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Regional Discussion => Merrimack Valley => Manchester => Topic started by: Porcupine Realtor on December 24, 2008, 11:06 PM NHFT

Title: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Porcupine Realtor on December 24, 2008, 11:06 PM NHFT
I saw a long line of about 100 people Monday, December 22nd, waiting at the entrance to the militia HQ in Manchester.  What's that all about?  Unemployed, under-qualified people waiting to get guns and badges?

So I went to the National Guard website.  Here's what it reads:
To provide the state and its political subdivisions with operationally ready units and personnel to protect life and property and to preserve the internal security of the state when ordered by the Governor.  The New Hampshire National Guard, along with other state agencies, assists the State Office of Emergency Management in time of natural disaster.  The Guard may also be called upon to assist the New Hampshire State Police during civil unrest, or the NH Fish and Game Department for search and rescue operations.

So if this is an org to protect NH, why is it hosted on a DoD website with a army.mil URL????  https://www.nh.ngb.army.mil/

We are SO in trouble!
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: John Edward Mercier on December 24, 2008, 11:15 PM NHFT
Because its against the US Constitution for the State to have a standing militia...
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Friday on December 25, 2008, 11:02 AM NHFT
Funny how neither the Union Leader nor the Keene Sentinel find it newsworthy enough to mention that National Guard troops are now patrolling our streets.  I did find this article in the Sentinel mentioning that they're also in New Ipswich, though:

http://www.keenesentinel.com/articles/2008/12/23/opinion/sentinel_editorial/free/id_336049.txt (http://www.keenesentinel.com/articles/2008/12/23/opinion/sentinel_editorial/free/id_336049.txt)

I feel so... safe?
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Puke on December 25, 2008, 11:34 AM NHFT
Wasn't NH declared a disaster area b/c of the ice storm?
Maybe that's why the Nasty Girls (Nat. Guard) are out?
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Friday on December 25, 2008, 11:45 AM NHFT
Wasn't NH declared a disaster area b/c of the ice storm?
Maybe that's why the Nasty Girls (Nat. Guard) are out?
But this is all happening two weeks after the ice storm, when almost everyone's power has already been restored....  any places still without power are out in the boonies, not in Manchester or Keene.  PSNH has removed the link to the ice storm from its front page, apparently no longer considering it significant enough to provide updates on it.
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Puke on December 25, 2008, 05:14 PM NHFT
Wasn't NH declared a disaster area b/c of the ice storm?
Maybe that's why the Nasty Girls (Nat. Guard) are out?
But this is all happening two weeks after the ice storm, when almost everyone's power has already been restored....  any places still without power are out in the boonies, not in Manchester or Keene. 

That's true. Hmmm, curious indeed.
The Army is very slow reacting though...
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: MTPorcupine3 on December 26, 2008, 05:22 PM NHFT
The Army is very slow reacting though...

As a former Marine, I'll vouch for that.  ;)
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on December 26, 2008, 05:30 PM NHFT
A soldier and a Marine were in a Men's room..........
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: J’raxis 270145 on December 29, 2008, 05:27 PM NHFT
Because its against the US Constitution for the State to have a standing militia...

Wait, isn’t that what the statists claim the Second Amendment is there to protect?
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: ahroun_deltori on May 28, 2009, 12:10 PM NHFT
I just recently separated from the Coast Guard and just recently moved to Manchester.  I was wondering where the Militia HQ office was. I was interested in joining after I started seeing how bad things are getting and all.
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Atlas on May 28, 2009, 11:30 PM NHFT
I just recently separated from the Coast Guard and just recently moved to Manchester.  I was wondering where the Militia HQ office was. I was interested in joining after I started seeing how bad things are getting and all.
During an emergency, we can help each other out. We don't need the 'National Guard'. During times of 'civil unrest', I'll take my chances with my S & W - no need for having troops rolling around thinking they're our keepers. Even if people start looting, I doubt NH will see much of it compared to the rest of the country. Do you realize that 'civil unrest' could mean a gathering of liberty activists doing a protest against the state's perversions of power? Ya gotta be careful on this one as it is a touchy issue.
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: John Edward Mercier on June 01, 2009, 11:10 AM NHFT
The militia in NH is per statute. It exists of every able-bodied male of a certain age.
It doesn't form, nor meet, outside the Governor's order... then fits within the legislative statute (regulated).

Its not a standing army... just a bunch of residents called to action in a time of emergency. For the most part it will never happen as several NPs handle emergency situations around the State... sometimes at speeds well beyond the ability to regulate.
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Russell Kanning on August 04, 2009, 08:40 AM NHFT
i heard someone refer to it as the international guard ... i thought that was appropriate ... or is  it just the guys who guard the national government from the rest of us?
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: David on August 25, 2009, 03:51 PM NHFT
It is kinda depressing that there are lines at any recruiting station, considering the abuse the military gets from its political masters, and the jobs they are ordered to do that clearly have nothing to do with defense. 
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: Russell Kanning on August 26, 2009, 07:56 AM NHFT
they are advertising that the job involves helping people in their town .... probably not going to happen
Title: Re: Long line at NH National Guard office
Post by: dalebert on August 26, 2009, 11:06 AM NHFT
I'm reading a magazine, Friends Journal, Quaker Thought and Life Today.

The first article that caught my attention seems particularly good. One thing I'm really liking about Quakers is that they seem to be about action in the real world. The article is about counter-recruitment in high schools and details what some volunteers did with notes about areas where they were successful or not and what all they learned from it. There is so much good effort already out there that Quakers have been doing. Much of it is work they started that took on a life of its own completely outside of the religion and gained followers outside of the Quaker faith. This article talks about one of those.

It just seems silly for us to reinvent the wheel when there is such good work out there that we can get involved with. There are so many resources available that we can learn from so we don't start everything from scratch. Here's an excerpt from the article.

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We provided information about pay, the terms of enlistment, and the problems with the Montgomery G.I. Bill of Rights. We handed out a range of pamphlets over the school year, such as Ask a recruiter; You Don't Have to Join the Military to Go to Gollege, and Help Wanted, on jobs locally available. Our single most powerful piece of literature, one that we always try to have at our counter-recruiting table, is a blank copy of the enlistment document, so that we can point out to students exactly where it says in the Department of Defense enlistment form that any promises made to them (including promises made by recruiters) that are not explicitly written in this contract are invalid and will not be honored; that the length of the term of enlistment is eight years; and that the government is entitled to change all the conditions of the contract at any time, while the recruit is committed to every aspect of the contract, under penalty of law and prison.

This is a re-post from the Free Keene Forum. You can follow this thread over there (http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=1463.msg15691#msg15691) if you like.