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Title: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on August 31, 2008, 03:21 PM NHFT
"Advertising with the Ridley Report gets the word out!"

- Ian Freeman
  Free Talk Live / FreeKeene.com
  RidleyReport advertiser since 2007

Message me on Facebook to buy an ad:
https://www.facebook.com/ridleyreport


What a Ridley Report ad purchase gets you:


1) I build an ad and a "blip" for you.  Generally the blip airs at the start of the vid, the full ad at the end.
2) I link to your URL at the beginning of my video descrip.
3) Ad keeps running 'till it gets the views you paid for.
4) If it gets more views than you agreed to pay for...the extras are free.

What it costs: 

Until further notice orders initiated after August 7, 2014 run 3.5 cents per first-week hit ....  In other words 100 bucks would require me to get you a total of at least 3,500 first-week views on the ad.  If you want to commission a smaller run than that, you can.  But the price per first-week view goes up to five cents. So most people get 100 bucks worth or more. 

Unexpected extra hits are free.  Hits that occur on your ad after that video's first week on the air are free. So you can't accidentally get committed to charges beyond what you agreed to.

Example:  Say you buy a $100 ad run (with the discount, that costs you 3 cents a hit).  So I owe you 3,500 first-week hits on your ad during that run .  Say your ad airs three times.   The first two airings each get 500 views during their first week on the air; the third airing gets 3,000.  That's a total of 4,000 first-week hits even though I only owed you 3,500. That means I overshot the total by about 500  Those ~500 views become a minor free bonus for you, if I overshoot.  The run then completes, but of course you keep getting free hits for as long as the video's up.   Years, usually...though of course vids on occasion get censored or removed.

Sometimes I make live type ads, etc., quick & dirty in the field.  These will sometimes be missing some element like your written URL. These and ads with known errors will be discounted, usually half price.

Most folks order a set dollar amount worth of ads.  The most common purchase is $100 or alternate-currency equivalent. I accept Bitcoin and hundreds of the alcoins.  Long as they're traded on Cryptsy or BTC-e...that should work.   

Caveats

The quality of the ad, and the number of versions, tends to be proportionate to your expenditure.  The less expensive your ad run, the less time I'll put into the ad and the less chance I'll make a second version of it.   I'm not usually able to check the number of hits at precisely the one-week mark, so some degree of estimating is required. It will benefit you sometimes, me sometimes.  Fortunately, most YouTube hits tend to occur during the first few days so it's easy to achieve pretty accurate estimates.  Usually within about a month after the run completes I will have all my raw stats collected on your run and can send them to you...but an ad run of $100, for instance, will normally take a couple months to complete.  So you probably wont hear from me for a few months after I've notified you of the first airing.  You can always ask me to run you more frequently than usual, for instance if your ad is about an event coming up in just a few weeks.

Questions for Advertisers Answering the questions below will let me make an ad more suited to your needs:

What do you want to advertise and how?
On a scale of 1 to 10 how weird/normal would you want the ads to be? (1 is Jim Kerry, 10 is Mike Wallace).
How much would you want your first ad run to be?
What's the exact URL you'd want me to plug?
Any thoughts what the message should be?
Any time frame of importance to you?
Do you have any images or vid you like to send me which I can use in the ad?  You'll need to be the one who shot it or will need to have rights to it.
And...what is thy bidding?

You can message me on Facebook to buy an ad:
https://www.facebook.com/ridleyreport

Thanks!
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: lastlady on August 31, 2008, 03:31 PM NHFT
Makes sense to me. I have a question for you, have any of your advertisers mentioned noticing a direct increase in traffic after their ad was viewed? Any feedback at all of this nature?


Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: dalebert on August 31, 2008, 08:53 PM NHFT
I heard someone say that the Free Keene dot com melodic sound was stuck in their head really tenaciously. Must have done something right there. If someone gets curious about Free Keene, they probably won't have any trouble recalling the URL.
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 01, 2008, 10:23 AM NHFT
I know his ads work ... people find out about other stuph happening in NH through the videos and the ads.
The ads work on me. :)
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 01, 2008, 10:23 AM NHFT
good explanation Dave
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: McDuck on September 01, 2008, 05:06 PM NHFT
I know his ads work ... people find out about other stuph happening in NH through the videos and the ads.
The ads work on me. :)

Same here.  I didn't even know about freekeene.com until I watched some of Dave's vids on youtube.
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: dalebert on September 01, 2008, 05:12 PM NHFT
One thing I'm learning from Project Wonderful, both as an advertiser myself and from what some of my customers have said-

You can't underestimate the value of well-targeted advertising. It seems to make an exponential difference in terms of whether people actually pay attention to an ad and are responsive. Ridley Report is hitting prime targets for liberty messages/media/products/etc.
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: Dave Ridley on February 20, 2009, 07:29 PM NHFT

Dear Ridley Report advertisers:

I wanted to update you with regard to some things that affect you.    First, as you may have noticed, I am now broadcasting live from the scene in some cases.   Live remotes are a great tool but an easy thing to abuse.  When they came to television in the 80s, viewers were subsequently subjected to decades of boring reporter standups in front of empty buildings.  My live remote situation lends itself to a different kind of abuse.  If I air a live report, and try to do a live ad in the process, it may not be as interesting or "correct" as the ads I normally edit for you.   I may not be able to put your link in the video description at first.  Eventually I may get to the point where the live ads are just as good in their own way, but for now they are not worth charging you full price over.  If it's okay with you, here's how I'll work this for now.  I may advertise you live...but if I do so I'll  charge you half price for that ad.  Once I am content that I have refined the live approach to the point where it rivals the taped ads....The price will probably end up being the same for each.   Let me know if you have any issues with this approach.

Another issue I should bring up:  Since I've now become a youtube parter, I'm allowed to "autoplay" my featured video.  This may artificially increase my number of hits, on some vids.  I'm checking to see if there is a marked increase.   If it is I may institute a discount of some kind, or further delay rate incrases.  If not...then my rates will not be effected by the autoplay.
I can't drop my rates too much or I will be unable to fulfill orders on a timely basis.

Ultimately I don't really like autoplay, or artificial hit increases...even though the source of the increase is youtube itself.  However an artificial increase  would trigger a subsequent *natural* increase.  It would put me on various youtube positions I otherwise don't achieve, thus getting me new viewers who *aren't* affected by the autoplay.  Additionally, even if there are people viewing only the first ten seconds of "your" story...they are still going to see your URL and hear your jingle.

So I probably shouldn't say no to autoplay unless you specifically request it.  I can only make sure you are still getting what you pay for.  The latter I am doing and keeping an eye on the situation, trying to answer several questions:  Is it boosting hits much?  Is the boost artificial? If artificial, is it resulting in more people counting as hits but failing to see the ad? So far it doesn't seem to be having much effect but it may take another week or two to figure out.   Autoplay began around 2/13.   

BTW about 1/2 of vids will be affected by autoplay, for about 12 hours on average.

Lastly I wanted to make sure that all of you are aware of the big discount that goes into effect whenever you order $100 or more worth of ads.  The price goes down 30 percent.  It becomes 2 cents per first-week video view.

Let me know if you have any questions, concerns or instructions for me.

To hear the latest "news for advertisers," visit http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=15218.0
I include this link in most video descriptions and will probably put it on my youtube page next.

I will not normally send mass mails like this.

Thanks again all of you for....
Your support..
Of the report!

Dave
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: Ron Helwig on February 21, 2009, 09:05 AM NHFT
In the 'etc' vein, I suppose I should do a little report on the website.

I recently added a couple of PayPal buttons so people can donate (either a monthly $1 or a one time in any amount). All donations over $50 in any month will be split between the webmaster and the listed ridleographers. [I figure it'll be a while before it gets to that point, so I haven't bothered to figure out the details. It will probably be based on number of recent videos or page views or something like that so the more prolific contributors get more monetary appreciation.]

There is a new Ridleographer in the list. Dover Exposure (http://ridleyreport.com/doverexposure) is a new reporter.

I recently added a "hot list" that should be displaying the most viewed recent videos, by ALL of the ridleographers. [The front page of the site only shows Dave's videos, per Dave's request.]
http://ridleyreport.com/hot (http://ridleyreport.com/hot)

Google changed a few things that messed up the site for a bit. For one, they changed the URLs for the YouTube feeds, causing much confusion to the programming. I think that has all settled out now, and the hot list should be working properly. Newer video pages start with more points, and get more points when they are viewed, commented on, or voted on; but the points slowly drop over time.

Also, Google changed how their ad system works. In the past, you could pass them the Google ID of the ridleographer and it would give them the ad revenue for that page. Now you have to configure the ads on Google's site so the revenue sharing thing doesn't work anymore.

Anyway, traffic is slowly building up.
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: Coconut on February 21, 2009, 06:10 PM NHFT
I recently added a "hot list" that should be displaying the most viewed recent videos, by ALL of the ridleographers. [The front page of the site only shows Dave's videos, per Dave's request.]

I don't know about the others, but I know I'm not a "Ridley trained videographer".  I appreciate the links though.

edit: ooo, and I have 1080 points! Whatever that is :) Upsettingly, obscured truth is right on my tail. Better get moving.
Title: Re: Ridley Report ad rates, etc.
Post by: Dave Ridley on February 22, 2009, 12:11 PM NHFT
I will be doing civil disobedience on March 3 and may be jailed.  This could affect advertisers, but I will endeavor to make good in whatever ways I can once I am released.

Details:

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=17123.msg286553#msg286553

Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 15, 2009, 11:37 AM NHFT
I wanted to post some more details about the mechanics of a Ridley Report ad. Info that would overcomplicate the overview I send every advertisers, yet stuff I want to make sure is out in the open. 

Here's what usually happens after you commission your first ad run.

In the absence of some agreement to the contrary, your first ad will probably be pretty basic.  It will likely be followed with improved versions if the ad run's long enough. 
The bigger the ad buys the more chances I will have to improve the ads, and the more versions of the ad will tend to appear.

I am not able to check the view totals every day, however I do have a mechanism for determining the number of hits each ad received during its first week on the air.  I check the hit totals roughly every two weeks.   Then I estimate how much your video appears to have received during its first week on the air.  The hit totals tend to go up pretty slowly after the first few days, so a look at the four day mark or 14 day mark will give me a good estimate of FW views.  The estimate might be off by as much as 10 percent.  But as often as not that will work in your favor. 

In the end it should even out, but if you are not content with this approach you are welcome to do your own counting and report the numbers to me.   I would probably use your figures rather than my own in calculating my progress toward completion of the ad run.   Let me know if this is an issue for you so I can address your concern, but for the most part it isn't practical for me to check hit totals more often than I do.

Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on May 02, 2009, 04:42 PM NHFT
for the last 3 weeks I have been behind on communicating with advertisers and tracking ads.  It's mostly because of internet issues.  Plz bear with me if I am not as responsive as usual.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on May 12, 2009, 10:47 AM NHFT
Lastlady sorry for the slow response: Most advertisers don't seem to have a way of tracking their traffic from my ads, but some do report big spikes. The ones who seem to get the most bang for the buck are liberty-related in their orientation and have something to sell or promote in New Hampshire.  They do even better I think if they show up at meetings, post on the forums, participate in the movement, etc.   But I suspect a lot of the impact of the ads is indirect and delayed, or viral word of mouth with people running around singing the URL.  Freeeee Keeeeene Dot commmmmm lol
 
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on June 05, 2009, 12:22 PM NHFT
I *think* the following instructions should bring up all airings of your ad...altho YouTube keyword searches sometimes miss things.

If the number of airings seems less than what it should be, that may be because your keyword search is failing to turn up certain airings.  Let me know and maybe I can find them manually for you.

Now...here's how to find your airings: First, visit
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RidleyReport&view=videos (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=RidleyReport&view=videos)

Then keyword search your own URL...http included.  For instance if you are Free Keene you would keyword search

"http://FreeKeene.com"

or better yet "- http://FreeKeene.com (http://FreeKeene.com)"

The dash should filter out stories where I merely mentioned you in the video descrip.

If this doesn't seem to be working right try keyword searching, for instance, just "FreeKeene.com."  Sometimes there are just things that won't show up in keyword searches but don't assume that means they never aired.  I should be able to find them if you can't.


Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on June 12, 2009, 10:01 AM NHFT
Ridley Report cuts ad rates - for now

For what will probably be a limited time I am cutting ad rates on the Ridley Report by roughly 30%

Ad runs under 100 bucks are now 2 cents per hit instead of 3.
Ad runs of 100 bucks or more are now 1.4 cents per hit instead of 2.

As usual, only hits during the first week count.  This will affect only new runs and renewals, not ad runs already commissioned under the old rate.
As before I am open to alternate forms of payment.

Discussion and more details on the way my pricing structure works:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=15218.msg257753#msg257753
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: stemmebot on June 30, 2009, 08:35 AM NHFT
Ad runs under 100 bucks are now 2 cents per hit instead of 3.
Ad runs of over 100 bucks are now 1.4 cents per hit instead of 2.

How much for exactly 100 bucks?
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on July 03, 2009, 04:51 PM NHFT
Wanted to remind advertisers that some ads I only charge half price...

Ads that air live as Qiks are often half price because they are sloppy and the URL does not always appear.
Ads with mistakes may also be half price

So if you see something that looksk subpar don't panic -  you may be paying less because of it.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 06, 2009, 03:26 PM NHFT
all ads while dada is in jail are half price ;)
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on October 23, 2009, 10:30 AM NHFT
The Ridley Report cuts back when advertisers/donations run short.  Basically I air about 12 vids/week when I have a full slate, more like 6 when I'm dry.

Current status on 10/23/09:  Closer to dry. Expect only around 8 vids a week until income picks up. Expect your contribution to have a direct impact on productivity. To buy an ad on the Ridley Report...PM me here or e-mail RidleyReport at live period com
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on December 16, 2009, 08:17 PM NHFT
...........
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on August 09, 2010, 06:51 PM NHFT
The Ridley Report has cut its rates again, see the the modified message at the top.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 18, 2011, 01:55 AM NHFT
The Ridley Report raised rates in December then cut them again starting Jan 18, 2011.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on July 07, 2011, 12:15 PM NHFT
Raised rates to near-record levels a few months back.  Now am dropping them back to normal.  See original post. 
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 18, 2011, 06:14 PM NHFT
is it denominated in gold $ or bananas?
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on August 10, 2011, 01:49 PM NHFT
Rates just dropped again (see the edited original post).  Current rate is tied for the lowest rate in RR history, so now is a good time to buy.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 21, 2012, 09:43 AM NHFT
dada now advertising grafton apple festival
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: CNHT on October 12, 2012, 04:07 PM NHFT
The Tea Party (NHTPC) would like to advertise what they are doing to stop this Agenda 21 stuff in our towns.

From US State Dept documents we find:

“Good governance at all levels is critical to our ability to make good on our Agenda 21 commitments. While national governments will make the political commitments, we rely upon regional and local governments to implement new policies in the context of local situations, to enforce environmental regulations, to innovate and adapt solutions that will succeed in unique environmental, social, and political realities. Some of the most creative solutions to our sustainable development challenges are emerging in the U.S. from our state, regional and local governments. We should encourage communities to do integrated planning, to develop sustainability plans and a local Agenda 21.” and “We can identify and leverage solutions to improve access to water, sanitation, food, and energy that will help us to achieve the Millennium Development Goals.”

~ Objectives of the UN Conference on Sustainable Development:
http://www.state.gov/e/oes/rls/remarks/2011/157993.htm (paragraph 5)

Further…

~ Sustainable Development for the Next Twenty Years–United States Views on Rio+20: http://www.state.gov/e/oes/sus/releases/176863.htm

~ High Level Dialogue on the Institutional Framework for Sustainable Development: http://www.state.gov/e/oes/rls/remarks/2011/176361.htm (pay particular attention to paragraphs 1-4-5-6-11)

You can read plenty more on both the NHTPC and Southern NH 912 websites, both are spearheading the issues. They have done years of combined research.

Anyone who continues to deny this is the United Nations promoting it's agenda through ICLEI and unelected Regional Planning Commissions right at our doorstep in our local town government, is turning a blind eye to the coming totalitarianism.

Here's another post you should read to educate oneself about how this agenda is promoted in our schools.

http://www.mvsd-ib.org/ib/2012/10/12/who-controls-education/


To get a lot of views, start videotaping these meetings.

Meetings of the 'central planners' here:

http://www.governmentoversite.com/

We have pursued this issue for quite some time now.

http://granitestatefuture.org/our-plans/
http://www.plannh.org/

In NH, when you hear Plan NH, Granite State Future, or Sustainable Communities Initiative, please run to your nearest town planner, town selectmen, town or city council, or alderman meetings. Be particularly aware of groups who pretend to be 'giving you a voice' like NH Listens  (http://www.nhlistens.org/) or AIM (http://www.actionmedia.org), who are  PR experts that actually brag how well they can help you 'neutralize resistence'. Their job isn’t to listen, but to persuade. Watch out for legal firms like CELDF.org who will appear in your spring town meetings to promote “collective rights” and “rights of nature”.

It's happening all over the country under different names. It's the attempt to regionalise us, and nullify local control. It's communism.
http://www.nhteapartycoalition.org/tea/2012/09/30/baldwin-county-alabama-nukes-horizon-2025/

https://www.planning.org/ (these folks write the manuals on what to push for)
http://www.nharpc.org/
http://www.nh.gov/water-sustainability/aboutus/index.htm

Get educated. Get active. Stop complaining about 'conspiracies'. It's all here, now.
http://windham.patch.com/articles/letter-why-town-shouldn-t-have-approved-sci

http://www.postsustainabilityinstitute.org/ (Rosa Koire -- any videos by this person are good to watch)
http://www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com/


ONE FINAL WORD: If people are truly interested in having a  'free state' they will come out in droves to help us oppose this kind of nonsense from ICLEI. (http://www.iclei.org) Otherwise, NH will be no better off than any other state... after all isn't this why you came here?

Thanks for listening.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on April 18, 2013, 08:36 PM NHFT
Bump... rate change.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on May 08, 2013, 06:41 AM NHFT
Inflation
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 08, 2014, 11:02 PM NHFT
Just cut rates again; see details in first post .
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Losphilly on March 25, 2014, 03:50 PM NHFT
Hello my name is Carlos Phillips and I am representing on behalf of the Infinitecoin (IFC) development team and we are highly interested in sponsoring one of your shows. If we could please get in contact with you regarding this matter it would be highly appreciated. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Silent_Bob on March 25, 2014, 08:19 PM NHFT
Hello my name is Carlos Phillips and I am representing on behalf of the Infinitecoin (IFC) development team and we are highly interested in sponsoring one of your shows. If we could please get in contact with you regarding this matter it would be highly appreciated. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon.

Would Nigerian be your native language?
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Losphilly on March 25, 2014, 10:20 PM NHFT
No
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 30, 2014, 05:43 PM NHFT
Dada easy to get ahold of ... try private message .... facebook .... stand next to crummy bureaucrat in Concord and wait for interview.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on July 25, 2014, 06:14 PM NHFT
So Dave will you be going in a new direction, or will you just wait for more ads?

Will it work for you to transition to reporter, instead of friend who very few are willing to share info?

just wondering since you were running into that
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on August 07, 2014, 08:42 AM NHFT
Rate cut to 3.5 cents per hit on orders over 100 bucks, see original post.

Just saw your message Russel: 

Am continuing on pretty much as usual except holding some of my work rather than uploading it.  So there is a decent sized  backlog of vids stacking up waiting to air.... In July I did a bunch of ambush interviews at Concord and New London NH and not a frame has aired yet. 

It's interesting; over the years at first there was a novelty to socializing with liberty folk but I think in this conflict the real excitement is (peaceably) raiding the enemy rather than partying with the good guys.   Seems like most of my in-person activism is at bad guy events, camera raiding them...not as much going to freedom events.  Plenty of people are already doing that and the mainstream media covers those now so it's just not needed and not that interesting. One problem solves the other and being too close to people doesn't come up as much....   I like to say, 'whenever I'm out of town I miss my enemies!'


Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on August 07, 2014, 12:07 PM NHFT
That makes sense. Recording in a way the standard media will not and asking your questions is very revealing.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Dave Ridley on August 18, 2014, 01:53 PM NHFT
oh by the way the infinite coin guy was legit.... i did two runs for him, received timely payment in full... I had the option of converting them into bitcoin any time i wanted using my cryptsy acccount.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 09, 2015, 08:05 PM NHFT
Right now I am advertising for the Christians that will be meeting at Porcfest. They will have tent sites 2 and 4 to hang out. :)
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: KBCraig on April 10, 2015, 10:08 PM NHFT
Right now I am advertising for the Christians that will be meeting at Porcfest. They will have tent sites 2 and 4 to hang out. :)

Yeah, Ridley got blasted on his last video, just because of the ad -- as if it was his opinion, not the advertiser's.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 14, 2015, 10:40 PM NHFT
doesn't take much to get many people going

for some reason ridley (since he uses a vpn) can't see this site anymore
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: jerry on April 15, 2015, 12:45 AM NHFT


for some reason ridley (since he uses a vpn) can't see this site anymore
^^^^^^^^

That would be me.  It's a side effect of blocking spammers.

When spammers find out that I've blocked their IP addresses in Russia, China, Ukraine, Poland, India, etc. they switch to using open relays in the US.  I've been careful to only block the addresses that are on the anti-spam databases or the ones that actually deliver spam when they first register here.

But it's your board, and if you want to put up with a dozen+ spammers per day I can stop doing it.
But if my understanding of how VPN anonamizers work, Ridley should be able to get though with just a few more clicks.  I believe they choose open relays at random, and trying to connect again should get him a new IP.

Let me know which way you and Kat want me to go.
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 15, 2015, 10:04 AM NHFT
it makes sense to keep it the same
people who are using vpn and such just need to work harder :)
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Tom Sawyer on April 15, 2015, 03:54 PM NHFT
Thanks Jerry for running things.  :)
Title: Re: Updates for Ridley Report advertisers
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 17, 2015, 12:40 PM NHFT
yea when I check for new messages they are already taken care of by the Shire angels