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Title: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on August 23, 2008, 08:29 AM NHFT
NH Tea Party (https://www.nhteaparty.org/) is giving me this:—

QuoteShutdown

This forum is shut down indefinitely. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Anyone know what's going on?
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: error on August 23, 2008, 02:03 PM NHFT
I know what's going on.

The SSL certificate is expired and I have no control over the domain name. And the person who does have control of the domain name is trying to claim he owns the forum and that I am some uncompensated caretaker. I don't know how he justifies this claim since he's put virtually no work into it.

So at this point I can take the forum and put it up on some other domain name (and I have no idea whatsoever what domain name might be good for this; if you have ideas, PM me, don't post them here) or I can just hand him a tarball of the forum and see if he really wants to try his hand at running it, and wash my hands of it.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Russell Kanning on August 23, 2008, 02:14 PM NHFT
should we know who this individual is?
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: error on August 23, 2008, 02:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on August 23, 2008, 02:14 PM NHFT
should we know who this individual is?

Not necessarily, though I suppose it isn't hard to find out.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Russell Kanning on August 23, 2008, 02:41 PM NHFT
ok
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 23, 2008, 03:52 PM NHFT
If you want to know:

http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=nhteaparty.org&prog_id=godaddy
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: FTL_Ian on August 23, 2008, 03:53 PM NHFT
Sorry to hear the news. 


For those who still need an extra forum fix, http://forum.freekeene.com is still available for all your Keene area activism discussions.

(I couldn't resist.)
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on August 23, 2008, 08:57 PM NHFT
Can't throw up a self-signed cert until the issue with the domain ownership is resolved?
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on August 27, 2008, 08:42 PM NHFT
Joe and Denise own the domain but according to Joe aren't responsible for the SSL certificate. Trying to resolve this all privately, so I'm locking the thread for now...
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 15, 2008, 07:21 AM NHFT
This should be back online sometime today.

Waiting on the nameserver changes, still...
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on September 15, 2008, 07:26 AM NHFT
Gone from my Bookmarks.  Sorry
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 15, 2008, 07:29 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on September 15, 2008, 07:26 AM NHFT
Gone from my Bookmarks.  Sorry

It'll be there even if you won't. :P
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 15, 2008, 07:30 AM NHFT
It's still not back!
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 15, 2008, 07:48 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 15, 2008, 07:30 AM NHFT
It's still not back!

Nope. I'm hosting it now, but don't control the domain name. I'm waiting on Joe & Denise to switch over the nameservers to point to my server, and then we're good to go.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 15, 2008, 10:52 AM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on September 15, 2008, 07:48 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 15, 2008, 07:30 AM NHFT
It's still not back!

Nope. I'm hosting it now, but don't control the domain name. I'm waiting on Joe & Denise to switch over the nameservers to point to my server, and then we're good to go.
;D
Just foolin' wit' ya! Thanks for the work you're doing!

Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 15, 2008, 11:59 AM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on August 27, 2008, 08:42 PM NHFT
Joe and Denise own the domain but according to Joe aren't responsible for the SSL certificate. Trying to resolve this all privately, so I'm locking the thread for now...
oh goody ... private stuff and locking threads ... 2 of my favorite things ;D
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: David on September 15, 2008, 01:21 PM NHFT
I am glad that everything was worked out.   :)
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 15, 2008, 01:33 PM NHFT
so ... satisfied customers?
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 16, 2008, 06:24 AM NHFT
The site should be back up today. Name servers were switched over this morning, so it might take a bit for the old records to expire.

It's currently using a self-signed SSL certificate, which has to be accepted by the browser in order to connect:—

MSIE: http://leonmeijer.nl/archive/2008/08/01/123.aspx (scroll to "Trust your own certificate in IE 7").
Firefox: Just click the button to accept the certificate permenantly in the dialog that comes up.
Firefox/3.0: http://www.osnews.com/story/20230/Firefox_3_0_s_SSL_Certificate_Interface_Meets_Resistance
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: error on September 17, 2008, 12:33 AM NHFT
As promised, I deleted my account from the NH Tea Party. I will not return.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 17, 2008, 06:46 AM NHFT
good to see it will be working
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: FTL_Ian on September 17, 2008, 11:58 AM NHFT
Quote from: error on September 17, 2008, 12:33 AM NHFT
As promised, I deleted my account from the NH Tea Party. I will not return.

Interesting...
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: lastlady on September 17, 2008, 12:23 PM NHFT
May I ask why? I am not up to date on current events. If you're comfortable, I would love to know or pointed in the right direction to find out why you are off what I thought was your baby?


Quote from: error on September 17, 2008, 12:33 AM NHFT
As promised, I deleted my account from the NH Tea Party. I will not return.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: David on September 17, 2008, 07:40 PM NHFT
I am curious too.  I don't go there often, but as an activist website, I am interested in it. 
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Jennifer on September 17, 2008, 11:22 PM NHFT
Another curious onlooker...
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 18, 2008, 02:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: lastlady on September 17, 2008, 12:23 PM NHFT
May I ask why? I am not up to date on current events. If you're comfortable, I would love to know or pointed in the right direction to find out why you are off what I thought was your baby?

Quote from: error on September 17, 2008, 12:33 AM NHFT
As promised, I deleted my account from the NH Tea Party. I will not return.

All I know is that Michael won't deal/communicate/&c. with Joe any more. I don't know what the reason for this is. Their refusal to jointly administer NH Tea Party seemingly started back in March, as a result of an argument they had on the forum over banning ny2nh.

When the SSL cert expired a couple weeks ago, and the site went down, I tried to find out what was going on so I could help get the site back up. Eventually, I offered to take over the site: Michael agreed and sent me the database dump, but said that he doesn't want anything to do with the site once it's out of his hands. So, it's up now, and he deleted himself as he implied he would.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Paul on September 19, 2008, 12:06 PM NHFT
Sorry I'm new and I know it's kinda a non-issue but why does it need SSL?  Seems like an unnecessary headache for a public board, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 19, 2008, 07:01 PM NHFT
Quote from: Paul on September 19, 2008, 12:06 PM NHFT
Sorry I'm new and I know it's kinda a non-issue but why does it need SSL?  Seems like an unnecessary headache for a public board, unless I'm missing something.

It's not a public forum. Only logged-in members who have begun to post can view most of the boards on the forum.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Paul on September 19, 2008, 07:27 PM NHFT
Oooooh OK.  Figured my ignorance was at play.
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: Areté on October 17, 2008, 08:28 PM NHFT
Sure is a lot of interesting topics on NHTeaParty. Good stuff! ;D
Title: Re: NH Tea Party shut down?
Post by: K. Darien Freeheart on October 17, 2008, 09:13 PM NHFT
QuoteSorry I'm new and I know it's kinda a non-issue but why does it need SSL?

It's just an added measure of privacy. The data is encrypted in all of the steps between your computer and the server, so information can't be intercepted in the middle by, for instance, your ISP or a compromised (virus, sniffer, et cetera) system on the network.