Poll
Question:
Which full moon should Burning Porcupine 2009 be held around?
Option 1: June 7th
votes: 4
Option 2: July 7th
votes: 15
Option 3: August 6th
votes: 10
Option 4: September 4th
votes: 6
Here is a place for us to discuss when we should hold Burning Porcupine 2009.
Anyone that helped make Burning Porcupine 2008 happen and/or plans on participating this year should throw in their preferences.
I will set up a poll as we go along.
If you know people that don't frequent this forum, please add their input here also.
I think we should decide pretty soon, so people can plan.
I liked holding it during summer last year and right up to the full moon worked well.
Our solar showers also work better in the heat. :)
Anytime in July or August sounds good to me. The full moon was fantastic when it wasn't cloudy as you could walk around in the dark without a light.
January is a rough time for me.
alright ... so maybe January is out
Yeah I think the snow load might
be a bit much for the fun tent. ;D
41 mag and I were enjoying the almost full moon yesterday ... and I starting thinking about Burning Porcupine
I was wondering why we hadn't chosen the date yet.
I vote for July 7th.
I think August might be too hot.
/2 cents
Quote from: Puke on November 11, 2008, 07:57 PM NHFT
I vote for July 7th.
I think August might be too hot.
/2 cents
You only need to come out at night anyway.
Quote from: Puke on November 11, 2008, 07:57 PM NHFT
I think August might be too hot.
Go live in GA for a summer please, whiner. ;)
Sept 4 is the start of Labor Day weekend, which allows more porcs to fit it into their work/school schedules.
And the weather was pretty nice this year at that time.
Russel, what's the sky forecast for that weekend?
http://www.seasky.org/astronomy/astronomy_calendar_2009.html
the most interesting stuph from this site is an evening lunar eclipse on 8/6 and a meteor shower on 8/12,13,14 after the moon sets
it could also rain every day like last time :(
I like the September idea also, since the weather is nice and there are already some red trees, but July and August have some virtues.
Is it better to be on a holiday or not?
I think the holiday weekend has some advantage for those folks still doing that 9 to 5 thing.
The 8/6 eclipse might be disappointing , but I agree that a full moon is nice.
"Most penumbral eclipses are pretty uninteresting, since the Moon is still quite brightly lit, except in the most advanced stages. Still, in a deep penumbral eclipse, sharp-eyed observers should see a subtle but distinct shading across the Moon at maximum eclipse. This will be quite obvious in a total penumbral eclipse. " (This one won't be total)
C'mon now, there were SEVERAL days without precipitation last time. ;D
Quote from: jerry on November 12, 2008, 02:21 AM NHFT
I think the holiday weekend has some advantage for those folks still doing that 9 to 5 thing.
it is true ... many people come from short distances and might just be there for a weekend
Quote from: dalebert on November 11, 2008, 08:56 PM NHFT
Go live in GA for a summer please, whiner. ;)
Four years, in southern GA, 2 in central Texas, 2 in Middle East.
I've had my fun in the sun. >:(
I like Sept. 4th. Who knows maybe we can even grind a few early apples into cider.
that does make sense ... especially if the Grafton Apple Festival becomes a Grafton green thang
You know, during Porcfest shouldn't necessarily be looked at as "sticking it to them". Grafton isn't very far of a drive from Gunstock and it's probably not that hard to do some of both. One could camp at Hoyt and enjoy the fun tent and just commute to Gunstock for certain events that primarily fall during the day on the weekends.
so you want to vote for June?
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 12, 2008, 07:25 AM NHFT
so you want to vote for June?
Not necessarily. Truth is, I'll prolly attend a significant portion of it whenever it falls.
Guess we're looking at two Burning Porcupine Festivals. Perhaps BP lite during Porcfest as Dale suggested and one in Aug or Sept.
So you guys want one at beginning of June, Lloyd?
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on November 12, 2008, 07:47 AM NHFT
Guess we're looking at two Burning Porcupine Festivals. Perhaps BP lite during Porcfest as Dale suggested and one in Aug or Sept.
How about Free Town Fest in June?
I don't like the term Burning Porcupine enough to use it for everything.
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 12, 2008, 09:30 AM NHFT
I don't like the term Burning Porcupine enough to use it for everything.
I love the term, but I agree that it should be used only once a year or its meaning gets watered down.
interesting vote spread
I was just thinking today that we should have events going on at Hoyt farm during Porcfest and it should just be thought of as an extension of Porcfest rather than a competition. Think about it. It's not that far from Gunstock. People could easily camp at Hoyt farm for free and party at the Fun Tent and carpool over to Gunstock for speakers or other events that they're interested in. Most of the stuph is during the day on the weekend. People who are doing the bus tours could camp at PF during the week and then either move over to Hoyt for the weekend or just stay at Gunstock if they don't wanna pack up, and commute to Hoyt to party with us. This is kind of a no brainer, really. Sounds easy enough to do.
Whatcha think?
decent people are welcome to camp here next summer, including during Porcfest, they just need to get in touch with us ahead of time
If you would like to organize, or help with some events during that time, that would be great.
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 11, 2008, 06:02 PM NHFT
If you know people that don't frequent this forum, please add their input here also.
I don't frequent the forum as often as I should, so I'm glad I saw this. I voted for September, just because a bonfire seems more amenable in the cooler weather. But what do I know? And really, I'll be enjoying it whatever time it happens! ;D
I am voting July because I would like my children to be exposed to as much liberty oriented activity as possible, over a longer period of time while they are out for the summer.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on November 12, 2008, 08:06 AM NHFT
So you guys want one at beginning of June, Lloyd?
I've given it some thought. It might be nice to have the showers running, a porta potty or two and some amenities for visitors and campers just before, during and just after Porcfest, and have an open invitation to the folks attending PF to come and hang out in Grafton.
I am planning on us having some stuph up and running for the whole summer.
We are planning more permanent solutions, so it will not just be for a week or so. :)
shyfrog's kids might be the deciding factor for me :)
You know, you could seriously undercut the cost of campsites in Gunstock and put that money into a fund to enhance the facilities on the farm for future events, starting with some sort of permanent toilets and showers.
nah
;D
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 12, 2008, 09:30 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on November 12, 2008, 07:47 AM NHFT
Guess we're looking at two Burning Porcupine Festivals. Perhaps BP lite during Porcfest as Dale suggested and one in Aug or Sept.
How about Free Town Fest in June?
I don't like the term Burning Porcupine enough to use it for everything.
A Free Town Fest in June would give the bus tour from Porcfest somewhere to go TO.
I heard the bus tour to Grafton last year was a bit of a disappointment.
It would be a good opportunity to encourage settling in Grafton to incoming porcs.
I agree.
We could send the bus to all of the best locations in Grafton ... we could get them lost on the back roads long enough that the entire busload would just have to buy land and start living in the town. ;)
that sounds like a great idea russell just have them use a navigation system and their bound to end up on some back woods dead end road or class 6 non maintained rd. land prices will probably be cheaper by then id bet .grafton is a nice county in my opinion as a native all counties north of merrimack are woodsy and quaint small towns i think manchester has more pople than all of coos county which i believe has the most land than any county in NH. and is beautiful land .although i think grafton county is just as nice ive just always been a hermit and the more spread out my neighbors are the better i like them.but some need the bright lights of the city. i'll take a bonfire over city lights and ordinances any day especially without a permit.no matter what county you choose just get to NH. We need you and all liberty lovers..so come live free or die
any reason we shouldn't set it up for August?
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 14, 2008, 12:22 AM NHFT
We could send the bus to all of the best locations in Grafton ... we could get them lost on the back roads long enough that the entire busload would just have to buy land and start living in the town. ;)
You guys should come up with your own Grafton map since all the others seem to be outdated.
we don't want to make it too easy :)
I'm posting this here as well (just in case anyone missed it on that other burning porc post)
My children will be missing PorcFest this year due to the early dates. They will be flying out on June 15th (or soon after) and flying back July 27th.
I really want them to be exposed, as much as possible, to the liberty movement while they are with me.
They were extremely disappointed when I informed them they couldn't attend PorcFest. I think they might enjoy Burning Porc more anyway :icon_pirat:
I'm just throwing that out for consideration and I realize I am only one voice in the wilderness :P
A couple of benefits of having it after PF, that I can think of:
1) It should be warmer
2) We can promote it AT Porcfest
3) Gives a little more time to improve the facilities
4) Less bugs. Beginning of June is prime bug season
My vote would be for July. I think it would be nice to have it when Shyfrog's kids are here. More kids at Burning Porcupine is a very good thing! I'm sure the pres would agree if he were here, but he has been whisked away to a secret location for high level talks and activities. 8)
How sharp are his kids? We could have them over for a Bonfire in July and tell them it's Buring Porc!
Sharp as porcupine quills... and they latch on tight
;D
I am officially volunteering to help in anything that may be needed (graphics, promotional materials, web, music, sound, recording, performance, etc) for Burning Porc 2009.
I'm still hoping it will be held when my children are able to attend :icon_pirat:
We can be bought! ;D
Your kids won't be here in August, Shyfrog?
no :( They are here June 15 - July 24th or so.
OK :)
BURNING PORC-SINGED FROG 2009!!
Since we don't have much reason for any other date .... maybe Shyfrog and his kids are a good excuse to just choose the weekend near Independence Day. :)
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 25, 2008, 07:31 AM NHFT
Since we don't have much reason for any other date .... maybe Shyfrog and his kids are a good excuse to just choose the weekend near Independence Day. :)
I think accommodating kids is a most excellent excuse for just about anything!
Burning Porcupine 2009...it's for Fun, and the Children.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on November 25, 2008, 07:45 AM NHFT
Burning Porcupine 2009...it's for Fun, and the Children.
At the risk of sounding just like the gooberment, I agree. :)
What is the future of Liberty without them anyway? :icon_pirat:
Quote from: shyfrog on November 25, 2008, 09:03 AM NHFT
What is the future of Liberty without them anyway? :icon_pirat:
Exactly!! Yay for free kids!! ;D
Quote from: Libertine on November 25, 2008, 12:34 PM NHFT
Quote from: shyfrog on November 25, 2008, 09:03 AM NHFT
What is the future of Liberty without them anyway? :icon_pirat:
Exactly!! Yay for free kids!! ;D
Free kids? I'll take 2 or 3. Hell, give me a half-dozen! I can find a good use for 'em, especially if they're free. :)
On behalf of WOLF1 and the CMUL3512, I must protest that every date under consideration falls under a full moon. Screw you and your little tent! :pout:
1Werewolves Organized for Lupis Freedom
2Consolidated Monsters Union Local
Quote from: Mike Barskey on November 25, 2008, 12:58 PM NHFT
Quote from: Libertine on November 25, 2008, 12:34 PM NHFT
Quote from: shyfrog on November 25, 2008, 09:03 AM NHFT
What is the future of Liberty without them anyway? :icon_pirat:
Exactly!! Yay for free kids!! ;D
Free kids? I'll take 2 or 3. Hell, give me a half-dozen! I can find a good use for 'em, especially if they're free. :)
I love children!
Yes I do!
Boiled
Broiled
Or
In
A
Stew!
Quote from: Mike Barskey on November 25, 2008, 12:58 PM NHFT
Quote from: Libertine on November 25, 2008, 12:34 PM NHFT
Quote from: shyfrog on November 25, 2008, 09:03 AM NHFT
What is the future of Liberty without them anyway? :icon_pirat:
Exactly!! Yay for free kids!! ;D
Free kids? I'll take 2 or 3. Hell, give me a half-dozen! I can find a good use for 'em, especially if they're free. :)
I wondered if someone would pick up on that, I should have known it would be you! ;)
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on November 25, 2008, 09:18 PM NHFT
I love children! Yes I do!
Boiled
Broiled
Or
In
A
Stew!
Whoa, Lloyd!! Is THAT what you're serving up at potluck Fridays?!?!
Toddler Stroganoff!
That's what keeps em coming!
I was originally liking the August idea ... but I am coming around to July.
I like the idea of just holding Burning Porcupine every year around the 4th of July.
We could start up the poll again with just 2 choices and get comments.
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 27, 2008, 06:44 PM NHFT
I was originally liking the August idea ... but I am coming around to July.
I like the idea of just holding Burning Porcupine every year around the 4th of July.
We could start up the poll again with just 2 choices and get comments.
Okay with me :)
well ... we have discussed things with the schnergenbergers and they say it is ok if we hold Burning Porcupine 2009 around the 4th of July
Soooo
I looked at the calendar and July 4th is a Saturday.
Should we have the 3,4,5 of July be our big weekend?
Should the rest of BP be before or after ... or both?
Maybe try to have it so that it also covers the full moon night?
howling like a wolf night
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on November 29, 2008, 08:21 PM NHFT
Maybe try to have it so that it also covers the full moon night?
that would be easy if we went from July 1st to the 7th
Burning Porcupine
one week of howling at the moon
actually we will be listening to the coyotes do that
we can watch the moon rise over smith mountain as we sip our drinks
then the killer fog starts moving in...
Independence Day/Week sounds good to us. :D
so ... it sounds like the 1st through the 7th
What Month? :P
July. :P
Only one week this time? :P
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 30, 2008, 04:33 PM NHFT
so ... it sounds like the 1st through the 7th
Sounds great! :)
I'm just nervous about sleeping outside in a tent and I'm really afraid of frogs and toads. Usually I don't go out after dark during the spring and summer because of frogs. I don't want to go home though because I'll miss out on a lot of fun. Any suggestions? I guess I could bring a flashlight to see if there are any frogs around, huh?
This frog is shy
Quote from: raineyrocks on November 30, 2008, 10:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 30, 2008, 04:33 PM NHFT
so ... it sounds like the 1st through the 7th
Sounds great! :)
I'm just nervous about sleeping outside in a tent and I'm really afraid of frogs and toads. Usually I don't go out after dark during the spring and summer because of frogs. I don't want to go home though because I'll miss out on a lot of fun. Any suggestions? I guess I could bring a flashlight to see if there are any frogs around, huh?
Rainey Rainey Rainey
I spent about 12 days up at Burning Porc
last year in a tent and was unscathed.
I was never attacked by frogs or toads
or dinosaurs. Your only worry should be not
tenting to close to me as I snore loud.
Flash lights are a good idea.These type are good cause
your hands are free to fight off werewolfs and stuff. ;D
(http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50008829/LED_Head_Lamp.jpg)
Quote from: shyfrog on November 30, 2008, 10:34 PM NHFT
This frog is shy
Yeah and I'm pretty sure your not going to jump out of the blades of grass and land on my foot. :) It has happened to me before, that's not why I'm scared, I was scared before that incident. Now I just know it will happen to me if I'm out in the spring/summer in the dark when I can't see them. :o
Quote from: Pat K on November 30, 2008, 10:58 PM NHFT
Quote from: raineyrocks on November 30, 2008, 10:25 PM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on November 30, 2008, 04:33 PM NHFT
so ... it sounds like the 1st through the 7th
Sounds great! :)
I'm just nervous about sleeping outside in a tent and I'm really afraid of frogs and toads. Usually I don't go out after dark during the spring and summer because of frogs. I don't want to go home though because I'll miss out on a lot of fun. Any suggestions? I guess I could bring a flashlight to see if there are any frogs around, huh?
Rainey Rainey Rainey
I spent about 12 days up at Burning Porc
last year in a tent and was unscathed.
I was never attacked by frogs or toads
or dinosaurs. Your only worry should be not
tenting to close to me as I snore loud.
Flash lights are a good idea.These type are good cause
your hands are free to fight off werewolfs and stuff. ;D
(http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50008829/LED_Head_Lamp.jpg)
Thanks Pat! I just can't stand the feeling or impending feeling of a slimy frog/toad on my skin, I know they don't hurt people. Perhaps a cheap pop up camper or something would be better than a tent, then I can just stay in a certain perimeter, (sp?). What do you think of that idea Pat?
I snore too sometimes and anyways nothing keeps me awake except fear which I will medicate myself for in the wilderness. :D
Reading about shyfrogs kids kinda made me think that maybe we should market this towards the younger crowd, ya know? Early June makes it difficult not just for the younger grade school kids and their families, but for the high school students that are excited to get here as well. If we do try and promote this on a large scale, I think pointing out that it'll be ideal for the younger crowd.
If the full moon is on July 7th, my birthday falls two days later. I want Mark to make some more of those yummy beer sausages and bring them so we can have a party on my birthday and call it a sausage fest. >:D
Quote from: dalebert on December 01, 2008, 03:37 PM NHFT
If the full moon is on July 7th, my birthday falls two days later. I want Mark to make some more of those yummy beer sausages and bring them so we can have a party on my birthday and call it a sausage fest. >:D
Just for you Dale.
(http://www.thebathtub.net/the_bathtub/images/2007/06/24/800pxsouth_of_the_border_sign_10__y.jpg)
Quote from: Pat K on December 01, 2008, 06:33 PM NHFT
Just for you Dale.
(http://www.thebathtub.net/the_bathtub/images/2007/06/24/800pxsouth_of_the_border_sign_10__y.jpg)
Hey, is that Caleb?
lol
Quote from: shyfrog on November 30, 2008, 10:04 PM NHFT
Only one week this time? :P
you can visit before or afterward if you are not too afraid of the frogs
Quote from: dalebert on December 01, 2008, 03:37 PM NHFT
If the full moon is on July 7th, my birthday falls two days later. I want Mark to make some more of those yummy beer sausages and bring them so we can have a party on my birthday and call it a sausage fest. >:D
if you would like to plan an addendum to Burning Porcupine, that sounds good in my book
We can call your party
Dale's Sausage Fest
(http://www.legaljuice.com/sausage.jpg)
Caption: suntanning in the age of ozone depletion.
;D ;D
O-K now caption this.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v646/bobmitchell/blog%20pics/its%20funny%20panel%20friday/olsenhotdog.jpg)
Or: Was this thing 'stuffed' or 'pinched'?
Dale, riding the big weenie :)
Maybe this could be an event at Bunring Porc 09:
Silent Bob has an excavator, right? :)
Quote from: Mike Barskey on December 16, 2008, 11:40 AM NHFT
Maybe this could be an event at Bunring Porc 09:
Bunring Porc? BUN RING PORC? Now that sounds like a very interesting event!