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Title: Cheap Gas
Post by: MaineShark on October 13, 2008, 03:10 PM NHFT
Paid $2.719 on 108 in Newmarket (just south of the center of town).

They claim that they're the lowest in the state.  Probably not worth a drive if you aren't in the area, but I was driving through anyway...

Joe
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: K. Darien Freeheart on October 13, 2008, 03:21 PM NHFT
$2.97 ain't bad.

It's $3.19 in my city, $3.39 in the city I work in.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 13, 2008, 03:51 PM NHFT
http://www.newhampshiregasprices.com/Newmarket/index.aspx?
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: margomaps on October 13, 2008, 04:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on October 13, 2008, 03:51 PM NHFT
http://www.newhampshiregasprices.com/Newmarket/index.aspx?

Joe: looks like you may have been swindled to the tune of 2 cents per gallon.  :D

On a related note, can anyone explain why the prices change so much from town to town?  Is it all due to competition and supply-and-demand?  Moving one town over from Newmarket to Lee, the cheapest price is 45 cents/gallon more.  In the past I've heard convenience store owners claim their profit margins on selling gas are miniscule -- a few cents a gallon at best.  But a 45-cent swing between nearby gas stations that surely have the same distribution/transportation/tax burdens seems to cast doubt on that explanation.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: MaineShark on October 13, 2008, 04:09 PM NHFT
Quote from: margomaps on October 13, 2008, 04:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on October 13, 2008, 03:51 PM NHFThttp://www.newhampshiregasprices.com/Newmarket/index.aspx?
Joe: looks like you may have been swindled to the tune of 2 cents per gallon.  :D

The Mini-Mart is more expensive, if you have cash.  If you don't have cash on you, Rockingham Gas has a much higher plastic price.

Quote from: margomaps on October 13, 2008, 04:04 PM NHFTOn a related note, can anyone explain why the prices change so much from town to town?  Is it all due to competition and supply-and-demand?  Moving one town over from Newmarket to Lee, the cheapest price is 45 cents/gallon more.  In the past I've heard convenience store owners claim their profit margins on selling gas are miniscule -- a few cents a gallon at best.  But a 45-cent swing between nearby gas stations that surely have the same distribution/transportation/tax burdens seems to cast doubt on that explanation.

Part of it is that they high-demand areas allow stations to set higher prices.  Another factor is quantity: if a station sells a lot of gas, they can often get a better price, and therefore keep their prices low, allowing them to sell more gas...

And, remember that profit comes after all expenses.  A franchise station may charge more than a generic station in the same area, but still make the same profit margin, because the franchise costs (and worker benefits, and such) may be higher.  The generic station can make money at a lower selling price, due to lower overhead.

Joe
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on October 13, 2008, 04:30 PM NHFT
Budget Gas in Manchester was $2.98 on Saturday. Probably cheaper now.

Gas Buddy (http://www.gasbuddy.com/Gas_Prices/New_Hampshire/index.aspx) can be useful to find good prices.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Jared on October 13, 2008, 05:26 PM NHFT
2.99 in portsmouth today
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: K. Darien Freeheart on October 13, 2008, 05:27 PM NHFT
Gas in the "proper" DC suburbs is insane. I wouldn't be surprised right now hear somewhere in there was still hovering near $4.00 a gallon. That said, Joe is mostly right, and the implied "what other services do the offer" factors in. Gas stations make very little on gas, it's the insane markup on beverages and cigarettes and the like that turns most of their profit.

I've been told that Costco actually sometimes uses gas as a loss-leader to get people to become members. The idea is that once someone's paid for a membership, they'd be more incline to use it in the store.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: MaineShark on October 13, 2008, 06:13 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kevin Dean on October 13, 2008, 05:27 PM NHFTGas stations make very little on gas, it's the insane markup on beverages and cigarettes and the like that turns most of their profit.

Same with lottery, which nets the store very little, but gets the compulsive gamblers in there scratching tickets and buying snacks while they do it.

Of course, if you want insane mark-ups, check out what a 50-pound bag of popcorn kernels costs, wholesale.  Then figure out how much popped popcorn you can make from 50 pounds of kernels, and then sell for $.99 for a little bag or it.  Last I checked it, the profit margin was in the thousands of percent.

Joe
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: dalebert on October 13, 2008, 06:33 PM NHFT
Quote from: MaineShark on October 13, 2008, 06:13 PM NHFT
Of course, if you want insane mark-ups, check out what a 50-pound bag of popcorn kernels costs, wholesale.

I believe the same is true of fountain drinks. I think the most expensive part of the drink is actually the cup, top, and straw.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on October 13, 2008, 08:16 PM NHFT
I've heard that Newmarket is the cheapest in the state, also.  The reason why gas is so cheap in Seabrook is because it has many gas stations, most of which are on the busy Route 1, and is known for cheap gas so lots of people make the drive to visit the area (beaches, race track, strip clubs, stores) and get gas.  I think it is 2.819 right now.  I've noticed that gas usually runs 10 to 30 cents per gallon cheaper than nearby towns.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Pat K on October 13, 2008, 08:26 PM NHFT
3.29 by me on the Isle of Long.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: KBCraig on October 14, 2008, 11:42 AM NHFT
The northeastern tip of Texas seems to always have cheaper gas than the surrounding area, but I did read of $2.41 gas in Little Rock yesterday. I paid $2.659 this morning, although I could have saved a penny by driving around.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: PowerPenguin on October 14, 2008, 09:58 PM NHFT
I paid 3.03 in Hampton yesterday. Exxon/Mobil has a branded credit card that saves 30 cents/gallon for the 1st 2 months (15 cents/gal after). I need to dump my old credit card after I pay it off anyway, so I might go with this one.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: BaRbArIaN on October 16, 2008, 12:45 PM NHFT
$2.77 in Durham NH
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: K. Darien Freeheart on October 16, 2008, 01:58 PM NHFT
QuoteI think the most expensive part of the drink is actually the cup, top, and straw.

Almost always the cup. Most places (at least, in my experience) actually charge for cups now because of that. Try getting just a cup of ice, sometimes they'll charge as much as $0.35 for it. I'm not complaining, I like me some pop, but yeah, it's insane.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Recumbent ReCycler on November 11, 2008, 05:43 PM NHFT
I paid $2.149/gallon a few days ago at the station in front of the Somersworth Wal-Mart.  It looks like some places in NH are selling gas for $1.99/gallon.  http://www.newhampshiregasprices.com (http://www.newhampshiregasprices.com)
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 11, 2008, 07:59 PM NHFT
very cool how things have gotten back to some sanity $2/gallon

have we survived the Bush oil fiasco?
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: margomaps on November 11, 2008, 08:33 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 11, 2008, 07:59 PM NHFThave we survived the Bush oil fiasco?

I think the run-up in commodity prices in general (and oil in particular) had very little to do with Bush or the stupid war.  Bubbles have been forming in various parts of the economy -- "tech equities", mortgages, commodities, financial markets, and so on -- since government started fiddling with the economy on day 1.

Since Obama and the Dems in power now are extremely hostile to using oil, I am more interested in whether their anti-oil policies (reductions/bans on both domestic exploration and foreign imports, more oil taxes, and huge subsidies to non-oil energy sources) will artificially drive the price of oil up to European levels.  We shall see.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 12, 2008, 03:35 AM NHFT
it took an oilman in office to do it right
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 12, 2008, 08:22 AM NHFT
Stock up if you have a way to store it
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: JonM on November 12, 2008, 08:26 AM NHFT
Those damn parafins make it expensive to store.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 12, 2008, 09:34 AM NHFT
I would say it will keep going down.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: JonM on November 12, 2008, 09:51 AM NHFT
Now if you could buy a gas card for X number of gallons, that would be nice.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: dalebert on November 12, 2008, 10:06 AM NHFT
Quote from: Jon Maltz on November 12, 2008, 09:51 AM NHFT
Now if you could buy a gas card for X number of gallons, that would be nice.

Kind of like the new postage stamps.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: KBCraig on November 12, 2008, 03:19 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on November 12, 2008, 08:22 AM NHFT
Stock up if you have a way to store it

Sta-bil.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 12, 2008, 03:29 PM NHFT
I saw $2.14 in Concord.  :)
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Recumbent ReCycler on November 12, 2008, 03:37 PM NHFT
Today I saw gas for $2.059/gallon in Durham.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: neggy on November 12, 2008, 10:14 PM NHFT
wow at these prices I can start driving my truck again!
at 14 mpg I avoid it like the clap... I guess that's why an 06 truck only has 6000 miles on it.
When the plow is on the pig and I'm pushing snow 10 mpg or less.

Luckily my daily driver is close to 30 MPG, our other 3 cars all are around 22 mpg

the bikes are 40 mpg plus

I think there is still  some 4.50 a gallon gas in my premium fuel only Harley.

I didn't feel guilty today using the leaf blower !

2.239 in Southern NH
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: KBCraig on November 13, 2008, 10:23 AM NHFT
There are two things that don't suck about still being in Texas:

1) Gas is $1.909, and still falling.
2) I haven't had to pay for heating yet. We're still sleeping with the windows open. On the other hoof, we're still trying to pay off the summer's A/C bills, so it's a wash.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Toadstool on November 13, 2008, 02:11 PM NHFT
google hho

also I add 3 oz of acetone 3 oz of xylene and 3 oz of diesle fuel to my car every tank, I skip 5th tank...
adds 15 % mpg in my car.. my truck get 18% better...  the additives in fuel kill mpg, the 10% they add...the ethanol
\

many good ways to add mpg
add air to tires.
run easy on gas
I will be finding ways to better mpg and I will make a good post
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: neggy on November 13, 2008, 03:50 PM NHFT
I saw $1.999 at 3 unbranded stations on Salem Street in Medford this afternoon
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Pat McCotter on November 14, 2008, 03:55 PM NHFT
http://www.newhampshiregasprices.com/
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 16, 2008, 08:52 PM NHFT
I paid $1.88 out by Lauren's jail today.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: JonM on November 16, 2008, 09:47 PM NHFT
$1.939 at the gas station closest to me, which is now one of the cheapeast in the area after it became an Irving.  When it was Mobil it was middle of the pack on price.  Did not really expect to see prices like this again for a long while.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: dalebert on November 16, 2008, 10:16 PM NHFT
Darn. I thought I was doing alright at $2.09 today on 125 coming back from the Lauren jail protest. Well, they were out of regular and gave me super at the regular price. Don't really care though. As I understand, it doesn't make any difference unless you have an unusual car that needs premium gas.

Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 17, 2008, 08:03 AM NHFT
There was a guy at the Evan Nappen move that published a pamphlet about saving fuel.. Anyone remember him?
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 17, 2008, 09:16 AM NHFT
You mean Hunter?
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Toadstool on November 17, 2008, 10:16 AM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on November 16, 2008, 10:16 PM NHFT
Darn. I thought I was doing alright at $2.09 today on 125 coming back from the Lauren jail protest. Well, they were out of regular and gave me super at the regular price. Don't really care though. As I understand, it doesn't make any difference unless you have an unusual car that needs premium gas.



You will get better gas mileage with 93 oct. burns more complete, and now that they water down our gas with ethanol, ethanol in 10% will drop mpg by up to 50%!

I been on a MPG project for awhile, well since it hit $4 a gal.  My cars are tuned to run 93 so I gotta pay top dollar.
more good info on gas guys.

http://brightgreen.us/lubedev/smartgas/
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 18, 2008, 12:05 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on November 17, 2008, 08:03 AM NHFT
There was a guy at the Evan Nappen move that published a pamphlet about saving fuel.. Anyone remember him?
you mean the guy from Hudson who spent about a week at  Burning Porcupine?
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 18, 2008, 06:42 AM NHFT
I do have a memory of running into him again.  Didn't realize it was that recently.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: JonM on November 18, 2008, 06:47 AM NHFT
Hunter is usually at taproom tuesday.
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: PowerPenguin on November 19, 2008, 07:14 PM NHFT
Quote from: Toadstool on November 13, 2008, 02:11 PM NHFT
google hho

also I add 3 oz of acetone 3 oz of xylene and 3 oz of diesle fuel to my car every tank, I skip 5th tank...
adds 15 % mpg in my car.. my truck get 18% better...  the additives in fuel kill mpg, the 10% they add...the ethanol
\

many good ways to add mpg
add air to tires.
run easy on gas
I will be finding ways to better mpg and I will make a good post

2 questions:

1. How long have you been doing this? (Other additives I've tried for various purposes haven't done anything one way or the other)
2. Where does one get xylene?
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on November 20, 2008, 09:55 AM NHFT
It's 176.9 at the gas station next to where I used to live in Memphis but it's usually 10cents less in south Memphis (but I don't like that place).
Title: Re: Cheap Gas
Post by: Peacemaker on November 20, 2008, 06:25 PM NHFT
 $1.85 today at Gas Station where Keith pumps his gas when he's in New Hampshire on the Seacoast.