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Title: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 05:38 PM NHFT
Is anyone going to the secessionist convention? Would anyone mind coming with me in a rental truck to help me pick up a few pieces of furniture from Kate in Bedford (near Manchester) and deliver them to a basement in Stratham so that I can have them when the porc manor opens at the end of the month? I'm going to need a LOT of furniture and this is a chance for free furniture.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on November 13, 2008, 05:44 PM NHFT
I may.  PS, it looks like rain on Sat so you need to plan for that.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Puke on November 13, 2008, 05:45 PM NHFT
Depending on the time I can help.
There is the party at 2pm at Dawn's.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 05:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on November 13, 2008, 05:45 PM NHFT
Depending on the time I can help.
There is the party at 2pm at Dawn's.

Aw, crap. I'm prolly not gonna be able to make that.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Sam A. Robrin on November 13, 2008, 06:09 PM NHFT
Tell us more about the Porc Manor in Keene.  I'm aiming to get to town one step ahead of the Historic First One hundred Days, and will be needing a place to stay.  (Just gave notice on my wonderful house of the past eleven years, so I guess it's a go!)
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Tom Sawyer on November 13, 2008, 06:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on November 13, 2008, 06:09 PM NHFT
Tell us more about the Porc Manor in Keene.  I'm aiming to get to town one step ahead of the Historic First One hundred Days, and will be needing a place to stay.  (Just gave notice on my wonderful house of the past eleven years, so I guess it's a go!)
I have seen it, but I ain't talkin'... very  8)
;D
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 06:36 PM NHFT
I'd be willing to help carry stuff in on Saturday in Stratham
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 06:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 06:36 PM NHFT
I'd be willing to help carry stuff in on Saturday in Stratham

I'd really appreciate it. I'm trying to work out crash space Friday night and pick up a rental truck. We'll need to fit Kate's schedule Saturday morning and I don't know the details yet. How flexible is your schedule Sat morning?

Sam, I'm being hired as the on-site property manager for the new porc manor. It has pretty decent-sized bedrooms and a large living space. At first it may be a bit scant, but I'm working on furnishing it. Rooms will run around $500-$600 and it will soon have cable tv, wifi, utilities are included, a nice rec room for watching movies and playing video games, etc. It's 3 miles East of the Main St./101 intersection from Keene.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 06:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 06:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 06:36 PM NHFT
I'd be willing to help carry stuff in on Saturday in Stratham

I'd really appreciate it. I'm trying to work out crash space Friday night and pick up a rental truck. We'll need to fit Kate's schedule Saturday morning and I don't know the details yet. How flexible is your schedule Sat morning?

Sam, I'm being hired as the on-site property manager for the new porc manor. It has pretty decent-sized bedrooms and a large living space. At first it may be a bit scant, but I'm working on furnishing it. Rooms will run around $500-$600 and it will soon have cable tv, wifi, utilities are included, a nice rec room for watching movies and playing video games, etc. It's 3 miles East of the Main St./101 intersection from Keene.


I'm open Saturday until 3:30pm, the anniversary and my girl would not be too thrilled with me if I told her I was hauling furniture in lol
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Jim Johnson on November 13, 2008, 07:33 PM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on November 13, 2008, 06:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on November 13, 2008, 06:09 PM NHFT
Tell us more about the Porc Manor in Keene.  I'm aiming to get to town one step ahead of the Historic First One hundred Days, and will be needing a place to stay.  (Just gave notice on my wonderful house of the past eleven years, so I guess it's a go!)
I have seen it, but I ain't talkin'... very  8)
;D

I've seen it... so jealous.   ;D
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Friday on November 13, 2008, 07:38 PM NHFT
OMG, dalebert bought a house before me?  Am I the last of the real estate primadonnas?!  Friday's Freehold remains a pipe dream at present.  :weed:
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on November 13, 2008, 07:47 PM NHFT
Friday, start a porcmanor in Nashua!  You might need to limit the cars to only part of the place though :)
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 08:20 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on November 13, 2008, 07:38 PM NHFT
OMG, dalebert bought a house before me?  Am I the last of the real estate primadonnas?!  Friday's Freehold remains a pipe dream at present.  :weed:

I'm being hired to manage it but I'll get to live in it. Fringe benefits.  ;D
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 08:24 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 06:49 PM NHFT
I'm open Saturday until 3:30pm, the anniversary and my girl would not be too thrilled with me if I told her I was hauling furniture in lol

So are you in Manch for the secessionist convention? I'm picking the truck up Fri evening and crashing in Manch at Porc Central. Then I'll drive the truck over to Kate's, get the stuph, drive to Stratham and unload and return the truck in Manch. We should be able to get done well before 3:30. Should I meet you at Porc Central Sat morning?
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 13, 2008, 08:40 PM NHFT
Quote from: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 06:36 PM NHFT
I'd be willing to help carry stuff in on Saturday in Stratham

Actually I just read this and paid more attention. That would work out fine actually, if you just wanted to meet me at the Stratham location. Not as much driving. Turns out I have help on the loading part so just need help unloading in Stratham. I'll PM you.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: AntonLee on November 13, 2008, 08:41 PM NHFT
ha word that's what I was going to say
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 18, 2008, 03:51 PM NHFT
This is sad, but it looks very unlikely that this porc manor is going to happen after all. It's complicated but what it boils down to is a very elaborate inspection report full of problems and no financial justification for the massive amount of work necessary due to code and zoning laws about how the property can be used.

I'm more disappointed than anyone. As for the furniture that people helped me with, that's not a loss. It will still go to use in SOME porc manor. Just probably not this one.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: AntonLee on November 18, 2008, 03:56 PM NHFT
god damn that's a huge shame Dale. . . damn
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Becky Thatcher on November 18, 2008, 04:34 PM NHFT
That's too bad Dale, it would have been fun.   :-\ 
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on November 18, 2008, 04:39 PM NHFT
Bummer! Don't worry, you'll find another.  There are tons of properties out there right now at down n dirty prices.

Friday, let's get the Friday's Freehold going!  I can help.

Mark
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 18, 2008, 04:53 PM NHFT
Definite Bummer.  I'm guessing the sellers won't come down enough to cover the cost of hoop jumping.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Puke on November 18, 2008, 04:54 PM NHFT
Bummer. But think of it as dodging a bullet.
Maybe the place was wreck in disguise.

Something will come along. What with all the economy stuff going on.  
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 18, 2008, 05:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on November 18, 2008, 04:53 PM NHFT
Definite Bummer.  I'm guessing the sellers won't come down enough to cover the cost of hoop jumping.

We're not even going back to the sellers about lowering the price. What it comes down to is a renovations nightmare that just can't be made worthwhile based on code requirements and zoning restrictions. I picked up the inspection reports today and it was just overwhelming. Found out the church is unrentable without bathrooms and it doesn't even have a sewer line right now (I thought it did when I made the offer) and both properties have sub-standard wiring that has to be replaced before they're even insurable, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. If we could actually use the properties somewhat creatively, we could do all kinds of cool stuph that might make the work justifiable but there's just no way in Hell. To say it's risky is an understatement.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 18, 2008, 05:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: Taxinator on November 18, 2008, 04:39 PM NHFT
Bummer! Don't worry, you'll find another.  There are tons of properties out there right now at down n dirty prices.

Oh, I know. As fun as this could have been (if only the numbers could be made to work), I feel I'm much better off with a more standard leasing endeavor.

Quote
Friday, let's get the Friday's Freehold going!  I can help.

What's that?

The good news is I have time to prepare a little better and I've learned some things that might save me some of the trouble and expense we went to on this place.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Tom Sawyer on November 18, 2008, 05:10 PM NHFT
shit

bummer

this was cool beyond belief
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Friday on November 18, 2008, 05:49 PM NHFT
Quote from: Taxinator on November 18, 2008, 04:39 PM NHFT
Friday, let's get the Friday's Freehold going!  I can help.
With the down payment?! How sweet!  :angel4:
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 18, 2008, 08:19 PM NHFT
Oh, Friday is working on a manor too? Cool!
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on November 21, 2008, 03:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on November 18, 2008, 08:19 PM NHFT
Oh, Friday is working on a manor too? Cool!

Each tenant gets their own cat when they move in :)
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 21, 2008, 04:09 PM NHFT
whether they like it or not!
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Pat K on November 21, 2008, 04:54 PM NHFT
Thats good marketing!
Hard to turn down free
uh never mind.  >:D
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Friday on November 21, 2008, 07:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on November 21, 2008, 03:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on November 18, 2008, 08:19 PM NHFT
Oh, Friday is working on a manor too? Cool!

Each tenant gets their own cat when they move in :)
Naw, that's ny2nh's manor.  How many litters of kittens has she given away now??   :icon_cat: :icon_cat: :icon_cat: :icon_cat: :icon_cat:
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Mike Barskey on November 21, 2008, 08:40 PM NHFT
Dale, I'm sorry to hear it didn't work out. Like already said, try to consider it dodging a bullet. I know first-hand how hard it can be to think logically about something you've invested strong emotions into, though. But like others have said and you've already agreed, another opportunity will arise and it will essentially have to be a better deal. I look forward to helping you with that one!
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: FTL_Ian on November 21, 2008, 09:33 PM NHFT
Here's a cheapie in Keene:

http://www.beangroup.com/real_estate/listings/Multifamily/NH/Keene/660358#
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: dalebert on November 21, 2008, 09:44 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on November 21, 2008, 09:33 PM NHFT
Here's a cheapie in Keene:

http://www.beangroup.com/real_estate/listings/Multifamily/NH/Keene/660358#

That looks nice. Wow, the market's really crashing.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Coconut on November 21, 2008, 10:15 PM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on November 21, 2008, 09:33 PM NHFT
Here's a cheapie in Keene:

http://www.beangroup.com/real_estate/listings/Multifamily/NH/Keene/660358#


Heck I can almost afford that.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: AntonLee on November 22, 2008, 04:32 AM NHFT
ha and it's on beaver street.  You could call it the Beaver Dam Manor!
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Puke on November 22, 2008, 06:43 AM NHFT
What the hell where people doing in 1872 that they needed such a massive house?

There also appears to be a multi-unit building on Main St (Just north of 101.) From the road it looks like a nice place.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: FTL_Ian on November 22, 2008, 11:16 AM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on November 21, 2008, 10:15 PM NHFT
Heck I can almost afford that.

It's worth a look and no doubt they will take less in this economy.  Many sellers are desperate, especially the longer the property has been sitting on the market.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: FTL_Ian on November 22, 2008, 11:19 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on November 22, 2008, 11:16 AM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on November 21, 2008, 10:15 PM NHFT
Heck I can almost afford that.

It's worth a look and no doubt they will take less in this economy.  Many sellers are desperate, especially the longer the property has been sitting on the market.

I haven't run any numbers, but live there and take on some roommates and you can probably turn a small profit.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 22, 2008, 01:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on November 22, 2008, 06:43 AM NHFT
What the hell where people doing in 1872 that they needed such a massive house?

There also appears to be a multi-unit building on Main St (Just north of 101.) From the road it looks like a nice place.

Boarding and feeding all of the people working on the farm. They may have rented rooms out to factory workers, but, they may have just filled it with family.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 22, 2008, 06:06 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on November 22, 2008, 06:43 AM NHFT
What the hell where people doing in 1872 that they needed such a massive house?
not paying half their income in taxes?
not paying high property taxes?

3 generations under one roof?

packing in activists to stick it to the man?
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Coconut on November 23, 2008, 11:15 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on November 22, 2008, 11:19 AM NHFT
Quote from: FTL_Ian on November 22, 2008, 11:16 AM NHFT
Quote from: Coconut on November 21, 2008, 10:15 PM NHFT
Heck I can almost afford that.

It's worth a look and no doubt they will take less in this economy.  Many sellers are desperate, especially the longer the property has been sitting on the market.

I haven't run any numbers, but live there and take on some roommates and you can probably turn a small profit.

Sadly, I prefer hoarding my worthless FRNs than take any kind of risk. I might need therapy.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: error on November 23, 2008, 03:16 PM NHFT
Hoard not your worthless FRNs. Hoard these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krugerrand) instead.
Title: Re: Help with Keene Porc Manor Saturday morning
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on November 23, 2008, 05:22 PM NHFT
And...some of these if you find your Rands a little chewy:

(http://www.restaurantwidow.com/images/tunacan1.jpg)