my wife and i work opposite shifts to avoid daycare because A)we dont believe in it, and B)we can't afford it anyway. not to sound bitchy, but it SUUUUUUCKS. does anyone else here do this? does anyone know of any ways to AVOID doing this? problem is, there's not really any end it sight, because we have no intentions to send them to government school and we can't afford private school : /. most people tell us we should just go on welfare, but we don't believe in that either...having principles can be expensive in such a big government world!
Quote from: Jared on September 28, 2008, 07:33 PM NHFT
does anyone know of any ways to AVOID doing this?
You could always open up your
own daycare business, and send your cubs there!
I feel for you Jared. Everything you said applies to us. I go in very early, my wife starts her job in the afternoon. Yeah, it sucks... and on top of that, in order to make ends meet, I've picked up a couple of things part-time on the weekends... What's sleep? What's "family time"? But don't worry, they're going to steal more of our money to pay off the millionaires who f**ked us over in the financial markets... ::)
We worked opposite shifts for 4 years, until Mary started her own business. And now that she works from home, it's much better. I can work any shift, and we still have plenty of time together. The sprog hasn't been to daycare, other than a few months when he was 1 (and not all day every day, even then).
He's about to turn six, is home-schooled, and reads anything you stick in front of him. He wouldn't be at that level if he'd been to daycare and kindergarten.
Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on September 28, 2008, 07:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 28, 2008, 07:33 PM NHFT
does anyone know of any ways to AVOID doing this?
You could always open up your own daycare business, and send your cubs there!
it's actually pretty tough to get started in this, although i know that my wife would LOVE to just watch a couple kids full time for work. in fact, if anybody reading this needs a full time babysitter (who keeps the tv off and the books open), let me know!
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on September 29, 2008, 06:10 AM NHFT
What's sleep? What's "family time"?
not to mention - what's activism time?
Quote from: KBCraig on September 29, 2008, 12:16 PM NHFT
We worked opposite shifts for 4 years, until Mary started her own business. And now that she works from home, it's much better. I can work any shift, and we still have plenty of time together. The sprog hasn't been to daycare, other than a few months when he was 1 (and not all day every day, even then).
He's about to turn six, is home-schooled, and reads anything you stick in front of him. He wouldn't be at that level if he'd been to daycare and kindergarten.
thanks, that made me feel better :). we don't want our kids to be like some of those zombie children who do nothing but sit in front of the idiot box all day at daycare. we definately plan on home-schooling. i'd actually rather send them to a private school, but there really aren't any good schools around the seacoast. i'm considering st thomas in dover, maybe when they get older.
My parents did that for many years. My friend works 2 jobs while his wife stays home with the kids.
If it comes down to it, sending you kids to government schools makes so much more sense than getting on welfare.
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on September 29, 2008, 09:50 PM NHFT
My parents did that for many years. My friend works 2 jobs while his wife stays home with the kids.
If it comes down to it, sending you kids to government schools makes so much more sense than getting on welfare.
i really don't think i could ever do either
Quote from: Jared on September 29, 2008, 09:59 PM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on September 29, 2008, 09:50 PM NHFT
My parents did that for many years. My friend works 2 jobs while his wife stays home with the kids.
If it comes down to it, sending you kids to government schools makes so much more sense than getting on welfare.
i really don't think i could ever do either
neither of us went to public schools, well, i did but only for 5 years, then i was homeschooled. the idea of sending my brilliant little minds into that atmosphere just kills me. the whole reason my parents pulled me from school was because i was literally breezing through my 'lessons' and trying to see how long i could keep a dime stuck to my forehead for the rest of class. ::)
Quote from: Jared on September 29, 2008, 09:19 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on September 29, 2008, 06:10 AM NHFT
What's sleep? What's "family time"?
not to mention - what's activism time?
True enough! Although, we've been known to "make time" to do something we felt was important. One reason we feel OK with our level of activism is from meeting Lauren and Jim... having them understand our situation... and Lauren being very supportive of our decisions/setup. We help in our own ways. ;)
Quote from: Jared on September 29, 2008, 09:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on September 28, 2008, 07:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 28, 2008, 07:33 PM NHFT
does anyone know of any ways to AVOID doing this?
You could always open up your own daycare business, and send your cubs there!
it's actually pretty tough to get started in this, although i know that my wife would LOVE to just watch a couple kids full time for work. in fact, if anybody reading this needs a full time babysitter (who keeps the tv off and the books open), let me know!
We looked into becoming a daycare facility. We
could do this un-licensed (and we don't feel like we should have to be licensed by the same State that routinely takes kids, puts them in foster care, and allows them to be abused), BUT... The fines are huge if you're "caught" unlicensed. If you
do go through the State licensing, you basically give up your privacy because the license gives the State the ability to come in at any time to check on your setup, your paperwork, etc. Regardless, I checked out how much the additional liability insurance would be and that is pretty high as well... unless you're going to watch 6-8 kids at a pretty good price. Also, I have all of my 1st aid & CPR certs, but the wife needs to get hers. We have to wait for the next class to be held. We still haven't ruled it out, but it will take some time to get everything together to do it if we decide to go that way. We already do educational toys, lots of books (got a little library going!), and good old fashioned human interaction. It would be just wonderful for the little tyke to be able to field strip a 9mm by 5 years old. :o :rofl: <- (smiley captioned for the humor impaired)
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on September 30, 2008, 07:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 29, 2008, 09:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on September 28, 2008, 07:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 28, 2008, 07:33 PM NHFT
does anyone know of any ways to AVOID doing this?
You could always open up your own daycare business, and send your cubs there!
it's actually pretty tough to get started in this, although i know that my wife would LOVE to just watch a couple kids full time for work. in fact, if anybody reading this needs a full time babysitter (who keeps the tv off and the books open), let me know!
We looked into becoming a daycare facility. We could do this un-licensed (and we don't feel like we should have to be licensed by the same State that routinely takes kids, puts them in foster care, and allows them to be abused), BUT... The fines are huge if you're "caught" unlicensed. If you do go through the State licensing, you basically give up your privacy because the license gives the State the ability to come in at any time to check on your setup, your paperwork, etc. Regardless, I checked out how much the additional liability insurance would be and that is pretty high as well... unless you're going to watch 6-8 kids at a pretty good price. Also, I have all of my 1st aid & CPR certs, but the wife needs to get hers. We have to wait for the next class to be held. We still haven't ruled it out, but it will take some time to get everything together to do it if we decide to go that way. We already do educational toys, lots of books (got a little library going!), and good old fashioned human interaction. It would be just wonderful for the little tyke to be able to field strip a 9mm by 5 years old. :o :rofl: <- (smiley captioned for the humor impaired)
where are you located? maybe we could join forces in start a pro-freedom daycare :).
I think sending kids to government schools you pay for is not unprincipled. Make a big deal out of every little thing (if they 'force' kids to say the pledge), and teach your children the nature of authority. Government schools are mostly a monopoly, but the individuals in it still have some semblance of responsibility.
Quote from: Coconut on September 30, 2008, 06:36 PM NHFT
I think sending kids to government schools you pay for is not unprincipled. Make a big deal out of every little thing (if they 'force' kids to say the pledge), and teach your children the nature of authority. Government schools are mostly a monopoly, but the individuals in it still have some semblance of responsibility.
And if the situation with a particular teacher or administrator becomes intolerable, just tell the kid to ask for a private conference, arrange for a few friends to be outside the area, then shut the door, unzip your pants, untuck your shirt, yell, "Get your hands off me, you pervert!" and from that point on, you can pretty well write your own script . . .
Quote from: Coconut on September 30, 2008, 06:36 PM NHFT
I think sending kids to government schools you pay for is not unprincipled. Make a big deal out of every little thing (if they 'force' kids to say the pledge), and teach your children the nature of authority. Government schools are mostly a monopoly, but the individuals in it still have some semblance of responsibility.
except that it's funded through the government aggression of taxation.
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on September 30, 2008, 07:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 29, 2008, 09:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on September 28, 2008, 07:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 28, 2008, 07:33 PM NHFT
does anyone know of any ways to AVOID doing this?
You could always open up your own daycare business, and send your cubs there!
it's actually pretty tough to get started in this, although i know that my wife would LOVE to just watch a couple kids full time for work. in fact, if anybody reading this needs a full time babysitter (who keeps the tv off and the books open), let me know!
ASlong as you wait till they are six to give them live ammo ;D
We looked into becoming a daycare facility. We could do this un-licensed (and we don't feel like we should have to be licensed by the same State that routinely takes kids, puts them in foster care, and allows them to be abused), BUT... The fines are huge if you're "caught" unlicensed. If you do go through the State licensing, you basically give up your privacy because the license gives the State the ability to come in at any time to check on your setup, your paperwork, etc. Regardless, I checked out how much the additional liability insurance would be and that is pretty high as well... unless you're going to watch 6-8 kids at a pretty good price. Also, I have all of my 1st aid & CPR certs, but the wife needs to get hers. We have to wait for the next class to be held. We still haven't ruled it out, but it will take some time to get everything together to do it if we decide to go that way. We already do educational toys, lots of books (got a little library going!), and good old fashioned human interaction. It would be just wonderful for the little tyke to be able to field strip a 9mm by 5 years old. :o :rofl: <- (smiley captioned for the humor impaired)
Quote from: Jared on September 30, 2008, 03:01 PM NHFT
where are you located? maybe we could join forces in start a pro-freedom daycare :).
Hi Jared,
We're currently located in north central taxachusetts. We've been in the process of trying to sell and move to NH for several years, but have, unfortunately, been bitten by the current RE market. I have some land in NH, but no house. Have property in the southeast U.S. as well... Mainly because of these forums, we're looking at Keene for our move (when it occurs), but also have friends in other areas that we're looking at. Our goal is to make the move soon. With the economy, it may take awhile. Regardless, our "drop dead date" is sometime in 2012 (at the VERY latest... no matter what's going on with the economy!)...
Quote from: bouncer on October 01, 2008, 05:33 PM NHFT
ASlong as you wait till they are six to give them live ammo ;D
;D
This reminds me of a time around 7 years ago when I was pulled over (yeah, not long after the attacks). The officer noticed a tactical folding knife on the seat and had a conniption fit about it. I told him that I wasn't his enemy, had no intention of harming him and that if I did want to harm him I'd use the .38 on my hip, not the knife on the seat. THEN he realized that I was carrying and asked, "Do you have a license for that? Is it loaded?" To which I said, "I am lawfully carrying my firearm." and "It isn't any good if it isn't." He gave me a warning for a burned out tail-light. ;) :tiphat:
Soooo... If the kids can break down and reassemble the firearm to clean it, then they're old enough to learn the rules of using it. If they're old enough to learn the rules of using it, they're old enough to have the ammo! :crazy3:
On a somewhat related note. At a large family get-together this past weekend, one of my brother-in-laws (who's extremely left-wing... just to the left of Stalin) asked me what I would do when (not if, but
when) my little tyke grows up to be a "flaming liberal". I told him that if the kid was that stupid, I'd put him out of my misery, BUT... luckily, the kid has already shown more intelligence than any of the Statists that I know! ::lloyds:: :punk:
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on October 02, 2008, 07:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 30, 2008, 03:01 PM NHFT
where are you located? maybe we could join forces in start a pro-freedom daycare :).
Hi Jared,
We're currently located in north central taxachusetts. We've been in the process of trying to sell and move to NH for several years, but have, unfortunately, been bitten by the current RE market. I have some land in NH, but no house. Have property in the southeast U.S. as well... Mainly because of these forums, we're looking at Keene for our move (when it occurs), but also have friends in other areas that we're looking at. Our goal is to make the move soon. With the economy, it may take awhile. Regardless, our "drop dead date" is sometime in 2012 (at the VERY latest... no matter what's going on with the economy!)...
it seems the real estate situation is affecting a lot of free staters' plans right now. i know that it will probably effect our plans to move closer to deerfield. we had been looking for houses this summer, with no real luck so we decided to wait until winter...but after what has been happening, it seems unlikely we will be able to get approved for a decent loan : /.
Quote from: Jared on October 02, 2008, 03:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on October 02, 2008, 07:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 30, 2008, 03:01 PM NHFT
where are you located? maybe we could join forces in start a pro-freedom daycare :).
Hi Jared,
We're currently located in north central taxachusetts. We've been in the process of trying to sell and move to NH for several years, but have, unfortunately, been bitten by the current RE market. I have some land in NH, but no house. Have property in the southeast U.S. as well... Mainly because of these forums, we're looking at Keene for our move (when it occurs), but also have friends in other areas that we're looking at. Our goal is to make the move soon. With the economy, it may take awhile. Regardless, our "drop dead date" is sometime in 2012 (at the VERY latest... no matter what's going on with the economy!)...
it seems the real estate situation is affecting a lot of free staters' plans right now. i know that it will probably effect our plans to move closer to deerfield. we had been looking for houses this summer, with no real luck so we decided to wait until winter...but after what has been happening, it seems unlikely we will be able to get approved for a decent loan : /.
Save money, and wait until the subprime mortgage crisis fully bottoms out, and you might be able to buy property in cash...
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on October 02, 2008, 04:29 PM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on October 02, 2008, 03:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: FreelanceFreedomFighter on October 02, 2008, 07:00 AM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on September 30, 2008, 03:01 PM NHFT
where are you located? maybe we could join forces in start a pro-freedom daycare :).
Hi Jared,
We're currently located in north central taxachusetts. We've been in the process of trying to sell and move to NH for several years, but have, unfortunately, been bitten by the current RE market. I have some land in NH, but no house. Have property in the southeast U.S. as well... Mainly because of these forums, we're looking at Keene for our move (when it occurs), but also have friends in other areas that we're looking at. Our goal is to make the move soon. With the economy, it may take awhile. Regardless, our "drop dead date" is sometime in 2012 (at the VERY latest... no matter what's going on with the economy!)...
it seems the real estate situation is affecting a lot of free staters' plans right now. i know that it will probably effect our plans to move closer to deerfield. we had been looking for houses this summer, with no real luck so we decided to wait until winter...but after what has been happening, it seems unlikely we will be able to get approved for a decent loan : /.
Save money, and wait until the subprime mortgage crisis fully bottoms out, and you might be able to buy property in cash...
i guess thats probably the best thing to do. problem is, even though it's technically a buyer's market right now, all the sellers have stopped selling! this summer, new properties showed up every day. now, its very rare that anything interesting pops up around here.