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Title: Auto mods
Post by: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:43 AM NHFT
How is NH concerning mods to cars like exhaust etc?
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on August 31, 2008, 05:49 AM NHFT
We've had exhaust systems on our cars for years now.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:54 AM NHFT
i mean are noise ordinance tight or no? ive got a 65 mustang fastback with headers and glass packs exiting to the sides
tint limits? etc
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on August 31, 2008, 05:59 AM NHFT
I hear they can be tough on tinting at inspection. Loud pipes will, probably, get you attention in the cities, but, not, say....Grafton.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Puke on August 31, 2008, 09:32 AM NHFT
I doubt there are that many ordinances about noise.
There are assholes with very loud cars all over this town.

As long as it passes inspection I guess.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 09:48 AM NHFT
the glass pack could be considered O.E.M. since it was a dealer option etc in 65 thanks to the shelbys
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: McDuck on September 01, 2008, 04:11 PM NHFT
Quote from: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:43 AM NHFT
How is NH concerning mods to cars like exhaust etc?

From what I understand your Mustang would probably be exempt from a lot of regs (specifically emissions) given its age.  The two biggest issues that I've read NH police will harass you about is window tinting and excessive exhaust noise (the latter can be somewhat controlled by your right foot ;D). 
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: KBCraig on September 02, 2008, 12:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:54 AM NHFT
tint limits? etc

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/NH/

Front side windows: no tint allowed.
Rear side windows: >35% VLT
Rear window: >35% VLT

Not sure if this will give us a problem when we move, because 3-sides window tint is standard in this part of the country. They come that way from the factory (and anyone who's ever driven in sunny Texas knows why!)
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on September 02, 2008, 03:12 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on September 02, 2008, 12:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:54 AM NHFT
tint limits? etc

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/NH/

Front side windows: no tint allowed.
Rear side windows: >35% VLT
Rear window: >35% VLT

Not sure if this will give us a problem when we move, because 3-sides window tint is standard in this part of the country. They come that way from the factory (and anyone who's ever driven in sunny Texas knows why!)


RSA 266:58-a (http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/266/266-58-a.htm).
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: rmodel65 on September 02, 2008, 04:00 AM NHFT
my 3 sons err... cars :P


(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4/rmodel65/kandypaint021.jpg)(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4/rmodel65/bronco073.jpg)(http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f4/rmodel65/101_1061.jpg)
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: beretta92d on September 06, 2008, 10:45 PM NHFT
i've had a car that had tint(35%) on every window(except windshield) and never got stopped..even passed inspection.
not best pic of how it looked w/tint
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/beretta92d/mildflexwithbert.jpg
it also had a nice loud aftermarket muffler..http://s24.photobucket.com/albums/c34/beretta92d/?action=view&current=vidclipwithoutsilencer.flv

Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: rmodel65 on September 08, 2008, 12:08 AM NHFT
my mom has a subie actually 2 they are both RHD though
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Toadstool on December 19, 2008, 06:38 PM NHFT
tint ticket $43 each time, some times looking good pays... $43 a time lol

as for exh, I run a 3 inch pipe from Turbo back, lol... fire spitting goodness,  no Big problems yet, its my Family car I get issues in, has tint! looks like Jon Gotti is in town, black car black tint, car is a lincoln towncar type in size, not gonna disclose my ride seeing coppers are gonna hit me more often now,

I got the tint ticket for not answering his ??? mainly, was nice to say NO! to a cop and have him choke up...
Best advice I ever got and used, NEVER SPEAK TO COPS!

I get pulled over and SAY nothing.
They HATE it.  and try to make up all kinds of random laws off the top of their heads... You know its illegal to stand here dont you!  lmao your kidding right. NO,  this is a crime scene, Cop pulled my buddy over in my truck I went to see whats the deal on foot.  I hate govt and their muscle, why dont they hire cops with intelligence. 

wow, sorry.
pm me when you get in town and need help! I got you!
and nice cars, RWD FTW.
I am a Nissan guy, hence rwd.
a lil vid for my car loving liberty loving homie!
me in nh at star speedway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X814LdIpCY&feature=related&FMT=18

I thought for a while I was only one into racing, but I meet a few car guys on this forum er now and then
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: neggy on December 19, 2008, 07:59 PM NHFT
If you are not a dickhead about noise there is usually not a problem.

There are places that have gotten sick of the noise BS, mostly because of bikers, and have passed local regulations, Hampton Beach and Laconia being two I know of of the top of my head.

The tint standard is based on the federal regulations.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: John Edward Mercier on December 20, 2008, 03:16 PM NHFT
Laconia has a specific noise ordinance?

I think you may be confusing the State statute regarding motorcycle noise with a local ordinance.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Hubbard on December 20, 2008, 04:03 PM NHFT
Quote from: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:54 AM NHFT
i mean are noise ordinance tight or no? ive got a 65 mustang fastback with headers and glass packs exiting to the sides
tint limits? etc

You can hear my truck rumble up from a good distance and I haven't had any issues.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Hubbard on December 20, 2008, 04:04 PM NHFT
I hear they are real dicks about tinting. And if you are a real asshole with a 180db sound system in my neighborhood I hear your tires deflate magically overnight!
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: neggy on December 20, 2008, 04:43 PM NHFT
thanks fr the RSA heads up on tinting the side windows.

I have 1 car registered in MA that I was going to bring over the border, it belongs to my business so I left it registered in MA, but now it looks like I need to keep it registered there to keep my tint.

Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: KBCraig on December 20, 2008, 09:37 PM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 19, 2008, 07:59 PM NHFT
The tint standard is based on the federal regulations.
There is no federal regulation requiring 0% tint on windows to the left and right of the driver; that's an insane NH statute that needs to be repealed.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: AntonLee on December 20, 2008, 09:45 PM NHFT
people in Hampton are bitches, the bikes aren't that loud.

I was told to remove tint off my eclipse once.  Said they would arrest me if I didn't do it in front of them.   I said I'd rather be arrested.  I got a ticket.  (and paid it)
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Toadstool on December 22, 2008, 02:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on December 20, 2008, 09:37 PM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 19, 2008, 07:59 PM NHFT
The tint standard is based on the federal regulations.
There is no federal regulation requiring 0% tint on windows to the left and right of the driver; that's an insane NH statute that needs to be repealed.


How do I go about it?
I can go before a judge and try?

I like it cause 1 private. of course and 2 I weld alot, and I have sensitive eyes from it. the sun light is REAL bright. to me when I weld or around those days
Its crazy, the cop tried getting me to talk like a lil girl, like he acted dumb to try to make me dumb... his ??? were so stupid...like i wouldnt see him try to flip flop...I like not telling them ish. they make stuff up... like its a board game...
Our world really is a joke. dang.

I cant want to move.... but where.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: AntonLee on December 22, 2008, 08:48 AM NHFT
there was a girl who went around and got herself a handicap exception for her child who was sensitive to light.  Hence her little rice rocket had dark tint all the way around, and not a damn thing could be done about this scourge! 
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: John Edward Mercier on December 22, 2008, 11:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: Toadstool on December 22, 2008, 02:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on December 20, 2008, 09:37 PM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 19, 2008, 07:59 PM NHFT
The tint standard is based on the federal regulations.
There is no federal regulation requiring 0% tint on windows to the left and right of the driver; that's an insane NH statute that needs to be repealed.


How do I go about it?
I can go before a judge and try?

I like it cause 1 private. of course and 2 I weld alot, and I have sensitive eyes from it. the sun light is REAL bright. to me when I weld or around those days
Its crazy, the cop tried getting me to talk like a lil girl, like he acted dumb to try to make me dumb... his ??? were so stupid...like i wouldnt see him try to flip flop...I like not telling them ish. they make stuff up... like its a board game...
Our world really is a joke. dang.

I cant want to move.... but where.

Have to go through the Legislature.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFT
There are physical reasons for the 35% transparency threshold, among those are being able to see out the windows when pulling out of a side street. I've seen tint so dark I'd be afraid to be near the car at night knowing the driver has limited vision out the sides and back.

My windows were done by a tint shop in MA that took them to the federal limit, and IMHO that's dark enough.

BTW did you now in England tinted visors on motorcycle helmets are illegal?

So anyway, there is another reason, that is much less public, and that is cops.
They hate tinted windows because they can't see in the car when they approach it.
Now I am no fan of law enforcement, but I don't want to see anyone blown away by some gang banger using the tinted windows as cover. Some states have a law that requires you to turn your interior lights on if stopped at night.

A for loud pipes and fart can exhaust I've had enough of the rice cars and the biles, both asian and american. Try living at an intersection with a light and listening to the morons who either have to blip the throttle while waiting for the light to turn, or accelerate like it is a wednesday night in Epping when the light turns green. It isn't fun

BTW I own a 1200 CC rice bike and a Harley, and I make decent HP/torque numbers on the dyno with quiet pipes. And I don't subscribe to loud pipes save lives either, if you have gotten in a position where you are counting on your exhaust to save your bacon, you ride like an idiot and put yourself in a position you should have avoided.  People are sick of their children being woken up in the middle of the night by idiots who feel the need to wake the dead with their bikes.  Even during Bike week, the cops who have given the bikers a free pass for many years have said enough is enough.

I was at one Mass. Motorcycle Association event where there was pipe testing going on, in cooperation with the local cops and RMV.
There was one azzhat that was  proud of his 127db noise level. Note the loudest rock concert on record is the Who at 126db.

OK rant over....

Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on December 22, 2008, 03:53 PM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFT
There are physical reasons for the 35% transparency threshold, among those are being able to see out the windows when pulling out of a side street. I've seen tint so dark I'd be afraid to be near the car at night knowing the driver has limited vision out the sides and back.

My windows were done by a tint shop in MA that took them to the federal limit, and IMHO that's dark enough.

BTW did you now in England tinted visors on motorcycle helmets are illegal?

So anyway, there is another reason, that is much less public, and that is cops.
They hate tinted windows because they can't see in the car when they approach it.
Now I am no fan of law enforcement, but I don't want to see anyone blown away by some gang banger using the tinted windows as cover. Some states have a law that requires you to turn your interior lights on if stopped at night.

Except there are no laws against something outright opaque covering the windows that the tint laws apply to, e.g., curtains. (I've talked to a New Hampshire cop about this subject.) The anti-tint laws are basically just an idiotic reaction to "gangbangers," not actually based on something semi-rational like actual safety/visibility concerns.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: AntonLee on December 23, 2008, 06:15 AM NHFT
noise levels are just another reason to ticket people.  I live on MA 286, there are plenty of bikers, with their loud exhausts that come by here.  I think when it bothers people they're being a bit too whiny about it, imho. 

I could care less if a cop wants to be able to see in my car, in my opinion it's too effin bad.  I had limo dark (20%) on my van at one point and I could see out the windows quite fine in fact.  If you can't see out the windows, probably a good idea not to tint your windows.   Most gangbangers I've seen don't even drive around, they sit around, and bother people on the street.

BTW:  If the cops are so worried about being able to see into vehicles. . .why does every douche with a black suburban, a cute little thin blue line front plate (which are illegal in MA) and a loud exhaust system allowed to do it?  Oh yeah that's right, I already answered my question. . .the thin blue line.  Cops want to see in your car to see if you have something they can arrest you over.  If they can't see in, then they can't point anything out.  Perhaps, in my opinion, the police officer go investigate a real crime as opposed to making people remove their tint.

it's a valid idea.  .  . allowing people to tint will not end the world.  Gangbangers will not gather in the streets shooting into the air in celebration of their new freedoms to hide themselves in cars and shoot cops from their tinted window vehicles.

I always thought it'd be a good idea to use the Ozone layer as an excuse that you need tinted windows!  All those chlorine atoms going up in the air because SOME people don't remove refrigerant correctly and release it into the atmosphere, thus the ozone is depleted and the rays of the sun bother eyes more.  Tinting for all!  (if you want it)
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on December 23, 2008, 07:17 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on December 23, 2008, 06:15 AM NHFT
noise levels are just another reason to ticket people.

Indeed, this was the entire basis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPUfsdPXxw) for the beginning of Bill and Ivy's ongoing trials in Manchester right now.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: AntonLee on December 23, 2008, 12:04 PM NHFT
like I said before, the only reason for them to be at that courthouse is to deliver some Mexican food, not be the subject of a trial.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: William on December 24, 2008, 10:12 AM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on September 02, 2008, 03:12 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on September 02, 2008, 12:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: rmodel65 on August 31, 2008, 05:54 AM NHFT
tint limits? etc

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/NH/

Front side windows: no tint allowed.
Rear side windows: >35% VLT
Rear window: >35% VLT

Not sure if this will give us a problem when we move, because 3-sides window tint is standard in this part of the country. They come that way from the factory (and anyone who's ever driven in sunny Texas knows why!)


RSA 266:58-a (http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XXI/266/266-58-a.htm).

Looks like the key there is aftermarket.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: MaineShark on December 30, 2008, 09:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFTThere are physical reasons for the 35% transparency threshold, among those are being able to see out the windows when pulling out of a side street. I've seen tint so dark I'd be afraid to be near the car at night knowing the driver has limited vision out the sides and back.

Depends upon your eyes.  I've worn regular sunglasses, with clip-on sunglasses over them, while driving on a moonless, overcast night.  Because otherwise, I was being blinded by the headlights of the other cars, and having your vision washed out for a few seconds at highway speeds would be far more dangerous than tinted windows.

Quote from: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFTSo anyway, there is another reason, that is much less public, and that is cops.
They hate tinted windows because they can't see in the car when they approach it.
Now I am no fan of law enforcement, but I don't want to see anyone blown away by some gang banger using the tinted windows as cover. Some states have a law that requires you to turn your interior lights on if stopped at night.

I don't want to see anyone "blown away by some gang banger," either.

Maybe cops should stop attacking people, and they wouldn't be at risk of that, then?  Seems like a better solution...

Joe
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Toadstool on December 30, 2008, 01:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: MaineShark on December 30, 2008, 09:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFTThere are physical reasons for the 35% transparency threshold, among those are being able to see out the windows when pulling out of a side street. I've seen tint so dark I'd be afraid to be near the car at night knowing the driver has limited vision out the sides and back.

Depends upon your eyes.  I've worn regular sunglasses, with clip-on sunglasses over them, while driving on a moonless, overcast night.  Because otherwise, I was being blinded by the headlights of the other cars, and having your vision washed out for a few seconds at highway speeds would be far more dangerous than tinted windows.

Quote from: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFTSo anyway, there is another reason, that is much less public, and that is cops.
They hate tinted windows because they can't see in the car when they approach it.
Now I am no fan of law enforcement, but I don't want to see anyone blown away by some gang banger using the tinted windows as cover. Some states have a law that requires you to turn your interior lights on if stopped at night.

I don't want to see anyone "blown away by some gang banger," either.

Maybe cops should stop attacking people, and they wouldn't be at risk of that, then?  Seems like a better solution...

Joe
I always like how when I get pulled over for no reason at all, they just bored and like my car... they always have  a hand on their gun,  Thats so nice.
Even if it was a speeding pull, for 10 mpg over.  does he need to let me know he can shot me in 9 seconds from time his hands on his gun til shot.

Its really odd.
You have to play with cops like 1st dates.... get em to laugh and your good.  But some are stuck up and will snob ya off...  I love analogies? sp

Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: KBCraig on December 31, 2008, 01:49 AM NHFT
Quote from: neggy on December 22, 2008, 03:42 PM NHFT
There are physical reasons for the 35% transparency threshold, among those are being able to see out the windows when pulling out of a side street. I've seen tint so dark I'd be afraid to be near the car at night knowing the driver has limited vision out the sides and back.

The limit has nothing to do with seeing out, it's only about seeing in. "Officer safety", you know, also known as "we want to be able to visually search your car without actually opening the door."

My house windows have 0% tint, but I can't see out right now because it's brighter inside than out. Simple physics. Reverse things, where the only light inside is the dim dashboard glow, and outside there are bright street lights, oncoming car lights, etc., and I'll see out just fine, while those on the outside can't see in.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: sandm000 on April 15, 2009, 08:50 AM NHFT
Is this thread about mods we have or mods we want?
I want Lambo doors on my saturn.
(http://www.auto-parts-avenue.com/images/GT-Factory-Diablo-Door-Hinge-Conversion-Kit-Pictures/Saturn/Saturn-Lambo-Doors-6.jpg)
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: 280 on April 15, 2009, 02:05 PM NHFT
The cops usually only know the more general "mod laws" such as tint. They really have no way to tell if your car is too loud on the spot. In some states it is illegal to do anything aftermarket to your car. I've had far from stock vehicles in a couple different states now and luckily I've never gotten a ticket for any modifications done to my cars. When my car is done I'll have a '75 280Z with a different motor, no front bumper and no power robbing restrictions on my exhaust. The turbo will do most of the work to keep things quiet. I'm not too concerned about what the laws will let me do, but it would be good I guess to at least know how many I'll be breaking.

Are there statewide emissions laws in NH? Is it part of the inspection process?

From past experience FL has no inspection or emissions... Same with OH.
PA mandates annual inspection, but emissions are reserved for certain counties, that I've never had a car registered in.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Pat McCotter on April 17, 2009, 01:23 AM NHFT
NH has annual inspection. Emission tests are on 2005 and later vehicles - ODBII plug-in test.

And BTW - Spark plugs are for pussies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLbN45c44Q8


The Nissan diesel fits the 240Z transmission without an adapter plate. Also, the motor mounts are the same.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Pat K on April 17, 2009, 01:53 AM NHFT
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: MaineShark on April 17, 2009, 07:34 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on April 17, 2009, 01:23 AM NHFTNH has annual inspection. Emission tests are on 2005 and later vehicles - ODBII plug-in test.

Translation for those who aren't tech-savvy: if your check engine light is not on, you almost certainly pass.  They don't hook your car to an external tester - they just read the error codes in your car's on-board computer.  If your car says that it's healthy, they believe it.

Quote from: Pat McCotter on April 17, 2009, 01:23 AM NHFTAnd BTW - Spark plugs are for pussies!

Indeed.  I don't know if I'm ever buying another gasser.  Diesel just plain rocks...

Joe
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: 280 on April 17, 2009, 11:02 AM NHFT
I didn't know they made the L series motors in a diesel app.
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Toadstool on July 09, 2009, 05:07 PM NHFT
Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2009, 02:05 PM NHFT
The cops usually only know the more general "mod laws" such as tint. They really have no way to tell if your car is too loud on the spot. In some states it is illegal to do anything aftermarket to your car. I've had far from stock vehicles in a couple different states now and luckily I've never gotten a ticket for any modifications done to my cars. When my car is done I'll have a '75 280Z with a different motor, no front bumper and no power robbing restrictions on my exhaust. The turbo will do most of the work to keep things quiet. I'm not too concerned about what the laws will let me do, but it would be good I guess to at least know how many I'll be breaking.

Are there statewide emissions laws in NH? Is it part of the inspection process?

From past experience FL has no inspection or emissions... Same with OH.
PA mandates annual inspection, but emissions are reserved for certain counties, that I've never had a car registered in.

ok few months old... BUT!  I just peeped this. and Andrew got me at 75 280z.  I love Datsun/ nissan! lol.  what motor you swapping into it? bigger turbo?  I sold a guy a rb26dett for a 240z in mass. he has like 650rwhp in it its so WONDERFUL! to see.  money green paint!

turbos do keep noise down. bigger snail less noise! great trade off!
glad liberty lovers and datsun nissan fans are one and same!
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: 280 on July 09, 2009, 06:01 PM NHFT
Just an L28et that I got for dirt cheap, but spent a lot of hours cleaning it up, strengthening it, and installing some new goodies at a machine shop back in PA. My move to NH really sent the project to a temporary halt, but I just started my new job last week. In a couple weeks or so when paychecks start coming in, I'll be shopping for some parts and then its back to work on it. 
Title: Re: Auto mods
Post by: Toadstool on July 09, 2009, 06:44 PM NHFT
and this is what the engine hoist is for... Im so in. lol.
lmk when your ready. I have a place here at my house you can do it if need be. i LOVE nissans. Ill send you some info and shit.
I drift here and there at lil events in NY,NJ... if your interested lmk.  we are heading out to NJ tom night, HUGE EVENT! East coast bash 3 all the grassroots drivers go and PARTY , I mean drive. and ahhh hang out. 

Pics of said cah? pm me it/