765&spn=0.07678,0.146942&t=h&z=13). That’s up in Coos County, and pretty damned remote.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 08, 2008, 10:38 PM NHFT
you know, i have never actually heard much in the way of independent cooroboration regarding the existence and nature of these camps.   

can anyone point me to some mainstream media articles or government statements on government websites?   
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Tom Ploszaj on March 09, 2008, 12:11 AM NHFT
Humm … interesting news. .  We heard about FEMA camps as part of conspiracy theories so I'll continue with that thought now that MTP… found where someone claimed there’s one in NH.    Maybe after some research a road trip should be planned (not during black fly season), fall and winter would give best viewing opportunities.

Now why would FEMA put a camp in the Northern Kingdom, Fort Drum, NY and one in Houlton, Me all on Canadian borders?   Almost in Canada, eha?   
A good place for internment of Canadians?  Naw, no where near that many “Free Thinking” Canadians, except maybe the French Canadians?  Most likely staging areas before moving US citizens into Canadian camps. 
Curious if there are any camps mentioned nearby in Canada that could hold US citizens?  FEMA may expected some US citizens to mobilize to help internees but Canadians could not mobilize for fear of missing a hockey playoff and less chance of Canadian troops being sympathetic to the US internees.
Are there any known Free Stater types in that area? 
Does NH towns have aerial maps in the land offices
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 09, 2008, 05:17 AM NHFT
you know, i have never actually heard much in the way of independent cooroboration regarding the existence and nature of these camps.   

can anyone point me to some mainstream media articles or government statements on government websites?   

When I was searching for information on Lake Francis, I found one page that referred to the camp as a “(Renovated?) WWII detention camp.” So I tried this search:—

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22lake+francis%22+%22detention+camp%22

More than a thousand results come up. Then I tried looking for pages mentioning this detention camp, but not mentioning the FEMA connection:—

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%22lake+francis%22+%22detention+camp%22+-FEMA

Nothing.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: MTPorcupine3 on March 09, 2008, 09:57 PM NHFT

Now why would FEMA put a camp in the Northern Kingdom, Fort Drum, NY and one in Houlton, Me all on Canadian borders?   Almost in Canada, eha?   
A good place for internment of Canadians?  Naw, no where near that many “Free Thinking” Canadians, except maybe the French Canadians?  Most likely staging areas before moving US citizens into Canadian camps. 
Curious if there are any camps mentioned nearby in Canada that could hold US citizens?  FEMA may expected some US citizens to mobilize to help internees but Canadians could not mobilize for fear of missing a hockey playoff and less chance of Canadian troops being sympathetic to the US internees.
Are there any known Free Stater types in that area? 
Does NH towns have aerial maps in the land offices


You don't think Canadians are a threat? Obviously you haven't seen Michael Moore's film, "Canadian Bacon". I recommend it.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Pat K on March 09, 2008, 10:24 PM NHFT
Get the shirt now.

(http://www.flatwurks.com/fema.gif)
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 10, 2008, 06:52 AM NHFT
you know, i have never actually heard much in the way of independent cooroboration regarding the existence and nature of these camps.  

can anyone point me to some mainstream media articles or government statements on government websites?  
the mainstream media and government of ww2 germany didn't write stories about their camps ... but they were still there
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 20, 2008, 02:16 AM NHFT
I randomly came across the entry on Stark, New Hampshire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark%2C_New_Hampshire) on Wikipedia today, and this stood out:—

Quote
World War II POW Camp

In early 1944, the remains of a former Civilian Conservation Corps Camp in Stark was transformed to hold about 250 German POWs. This was the only WWII POW camp located in New Hampshire. Most of the men in the camp did hard labor in the nearby forests, supplying wood for the nearby paper mills. Some of the prisoners remained in the United States after the war ended and the camp closed in 1946.

“(Renovated?) WWII detention camp,” anyone?

According to this (http://www.newhampshire.com/historical-markers/camp-stark.aspx), it’s located on the south side of Route 110, about 1.6 miles east of the Stark Covered Bridge.

Point B here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=18271659703648000089,44.600628,-71.407549%3B7990369303218034154,44.617814,-71.391006&saddr=44.600628,-71.407549&daddr=44.618302,-71.388946&sll=44.618302,-71.388946&sspn=0.009668,0.018368&ie=UTF8&ll=44.61259,-71.38813&spn=0.038677,0.073471&t=k&z=14) appears to be that location, more or less.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: malcolm on March 20, 2008, 04:06 AM NHFT
I randomly came across the entry on Stark, New Hampshire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stark%2C_New_Hampshire) on Wikipedia today, and this stood out:—

Quote
World War II POW Camp

In early 1944, the remains of a former Civilian Conservation Corps Camp in Stark was transformed to hold about 250 German POWs. This was the only WWII POW camp located in New Hampshire. Most of the men in the camp did hard labor in the nearby forests, supplying wood for the nearby paper mills. Some of the prisoners remained in the United States after the war ended and the camp closed in 1946.

“(Renovated?) WWII detention camp,” anyone?

According to this (http://www.newhampshire.com/historical-markers/camp-stark.aspx), it’s located on the south side of Route 110, about 1.6 miles east of the Stark Covered Bridge.

Point B here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=18271659703648000089,44.600628,-71.407549%3B7990369303218034154,44.617814,-71.391006&saddr=44.600628,-71.407549&daddr=44.618302,-71.388946&sll=44.618302,-71.388946&sspn=0.009668,0.018368&ie=UTF8&ll=44.61259,-71.38813&spn=0.038677,0.073471&t=k&z=14) appears to be that location, more or less.

Looks like nothing to me.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: KBCraig on March 20, 2008, 05:04 AM NHFT
“(Renovated?) WWII detention camp,” anyone?

According to this (http://www.newhampshire.com/historical-markers/camp-stark.aspx), it’s located on the south side of Route 110, about 1.6 miles east of the Stark Covered Bridge.

Point B here (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=18271659703648000089,44.600628,-71.407549%3B7990369303218034154,44.617814,-71.391006&saddr=44.600628,-71.407549&daddr=44.618302,-71.388946&sll=44.618302,-71.388946&sspn=0.009668,0.018368&ie=UTF8&ll=44.61259,-71.38813&spn=0.038677,0.073471&t=k&z=14) appears to be that location, more or less.

That site was for sale as a hunting camp in the last couple of years. One of the Berlin realtors had it listed. There was only one building left, which had been converted into a (very ramshackle) hunting cabin.


Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: JimmyCracka on October 14, 2008, 01:09 AM NHFT
I must say. There has been documented testimony of welders who welded shackles in these three/four teir high UN trains. Some swear they have seen modern day "guillotines" at the ends of these trains. All the reports of these and the FEMA camps. The millions of plastic burial vaults they are finding all over the country on FEMA leased properties. We don't need to see one in NH. You know they can throw these things up fast. Some fence, some tent style buildings and some guards you got yourself a concentration camp in a matter of days. i think we can all agree, this shit is real. It seems we have a Nazi type gov on our hands!
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: K. Darien Freeheart on October 14, 2008, 02:31 AM NHFT
I strongly doubt the US Government people are creating secret camps to murder people. I'm not sure if this is a "good" thing or a "bad" thing but when a federal panel of judges can say the words "All federal authority to detain these people has ended" and within an hour, they're permanent residents of Gitmo again...

No, the US government, if it were interested in offing large numbers of people, is moving closer and closer to the point where they'd not do it "secretly".
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: doobie on October 14, 2008, 06:46 AM NHFT
Sounds like a road trip time...
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on October 16, 2008, 11:05 AM NHFT
Sounds like a road trip time...

To where?  :-\   

 This concentration camp stuff scares the heck out of me and the only thing I can suggest is to stay away from, "possibly coming", food lines, mass vaccination places, etc.   I think self sufficiency is the way to go, oh yeah and firearms.  :) 
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on January 08, 2009, 01:54 AM NHFT
Dan Itse found this (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=44.755023,-71.4077&sll=44.755023,-71.4077&sspn=0.309627,0.563049&ie=UTF8&ll=44.755023,-71.4077&spn=0.038703,0.070381&t=h&z=14). It’s in the middle of nowhere (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=44.755023,-71.4077&sll=44.755023,-71.4077&sspn=0.309627,0.563049&ie=UTF8&ll=44.755023,-71.4077&spn=0.309627,0.563049&z=11&g=44.755023,-71.4077&iwloc=addr) in a place called Odell, New Hampshire, situated between routes 3, 26, 16, and 110. Apparently all the roads leading to it are dirt. And according to him, it wasn’t there a few years ago.

Terraserver imagery (http://www.terraserver.com/view.asp?cx=309376.014088653&cy=4958463.5511869&proj=32619&mpp=0.75&pic=-1&prov=-1&stac=-1&styp=CO).
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: AntonLee on January 08, 2009, 06:05 AM NHFT
that's kinda screwed up, what could that possibly be?
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: error on January 08, 2009, 12:10 PM NHFT
I seem to recall that being posted before, and Lloyd or someone else saying it was a logging operation.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on January 08, 2009, 12:26 PM NHFT
Not me.  It could be part of Nash Stream State Forrest which is near there.  I'm trying to find a map of the forest.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on January 08, 2009, 12:47 PM NHFT
(http://www.wildlifejournal.tv/wild_places_images/GRANIT_Nash_Stream_SF.jpg)
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on January 08, 2009, 12:54 PM NHFT
The town of Odell seems to be either in the park or along the eastern border. Odells L&L are 44.74 N  & 71.38W so I believe the area in question is east of the park.  Someone check me on this.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on January 08, 2009, 01:04 PM NHFT
I couldn't find a phone book for Odell, but, here is the closest provider.  Someone could contact them and ask what that site is.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on January 08, 2009, 01:18 PM NHFT
It looks like nice trees and such.  Maybe someone should take a road trip there from Porcfest :)
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: AntonLee on January 08, 2009, 02:09 PM NHFT
the Porcupine Investigation Crew or PIC if you like fancy acronyms
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: William on January 08, 2009, 02:58 PM NHFT
It looks like nice trees and such.  Maybe someone should take a road trip there from Porcfest :)

I was discussing this with Jeremy last night. If no one has by then, we'll head out and put an eyeball on it. Should make for a good day trip.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: KBCraig on January 09, 2009, 02:23 AM NHFT
I seem to recall that one of our Porc private pilots flew up and took a look the last time this came up. It was a logging operation. The logged areas are square-ish, resembling a checkerboard of logged and unlogged areas. That's typical of "small patch clear-cut" operations, typically required by environmental regs that forbid clear-cutting over a certain acreage, without uncut intervening acreage.

Odell seems to have a population of approximately 5. Sounds good to me!  8)
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on February 02, 2009, 02:32 PM NHFT
It looks like nice trees and such.  Maybe someone should take a road trip there from Porcfest :)

Sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on February 09, 2009, 07:04 PM NHFT
I couldn't find a phone book for Odell, but, here is the closest provider.  Someone could contact them and ask what that site is.


Is Odell anywhere near Gorham?  I'm going there next week, I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to do this but at least I could think about it and maybe drive there. :-\
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: firecracker joe on February 10, 2009, 06:41 PM NHFT
ive been out there 4 wheelin in the early 90's  fun place to get lost but never saw any buildings  great place for 4 wheeling though or camping and we went in from columbia  its a ablast out there if you wanna get away from the peeps and flat landers.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on February 11, 2009, 11:43 PM NHFT
I couldn't find a phone book for Odell, but, here is the closest provider.  Someone could contact them and ask what that site is.


Is Odell anywhere near Gorham?  I'm going there next week, I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to do this but at least I could think about it and maybe drive there. :-\

If it is something, probably not a good idea. At some point a team of people will be going up, at PorcFest if not sooner.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: cxxguy on February 27, 2009, 10:03 PM NHFT
I must say. There has been documented testimony of welders who welded shackles in these three/four teir high UN trains. Some swear they have seen modern day "guillotines" at the ends of these trains. All the reports of these and the FEMA camps. The millions of plastic burial vaults they are finding all over the country on FEMA leased properties. We don't need to see one in NH. You know they can throw these things up fast. Some fence, some tent style buildings and some guards you got yourself a concentration camp in a matter of days. i think we can all agree, this shit is real. It seems we have a Nazi type gov on our hands!

The fact that one could build a concentration camp quickly does not, for me, support the conclusion that we have a Nazi type government on our hands.  Ask yourself this:  if we did not  have a Nazi type government on our hands, would the laws of physics change to make it harder to build such a camp?
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Tom Sawyer on February 27, 2009, 10:20 PM NHFT
Why do they need to put people in camps? Most people are already slaves.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on February 28, 2009, 07:17 AM NHFT
Why lock you up and have to feed you when they can leave things as they are and continue milking you as you provide your own shelter and food?
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on February 28, 2009, 07:22 AM NHFT
I also can't figure out why the Berganstocker/Bony Skull/CFR/Rothchild crowd.......you know.......the ones who have been in daily contact running their conspiracy for three generations.......want to kill 85% of the people.
That's what I've been hearing.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Kat Kanning on February 28, 2009, 06:04 PM NHFT
Rothchilds probably just have PMS.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on March 01, 2009, 11:09 AM NHFT
I couldn't find a phone book for Odell, but, here is the closest provider.  Someone could contact them and ask what that site is.


Is Odell anywhere near Gorham?  I'm going there next week, I'm not sure if I'm brave enough to do this but at least I could think about it and maybe drive there. :-\

If it is something, probably not a good idea. At some point a team of people will be going up, at PorcFest if not sooner.

Yeah, your probably right, thanks!  I could totally see me chickening out as I got closer to "the spot" anyway.  :P
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on March 01, 2009, 11:11 AM NHFT
Why lock you up and have to feed you when they can leave things as they are and continue milking you as you provide your own shelter and food?
:-\

Good point!   The only thing I can think of is maybe they want to eat us, like in the War of the Worlds movie?  :-\
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on March 01, 2009, 11:12 AM NHFT
Rothchilds probably just have PMS.


 ;D
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: sergeant Possum on March 02, 2009, 05:04 PM NHFT
I must say. There has been documented testimony of welders who welded shackles in these three/four teir high UN trains. Some swear they have seen modern day "guillotines" at the ends of these trains. All the reports of these and the FEMA camps. The millions of plastic burial vaults they are finding all over the country on FEMA leased properties. We don't need to see one in NH. You know they can throw these things up fast. Some fence, some tent style buildings and some guards you got yourself a concentration camp in a matter of days. i think we can all agree, this shit is real. It seems we have a Nazi type gov on our hands!

Just exactly where can one find this "documented testimony of welders"? And where are these "UN trains"? Trains are pretty big, and there aren't that many places where you can hide them. Even while stored, they require regular maintenance. So who is doing the work on them?
As to the "millions of plastic burial vaults" there was a video taken in Georgia that purported to show "125 thousand FEMA coffins". Actually they were 50,000 molded plastic burial vaults that were owned...not by FEMA, but by a company that provided them to funeral homes. Every day, trucks would load up several dozen of the things and head out across the southern states to deliver them to funeral homes and cemeteries. I wouldn't be suprised to find that there are similar commercial operations in many areas of the country. After all, everybody dies, and most people are buried rather than cremated. So it stands to reason that there would be a pretty big market for these molded plastic grave liners. They're probably a lot cheaper to make and transport than the cast concrete ones that have been in use for many years.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: shyfrog on March 03, 2009, 09:50 AM NHFT
The FEMA camp conspiracy theorists have pointed out two camps in Utah. I know where both of them are and have visited them.

1. Renovated WWII Japanese Internment Camp in Millard County near Topaz Mountain.

I took my kids there to visit this rebuilt replica of one building where they housed Japanese-Americans during WWII.
They had a great time and learned a lot about stupid moments in US History.
Topaz Mountain was much more entertaining however as we found lots of Topaz, Amethyst, and other shiny, pretty things.

2. The Dump

A big net catches debris from the dump as the winds whip across the lake. The net, from a distance, looks like a giant barb-wire fence. Not a nice place to hike however. Smelly and not very pretty.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: KBCraig on March 05, 2009, 02:02 PM NHFT
The most likely location is at Google coordinates:   45° 0'45.76"N,  71°30'29.56"W  You won't need any fancy equipment to find this one.

The reason for this choice should be obvious:

  1.  It is right on the Canadian border.  The north edge of the NH clearing is the Canadian border.
  2.  There is another clearing within walking distance on the Canadian side, perfect for over flows, or to move detainees from one side of the border to the other to avoid detection by inspectors from either nation.
  3.  It is at the end of a rail head.  (To see railroad tracks in Google Earth v.5, go to "Layers>Places of Interest>Transportation>Rail" and check the box.)
  4.  There is a building complex between the railroad track and the clearing, suitable for processing large numbers of people.
  5.  There is area-wide visibility, perfect for eventual guard towers and policing activities.

Okay, but don't give up your day job.
 1. The clearing is a couple of acres. Hardly what you'd look for if you wanted to stash hundreds of people.
 2. It's right in a village (Beecher Falls) where people live and work (that "building complex" is an Ethan Allen furniture factory).
 3. That rail line was dismantled a long time ago.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Free libertarian on March 06, 2009, 08:22 AM NHFT
 There are lots of moose in Pittsburgh. Maybe the moose know where the camps are? Now, if we could only find a moose translator.... wait a minute... maybe the moose are in on it! :P
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Pat K on March 06, 2009, 04:23 PM NHFT
There are lots of moose in Pittsburgh. Maybe the moose know where the camps are? Now, if we could only find a moose translator.... wait a minute... maybe the moose are in on it! :P


Moose are fearsome enforcers for the state.

(http://reparent.blog.uvm.edu/images/funny-pictures-moose-cop.jpg)
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Bald Eagle on March 06, 2009, 11:07 PM NHFT
Uh, are they doing some secret Moose Dance that I haven't found out about?
Is it like a secret handshake?

Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on March 15, 2009, 03:34 PM NHFT
There are lots of moose in Pittsburgh. Maybe the moose know where the camps are? Now, if we could only find a moose translator.... wait a minute... maybe the moose are in on it! :P


Moose are fearsome enforcers for the state.

(http://reparent.blog.uvm.edu/images/funny-pictures-moose-cop.jpg)



 :biglaugh:
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: k03045 on November 13, 2010, 06:35 PM NHFT
The camp you are speaking about was called CAMP STARK GERMAN PRISONER OF WAR CAMP.  It was Located on the south side of Route 110, about 1.6 miles east of the Stark Covered Bridge.  However this camp was made out of wood & housed 250 German war time prisoners.  The only thing left is an Historical Marker Number: 150.  So i dint think this is the location, but Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is a huge place & i am still looking for camp FEMA.
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: AntonLee on November 15, 2010, 02:21 PM NHFT
I will ride my moose into camp and free the prisoners
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: RichMattos on December 31, 2011, 08:48 PM NHFT
Their is  afederal Prison up here in Coos County-Berlin,NH that is slated to be opened this Spring (Just sighned off by Obama) They say its a Federal Prison!

Figures-I move up to the North Country with my Family from massachusettes to get out of the corruption down their and here about all of the Federal Corruption going on such a Huge Scale!

Jesse Venture has a few youtube videos that are pretty good relating to this:
USA - FEMA Camps - Police State - PART 2 of 3 ( Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jruJ40xT8kQ#ws)

Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on January 30, 2012, 03:27 PM NHFT
I will ride my moose into camp and free the prisoners

Wow, it's been so long since I've been on here, I almost forgot my password.  :-\

I feel safer now AntonLee  :)
Title: Re: FEMA Camps
Post by: Raineyrocks on January 30, 2012, 03:29 PM NHFT
Their is  afederal Prison up here in Coos County-Berlin,NH that is slated to be opened this Spring (Just sighned off by Obama) They say its a Federal Prison!

Figures-I move up to the North Country with my Family from massachusettes to get out of the corruption down their and here about all of the Federal Corruption going on such a Huge Scale!

Jesse Venture has a few youtube videos that are pretty good relating to this:
USA - FEMA Camps - Police State - PART 2 of 3 ( Conspiracy Theory with Jesse Ventura ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jruJ40xT8kQ#ws)

Just freakin' wonderful  ::) and this is what I'm scared of the most.  Sure, I probably have an underground base full of freaking reptillians right next to where I live too.  :P