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Title: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: PowerPenguin on September 11, 2008, 05:25 PM NHFT
Here's a tip I just thought of:

If you've got spare Shaws cards, consider giving one of the extras to a Porc buddy. When you sign up for one, they give you one 'credit card' style card, plus two keychain tags with the same barcode. It's a win-win situation: One or two other Porcs get the grocery store discounts, and you get to rack up the extra points their purchases generate. These points can be redeemed for gasoline discounts at Irving stations. There are many other stores out there that have similar programs that could be capitalized on in this way.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: dalebert on September 11, 2008, 05:30 PM NHFT
Are you talking about for people who don't drive so might want the discounts without bothering with points?
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 05:33 PM NHFT
some people are very afraid of signing up for those (even though you could just fake name it as I have). . . maybe it could be a win win.  Unfortunately I only have the stupid keychain.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 11, 2008, 06:09 PM NHFT
http://www.nocards.org/
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 11, 2008, 06:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 05:33 PM NHFT
some people are very afraid of signing up for those (even though you could just fake name it as I have). . . maybe it could be a win win.  Unfortunately I only have the stupid keychain.

Any time you use a credit/debit card with it your real name is attached to it.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
sweet because I use cash 99% of the time.  Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 11, 2008, 10:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
sweet because I use cash 99% of the time.  Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

If you live in NH there are no red light cameras. There are some intersections that have what look like cameras but they are light sensors to tell when cars are waiting. This is for the demand lighting. Instead of putting inductive coils in the pavement they are using these.

There may be private property security cameras that catch some of the road but gov't in NH is not allowed to install and use their own.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: error on September 12, 2008, 01:08 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 11, 2008, 06:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 05:33 PM NHFT
some people are very afraid of signing up for those (even though you could just fake name it as I have). . . maybe it could be a win win.  Unfortunately I only have the stupid keychain.

Any time you use a credit/debit card with it your real name is attached to it.

Can't say for Shaw's but Stop & Shop seems to have no idea who I am, even when I use the card.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Russell Kanning on September 12, 2008, 04:06 AM NHFT
Shorty has a card I use.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: AntonLee on September 12, 2008, 05:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 11, 2008, 10:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
sweet because I use cash 99% of the time.  Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

If you live in NH there are no red light cameras. There are some intersections that have what look like cameras but they are light sensors to tell when cars are waiting. This is for the demand lighting. Instead of putting inductive coils in the pavement they are using these.

There may be private property security cameras that catch some of the road but gov't in NH is not allowed to install and use their own.

sorry I should have said that I'm still in Salisbury, MA. . .but there are cameras at the tollbooths.  I like the sensors.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 12, 2008, 05:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 12, 2008, 05:11 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 11, 2008, 10:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
sweet because I use cash 99% of the time.  Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

If you live in NH there are no red light cameras. There are some intersections that have what look like cameras but they are light sensors to tell when cars are waiting. This is for the demand lighting. Instead of putting inductive coils in the pavement they are using these.

There may be private property security cameras that catch some of the road but gov't in NH is not allowed to install and use their own.

sorry I should have said that I'm still in Salisbury, MA. . .but there are cameras at the tollbooths.  I like the sensors.

Oops! I forgot the exception for toll booth cameras.

Having had to move back to CT I find that I really miss the demand-traffic light system.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on September 12, 2008, 05:36 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
sweet because I use cash 99% of the time.  Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

..and you haven't shot this camera, why?



One word:  'Spraypaint can on a stick'

OK! that's more than one word!
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: doobie on September 12, 2008, 08:36 AM NHFT
Do the math....  Hanaford/Stop and Shop and still usually much cheaper... at least for the things I buy.  I went to Shaws because it was convenient to buy some things and I ended up leaving because their prices on some items were almost double Hannaford (it was a variety of cheeses mainly).
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: dalebert on September 12, 2008, 08:49 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

BIG difference though. The former can be tracked in an automated fashion, as in, retrieve all the transactions of John Doe per this court order, and with that they can track and develop patterns of the movement of an innocent citizen over a period of time. They can't exactly do that with the latter. The latter tends to be the other way around and more directly appropriate as in, there was a robbery at Shaw's and we caught it on film. Who did it? Even then, without a lot to go on, they only have a face; not a number attached to detailed records.

Don't watch Minority Report though. It'll quickly make you pessimistic about how intrusive the government is likely to get as technology improves.  :P

Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: AntonLee on September 12, 2008, 02:26 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on September 12, 2008, 05:36 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
sweet because I use cash 99% of the time.  Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

..and you haven't shot this camera, why?



One word:  'Spraypaint can on a stick'

OK! that's more than one word!

Sadly, I own no gun.  I was thinking about both ideas actually, the latter being preferable because of it's location and the fact that guns are illegal in MA. . . they represent a "safety concern for the public"  don't cha know   ::lloyds::
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: AntonLee on September 12, 2008, 02:27 PM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on September 12, 2008, 08:49 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 11, 2008, 07:03 PM NHFT
Not sweet because even if they can't track me by ATM/Debit/Credit card. . . they're still getting me on video at Shaw's, through the tollbooth on the way home, and at the red light near my house.

BIG difference though. The former can be tracked in an automated fashion, as in, retrieve all the transactions of John Doe per this court order, and with that they can track and develop patterns of the movement of an innocent citizen over a period of time. They can't exactly do that with the latter. The latter tends to be the other way around and more directly appropriate as in, there was a robbery at Shaw's and we caught it on film. Who did it? Even then, without a lot to go on, they only have a face; not a number attached to detailed records.

Don't watch Minority Report though. It'll quickly make you pessimistic about how intrusive the government is likely to get as technology improves.  :P



but those air computers are completely rad
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 13, 2008, 04:59 AM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on September 12, 2008, 02:26 PM NHFT


Sadly, I own no gun.  I was thinking about both ideas actually, the latter being preferable because of it's location and the fact that guns are illegal in MA. . . they represent a "safety concern for the public"  don't cha know   ::lloyds::

Guns are not illegal in MA - it's just difficult to kiss enough ass to get one.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: AntonLee on September 13, 2008, 04:20 PM NHFT
I have had bouts of depression. . . therefore my Police chief doesn't believe I am safe enough to own a gun "legally"

thankfully that whole "shall not be infringed" part is ignored in Massachusetts.
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: PowerPenguin on September 16, 2008, 04:40 PM NHFT
Quote from: doobie on September 12, 2008, 08:36 AM NHFT
Do the math....  Hanaford/Stop and Shop and still usually much cheaper... at least for the things I buy.  I went to Shaws because it was convenient to buy some things and I ended up leaving because their prices on some items were almost double Hannaford (it was a variety of cheeses mainly).

What kinds of stuff do you buy? I went to a Hannaford last year when I went to PF and it seemed pretty pricey. On the other hand, I'm used to getting relatively cheap produce in CA. I feel relatively certain that Shaws is cheaper than Market Basket, at least when it comes to your typical food and bathroom/kitchen products. If I'm wrong, please let me know! 8-)
Title: Re: Saving $ with Shaws cards
Post by: dalebert on September 17, 2008, 11:08 AM NHFT
Market Basket blows all of them away on prices, and without the hassle of having to carry around any cards or key chains and have your purchases tracked. Unfortunately, they're kind of sparsely located. None are convenient to Keene.  :'( About the only place I've seen compete with them on price is Wal-mart and they have a very limited selection, obviously. I make a point to buy certain staples at Wal-mart.