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New Hampshire Underground => Voluntaryism/Anarchism => Topic started by: dalebert on March 22, 2008, 10:04 PM NHFT

Title: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 22, 2008, 10:04 PM NHFT
I've been working on a new logo for the Anarchy In Your Head site. The first one where the top of the head breaks into four pieces was closer to my original concept. The second one is a simpler one that I decided to try. This will be an image at the top of my website and perhaps on gear. Which do you like best? Do you have suggestions for changes? Keep in mind that it's a logo so I don't want it to get too complex.

(http://anarchyinyourhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/aiyh_symbol_4.png)(http://anarchyinyourhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/aiyh_symbol_1.png)
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 22, 2008, 10:22 PM NHFT
I like the quartered one better.

Although I’m not so sure about the head itself—the dead, mannequin-like appearance made me think of the people from this dystopian movie (http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002CHIKG.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg). Of course, I’m not sure if that’s actually your goal—that you’re “waking up” people in such a zombie-like state or somesuch.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: ReverendRyan on March 22, 2008, 10:26 PM NHFT
I like the quartered one, but I would like it better if the pieces were kind of "exploded" farther away revealing some kinda anarchy emblem inside the head.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Jim Johnson on March 22, 2008, 10:29 PM NHFT
quartered one   :)
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: kola on March 22, 2008, 10:57 PM NHFT
it kinda looks like a crash test dummy...a bit lifeless.

give it some life and put a smile on him/her.

kola
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 22, 2008, 11:03 PM NHFT
Although I’m not so sure about the head itself—the dead, mannequin-like appearance made me think of the people from this dystopian movie (http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B0002CHIKG.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg). Of course, I’m not sure if that’s actually your goal—that you’re “waking up” people in such a zombie-like state or somesuch.

The reason it's mannequin-like is because it's a logo and it works with the no hair look. The expression is supposed to look sort of serene and peaceful like someone in meditation. I'll see about a smile though. I think that might look better.

Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: kola on March 22, 2008, 11:07 PM NHFT
maybe because it has no eyes..that could be why it looks kinda lifeless.

Kola
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 22, 2008, 11:08 PM NHFT
maybe because it has no eyes..that could be why it looks kinda lifeless.

—was just writing that as your post appeared. ;D
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 22, 2008, 11:17 PM NHFT
maybe because it has no eyes..that could be why it looks kinda lifeless.

Well that is kind of by design. The light is shining out through the eye openings. I suppose I could make eyes there and make them mostly transparent.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 22, 2008, 11:32 PM NHFT
Well, this is getting further from my conception but maybe it's for the best. What do you think of this one?

UPDATE: I added another version with more solid iris and pupils. I think that one's better. It still has light shining through the whites of the eyes.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Jim Johnson on March 22, 2008, 11:45 PM NHFT
Well, this is getting further from my conception but maybe it's for the best. What do you think of this one?


The knowing smile is better.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on March 22, 2008, 11:49 PM NHFT
Cool, I just saw it in your banner ad here on NH Free.

Smile is better, as are the pupils added to the eyes.

Perhaps thicken the outlines in the scaled-down version so they match with the width of the Anarchy in Your Head text outline?
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: ReverendRyan on March 23, 2008, 12:18 AM NHFT
I like it better without the eyes. And like I said, I'd move the broken quarters further out revealing an anarchy symbol.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Puke on March 23, 2008, 08:00 AM NHFT
I'd say no to the pupils. That looks really creepy. The first looked like it was smiling to me.

I like Ryan's suggestion of a symbol inside the head. Although I don't know how well that will look really small in a logo?
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 23, 2008, 10:26 AM NHFT
I feel the anarchy symbol will just detract. First, it's redundant because there's one in my logo already. Second, it'll be severley occluded by head chunks if it's large and hard to see if it's small. Third, I really like the glowing light inside. It's representative of the serenity that comes from a peaceful outlook on human interaction. I think the symbol will just detract from that. Believe me when I say it was one of my first thoughts. I've been planning to make this logo since I got the idea for the site but it kept getting de-prioritized. I'm finally getting around to it because I've gotten better and a little faster at drawing and for once, I was right on schedule with the cartoon. I actually got it in early on Friday which is the goal. Usually they're not up until the evening. It paid off too. I don't usually see much traffic until the day after a new toon but the site got record traffic for an "opening" day.

As for the pupils, that's tougher. I really envisioned him all along as having no pupils and looking kind of other-worldly. When several people expressed discomfort (?) with that, I experimented with them and the version I have now kind of grew on me. Maybe I just kind of wanted to like it. *shrug* And now Puke is going with my original gut instinct of him having no pupils and he's somewhat into graphic design himself so I'm really torn. I'd love to get more feedback on that choice.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: porcupine kate on March 23, 2008, 10:38 AM NHFT
I like the quartered one.  If you can get some expression in the eyes and a happier mouth the idea the anarchy is a good thing will come across.  Right now anarchy doesn't look like a goo thing.
Kate
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 23, 2008, 10:54 AM NHFT
Ok, here's the thing. I'm a little concerned about making it too human. Before long, I'll need to show bones sticking out of the broken skull and blood dripping out of the severed neck. The inspiration for this was sort of like a meditation symbol where someone is connected to a higher power. People don't have big cheesy grins on their faces while they're meditating. I'm already having second thoughts about enhancing the smile. I'm with Puke. I thought he was smiling, though faintly. I think it just doesn't show unless the image is big enough, so it doesn't show much at all in the web banner, for instance.

Then again, if I have to explain it, then maybe it just doesn't work. I don't know.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Jim Johnson on March 23, 2008, 10:57 AM NHFT
The no eyes one seems to be inward looking and engaged in thought.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Puke on March 23, 2008, 12:20 PM NHFT
Ok, here's the thing. I'm a little concerned about making it too human. Before long, I'll need to show bones sticking out of the broken skull and blood dripping out of the severed neck.

Indeed. It should be abstract, like a smiley face. No human looks like a smiley face, but we know what it represents.
In the end you should go with your gut feeling. It's your design, to many voices just makes white noise.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Jim Johnson on March 23, 2008, 12:30 PM NHFT
Ok, here's the thing. I'm a little concerned about making it too human. Before long, I'll need to show bones sticking out of the broken skull and blood dripping out of the severed neck.

Indeed. It should be abstract, like a smiley face. No human looks like a smiley face, but we know what it represents.
In the end you should go with your gut feeling. It's your design, to many voices just makes white noise.

Wait... was it going to be a cow or a dog? 
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 23, 2008, 12:32 PM NHFT
Wait... was it going to be a cow or a dog? 

Haha. I wonder who gets the reference.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 23, 2008, 01:00 PM NHFT
Indeed. It should be abstract, like a smiley face. No human looks like a smiley face, but we know what it represents.
In the end you should go with your gut feeling. It's your design, to many voices just makes white noise.

I think I'm going to take your advice. I remember when I wrote a screenplay and had a reading for feedback. A few of the people gave feedback that basically amounted to "Change the subject and write a different screenplay." At that point I had to realize that my vision just wasn't going to suit everyone's taste and that's ok. I can't create something artistically if I don't feel it myself.

Here's what I'm going with for now. I've removed the poll at FTL. Of course, knowing me, I'll change my mind again later. I took out the pupils and shortened the head a bit. I based it on a real mannequin head I found but it looked a bit asymmetrically long. I also adjusted the head pieces so they look more symmetrical. Also took out the neck which I think gives it more of a disembodied head look rather than a severed head look, which is also in line with my original vision.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Caleb on March 23, 2008, 01:03 PM NHFT
That's why I didn't want to comment on this. Art is personal. you create it for yourself, and anyone else can only observe.

fwiw, i like the old design a little better. the eyes take away the ethereal quality for me.

ok, it looks like you just posted your new one, and the eyes are gone ... so disregard what i said.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: kola on March 23, 2008, 02:44 PM NHFT
yup I always find I go back to something I picked first or my very first idea.

do what u think is best dale.

Kola
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 23, 2008, 05:09 PM NHFT
Alright, for better or for worse, I've settled on a graphic. It's also been integrated into the t-shirts and other stuph in the store. Let's hope the eyeless, soulless, nuclear-powered android head doesn't send people screaming from my site. :)

(http://anarchyinyourhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/aiyh_logo_preview.png) (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/store/)
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 23, 2008, 05:23 PM NHFT
This is the age of the expanding man...  :D
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: ReverendRyan on March 23, 2008, 06:10 PM NHFT

(http://anarchyinyourhead.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/aiyh_logo_preview.png) (http://anarchyinyourhead.com/store/)


For composition reasons, I would face the head left, toward the text, not right, off the page.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Puke on March 23, 2008, 06:29 PM NHFT
I like it.  8)
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: srqrebel on March 23, 2008, 10:29 PM NHFT
I just now saw this thread, and it looks like I might be a day late for this, but I'll suggest it anyway: How about combining the glow with the silhouette of a lightbulb? After all, isn't the idea to "set off lightbulbs" inside people's heads? ...just a thought.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 24, 2008, 10:28 PM NHFT
OK, I should have learned my lesson, but here are a couple of versions of a bumper sticker I'm going to mass order. I'm trying to lay it out well to use the space provided. There are two sizes I'm considering. The bigger one costs more of course. I figure it'll look better from far away but the smaller one will fit more things for people who don't want to put on on their car. I'm trying light gray background which seems easier on the eye but I could go back to white background.

First is 2 by 8 inches. Second is 2.5 by 9 inches.

Oh, and the sizes of the previews aren't actually proportional. I just made the second one a little bigger to give a vague idea.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 24, 2008, 10:56 PM NHFT
I wasn't happy with "Comics Weekly" so I brainstormed on the FTL chat room a bit. Ryan suggested this one which I'm liking. Is it too crowded?

UPDATE: Adding one with a different font and corrected layout.
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Landon Jeffery on March 24, 2008, 11:13 PM NHFT
I'll be sure to buy one from you at Porc Fest!
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: Tom Sawyer on March 25, 2008, 12:01 AM NHFT
Like the slogan.  :D 8)
Title: Re: Requesting your feedback please
Post by: dalebert on March 25, 2008, 12:07 AM NHFT
OK, so I got enough feedback in the chatroom and I'm going with basically the third version. Kudos to Ryan for a really catchy slogan that's now going to end up on all those products in the store now as well. I should have these stickers within a couple of weeks.

BTW, Kat referred me to liberty stickers and after shopping around a bit, they had the best prices.

libertystickers.com

and actually the custom site that you'll get referred to is thebumpersticker.com