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Regional Discussion => The Shire => Topic started by: Russell Kanning on April 27, 2008, 08:07 PM NHFT

Title: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 27, 2008, 08:07 PM NHFT
We were brainstorming at Vendetta's in Keene tonight. The idea came up of some sort of State of The Shire celebration outside the NH state house to show our extremist ideas. :)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 27, 2008, 08:10 PM NHFT
Many of us could show up and act out our parts based on the playing cards.

I could go as the Cardinal. James Schnurgenberger will wear a monicle. Kat will have to get a new one.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: JJ on April 27, 2008, 08:12 PM NHFT
Indeed I have been informed that my presence is requested on behalf of the elite members of society.  It is likely that my speech will be written for me as I am merely a mouthpiece for my powerful masters.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: ReverendRyan on April 27, 2008, 08:15 PM NHFT
Awwww,

I left my vestments in Texas.

(That almost sounds like the title to a bad country song, no?)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 27, 2008, 08:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: jjschless on April 27, 2008, 08:12 PM NHFT
Indeed I have been informed that my presence is requested on behalf of the elite members of society.  It is likely that my speech will be written from me as I am merely a mouthpiece for of powerful masters.

Schnergenberger!
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 27, 2008, 08:19 PM NHFT
who is the ruler of the shire?
Is he ruling in exile somewhere or is he on the royal yacht?
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: JJ on April 27, 2008, 08:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on April 27, 2008, 08:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: jjschless on April 27, 2008, 08:12 PM NHFT
Indeed I have been informed that my presence is requested on behalf of the elite members of society.  It is likely that my speech will be written from me as I am merely a mouthpiece for of powerful masters.

Schnergenberger!

Silence peon you wouldn't have half of what you do if not for the benevolent grace and generosity of our most kind masters.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: ReverendRyan on April 27, 2008, 08:22 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on April 27, 2008, 08:19 PM NHFT
who is the ruler of the shire?
Is he ruling in exile somewhere or is he on the royal yacht?

We're an anarcho-capitalist commune!
We take it in turn to act as a sort of executive officer for the week.....
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Caleb on April 27, 2008, 08:26 PM NHFT
I am close to a breakthrough with this Schnergenberger conspiracy. I now know how they managed to obscure their lineage.

The pieces have almost completely come together....
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 27, 2008, 08:33 PM NHFT
Quote from: jjschless on April 27, 2008, 08:21 PM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on April 27, 2008, 08:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: jjschless on April 27, 2008, 08:12 PM NHFT
Indeed I have been informed that my presence is requested on behalf of the elite members of society.  It is likely that my speech will be written from me as I am merely a mouthpiece for of powerful masters.

Schnergenberger!

Silence peon you wouldn't have half of what you do if not for the benevolent grace and generosity of our most kind masters.

Good dialog...  ;D

(Oh wait, I'm supposed to respond in character)
The Schnergenberger's will never silence me! Just wait until Caleb reveils all he has documented about you and your ilk!
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Jim Johnson on April 27, 2008, 08:35 PM NHFT
I'm going to need a rubber knife... or one that's beer flavored.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Caleb on April 27, 2008, 10:37 PM NHFT
I fear for my life, so I will post some information to hopefully set people on the right track, in the event of my death.

http://www.scharffenberger.com/  notice the illuminati crest: The Satanic Ram on top of the three Pyramids. Can there be any doubt that this is the American line of the Schnergenberger's, with the name slightly changed to throw us off the track?

also see how they mock us, by flaunting their chocolate conspiracy in their illimunati and satanic ritual show, Buffy the Vampire Slayer ... http://www.buffyguide.com/episodes/bandcandy.shtml

Here's a link to the Lindt branch of the Schnergenberger's showing their complicity: http://www.theendoftheuniverse.ca/node/20


None of your chocolate is safe people!  Please!  Don't panic! Just send me your chocolate, and I will safely dispose of it for you.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Jim Johnson on April 27, 2008, 10:56 PM NHFT
I want some of that chocolate. 

If JJ can get us some of that chocolate... we could study the properties... and ya know... learn... more about the Schnergenburgers... is that possible JJ?

Caleb, you missed the most excellent chocolate chip cookies that Kim Possible made the other morning.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Caleb on April 27, 2008, 11:01 PM NHFT
Mmmmmmmm. chocolate chip cookies.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Radical_Teen on April 27, 2008, 11:25 PM NHFT
It's true I did made cookies. I wish you were here Caleb to have one, everyone says there really good.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on April 28, 2008, 07:06 AM NHFT
Raw Cookies?
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 28, 2008, 07:11 AM NHFT
We figure all of us in The Shire are part of the royal family.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Puke on April 28, 2008, 03:16 PM NHFT
The Bishop!


I can see Russell doing this.  :D
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: David on April 28, 2008, 04:50 PM NHFT
Radical Teen?  Kira, I presume?  Your signiture should make your folks proud.   ;)

It is fitting that the Shire region have its own subforum.  The Shire has really morphed from a joke, to the name for the independence desire that was first written about a year or two ago by Caleb and Tracy. 
Good job guys.   :)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 28, 2008, 04:52 PM NHFT
Wow, I hadn't seen it.  :blush:
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Raineyrocks on April 30, 2008, 08:09 PM NHFT
Quote from: Radical_Teen on April 27, 2008, 11:25 PM NHFT
It's true I did made cookies. I wish you were here Caleb to have one, everyone says there really good.
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 28, 2008, 07:06 AM NHFT
Raw Cookies?

I believe you Kira aka Radical Teen! :D  Did you use dates and carob powder?  I love putting Brazil nuts and cinnamon in the blender with a little bit of water and then dehydrating them, there are so good.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 30, 2008, 08:10 PM NHFT
No, she was using nestle chocolate chips and real sugar.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Raineyrocks on April 30, 2008, 08:14 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on April 30, 2008, 08:10 PM NHFT
No, she was using nestle chocolate chips and real sugar.

Oh!  Heck those are even better! :D
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on May 04, 2008, 07:57 PM NHFT
maybe this idea will never turn into anything .... we will just continue our shire activities in secret :)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: SethCohn on May 04, 2008, 08:45 PM NHFT
Quote from: David on April 28, 2008, 04:50 PM NHFT
It is fitting that the Shire region have its own subforum.  The Shire has really morphed from a joke, to the name for the independence desire that was first written about a year or two ago by Caleb and Tracy. 

Not to make a big deal of it, but "the Shire" name was coined by Chris (http://www.freestateproject.org/community/guestbook/shire.php) (with some input from me), way back in 2004, and was never really a 'joke' and was always used in a manner mean to invoke a free place.  Caleb and Tracy and others picked on the term, to mean more specific places (Keene-ish), or more specific freedoms, but others have continued to call ALL of NH the Shire, and nor limiting it to independence or apolitical meanings.

Speaking as a Schnergenberger, this is quite definitive.

(and for those who were paying attention: SCoHN = Schn(ergenberger) the truth is out there, right?)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Caleb on May 04, 2008, 09:00 PM NHFT
Not to nitpick, but David didn't say that Tracy and I began the use of the word shire, he said that we started the Independence thing, which he apparently felt articulated a concept of independence that predated the use of the word shire. I don't think he was right on that, by the way, because for one the two ideas are different, and for two, I think the use of Tolkien's imagery for freedom concepts goes back quite a bit more than any of us.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: SethCohn on May 04, 2008, 09:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on May 04, 2008, 09:00 PM NHFT
Not to nitpick, but David didn't say that Tracy and I began the use of the word shire,

I didn't say he did... did I? He did say "started as a joke" which is what I was commenting on, for one, and that it's 'morphed' to mean something else.

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I think the use of Tolkien's imagery for freedom concepts goes back quite a bit more than any of us.

Agreed.  As the recent Tolkien anarchy thread proved.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: David on May 04, 2008, 11:08 PM NHFT
I stand corrected.   :)
I have heard the shire as a referense mostly as western nh, keene up to grafton, over to parts of vermont.  Of course, this referense was spoken by various folks in those areas, and I am not in the eastern part of the state much at all these days. 
Either way, Ryans idea of a anarcho-capitalist commune is cool.   ;D
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on May 05, 2008, 06:28 AM NHFT
Quote from: David on May 04, 2008, 11:08 PM NHFT
I stand corrected.   :)
I have heard the shire as a referense mostly as western nh, keene up to grafton, over to parts of vermont.
The Shire takes territory every day, since it expands when people join it. I don't know where its boundaries are. I know for sure it takes in Hobbiton (Covering Canaan, Grafton and parts of other towns) to the North and "Winchester of the Shire" to the South. It ventures into small parts of Vermont and has taken territory as far East as Little Minnesota and possibly Seabrook.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 06, 2008, 02:05 PM NHFT
The only boundaries of the Shire are in your mind, if any.

8)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Pat K on May 06, 2008, 02:15 PM NHFT
(http://vnmedia.ign.com/lotrovault.ign.com/fms/images/maps/14/1173902061_fullres.jpg)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Puke on May 06, 2008, 03:05 PM NHFT
 8)
Here there be Hobbits.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Raineyrocks on May 06, 2008, 04:43 PM NHFT
That is really neat Pat! :D
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on May 06, 2008, 06:14 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 06, 2008, 02:05 PM NHFT
The only boundaries of the Shire are in your mind, if any.

8)
and in the minds of others .... obviously not you. I have been to many parts of The Shire. I have met many residents. It is very real.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 06, 2008, 09:27 PM NHFT
Yes, but odds are good that if you have boundaries, the Shire will be more difficult to see.  Like the billboards in "Interstate 60"...
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: SamIam on May 06, 2008, 09:56 PM NHFT
ALRIGHT!! That's IT! The map goes too far! I'm lobbying NH representatives to pass a law restricting use of the term "the Shire" to ensure it is used the way I want it to, and to make sure proper credit is given to the originator of the idea!
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: FTL_Ian on May 06, 2008, 10:05 PM NHFT
Sam, have you seen "Interstate 60"?  I think you'd appreciate it.   8)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Jim Johnson on May 06, 2008, 10:09 PM NHFT
I'm claiming, "The Shire"... and "The shire"... and "thE shirE".   :ahoy:
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Pat K on May 06, 2008, 10:16 PM NHFT
(http://www.alongexpectedparty.org/Images%20main/events/hike-the-shire.jpg)
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Kat Kanning on May 07, 2008, 06:07 AM NHFT
I missed PatK and his pictures.
Title: Re: State of The Shire
Post by: Russell Kanning on May 07, 2008, 06:14 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on May 06, 2008, 09:27 PM NHFT
Yes, but odds are good that if you have boundaries, the Shire will be more difficult to see.
The Shire has spheres of influence like a city wanting to annex territory.