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Barskey pulled over again as of 10 minutes ago. Listening to the recorded porc 411 now.

His warrent has shown up to the cop. He's being arrested it looks like, but there are two further messages. Still listening. The cop sounds "nice" as can be for taking a guy's freedom.

edit2: He's technically "under arrest" to go to the station for some paperwork to get a "new court date." But he has not been handcuffed. The cop obviously thinks he's cooperative enough. He even let Mike drive his car to a nearby parking lot so it didn't have to be towed.

Arrested for his bench warrant. Also not letting him free because his car is unregistered. He's in the Amherst police department it sounds like. See latest porc 411s for more information.

 >:(

I wonder if they'll try to get him to sign something...

It beez an amazing amount of info P411. Surprised they let him keep his cell phone. Car towed to his house??? Is he still under detention?

Sorry Mike lost his freedom at least for the night. According to his P411's he is going to be at Valley Street Jail for the night with a 2,000 dollar bail.

I must say the cop was nicer than I would expect, not that it really matters but he did let him drive a bit up the road so he could have his car not towed by the police, didn't handcuff Mike, and seem to repeatedly let Mike use his cellphone even after being at the police station.

If he doesn't pay the $2000 bail, he'll be there loonger than just thee night.

Here's contact info:
Hillsborough Corrections Dept
(603) 627-5614

Valley St. Jail has the worst reputation in NH.  Mike'll need your calls to the jail to help keep him safe.  The website detailing all the abuses there seems to have been taken down.  Here's my article about it:

http://newhampshirefreepress.com/?q=node/242

Kudos to Mike and the fuzz for remaining calm and reasonable. Hopefully he can get out sooner than later and get back to his business of corrupting the children of the world, one unlicensed outdoor gathering at a time.

oh man

Damn, that poor guy gets pulled over all the time.  :(

Mike's being held at the Valley Street Jail. The bail is $2040, and if it's not posted, he'll be held there until Monday morning when he'll be taken to Milford District Court for arraignment.

The phone number for the Valley Street Jail is: (603) 627-5620
The address for Milford District Court is: 180 Elm Street, Milford, NH 03055

well ... I guess they will drag him to court in Milford on Monday.

I just heard the news.

Mike, contact me about a contingency plan for running mail-to-jail.com. 

I was just thinking about that, too.  For now, if people email me their letters (or post them here), I'd be happy to mail them.

Mailing address.  Not sure if it needs a prisoner number on there, though.


Michael Barskey
Hillsborough County Corrections
445 Willow Street
Manchester, NH 03103

Oh I found this
http://www.hillsboroughcountydoc.org/operations/operations.htm

QuoteMAIL - all incoming mail is screened and censored (legal mail excluded).  After processing, all mail is routed to the inmates respective housing unit.  Unauthorized mail is returned to the sender with a letter of explanation.  All inmate correspondence must indicated their criminal control number.  Money orders and cashiers checks only will be accepted for deposit in to inmate accounts.  Books must be shipped directly from the publisher or book store.

Gordi is going to be taking care of Mail-to-Jail for Mike, he set that up beforehand. He did ask me to remind everyone to use the service once he's arrested and is in jail. He thought it was ironic that he set the service up, and now will be a recipient! And yes, he'll very much appreciate eveyone's calls and letters.

I called them and they said you don't have to put the prisoner number on mail, so this address should work.

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 01, 2009, 09:45 AM NHFT
Michael Barskey
Hillsborough County Corrections
445 Willow Street
Manchester, NH 03103

I called the jail. I haven't done this before and so I probably wasn't as effective in asking questions as I could have been. I got only vague answers. Perhaps someone has some tips on what kind of questions are the most effective in getting info.

I did ask the booking officer about Mike being "forced" to give his fingerprints. The guy was adamant that they "don't force people to do anything." 

So here's the link to Mike's mail to jail site:

http://www.mail-to-jail.com/

'we just strike them over the head until they stop resisting'

Thanks Kat and libertine.

Can I suggest a mail-to-jail.com link in the forum's banner?

Libertine:  Can I ask you to send him today's anarchyinyourhead?

Has it been confirmed that Mike is non-cooperating? Was the failure to show up to the court hearing for Freedom Fest or a driving offense?

Quote from: bile on February 01, 2009, 10:56 AM NHFT
Has it been confirmed that Mike is non-cooperating? Was the failure to show up to the court hearing for Freedom Fest or a driving offense?

Freedom Fest court date is yet to happen.

This was on a bench warrant from his non-appearance on another offense

Thanks. Just confirming. Throwing together a JailedActivist.info page and wanted to make sure things are correct.

Hi all.

I'm Mike's friend and will be managing Mail-to-Jail for now. Thank you Libertine and Kat for posting the info. I will send all letters I receive on Monday after his arraignment when we find out where he's going to be held. I know he will appreciate your letters very much.

And, as Kellie said, it would be great if someone can post some tips on what kind of questions are the most effective in getting info when calling jail.

Arrest is for not showing up to court over ticket for speeding and an open container in the car.  Here's the thread about it:

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16676.0

He got arrested coming home from a party at my place :(

We were having a great night too-- lewd jokes, good beer, and great people.

Quote from: AnarchoJesse on February 01, 2009, 11:33 AM NHFT
lewd jokes, good beer, and great people.

those are illegal, and the law is the law.   :BangHead:

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 01, 2009, 10:12 AM NHFT
So here's the link to Mike's mail to jail site:

http://www.mail-to-jail.com/

Hey everyone - Mail-to-Jail is great but don't forget to use the contribute link, as otherwise the stamp money comes from Mike!  I put in $25.

http://www.mail-to-jail.com/

The contribute link is on the bottom left.

:clap: Ian  :)

It was about 1:35 AM here in Michigan when we called Amherst PD.  We are still in Michigan taking care of Aubern's mother's estate.  Officer "Berry" (not the arresting officer) finally came to the phone after the dispatcher or secretary or someone, answerd the phone.  We asked him some very important questions about follwing orders...  questions, I believe Jim Johnson would be proud of.  He would not let me speak, was rude, kept telling me that "he's just following orders" and finally hung up on me.  He kept saying that if we wanted things to change we should use their system (oh, that works well...  a-holes) and I told him that he was more in a position to make more change as he can disobey hurtful, freedom taking orders.
I will be calling Mike's Cagers more often throughout the day, as I'm sure Aubern will as well.  Poor Mike.  We are so very sad for him, but we realize this is an opportunity to repair the damage they do by exposing the faults of their corruption.  As sad as it is we have to look at the best in every situation and see what we can as opportunity.  Mike is one of us, he is me, and I am him.  If he suffers, I suffer, we all suffer.  I'll stop ranting now.

Sent Mike a letter via his Mail to Jail site (http://www.mail-to-jail.com/)

Referenced some quotes from Monty Python and The Big Lebowski Lebarskey.

:clap:  Way to go, Lumpy!  :)

Quote from: Lumpy on February 01, 2009, 12:15 PM NHFT
It was about 1:35 AM here in Michigan when we called Amherst PD.  We are still in Michigan taking care of Aubern's mother's estate.  Officer "Berry" (not the arresting officer) finally came to the phone after the dispatcher or secretary or someone, answerd the phone.  We asked him some very important questions about follwing orders...  questions, I believe Jim Johnson would be proud of.  He would not let me speak, was rude, kept telling me that "he's just following orders" and finally hung up on me.  He kept saying that if we wanted things to change we should use their system (oh, that works well...  a-holes) and I told him that he was more in a position to make more change as he can disobey hurtful, freedom taking orders.
I will be calling Mike's Cagers more often throughout the day, as I'm sure Aubern will as well.  Poor Mike.  We are so very sad for him, but we realize this is an opportunity to repair the damage they do by exposing the faults of their corruption.  As sad as it is we have to look at the best in every situation and see what we can as opportunity.  Mike is one of us, he is me, and I am him.  If he suffers, I suffer, we all suffer.  I'll stop ranting now.

Quote from: Tom Sawyer on February 01, 2009, 12:21 PM NHFT
Sent Mike a letter via his Mail to Jail site (http://www.mail-to-jail.com/)

Referenced some quotes from Monty Python and The Big Lebowski Lebarskey.

Yeah, Tom! :clap:

Called and requested they release their political prisoner Michael Barskey.  The phone answering CO was quite confused by this request.  Perhaps I'll record the call next time - that will probably really throw him off.

Any idea as to when the arraignment is on Monday morning?  I'd like to carpool with some other Keeniacs if you guys are going.

Here's what I was thinking about for tomorrow:

Show up at 8:15 in Milford District Court to protest and attend Mike's arraignment.
About 11ish, go to Valley St. Jail and protest for an hour, assuming he's not released and is returned to VSJ.

Comments?

Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on February 01, 2009, 12:27 PM NHFT
Any idea as to when the arraignment is on Monday morning? 

I don't think we can find out before tomorrow when Milford District Court opens, so was thinking about just showing up early.

Gotta get back early, but sounds good!  We can give you a ride, Ian.


I called the
(603) 627-5614
number and asked if Mike Barskey was eating.  
He asked me how I heard he wasn't eating, was it from him? (in a dismissive manner).  What's my name?
I said he was going to answer the question, not me.
He couldn't answer. I said I'd call back.

I just got back from Mike's place taking care of some things mike and I prearranged.

By fascist arrangement between the police and a towing company, his car has been towed back to his parking lot, both license plates have been stolen, and they left the key inside the car and the door completely unlocked. Also, they are charging him for this "service". (I took care to lock things up)

Fuckers.

Quote from: Ryan McGuire on February 01, 2009, 12:40 PM NHFT
I just got back from Mike's place taking care of some things mike and I prearranged.

By fascist arrangement between the police and a towing company, his car has been towed back to his parking lot, both license plates have been stolen, and they left the key inside the car and the door completely unlocked. Also, they are charging him for this "service". (I took care to lock things up)

Fuckers.

Bah, who needed those CA plates anyway?  Maybe when he gets out he should get one of these:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=14569.msg280333#msg280333

Good job everyone responding by calling etc. It's powerful.

http://jailedactivist.info/activists/mike-barskey/

I'm still working on it but it's up. If anyone has bio info on Mike please pm it to me if you think he'd be OK with it.

Mike Barskey has been a super-activists since his move to New Hampshire in 2008.  He has been tireless in his support of other activists, attending almost every event since his move from California.  He has taken the lead in several projects - he organized the fall 2008 Keene Freedom Fest and created websites for not only Freedom Fest but also nhbrassballs.com, pimpmyactivism.info and Mail-to-Jail.com, a system to easily get letters to jailed activists.  His personal website is http://mike.barskey.net/.  Plus, he's just plain funny and a nice guy!

(I'm sure lots more could be said.)

Quote from: bile on February 01, 2009, 01:05 PM NHFT
http://jailedactivist.info/activists/mike-barskey/

BTW, WTG bile! :clap:  :D

he also made nhbrassballs.com

Jail guards love football.
Jail guards hate to answer the phone.
Super bowl today 6pm Eastern.

Mike's a really good guy, I have enjoyed the many conversations I have had with him.

Quote from: Coconut on February 01, 2009, 01:36 PM NHFT
he also made nhbrassballs.com

OK, added that and http://www.pimpmyactivism.info. :)

Lauren, you are deliciously devious  ;D

Just called the jail. They did not want to release any information about Mike, besides the fact that he is in the jail. I was transferred to the booking department (or whatever it's called) and found out what we already know about the bail ($2,000) and that he refused to have his fingerprints taken. Asked what's their next step and was told that a judge will decide on Monday or Tuesday, whenever is the court date. They didn't not want to give me specific information about the court date, time and location. Asked why, got "because of security reasons" answer.

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 01, 2009, 12:29 PM NHFT

Quote from: FreeKeene.com's Ian on February 01, 2009, 12:27 PM NHFT
Any idea as to when the arraignment is on Monday morning? 

I don't think we can find out before tomorrow when Milford District Court opens, so was thinking about just showing up early.

I was supposed to be there by 8:30 am, and arrived at 7:55. They were already open.

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 01, 2009, 01:42 PM NHFT
Lauren, you are deliciously devious  ;D

2nded!  >:D

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 01, 2009, 01:17 PM NHFT
Mike Barskey has been a super-activists since his move to New Hampshire in 2008.  He has been tireless in his support of other activists, attending almost every event since his move from California.  He has taken the lead in several projects - he organized the fall 2008 Keene Freedom Fest and created websites for not only Freedom Fest but also nhbrassballs.com, pimpmyactivism.info and Mail-to-Jail.com, a system to easily get letters to jailed activists.  His personal website is http://mike.barskey.net/.  Plus, he's just plain funny and a nice guy!

(I'm sure lots more could be said.)

Well said, Kat, there's not much more I could possibly add to this except that he's an amazingly caring person, is kind, consistent in his principles and values, is open to self-evaluation, and loyal to the people he cares about. That's everyone who's posted here, and a lot who haven't. It's a real privilege to count him as a friend.

Quote from: dalebert on February 01, 2009, 03:08 PM NHFT

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 01, 2009, 01:42 PM NHFT
Lauren, you are deliciously devious  ;D

2nded!  >:D

3rded!!!  ... and Barskey is the cats balls as well.

coin flip is something a lot of football fans stop what they're doing and tune in to.  Beating up prisoners is one of those things I bet.  See a ref holding a coin?  Time to make another call . . .nice idea Lauren!

It's set then.  The telephone onslaught is going to start at 6 I see.   :icon_pirat:

mike is da shit. sorry i havent seen him in like 2-3 months : /

Are you guys gonna call when it's 4th and 4 with one minute left and the world championship on the line?

Called the jail again, no word on if he has eaten. 
The valley st. employees made a big deal of not eating and not taking the "TB" test  and not answering medical, employment and gang affiliation questions when I was there.  They were persistent in getting compliance.  They know these things, they just don't want to say.

Both my wife and I wish Mike, his family and hist friends the best.

Activism like his, Kat's, Ian's and Lauren's are making us miss New Hampshire all the more.

See you guys this spring...

Quote from: Tom Sawyer on February 01, 2009, 12:21 PM NHFT
Referenced some quotes from Monty Python and The Big Lebowski Lebarskey.

Oh, Tom, The Big Lebarskey . . . you're hilarious! He'll love that.

Sorry if I overlooked them somewhere, but I never saw the actual Porc411 messages posted.  Is it Mike's intention to not post bail?  And is it also his intention to do a hunger strike?

The Porc 411 calls are posted on http://jailedactivist.info/activists/mike-barskey/.  He said he wouldn't post bail.  Of course he could always change his mind.  I can't see Barskey fasting...I think Lauren's just tweaking the Valley Street screws.

Quote from: kellie on February 01, 2009, 10:10 AM NHFT
I called the jail. I haven't done this before and so I probably wasn't as effective in asking questions as I could have been. I got only vague answers. Perhaps someone has some tips on what kind of questions are the most effective in getting info.

everyone will get different answers .... each call is helpful :)

we can ask if the big lebarsky is getting his usual sunday evening roasted duck under  glass meal ..... he is after all innocent until proven guilty of being an enemy of  the state right?

So, since there was no comment....

Milford District Court "Free Mike" Demonstration 8:15 am 2-2-09
Valley St. Jail "Free Mike" Demonstration 11ish 2-2-09

...supposed to be warmish tomorrow.

Called the jail again. I was hoping to get a different person/answer this time, but unfortunately I hanged up the phone left without any information once again. What the heck! Anybody else has been experiencing the same?

I would like to remind you all to please send your letters to Mike via http://www.mail-to-jail.com (http://www.mail-to-jail.com). I'm certain he will appreciate every single letter he receives.

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on February 01, 2009, 12:31 PM NHFT
Gotta get back early, but sounds good!  We can give you a ride, Ian.

Can I ride with also?

Never mind that. It appears we have too many people for one carload anyway so I'll be driving as well. I'm taking Jesse and Richard with room for one more, possibly Cooper. If Jim and Lauren have space, there may be one or more others that want to go from Keene.

Oh man, I wish I can teleport myself there tomorrow!

Is anybody going to video record?

Anyone other Keeniacs want a ride?  If so, we can bring the high-capacity vehicle.   But we have to return by 3.

Quote from: iSkye on February 01, 2009, 10:22 PM NHFT
Oh man, I wish I can teleport myself there tomorrow!

Is anybody going to video record?

At least three people will... and possibly twenty.    ;)

Groovy!  ;)

I'm also bringing postcards + stamps so he can get mail tomorrow. :)

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on February 01, 2009, 10:32 PM NHFT
Anyone other Keeniacs want a ride?  If so, we can bring the high-capacity vehicle.   But we have to return by 3.

Would we all be able to fit? I was going to bring Jesse & Richard and possibly Cooper though I haven't heard if he's going yet.

In case anyone missed the Porc411s...

Mike's court date was set to March 12th and since he refuses the pay the bail or complete the processing he'll likely stay in jail till the day in court.

Also Jesse and Charlie were arrested for disorderly conduct.

Is he going to stay in the same jail?

Not sure.

Looks like Jesse is being arraigned now at the same court.

The number of people who defend this system never ceases to amaze me.  I'm sorry these tyrants are using force on so many people who just want to be free and who endanger no one.   :(

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 10:15 AM NHFT
Mike's court date was set to March 12th and since he refuses the pay the bail or complete the processing he'll likely stay in jail till the day in court.

But he'll miss the forum  :(  :'( 

over a month away from work... geesh, is it worth it?  I can't believe that they couldn't give him a sooner date, they can squeeze these things into their schedule, I'm sure.

Quote from: meaticus on February 02, 2009, 10:50 AM NHFT

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 10:15 AM NHFT
Mike's court date was set to March 12th and since he refuses the pay the bail or complete the processing he'll likely stay in jail till the day in court.

But he'll miss the forum  :(  :'( 

Sounds like a great time to organize a 200 person "Free Mike" rally outside their jail or courthouse.

Quote from: Coconut on February 02, 2009, 11:30 AM NHFT

Quote from: meaticus on February 02, 2009, 10:50 AM NHFT

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 10:15 AM NHFT
Mike's court date was set to March 12th and since he refuses the pay the bail or complete the processing he'll likely stay in jail till the day in court.

But he'll miss the forum  :(   :'(

Sounds like a great time to organize a 200 person "Free Mike" rally outside their jail or courthouse.

Hmmm.... I'm envisioning a convoy of activists on the road to Manchester. Maybe some tents and a portable sound system on a flatbed truck. Last day of the forum, an all nighter outside the jail!! We could all get arrested and hang out with Mike!!!
would we need a permit for something like that? ;)

Jesse and Charlie have been let out. February 25th is their court date.

Just got home.  I feel so sick.  They want to take someone like Mike, who wouldn't hurt a fly, who goes out of his way to help so many people -- and stick him in a little cell for a year.  This is because he was supposedly carrying a gun w/o government papers.  :(

Yes, they're sending him back to the same jail.

Milford police roughed up Charlie.  We heard him scream in pain, but I don't know exactly what they did to him.  I'm sure there'll be more details tonight since he's been released.

Kat, do you have any more specific information about Mike?

I just called the jail. This time I got some information. I was told that Mike is refusing to comply with their process (paperwork, photo, fingerprints) and will be held in jail until he complies. When I asked if he was eating and if he was cold, I was just told "he's fine". Hmmm... Also, he can't receive any books. Letters are fine.

QuoteI feel so sick.  They want to take someone like Mike, who wouldn't hurt a fly, who goes out of his way to help so many people -- and stick him in a little cell for a year.  This is because he was supposedly carrying a gun w/o government papers.

That is sick. Very sick.

Hopefully those officers will rot. When the difference between returning to your home or being shoved in a rape cage is a god-damned piece of paper, you've got some immoral and sadistic SOBs in your presence!

So the jail saying they don't force anyone to do anything... translates to 'well we can torture you through isolation and denial of basic human decency until you voluntarily comply.'


The other thing I am constantly reminded of is that at every turn the thugs do the wrong thing... I mean even for their own purposes, they can't help but screwing it up and escalate situations.

Mike asked if a non-lawyer could represent him.  The judge said yes, as long as the person is of good character.  He asked what good character meant and she said at the least, the person shouldn't have been convicted of anything.  He's got 6 charges against him - speeding, open container, gun with no concealed carry license, not showing up for court ( can't remember the other two I guess ).  3 were like tickets, 3 were criminal charges.  Judge said he couldn't be bailed out w/o completing booking - fingerprinting and I don't know what other thing he wouldn't do.  Mike asked if he'd be released after the trial w/o doing those things - or was he just in jail for life because he didn't ever intend to do them.  She said they'd cross that bridge when they came to it.  Mike asked for bail to be lowered and judge considered it and then said no, so it's still $2000.  Mike could possibly get a year in jail + fines for the firearm charge.

I would guess Mike needs money put in his commissary account in order to make phone calls, write letters - but maybe he can't do those things unless he books in completely.  So if someone calls the jail, ask if he'll be able to make calls or write letters if he's not fingerprinted, and if he can, how do we send money for his commissary.

Some impressions:  the judge doesn't like guns but she did like Barskey.  She didn't get vindictive about Jesse and the disruption over the hat.

Unsurprisingly, the entire ordeal with me and Charlie involved our hats. Yes, people, a singular inoffensive article of clothing.

It's funny too-- when I was being dragged off by the police, the cop had the nerve to say "You're only hurting yourself here". I told him I hadn't realized this was all self-inflicted.

The Milford cop who arrested Jesse went into the courtroom with his hat on, BTW.

Mike also asked if he there was an earlier courtdate available and the judge said there wasn't.  I wonder if Teri and Mike could arrange with the court to trade courtdates.

I've been carrying a small, cheap HD video camera with me at all times now. I won't so much as get out to buy gas without it in my pocket.

It's thinks like this that make me cling to that thing like it's my life line. I don't think I'd part with it and it's getting clearer and clearer that it's dangerous to do so.

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 12:19 PM NHFT
Jesse and Charlie have been let out. February 25th is their court date.

Oh, I guess this belies the notion that there wasn't an earlier courtdate available for Mike  ::)

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 02, 2009, 02:59 PM NHFT

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 12:19 PM NHFT
Jesse and Charlie have been let out. February 25th is their court date.

Oh, I guess this belies the notion that there wasn't an earlier courtdate available for Mike  ::)

I was just thinking on this.... but then, the State might want some time to put together a case so they can ramrod Mike as hard as they can.

Probably won't even be polite enough to bring lube.

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 02, 2009, 02:54 PM NHFT
The Milford cop who arrested Jesse went into the courtroom with his hat on, BTW.

The rules don't apply to the fuzz. Hats and guns are OK, as long as it's a cop carrying them. Some men are created more equal than others.

When did the gun charge happen? This is news to me.

What is the nature of the gun charge? Are they claiming that the firearm in his car was loaded?

It was all from the same traffic stop for speeding where Teri had an open container.  They say Mike had a loaded gun with no concealed carry papers.

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 02, 2009, 02:51 PM NHFT
 So if someone calls the jail, ask if he'll be able to make calls or write letters if he's not fingerprinted, and if he can, how do we send money for his commissary.

I just did. He can make phone calls and write letters without complete booking. The money can be put for his commissary by appearing at the jail in person or by calling 888-288-9879 or visiting http://pcsdailydial.com/ (http://pcsdailydial.com/)

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 02, 2009, 03:11 PM NHFT
It was all from the same traffic stop for speeding where Teri had an open container.  They say Mike had a loaded gun with no concealed carry papers.

Loaded gun? They wouldn't lie, would they? :)

BTW, he pled not guilty to all 6 charges.

Will Mike lose his job?

His boss is a good man, but I'm not sure what will happen.

(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1978/21/33/624641163/n624641163_2031484_7306.jpg)
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1978/21/33/624641163/n624641163_2031483_7097.jpg)

free to use, so use em or make your own

(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1978/21/33/624641163/n624641163_2031711_1778.jpg)

 ;D He'll love it!!

those are really cool, anton!

I remembered  the other 2 charges against mike - they say he didn't register his car and didn't get a NH driver's license.

gracias. . .now I'm just bored
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Quote from: AntonLee on February 02, 2009, 05:58 PM NHFT
gracias. . .now I'm just bored
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1978/21/33/624641163/n624641163_2032007_8301.jpg)

Ha!

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 02, 2009, 02:58 PM NHFT
Mike also asked if he there was an earlier courtdate available and the judge said there wasn't.  I wonder if Teri and Mike could arrange with the court to trade courtdates.

Just catching up with the posts after being out all day. Kat, this is why I love you, you're a genius! I'll call the court tomorrow and suggest just that. Putting my own court date off is no problem. Mine is currently 2/19, and I'm absolutely sure the powers that be will truly appreciate the aloha spirit and generosity of switching with a friend, dontcha think? I'm in Chicago at the moment, and if I don't get any good answers over the phone, I'll go straight to the court when it opens on Monday, February 9th to make the request in person of the judge.

When I first heard TTW's porc411 this morning, I thought she said FEB 12, not March 12th. When I read the posts and realized it was over a month away, I was chilled to the bone. These people are completely fucked up, and they've got the power. For a moment, I contemplated abandoning my position at my own court date . . . and because I allowed myself the space to give in, my resolve solidified and I'm clear. There is no way I'm giving in to the tyranny. I keep thinking of the conversations Mike and I had about him being arrested, and his doubts about how he would handle himself. It sounds from the posts and Porcs that he's doing exactly what he hoped he would do; not cave. I know that the solidarity of support we all give each other helps to create strength while alone and faced with the system, and the brutes that are part of it. My admiration for those that have been standing up to the machine and the thugs is growing exponentially day by day.

Now Russell, you gotta keep my room for me, okay?  :D

ok

Quote from: laur on February 02, 2009, 06:25 PM NHFT

Quote from: AntonLee on February 02, 2009, 05:58 PM NHFT
gracias. . .now I'm just bored
(http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1978/21/33/624641163/n624641163_2032007_8301.jpg)

Ha!

trying to catch me ridin dirty

"There's full clip in my pistola, send a jack thug into a coma" plus other assorted lyrical magic.

I guess we will find out what Mike is thinking if he writes out or someone can visit him. We will soon find out what condition he is in at the jail and how we can communicate with him.
Sounds like the government might be revving up to keep him for a while. I am sure that prosecuter would like to get him on tons of charges and teach him to obey them.

Free Barskey

I'm wondering if Mike would mind if we bailed him out... I was going to put $100 into one of the activist funds, but if Mike wants to be bailed out, I'll put up $200 toward that.
I'm @ work right now, but I'll keep checking the posts here...

Quote from: meaticus on February 02, 2009, 07:20 PM NHFT
I'm wondering if Mike would mind if we bailed him out... I was going to put $100 into one of the activist funds, but if Mike wants to be bailed out, I'll put up $200 toward that.
I'm @ work right now, but I'll keep checking the posts here...

I think I speak for him accurately in that he would not want to be bailed out.

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 07:22 PM NHFT
I think I speak for him accurately in that he would not want to be bailed out.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I'll put the $$ in the fund. He can use it for candy bars :)

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 02, 2009, 07:17 PM NHFT

Sounds like the government might be revving up to keep him for a while. I am sure that prosecuter would like to get him on tons of charges and teach him to obey them.

I was thinking about this earlier today. I'm going to miss his presence at all the activism and social events. They couldn't have locked up a nicer guy.  :'(

Quote from: meaticus on February 02, 2009, 07:27 PM NHFT

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 07:22 PM NHFT
I think I speak for him accurately in that he would not want to be bailed out.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I'll put the $$ in the fund. He can use it for candy bars :)

Candy bars and a shitload of junk food . . . one of the things he said about a week before was that the good thing about being in jail was that he'd lose the weight he'd put on recently.  >:D

Quote from: Dan on February 01, 2009, 10:31 AM NHFT
Thanks Kat and libertine.

Can I suggest a mail-to-jail.com link in the forum's banner?

Libertine:  Can I ask you to send him today's anarchyinyourhead?

Sorry, Dan, just saw this. What day did you want sent?

VDO of some of today's events.
The press is denied entrance to the courthouse.
Lauren is ejected from the courthouse.
Spectator reaction to the arrests of Jesse and Charlie.
Report of the judges decisions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnO53g8Mos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnO53g8Mos)

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 07:22 PM NHFT
I think I speak for him accurately in that he would not want to be bailed out.

That sounds accurate. It would be pointless anyway because he's already said he refuses to do two parts of the processing and the judge said that would be a requirement for bail.

I took some VDO myself but it's mostly crap. A lot of it was me just having the camera on and ready when I saw police in case they decided to hassle us. That way it wouldn't look like I pulled it just for them.  >:D

Laur has put together some "Free Barskey" things at http://armorforactivists.com

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 10:58 PM NHFT
Laur has put together some "Free Barskey" things at http://armorforactivists.com

Thanks--it was a rush job. I'll make a better one soon.
I was more focused on just getting the story and a visual out there.

Quote from: iSkye on February 02, 2009, 03:15 PM NHFT
...He can make phone calls and write letters without complete booking. The money can be put for his commissary by appearing at the jail in person or by calling 888-288-9879 or visiting http://pcsdailydial.com/ (http://pcsdailydial.com/)

I just realized I gave you wrong/misleading information, which you've all probably figured out by now. The money can be put for his commissary by appearing at the jail in person (not sure of other ways). However, the phone number and the web site I provided is for collect phone calls that you will be paying for in advance. My sincere apologies.

Quote from: AnarchoJesse on February 02, 2009, 02:52 PM NHFT
Unsurprisingly, the entire ordeal with me and Charlie involved our hats. Yes, people, a singular inoffensive article of clothing.

It's funny too-- when I was being dragged off by the police, the cop had the nerve to say "You're only hurting yourself here". I told him I hadn't realized this was all self-inflicted.

"So cop, if I'm the masochist what does that make you?"

Just a few clarifications regarding the Mail to Jail.

• There are two drop down choices for Mike Barskey. No matter which one you pick, your letter will go through. No need to send the same letter twice.
• Please include your name, nickname, whatever you wish, so Mike knows who the letter is from (whoever wrote those two letters wondering about two drop down choices, please let me know your nick/name)
• As you probably know, Mike loves jokes. If you decide to write him a letter, perhaps you may want to include something related to the Family Guy (especially Brian), Pen & Teller: Bullshit!, Scrubs. I'm sure that will "bring light to him during his dark days in jail" :)
  
• You're welcome to leave any suggestions on the site or im me here.

Thanks to all of you who wrote him a letter.

Please note:
From Hillsborough County Corrections' web site:
"MAIL - all incoming mail is screened and censored (legal mail excluded). After processing, all mail is routed to the inmates respective housing unit. Unauthorized mail is returned to the sender with a letter of explanation."

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 09:00 PM NHFT

Quote from: Dan on February 01, 2009, 10:31 AM NHFT
Thanks Kat and libertine.

Can I suggest a mail-to-jail.com link in the forum's banner?

Libertine:  Can I ask you to send him today's anarchyinyourhead?

Sorry, Dan, just saw this. What day did you want sent?

Libertine is on the road.  It'd be much easier if one of us did it.  In fact, I can print it this morning and send it.

Quote from: laur on February 02, 2009, 11:14 PM NHFT

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 10:58 PM NHFT
Laur has put together some "Free Barskey" things at http://armorforactivists.com

Thanks--it was a rush job. I'll make a better one soon.
I was more focused on just getting the story and a visual out there.

Cool, Laur  :)

Lauren showed that with this government .... you have the right to remain silent ... if you don't mind waiting in a cell.
Barskey has shown that you are innocent until proven guilty ... you just have to wait in their cell til they are done with you
also ... you have the right to reasonable bail .... as long as you do everything they say and promise to do so into the future.

You should have a shirt that says something like-

"Free the Barskey!"
or
"Barskey is not an animal to be put in a cage!"

His last name just works for that kind of stuff. It might get people curious about the Barskey.

Postcard I'm sending, hope he gets a smile out of it... and the screws are perplexed by it.

(http://politicalgraffiti.com/nhfree/images/The_Big_Lebarskey.jpg)

Cool!

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on February 02, 2009, 09:58 PM NHFT
VDO of some of today's events.
The press is denied entrance to the courthouse.
Lauren is ejected from the courthouse.
Spectator reaction to the arrests of Jesse and Charlie.
Report of the judges decisions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnO53g8Mos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrnO53g8Mos)

Jesse might want to add these 2 videos to http://bureaucrashsocial.ning.com/video

that postcard image, with the barskey wearing his own clothes and getting plenty of fresh air, will be quite a contrast for the cops. Maybe if they take it away from him, he can comment about how he can't even be free in the past ....... even though he has not been deemed guilty by the system.

From Hilsborough County Department of Corrections web site:
"All inmate correspondence must indicated their criminal control number." (ha! it looks like a grammar mistake - indicated instead of indicate)

Mike's is 44706. So if you're writing him a letter on your own:

Mike Barskey
CCN: 44706 (not necessary to include "Hillsborough County Department of Corrections")
445 Willow Street
Manchester, NH 03103

When I called them, the screws said you didn't have to put the number on.

Hmm... before I posted the update, I called them and said that I read on their web site that the ccn is a must. She gave me the number and said that is not necessary to indicate the jail's name but that the number is important so they can easier distribute the mail.
Another contradiction - info on their web site "Books must be shipped directly from the publisher or book store" apparently is not correct either. Because when I called them and inquired about books, they said that the books are not allowed at all. Period. I was told that the inmates can read the books from the jail's library.
Go figure!

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 03, 2009, 04:46 AM NHFT

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 09:00 PM NHFT

Quote from: Dan on February 01, 2009, 10:31 AM NHFT
Thanks Kat and libertine.
Can I suggest a mail-to-jail.com link in the forum's banner?
Libertine:  Can I ask you to send him today's anarchyinyourhead?

Sorry, Dan, just saw this. What day did you want sent?

Libertine is on the road.  It'd be much easier if one of us did it.  In fact, I can print it this morning and send it.

Thanks Kat!

Quote from: Puke on February 03, 2009, 05:21 AM NHFT
You should have a shirt that says something like-

"Free the Barskey!"
or
"Barskey is not an animal to be put in a cage!"

His last name just works for that kind of stuff. It might get people curious about the Barskey.

I'll work on that either tonight/tomorrow or while I'm bored at work (whatever comes first).

It is typical though to get contradictory info out of the jails.  ::)  They've got no reason to be nice or helpful.

Quote from: iSkye on February 03, 2009, 08:56 AM NHFT
.... I was told that the inmates can read the books from the jail's library.
Go figure!

Can we donate books to the library?

I would guess 'yes'.  Someone nice had done that and Russell was reading Atlas Shrugged in jail.

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 03, 2009, 10:15 AM NHFT
Russell was reading Atlas Shrugged in jail.

Was that some sort of punishment his jailers inflicted on him for being uncooperative?

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 06:30 PM NHFT

Quote from: Kat Kanning on February 02, 2009, 02:58 PM NHFT
Mike also asked if he there was an earlier courtdate available and the judge said there wasn't.  I wonder if Teri and Mike could arrange with the court to trade courtdates.

I'll call the court tomorrow and suggest just that.

I called the court and was told that I can send a written request to the judge asking for our trial dates to be switched. It wouldn't be possible if our trials involved different police departments, because they're scheduled on different days. The woman I spoke with was very polite and informative, and although she didn't know what the chances were of the petition being granted, she gave me all the necessary information I needed to make the request. I'll do that today.

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on February 02, 2009, 09:58 PM NHFT
VDO of some of today's events.
The press is denied entrance to the courthouse.

Lauren,

Can I have the footage of the cameras being denied? Do you have the means to upload me a link to that?

so the court dates work for one side of a 'crime' but not the other.  Cops get scheduled to whatever day works best for them and their department. . . the accused get to sit in a cell until Officer Friendly is off his vacation.  How convenient for them.

To the late commers to this thread, the phone number to the jail and relevant info are on page 1 of this thread.

Mike is allowed out 3 letters a week, irregardless of booking, according to the lady on the phone, actually 3 stamps, and stuff to write with.  I asked them to take care of Mike as he is not a violent person.  

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 07:30 PM NHFT

Quote from: meaticus on February 02, 2009, 07:27 PM NHFT

Quote from: Libertine on February 02, 2009, 07:22 PM NHFT
I think I speak for him accurately in that he would not want to be bailed out.

Yeah, that's what I figured. I'll put the $$ in the fund. He can use it for candy bars :)

Candy bars and a shitload of junk food . . . one of the things he said about a week before was that the good thing about being in jail was that he'd lose the weight he'd put on recently.  >:D

I hope to have his sense of humor whenever I get arrested.  Go Mike.   :)

Quote from: David on February 03, 2009, 02:01 PM NHFT
I hope to have his sense of humor whenever I get arrested.  Go Mike.   :)

Did anyone else who heard the P411 calls notice how much calmer he was this time?

the practice helps  :)

I threw another "FREE Barskey" (http://www.cafepress.com/Armor4Activists/6441562) logo in the shop.

Enjoy.

Cool  :D

Sending out a postcard tonight.

BTW, anyone know why mail for Valley Street Jail is send to somewhere on Willow St?

Jail is at intersection of valley and willow.

Anyone know deadlines for mail-to-jail? If I want something to go in the mail today, when would I have to get it in? 2pm? 1pm? Yesterday?

Proposed jail protest:  Sunday 2/8, 1-2pm, Valley St. Jail

Any comments, suggestions?

Quote from: dalebert on February 04, 2009, 11:52 AM NHFT
Anyone know deadlines for mail-to-jail? If I want something to go in the mail today, when would I have to get it in? 2pm? 1pm? Yesterday?

She's 3 hours later than us.  If you mail it yourself, it will get to the jail tomorrow.  From CA, it will take several days.

Hey all.

Let's wait with MTJ for now. I just spoke with Mike. He's trying to pay his bail. I'll open a new thread.

By the way, I sent him all letters received so far through MTJ.

If Mike prefers to post bail, I will do it on his behalf so long as he promises to abide so that I'll get my $ back.

Quote from: dalebert on February 04, 2009, 12:28 PM NHFT
If Mike prefers to post bail, I will do it on his behalf so long as he promises to abide so that I'll get my $ back.

I believe he can pay you back as soon as he is free to walk around.

Ryan is on his way there now to bail Barskey out.

Quote from: Libertine on February 04, 2009, 12:54 PM NHFT
Ryan is on his way there now to bail Barskey out.

I'm kind of relieved. He's closer and I'm really busy today.  8)

Darn, that means he won't get my cool "Free Barskey" custom postcards I mailed today.

Nah, I'm kidding, I'm glad he will be free, at least for a little while.

Quote from: dalebert on February 04, 2009, 12:59 PM NHFT

Quote from: Libertine on February 04, 2009, 12:54 PM NHFT
Ryan is on his way there now to bail Barskey out.

I'm kind of relieved. He's closer and I'm really busy today.  8)

I love your honesty, Dale. The other thing that's so amazing is that there are so many of us to take care of each other that we all do what we can when it's convenient, and allow others to help when it works out for them. This is an incredible group of people.

Quote from: Ogre on February 04, 2009, 01:03 PM NHFT
Darn, that means he won't get my cool "Free Barskey" custom postcards I mailed today.

Nah, I'm kidding, I'm glad he will be free, at least for a little while.

He received them.

Quote from: iSkye on February 04, 2009, 01:34 PM NHFT

Quote from: Ogre on February 04, 2009, 01:03 PM NHFT
Darn, that means he won't get my cool "Free Barskey" custom postcards I mailed today.

Nah, I'm kidding, I'm glad he will be free, at least for a little while.

He received them.

Wait. I take that back. He got some postcards, but probably not yours.
Sorry I replied too fast, without thinking first.

Whew!  I knew the mail service was fast, but I'm sure I just saw the mail carrier go by a few hours ago and pick up my card... and I'm about 850 miles away!  :)

Quote from: Ogre on February 04, 2009, 01:58 PM NHFT
Whew!  I knew the mail service was fast, but I'm sure I just saw the mail carrier go by a few hours ago and pick up my card... and I'm about 850 miles away!  :)

:blush:  ;D

Ryan's at the jail with the appropriate amount of cash in hand, and he is waiting for them to process the paperwork in order to free Mike. He said that so far they've been cooperative and have not given him any trouble, only asking to make sure that he has the correct amount of money. They did not promise, however, that Mike would be released today. Ryan is hopeful that he will be, and has the time today to wait and take care of this situation.

Mike is out!

Yay!

But I still have three postcards left I made to send to him...  :icon_pirat:

Sheesh, I'm sure by now he has received them  :icon_biggrin:

I'd like to respond to Mike's statement "I'm not proud of it."

Fuck that man, you did what you had to.
I do not think what you did is at all a failure. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to spend time in a cage.

Good job, time for your brass balls perhaps?

Quote from: Puke on February 04, 2009, 05:55 PM NHFT
I'd like to respond to Mike's statement "I'm not proud of it."

Fuck that man, you did what you had to.
I do not think what you did is at all a failure. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to spend time in a cage.

Quote from: Puke on February 04, 2009, 05:55 PM NHFT
I'd like to respond to Mike's statement "I'm not proud of it."

Fuck that man, you did what you had to.
I do not think what you did is at all a failure. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to spend time in a cage.

Quote from: Puke on February 04, 2009, 05:55 PM NHFT
I'd like to respond to Mike's statement "I'm not proud of it."

Fuck that man, you did what you had to.
I do not think what you did is at all a failure. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to spend time in a cage.

Can't say it enough.

I second Puke's statement.

I've updated jailedactivist.info accordingly.

Agreed, Puke.
You can't blame people for wanting to have lives without sadistic jerks locking them in cages.

I am glad as well to hear the the Barskey boy is free! Free at last!  And you have NOTHING not to be proud of!!!!!

Quote from: Puke on February 04, 2009, 05:55 PM NHFT
I'd like to respond to Mike's statement "I'm not proud of it."

Fuck that man, you did what you had to.
I do not think what you did is at all a failure. I don't blame anyone for not wanting to spend time in a cage.

Good job, time for your brass balls perhaps?

None of us are proud that the government took your from your home and put you in a cage.  You did more than most... and showed the state for what it was when 2 people were arrested for hats at your arraignment.

Don't apologize because the government raped you of your freedom. It's not your fault you are a victim. The Only Person Who Responsible For Your Assault Is The Perpetrator.

You have been assaulted, no matter what you did, or did not do, in any case It Is Not Your Fault.

KUDOS Mike, we're glad you're free and safe

There are a couple of comments implying that some of us put Jesse and Charlie up to the hat thing. It's ridiculous, of course. I recall Jesse mentioning that he might do that in the car ride over, and while I don't think I argued with him openly, I'm pretty sure I got that stressed look on my face and shrugged and I certainly didn't encourage it.

My point is we all have to do what we're internally motivated to do. We shouldn't be pressuring people to go to jail. We each have to pick our battles. We have to weigh the choices, the potential gains vs. the potential cost, the risks, etc. I don't think anyone's got any business judging you for not wanting to stay in jail. Well, maybe Lauren, but... Anyway, I don't think anyone has any notion in their heads to judge you but if they did I'd go beat it out of them.  ;)

P.S. I hope no one has any notions because I can't fight worth a crap.

Happy that Mike is out!!!  :D

That's a good point ThinkLiberty; no one feels bad about handing over their wallet to a mugger with a  gun in their face.

You're a victim, that's all.

Quote from: dalebert on February 04, 2009, 06:47 PM NHFT
There are a couple of comments implying that some of us put Jesse and Charlie up to the hat thing.

Of course they implied that, those people think everyone needs to be told what they can and cannot do. In their mind anyone that does something other than what the government tells them, is obviously "put up to it." Why else would they do it?  :barf:

Welcome back Mike, did you sign "under duress" on the bail form?

 :) welcome home mike sometimes it is better to swallow your pride rather than swallowing that shitty meat sandwich you get for sunday dinner. You can accomplish alot more on the outside and its way to boring on the inside.

[while dunking the Dude's head in the toilet]
Blond Treehorn Thug: Where's the money, Lebowski? Where's the fucking money, shithead?
The Dude: It's uh... uh... it's down there somewhere, let me take another look.

Welcome back Lebarskey.  :)

My feeling is that Mike is a productive guy and he serves himself more being in the outside free(relative) world to make money and enjoy himself. Also, being in jail does cost the taxpayers money, so.............  I feel that is another good reason. Alternatively, him posting bail produces a situation whereby they now have playmoney, and may use what they want to apply to any of his "crimes".

All they want is your money and obedience.

Anyways, I am SO glad the Salsa man is out, cookies are on the way..(fuck your iron-bar-cage-diet)

 

Hey Barskey, I played "Time" at Harlow's tonight for your time served :icon_pirat:

Mike,

You're still not eligible for the Barsky award! Glad you're out, and I moved from Little Minnesota to Concord. So let's reschedule lunch, ok?

I like it whenever I see a porc411 from the old 760 area code. My home boy is up to something.

You might be disappointed Mike, but they only got a little money and a little cooperation from you. They didn't win and the system is not satisfied with your behavior ... that prosecuter will want more blood.

as a senior member of the  brass balls committee ... you might have only earned half a pair so far (Im like the '72 Dolphins who pop champagne every time a team finally goes down)

Only one brass ball? He'll be lop-sided!

soon he will be in front of the judge again and we can see what happens ... we can bring popcorn and tomatoes to throw

I've written a little song parody to be used on judicial occasions, if you're of a mind to.  If you need the melody, you can find it here:


CALL A KANGAROO COURT

[Spoken] There's an old politician, straining, campaigning, and he calls in a favor from a judge, and he contacts a few cops who are eager to bust some heads, and he says:

Toss 'em all in a cell, Mel,
Toss 'em all in a cell.
Cuff and Taser 'em well, Mel,
And toss 'em all in a cell.

[Chorus] All together, now: Call a kangaroo court, sport.
Call a kangaroo court.
No justice here to report, Mort,
Just call a kangaroo court.

Stack the charges like brick, Mick,
Stack the charges like brick.
We're bound to make something stick, Mick,
So stack the charges like brick.

[Chorus]

Set the bail at ten mil, Jill,
Set the bail at ten mil.
We know they can't foot the bill, Jill,
So set the bail at ten mil.

[Chorus]

Hand the trial to Burke, Dirk,
Hand the trial to Burke.
It's guaranteed he's berserk, Dirk,
Let's hand the trial to Burke.

[Chorus]

Ban the videocam, Sam,
Ban the videocam.
It shows me just as I am, Sam,
Must ban the videocam.

[Chorus]

Charge contempt if they fuss, Gus,
Charge contempt if they fuss.
Rules are for them but not us, Gus,
So charge contempt if they fuss

[Chorus]

That's brilliant, Sam.  Love it.  I love the original, and your version is hysterical.   ;D

+1

Quote from: Becky Thatcher on February 05, 2009, 09:18 AM NHFT
That's brilliant, Sam.  Love it.  I love the original, and your version is hysterical.   ;D

+1

What she said!!

(Hi Becky!!!)

Thank you, everyone, so much for your support, letters, and especially comments on this thread. I'm not "unproud" of being imprisoned by violent people for being a non-violent person, I'm "unproud" that I wasn't strong/brave enough to sit through their punishment and then scoff at their impotency. I started to, and indeed was very brave a number of times, but eventually I had had enough. Obviously, with so much time to do nothing but think, I had considered most of the positions mention in this thread so far. Would I be more valuable to liberty outside jail? Would paying a bail actually be giving the govt anything (I get the bail back if I appear in court)? Would staying in jail cost taxpayers more? If anything I did actually does cost the govt more, does it matter (since they print their own money or steal more whenever they want)? Etc.

When I did decide to give in, I was very disheartened. Coincidentally, that night I found a book of US Authors in the "jail library" (which was a cardboard box containing about 15 tattered books in a shower stall). Of the essays/poems/short stories in that book, I chose to read an excerpt from "Civil Disobedience" by Thoreau and "Self-reliance" by Emerson. Thoreau's piece reminded me that my fight - however strong or weak it was at any moment - was essential. And Emerson's piece comforted me by reminding me that we are what we are. If it is in my nature to be "this brave," than I am simply no braver (as well as no more cowardly). If that is all I have to offer, then that is what I will offer.

Thanks for the virtual cookies, the letters/postcards (most of which I have read, the rest I would love to read once they get returned to you by the jail - you can scan them or re-mail them to me at my home address), the photoshopped pix, the T-shirts, the protests, attending their arraignment for me, standing up for your own rights even at my arraignment (Jesse's and Charlie's arrest were absofuckinglutely rifuckingdiculous! I'll be there to support you guys!), being patient with me if I missed an appointment with you, etc. You people are an amazing bunch of friends and supporters to have. It's almost overwhelming, but it's a great place to be.

I was picturing exactly what you said. We all have our notions of what we will endure, but until you're in a cell with a LOT of nothing to do but think, who really knows?

Quote from: shyfrog on February 04, 2009, 11:31 PM NHFT
Hey Barskey, I played "Time" at Harlow's tonight for your time served :icon_pirat:

Thanks, man! How appropriate: not only do I love the song, but if you take "Time" out of context, I was doing it while you were playing it. :)

Hey, look everybody!  Mike's back!   

:party-smiley-020:

Welcome back!

:) Thanks!

Hey Mike!  Just wanted to say I was glad to hear you're a "free" man again!  I think it's great you had the guts to do what you did and it definately is another positive step, in the proper direction...in showing those with the monopoly on the use of force that people are not happy with the way things are being run and are willing to stand up to them. 

I"m want to start a thread entitled "Jail Time" for those who have been in the Slammer as I'm curious to see/hear what it's like exactly.  Anyway, Welcome Home and keep up the great work!

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2009, 06:49 AM NHFT
You might be disappointed Mike, but they only got a little money . . . as a senior member of the  brass balls committee ... you might have only earned half a pair so far

As the waiter shouted through the hall, you don't get bread with one brass ball . . .

Thanks, Peacemaker. Maybe you could organize a get-together (over pizza or something) where people who've been jailed can form a "panel" and compare notes, and everyone else can ask questions.

Russell: Ahhh, so that's the committee that's still out. :)

Quote from: Mike Barskey on February 05, 2009, 11:22 AM NHFT
I'm not "unproud" of being imprisoned by violent people for being a non-violent person, I'm "unproud" that I wasn't strong/brave enough to sit through their punishment and then scoff at their impotency.

Screw that; I think you made the right decision.  Don't be a martyr; be the Barskey!   :D

Quote from: Friday on February 05, 2009, 05:40 PM NHFT
Screw that; I think you made the right decision.  Don't be a martyr; be the Barskey!   :D

"The Barskey." Cute.

I am leaning strongly, now, in the direction of I am what I am. I am only so brave. If I want to be braver, I'll practice to be. Also, I'm becoming less and less convinced that staying imprisoned it the way I want to react.

If I had a convertible (and if it were a bit warmer), I'd pick you up, Mike, and drive ya around some...

:D

Glad to log on tonight and see that Mike is out. Granted it would be better if he was never in, but that's for another thread.

Sometimes you loose a battle, but you win the war.

I know how much it sucks to be sitting in a jail cell, and I can't blame anyone for leaving when they have had enough when bail is an option. You are a person we can all be proud to call friend.

Without going to far off topic here, would it be worth your while to apply for a NH LTC hoping it would help you out? Luckily in NH the gun charge, first offense isn't that big a deal usually... and I say that because what is run of the mill for most people when it comes to court proceedings turns into worst case scenario when a Free State supporter goes near a court. IN Massachusetts they are real Ball busters on gun charges and pile 5 charges on for having a gun without proper papers.

So anyway welcome back and good luck

Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on February 05, 2009, 08:39 AM NHFT
I've written a little song parody to be used on judicial occasions, if you're of a mind to. 

Huzzah!   :clap:

Thanks, Neggy.

Regarding obtaining a Conceal Carry permit: I've thought about it. First, I realized that the government could issue a maximum 1 year jail sentence *and* a $1K fine (or was it $2K?) over a $10.00 shall-issue permit ("shall-issue" means they will issue it to anyone eligible, period). Is that sick, or what?

I did do what you're suggesting, but not with the gun charges. Today I did register my car with the state and got a NH driver license (total = ~$200. Yuck). I plan to make a point during their trial that, regarding the charges of driving without license or registration, I am not guilty of harming or threatening anyone, that they're victimless crimes (i.e., not actual crimes). But I paid the govt and got their paperwork with the hope that it would appease the judge and make her more lenient when handing out punishments.

I don't want to get a CC permit yet, though, still on principle (I don't need permission to have a gun). Their gun charges against me are ridiculous and I want to fight them for what they are; I'm not in a mindset to comply to kiss their ass on that issue. I think. :)

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2009, 08:18 AM NHFT
soon he will be in front of the judge again and we can see what happens ... we can bring popcorn and tomatoes to throw

Or a Shoe!

(did you see where they made a Statue out of the shoe that was thrown at George Bush?  They put it up in public (in Iran or Iraq) and then they suddenly took it down in short order.  Must have been more of our tax dollars at work...paying off the government there to take it down because it was "disrespectful" towards G.B.).

Is it me, or would it be hilarious for a crowd to gather at a hearing and have one shoe per minute be thrown past a judge (not AT, because that would be assault on the king)?

you might not get all your money back
if they didn't need money ... then they wouldn't bill you, fine you, or tax you
people are who they are ... if they choose to remain the same ... i prefer to think our gang is growing an getting bettah all the time

The Barskey lives!

Is the celebration on raw food day ... Saturday?

Quote from: Ogre on February 05, 2009, 08:45 PM NHFT
Is it me, or would it be hilarious for a crowd to gather at a hearing and have one shoe per minute be thrown past a judge (not AT, because that would be assault on the king)?

you do it and one of us can film it

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2009, 09:02 PM NHFT
Is the celebration on raw food day ... Saturday?

Yes, it is!! Saturday at 1:00pm . . . I'm making raw pizza and I know Kat has some really great dishes planned. I've also heard of a few other treats that are coming. And, Barskey said he'll be there.  :D

I'll say it again: I'll be there. A relaxing day (or 2) with the peeps on the Animal Farm is juuust what the doctor ordered. I greatly look forward to it.

maybe kat will make her new blueberry dessert

animal farm is more fun than the ministry  of love

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 05, 2009, 09:13 PM NHFT
animal farm is more fun than the ministry  of love

Just a tad. :)

QuoteI don't want to get a CC permit yet, though, still on principle (I don't need permission to have a gun).

For whatever my opinion is worth...

Guns scare people. This is one of those hills that you don't want to die on until critical mass is reached. We all stand behind you, but for whatever calculations you might be doing, there WILL be many, many other chances to challenge this both in the short and the long term. Guns matter to liberty lovers and Statists hate guns. There's no lack of clashing over this.

I understand that your weapon wasn't loaded, and that the charge against you is flat out false. On the aspect of defending yourself from false alegation, I support everything short of you running yourself into the ground. A year in jail isn't great, but lying to accept someting you didn't do... Yeah.. We get it.

Quote from: Kevin Dean on February 05, 2009, 10:33 PM NHFT
Guns scare people. This is one of those hills that you don't want to die on until critical mass is reached. We all stand behind you, but for whatever calculations you might be doing, there WILL be many, many other chances to challenge this both in the short and the long term. Guns matter to liberty lovers and Statists hate guns. There's no lack of clashing over this.

I understand that your weapon wasn't loaded, and that the charge against you is flat out false. On the aspect of defending yourself from false alegation, I support everything short of you running yourself into the ground.

Thanks for your thoughts. The part the struck me the strongest was "there WILL be many, many other chances to challenge this both in the short and the long term." That's true. But at what point do I stop saying "I'll have future chances to challenge this" and start saying "this is the time I challenge it?" Do I wait until a charge against me is even weaker, so I have less of a chance of being imprisoned for a year over it?

Perhaps the answer is "This is one of those hills that you don't want to die on until critical mass is reached." Do I not challenge bad laws until there are enough other people challenging them simultaneously? Enough other people to do what? Critical mass for what? Being reported in the mainstream media? Scaring the govt into stopping enforcing that particular bad law (that would have be to one significant critical mass!).

Quote from: Kevin Dean on February 05, 2009, 10:33 PM NHFT
A year in jail isn't great, but lying to accept someting you didn't do... Yeah.. We get it.

I don't understand what you mean by this.

I agree with you Barskey, but for me I would rather fight having government id than guns. It does make sense to stand on principles not public opinion.

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 06, 2009, 07:21 AM NHFT
...for me I would rather fight having government id than guns.

On one hand, I realize we each have our own priorities: for you it might govt ID and for me it might be gun rights. We can each choose our own path and many issues will be dealt with simultaneously.

On the other hand, I don't know what my priority is. :) I can't even decide which I think is more important between not having to show govt ID and not having to show govt gun permit (though I'm leaning toward the govt ID issue). Then there are all the other issues: right to ingest drugs, property rights (i.e., right to carry a bottle in my car), etc. We're slaves on so many levels, regarding so many issues, it's tough to decide which battle to fight.

And, of course, this particular battle came to me. I mean, I chose to not register or license when I drove so I chose that fight, but I was carrying a gun perfectly legally and the govt attacked me for it.

There's a lot to think about. Thanks for your opinions, everyone. Please keep 'em coming, and I hope to talk to y'all about it in person when I see you.

Quote from: Mike Barskey on February 06, 2009, 08:43 AM NHFT

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 06, 2009, 07:21 AM NHFT
...for me I would rather fight having government id than guns.

On one hand, I realize we each have our own priorities: for you it might govt ID and for me it might be gun rights. We can each choose our own path and many issues will be dealt with simultaneously.

On the other hand, I don't know what my priority is. :) I can't even decide which I think is more important between not having to show govt ID and not having to show govt gun permit (though I'm leaning toward the govt ID issue). Then there are all the other issues: right to ingest drugs, property rights (i.e., right to carry a bottle in my car), etc. We're slaves on so many levels, regarding so many issues, it's tough to decide which battle to fight.

And, of course, this particular battle came to me. I mean, I chose to not register or license when I drove so I chose that fight, but I was carrying a gun perfectly legally and the govt attacked me for it.

There's a lot to think about. Thanks for your opinions, everyone. Please keep 'em coming, and I hope to talk to y'all about it in person when I see you.

Man I hate being out of state because I can't show up...  but I can do what I can from here.  How about www.letterz-to-da-freakin'-"judge".com?  Seeing as YOU are not able to write or contact a judge (as we are reminded in Ian's "couch-enforcement" case and all others)...  I'm thinking that one of us or myself ought to take old judge Jerk Burke out for lunch as an investment in our future as well as his...  if that makes sense.
Yeah, we were bummed by them stealing your money, etc. but we also are not in your shoes and very well might do the same thing...  nah, I'm too much of an a$$ hole to let them win, even if in solitary...  I think... we'll find out if and when they get me :shithitsthefan:...  but moreover, I'm happy and Aubern is happy you are free.  Admittedly, we were in tears when the process of freedom loss was becoming more evident.  It was really good to hear you call into Free Talk Live too.  They (the evil ones) put so many threats of taking your lives from you and all of us, and bodily harm, etc..  Sure it goes without saying but damn if I'm going to ever shut up about squat...  as many of y'all know.  Mike, go with your heart.  Remember what it was that first made you make the decision to do and be what you are, the principles you stand for, etc.  With that, nobody can ever defeat you and you are more powerful than any so called judge, if by bench or in this forum.  You are a hero and you damn well better know it.  I keep on agreeing with Russell on nearly everything...  actually I don't think I have found anything I disagree with him on yet.  It is a lot to think about and it seems focusing on the govt id thing makes sense as wel all know that the other stuff will be dismissed because it's such bullshirt and an embarassed cop sits peeing his pants hoping that he doesn't get on our stage again. 
Mike, you are a hero but the only one you gotta be secure with is you brother.  We all back you up, or we damn well better.

Quote from: Mike Barskey on February 06, 2009, 08:43 AM NHFT
On the other hand, I don't know what my priority is. :) I can't even decide which I think is more important between not having to show govt ID and not having to show govt gun permit (though I'm leaning toward the govt ID issue).

You don't have to show a government gun license in NH, it just has to be on record so that they may look it up and detain you if you don't have it on you (or want to show it).  Once they confirm that you have a carry license, they can no longer detain you for that.

Thanks for the encouragement, Lumpy.

Quote from: Lumpy on February 06, 2009, 10:51 AM NHFT
Remember what it was that first made you make the decision to do and be what you are, the principles you stand for, etc.  With that, nobody can ever defeat you and you are more powerful than any so called judge...

This is important. I know it, but I lose sight of it sometimes when my fear blinds me. When govt aggression get strong or scary, I get lost in the chasm between choosing to live via my principles, and choosing to just live. At least, that's what it seems at the time. I'm fairly certain that the govt won't kill me or disappear me forever, but it feels like it when I'm scared, and then I find it difficult to choose to live via my principles.

But when all is said and done, I'll live and I'll and learn.

Quote from: Radical and Stuff on February 06, 2009, 10:58 AM NHFT
You don't have to show a government gun license in NH, it just has to be on record so that they may look it up and detain you if you don't have it on you (or want to show it).  Once they confirm that you have a carry license, they can no longer detain you for that.

Thanks for the clarity, but it doesn't affect principle at all, as far as I can see. Whether they look up their permit for me in their database or whether they demand that I have it on my person, it still means that they're demanding to give their permission for me to possess my gun. In fact, in either case, they're more than demanding - they're threatening, as usual.

As long as you opening carry the gun you are fine.  Maybe you can make a gun rack outside your car and put a gun on it?

I don't know the circumstances surrounding your gun charge (my apologies if you posted them and I missed it), but if your gun was openly carried, loaded or not, outside of a vehicle, I'd say fight the charge. If your gun was unloaded in a vehicle, concealed or not, I say fight the charge.

If it was loaded in a car, while I don't agree with it, their law backs them up there.

I wouldn't recommend you say anything further on here about your manner of carrying since what you post can be used against you.

Tackle and Facilitator came up with another verse to Sam's song:

Best take off your chapeau, Joe
Best take off your chapeau
Or to jail you will go, Joe
Best take off your chapeau

Crocker's here to preside, guys
Crocker's here to preside
She knows when to close her eyes, guys
Crocker's here to preside

Quote from: Mike Barskey on February 19, 2009, 08:11 AM NHFT
Tackle and Facilitator came up with another verse to Sam's song:

Best take off your chapeau, Joe
Best take off your chapeau
Or to jail you will go, Joe
Best take off your chapeau

Crocker's here to preside, guys
Crocker's here to preside
She knows when to close her eyes, guys
Crocker's here to preside

That covers Jesse--how about Charlie?:

It's the victim's own fault, Walt.
It's the victim's own fault.
We'll just yell out, "That's assault!" Walt
And call it the victim's own fault.

Quote from: bile on February 02, 2009, 12:19 PM NHFT
Jesse and Charlie have been let out. February 25th is their court date.

Anyone know what time?

Quote from: Mike Barskey on February 19, 2009, 08:11 AM NHFT
Tackle and Facilitator came up with another verse to Sam's song:

Best take off your chapeau, Joe
Best take off your chapeau
Or to jail you will go, Joe
Best take off your chapeau

Crocker's here to preside, guys
Crocker's here to preside
She knows when to close her eyes, guys
Crocker's here to preside

is it me or do those lyrics look like they'd fit perfectly if sung to the melody of
"Look What they've done to my song"  from the late 60's IIRC

Quote from: neggy on February 19, 2009, 05:33 PM NHFT
is it me or do those lyrics look like they'd fit perfectly if sung to the melody of
"Look What they've done to my song"  from the late 60's IIRC

It's to "Tie Me Kangaroo Down," actually.  It takes too much tweaking to fit them to "LWTDtMS,M."  (And no, it can't be sung to "The Ballad of Gilligan's Island" . . .)

Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on February 19, 2009, 10:46 AM NHFT

Quote from: Mike Barskey on February 19, 2009, 08:11 AM NHFT
Tackle and Facilitator came up with another verse to Sam's song:

Best take off your chapeau, Joe
Best take off your chapeau
Or to jail you will go, Joe
Best take off your chapeau

Crocker's here to preside, guys
Crocker's here to preside
She knows when to close her eyes, guys
Crocker's here to preside

That covers Jesse--how about Charlie?:

It's the victim's own fault, Walt.
It's the victim's own fault.
We'll just yell out, "That's assault!" Walt
And call it the victim's own fault.

I think you need to make the last line match the first.  Tried singing it as quoted, and nearly bit my tongue off.  ;->

Quote from: cxxguy on February 27, 2009, 10:04 PM NHFT

Quote from: Sam A. Robrin on February 19, 2009, 10:46 AM NHFT

That covers Jesse--how about Charlie?:

It's the victim's own fault, Walt.
It's the victim's own fault.
We'll just yell out, "That's assault!" Walt
And call it the victim's own fault.

I think you need to make the last line match the first.  Tried singing it as quoted, and nearly bit my tongue off.  ;->

Yes, you do have to "tuck" the "call it" part.
Could  be worse.  Last night I wrote one that rhymed "I am sure" with "New Hampshire."  That'll probably get my artistic license suspended . . .