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Regional Discussion => Merrimack Valley => Manchester => Topic started by: stanford on July 09, 2008, 07:04 PM NHFT

Title: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: stanford on July 09, 2008, 07:04 PM NHFT
I'm hosting a "Real Money Poker Night" tomorrow (10-Jul) at my house/construction zone in Candia. We'll get started 7-ish.

I've noticed a problem when people talk in terms of real money. People seem to always convert it to current Federal reserve Note notation. I would like to continue the conversation about what to call fractions of a measurable unit of real money. For example, a quarter can be called a quarter ounce of silver, but what is a tenth of an ounce called? What about a hundredth?

Come to Real Money Poker Night and bring your real money. No FRNs accepted at the table. If you don't have any real money (silver preferred), I'm sure there will be people there who will exchange FRNs for silver rounds. I'll be the cashier and can convert silver rounds into casino chips for fractional betting if you'd like.

This is the first time I've done anything like this, so keep your expectations low. I just want to continue the dialog about real money, and what a better way to learn than if you have your real money on the line! Oh. and bring a folding chair if you want to sit! Smoke 'em if you've got em, and the beer's on me.

Use Google Maps via the link below. All other map programs put me about a half mile away.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=456+Critchett+Rd,+Candia,+NH+03034&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=72.307136,105.292969&ie=UTF8&ll=43.072211,-71.235073&spn=0.008386,0.012853&z=16&iwloc=addr

Look for my red truck in the yard, along with four junkers "some guy promised to take". Maybe I'll use those as collateral for a good hand...

Brian.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Pat K on July 09, 2008, 07:25 PM NHFT
[youtube]AKxP1-B1xA0[/youtube] ;D
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 09, 2008, 07:34 PM NHFT
I can probably participate if the stakes aren't too high. I'm still unemployed. I have some silver though.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Puke on July 09, 2008, 08:20 PM NHFT
Neat. Too bad it's too far away for me.  :(

Oh, you could call a tenth ounce a "tenny".
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Pat McCotter on July 09, 2008, 10:21 PM NHFT
When I had some Mexican Libertads (1oz and fractional) I played with these names:
onza = ounce
media = half
cuarta = quarter
décima = tenth
vigésima = twentieth
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on July 10, 2008, 07:02 AM NHFT
Had huh?  Guess you aren't very good at poker ;D
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Pat McCotter on July 10, 2008, 07:10 AM NHFT
 ;D
Nope. I traded them for FRN's which I then traded for guns.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Raineyrocks on July 10, 2008, 11:14 AM NHFT
When I had some Mexican Libertads (1oz and fractional) I played with these names:
onza = ounce
media = half
cuarta = quarter
décima = tenth
vigésima = twentieth

Had huh?  Guess you aren't very good at poker ;D
;D
Nope. I traded them for FRN's which I then traded for guns.


You 2 are so funny! :biglaugh:
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Raineyrocks on July 10, 2008, 11:15 AM NHFT
[youtube]AKxP1-B1xA0[/youtube] ;D




 :blueman: :broc1:  Great song!
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: ReverendRyan on July 10, 2008, 02:33 PM NHFT
I want to go, but can't find a ride. Anyone heading there from (or through) Manchester?
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: mackler on July 10, 2008, 03:28 PM NHFT
If anyone is interested, I have some spare silver coin I would be willing to spend on dollar-denominated notes issued by any Federal Reserve Bank.  Provided the seller is a porcupine, of course (I'll take some risk for a good cause).

Get in touch with me before then, since I don't plan on being at the game.

Adam

ps. is there really such thing as a 1/10 oz silver coin?
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 10, 2008, 04:11 PM NHFT
ps. is there really such thing as a 1/10 oz silver coin?

I have some old U.S. dimes that have about a tenth of an oz of silver in them.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Pat McCotter on July 10, 2008, 04:15 PM NHFT
If anyone is interested, I have some spare silver coin I would be willing to spend on dollar-denominated notes issued by any Federal Reserve Bank.  Provided the seller is a porcupine, of course (I'll take some risk for a good cause).

Get in touch with me before then, since I don't plan on being at the game.

Adam

ps. is there really such thing as a 1/10 oz silver coin?


Yep, and a 1/20 oz, also.
(http://www.pandaamerica.com/upd_images/mxs2002libertad_set_bu.jpg)
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: ReverendRyan on July 10, 2008, 04:43 PM NHFT
Is there NOBODY going from Manchester?  :-[
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on July 10, 2008, 05:30 PM NHFT
I'm hoping to play some Poker during the Burning Porcupine Festival.  I'm thinking any kind of money to keep it less complicated.  Besides I like to play nickel, dime, quarter and my smallest silver coin is my limit per session ;D
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: mackler on July 10, 2008, 05:43 PM NHFT

I have some old U.S. dimes that have about a tenth of an oz of silver in them.


Really?  What year are those from?
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 10, 2008, 05:53 PM NHFT
Did you find a ride yet, Ryan?

I'm planning to have some games in Keene when I get there. I figure we can have small stakes poker nights as well as casino nights. I want to invest in a craps layout and we can have Blackjack. I figure we can all contribute a few bucks that becomes the "house" and then that money will tend to grow due to the slight house advantage and can be used to buy pizza or something. Essentially, the food is funded by the losers. :) I think casino games can be fun and this is a way to play them without feeling like the casino is just robbing you blind.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on July 10, 2008, 05:56 PM NHFT
European Roulette wheel
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Raineyrocks on July 10, 2008, 07:01 PM NHFT
I love poker!  Darn it, I wish I lived closer!

I remember the first "real" game of poker I ever had.  I was 16 and my brother's friends invited me to play, thinking they were going to win my money.  Ha!  I kicked their butts!  We were only playing with nickels, dimes, and quarters and I walked out of there with $15 and all of their respect! ;D
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on July 10, 2008, 10:00 PM NHFT
As each of my sisters and I got to be about 5 or 6 years old my parents taught us Poker.  They had a big can of pennies from which everyone was issued the same amount, and you had to try to hold on to them and try to get more!
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 11, 2008, 01:59 AM NHFT
My grandmother taught me. We used to play all the time. I don't think I learned much actual practical information though. I think I learned most of what I know relatively recently. College classes in probability and statistics helped, along with a complete lack of faith in "luck" or anything else magical and unnatural.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Kat Kanning on July 11, 2008, 08:00 AM NHFT
I used to play poker and smoke cigars with my big brother and his friends.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 11, 2008, 08:38 AM NHFT
how did it go?
will you be repeating it at your place or at Burning Porcupine?
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 11, 2008, 08:48 AM NHFT
I think quite a lot of fun was had by all, if you discount a couple of brief periods of time where I became overly loquacious about certain sexual matters after having too much beer. But in my defense, Ryan started it!
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Kat Kanning on July 11, 2008, 08:50 AM NHFT
Sounds entertaining  :D
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: ReverendRyan on July 11, 2008, 10:58 AM NHFT
Oh, and Dale and I cleaned everyone out and left with jingly pockets  :icon_pirat:
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 11, 2008, 11:31 AM NHFT
Oh, and Dale and I cleaned everyone out and left with jingly pockets  :icon_pirat:

I thought it was the Biffy (http://www.biffy.com/) that cleaned everyone out.  :-\

[youtube]fjeZPw9u2Eo[/youtube]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjeZPw9u2Eo
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Raineyrocks on July 11, 2008, 12:44 PM NHFT
I used to play poker and smoke cigars with my big brother and his friends.

Older brothers, you gotta love them! 

I remember when my brother found out I was drinking, he called me in this house with all of his friends and gave me a lecture about hanging out with the "big boys", as he poured me cups of this stuff that tasted like wood.  We made a pact that he wouldn't tell on me if I didn't tell on him.  He opened the door to send me on my way and I didn't realize how shit-faced drunk I was;  I fell and rolled down this big hill while him and his friends laughed at me!  It was really embarrassing!
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Pat McCotter on July 11, 2008, 04:26 PM NHFT
I used to play poker and smoke cigars with my big brother and his friends.

Older brothers, you gotta love them! 

I remember when my brother found out I was drinking, he called me in this house with all of his friends and gave me a lecture about hanging out with the "big boys", as he poured me cups of this stuff that tasted like wood.  We made a pact that he wouldn't tell on me if I didn't tell on him.  He opened the door to send me on my way and I didn't realize how shit-faced drunk I was;  I fell and rolled down this big hill while him and his friends laughed at me!  It was really embarrassing!

No, you weren't shit-face - couldn't have been! You remembered it! ;D
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: FTL_Ian on July 11, 2008, 09:18 PM NHFT
I'm planning to have some games in Keene when I get there. I figure we can have small stakes poker nights as well as casino nights. I want to invest in a craps layout and we can have Blackjack. I figure we can all contribute a few bucks that becomes the "house" and then that money will tend to grow due to the slight house advantage and can be used to buy pizza or something. Essentially, the food is funded by the losers. :) I think casino games can be fun and this is a way to play them without feeling like the casino is just robbing you blind.

Neat idea!
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Coconut on July 11, 2008, 10:12 PM NHFT
I'm planning to have some games in Keene when I get there. I figure we can have small stakes poker nights as well as casino nights. I want to invest in a craps layout and we can have Blackjack. I figure we can all contribute a few bucks that becomes the "house" and then that money will tend to grow due to the slight house advantage and can be used to buy pizza or something. Essentially, the food is funded by the losers. :) I think casino games can be fun and this is a way to play them without feeling like the casino is just robbing you blind.


I'm also quite an avid studier of poker and casino games. Perhaps I can help you.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: dalebert on July 11, 2008, 11:38 PM NHFT
I'm also quite an avid studier of poker and casino games. Perhaps I can help you.

I love Craps but could prolly use some help re-learning all the complex rules. I still have the gist of it but it's one of those use it or lose it things. I got a couple hours crash course on it presented by a friend at my old work place who was taking up gambling as a hobby.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: stanford on July 12, 2008, 08:12 AM NHFT
So we had the first Real Money Poker Night at my house on Thursday. A fun time was had by all.

My intent for this event was to get people accustomed to thinking in terms of real money for when the inevitable crash of the dollar occurs. How do we transact using silver? What better way to learn than when people have real money in the pot?

We established relative values for .999 silver rounds to pre-1964 quarters and dimes (100:160, but we later found out it was actually 100:138, which we will use for future games). To make it more fractional, all play was done using chips, which were valued at 100 (black), 25 (green), 10 (blue), 5 (red), and 1 (quite) units, a unit being one percent of the value of 90% silver (pre-1964 U.S. quarters and dimes). So you could bring a round and get 138 units worth of chips, one black, one green, two reds, and three whites. Or you could trade your 90% coins and get face value (one dime gets you a blue, a quarter gets you a green). The banker (me) took care of the change transactions.

We played Texas Hold'em, starting with 2 for the small blind and 5 for the large blind. In the future, we will ratchet that up as the evening progresses. This is a good game for most people as it is easy to learn, but still requires some strategy and skill.

At the end of the game, we cashed back the chips for silver. This went pretty well, except the banker must have made some bad change during the game and came up short. I'll fix that next time by having a slush fund.

My son Miller didn't bring any silver with him, so he was the designated dealer. He got tips at the end of the night from the winning players.

So now the only thing left to make this also an act of civil disobedience is to have the house take a cut. We will do that next time, as that is illegal in New Hampshire. The plan is to have the house take the small blind of each hand.

We will definitely do this at Burning Porc. Be sure to bring your silver!
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Puke on July 12, 2008, 08:16 AM NHFT
Very nice.

Hold'em is a rather popular version that almost everyone knows. It's a good start.

Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 12, 2008, 10:25 AM NHFT
most excellent
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Coconut on July 12, 2008, 01:59 PM NHFT

At the end of the game, we cashed back the chips for silver. This went pretty well, except the banker must have made some bad change during the game and came up short. I'll fix that next time by having a slush fund.


If I run a cash game, it is rare the the box comes up completely even for whatever reason. Though usually I'm off less than a dollar.
Title: Re: Real Money Poker Night
Post by: Raineyrocks on July 12, 2008, 09:06 PM NHFT
I used to play poker and smoke cigars with my big brother and his friends.

Older brothers, you gotta love them! 

I remember when my brother found out I was drinking, he called me in this house with all of his friends and gave me a lecture about hanging out with the "big boys", as he poured me cups of this stuff that tasted like wood.  We made a pact that he wouldn't tell on me if I didn't tell on him.  He opened the door to send me on my way and I didn't realize how shit-faced drunk I was;  I fell and rolled down this big hill while him and his friends laughed at me!  It was really embarrassing!

No, you weren't shit-face - couldn't have been! You remembered it! ;D

Ha, you have a point there! ;D