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Title: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 13, 2009, 03:28 AM NHFT
2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival

What: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
When: June 25th - June 28th
Where: Roger's Campground in Lancaster, NH
Why: Party, classes, endless list of fun activities

Learn More: http://www.freestateproject.org/news/festival

official stuff: http://www.freestateproject.org/festival/schedule (starts on June 24)
unofficial stuph: http://forum.freestateproject.org/index.php?topic=17446.0  (starts on June 22)

I hope to see you there!
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Puke on June 13, 2009, 05:22 AM NHFT
What is this Pork Feast?
And who belong to the Freak State Project?

This is all new to me! ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 13, 2009, 05:37 AM NHFT
Well, the Freak Minds TV crew will be there.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on June 13, 2009, 06:24 AM NHFT
Come on the 25th and be welcomed by the 'real' Porcs who will have already been there for 4 days!
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Pat K on June 13, 2009, 06:34 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on June 13, 2009, 06:24 AM NHFT
Come on the 25th and be welcomed by the 'real' Porcs who will have already been there for 4 days!

Just have the Beer cold, for when we get there. ;D
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Puke on June 13, 2009, 09:11 AM NHFT
Some real Porcs have jobs.  :(
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 13, 2009, 09:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on June 13, 2009, 06:24 AM NHFT
Come on the 25th and be welcomed by the 'real' Porcs who will have already been there for 4 days!

Are you also going to be at Motorcycle Week the previous week and Buring Porc the week following Porcfest?
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: PassionatePantherrr on June 13, 2009, 04:08 PM NHFT
Henna Class at Porcfest, Thurs 6/25, 2-4pm

Hey... As posted in the Porcfest calendar:
"Thurs 2PM-4PM: Here, Henna, Henna! Learn how to do Henna body tattoos with Denise  (TV Room above office)."

Wear clothing that you don't mind getting messy (or bring gloves if you want to make sure you don't get anything on your hands) We will be drawing designs on ourselves, making up a batch of henna to show how that's done, and supplies / handout will be available. $10 for everything incl supplies, $5 if you just want to watch and get a handout. Please let me know if you have any allergies in advance (the basic mixture I use involves henna, lemon juice, and tea tree oil, but there are other variations involving tea, vinegar, etc). RSVP to herbalist@usa.com to help me get a sense of how much to bring in the way of supplies
Thanks!
-Denise
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Dave Ridley on June 16, 2009, 09:15 AM NHFT
A reminder...for those who are coming to PF, one day after it ends...the trial of ed and elaine brown begins.  It would be educational and constructive if some of you could stay an extra day or two and attend some part of the trial.   Imperfect as Ed may be, elaine didn't really do anything wrong and doesn't deserve this.  She shouldn't be forgotten.

Details on that are at:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1523
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Dave Ridley on June 16, 2009, 09:23 AM NHFT
also if you stay one day for the brown trial, you could always stay 2 days and go see cindy sheehan in keene
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: geoff on June 22, 2009, 02:43 PM NHFT
I'm coming up on Thursday and already have some activities in mind that I want to participate in, but there are some things I want to do that I haven't seen listed on the various activity schedules, so I wanted to know if anyone else was interested or could provide direction.

I wanted to do some shooting, however the Appleseed project is a 2 day event I would only participate in for one day, and that makes it more expensive than I want.  The newbie shoot is limited to .22's and shotguns.  I was hoping to be able to shoot some non-.22 rifles/handguns(not trying to talk down to anyone).  If anyone knows of a range or wants to find a range nearby Lancaster (I haven't looked yet myself) let me know.

I was thinking that probably Friday afternoon or Sat. morning I would try to encompass (1) fishing, (2) exploring the nearby towns, finding a nice place to get a meal (nice quaint not pricey), (3) looking at a piece of land I found (I don't think many would care to look at land with me though).

I had tentatively planned on doing the Friday afternoon road rally, and if no other range options open up doing the newbie shoot, but if anyone wants to go fishing or exploring let me know.  Pm me here or email geoffbaxter3@yahoo.com  I won't be heartbroken if any of this doesn't happen though. 

Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 22, 2009, 04:27 PM NHFT
Quote from: DadaOrwell on June 16, 2009, 09:15 AM NHFT
A reminder...for those who are coming to PF, one day after it ends...the trial of ed and elaine brown begins.  It would be educational and constructive if some of you could stay an extra day or two and attend some part of the trial.   Imperfect as Ed may be, elaine didn't really do anything wrong and doesn't deserve this.  She shouldn't be forgotten.

Details on that are at:
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1523


While at your trial today, I heard that IOBright has a trial in Keene at 1:30 p.m. on the Monday after Porcfest. A bunch of us will be there.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Puke on June 22, 2009, 04:36 PM NHFT
Quote from: geoff on June 22, 2009, 02:43 PM NHFT
I'm coming up on Thursday and already have some activities in mind that I want to participate in, but there are some things I want to do that I haven't seen listed on the various activity schedules, so I wanted to know if anyone else was interested or could provide direction.

I wanted to do some shooting, however the Appleseed project is a 2 day event I would only participate in for one day, and that makes it more expensive than I want.  The newbie shoot is limited to .22's and shotguns.  I was hoping to be able to shoot some non-.22 rifles/handguns(not trying to talk down to anyone).  If anyone knows of a range or wants to find a range nearby Lancaster (I haven't looked yet myself) let me know.

I was thinking that probably Friday afternoon or Sat. morning I would try to encompass (1) fishing, (2) exploring the nearby towns, finding a nice place to get a meal (nice quaint not pricey), (3) looking at a piece of land I found (I don't think many would care to look at land with me though).

I had tentatively planned on doing the Friday afternoon road rally, and if no other range options open up doing the newbie shoot, but if anyone wants to go fishing or exploring let me know.  Pm me here or email geoffbaxter3@yahoo.com  I won't be heartbroken if any of this doesn't happen though. 

There is a shooting event Saturday isn't there? That isn't the fruit planting event.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on June 22, 2009, 04:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on June 13, 2009, 09:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on June 13, 2009, 06:24 AM NHFT
Come on the 25th and be welcomed by the 'real' Porcs who will have already been there for 4 days!

Are you also going to be at Motorcycle Week the previous week and Buring Porc the week following Porcfest?

Yes.  I am the FSP liaison for both the 'Wild Bunch' and  Pyromaniacs.  
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Friday on June 22, 2009, 05:13 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on June 22, 2009, 04:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on June 13, 2009, 09:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on June 13, 2009, 06:24 AM NHFT
Come on the 25th and be welcomed by the 'real' Porcs who will have already been there for 4 days!

Are you also going to be at Motorcycle Week the previous week and Buring Porc the week following Porcfest?

Yes.  I am the FSP liaison for both the 'Wild Bunch' and  Pyromaniacs.  
Llloyd "Peckinpah" Danforth  :violent5:
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: geoff on June 22, 2009, 08:16 PM NHFT


There is a shooting event Saturday isn't there? That isn't the fruit planting event.
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yeah that's the newbie shoot that was only for .22's and shotguns. 
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: djbridgeland on June 22, 2009, 08:39 PM NHFT
Quote from: geoff on June 22, 2009, 02:43 PM NHFT
I'm coming up on Thursday and already have some activities in mind that I want to participate in, but there are some things I want to do that I haven't seen listed on the various activity schedules, so I wanted to know if anyone else was interested or could provide direction.

I wanted to do some shooting, however the Appleseed project is a 2 day event I would only participate in for one day, and that makes it more expensive than I want.  The newbie shoot is limited to .22's and shotguns.  I was hoping to be able to shoot some non-.22 rifles/handguns(not trying to talk down to anyone).  If anyone knows of a range or wants to find a range nearby Lancaster (I haven't looked yet myself) let me know.

I was thinking that probably Friday afternoon or Sat. morning I would try to encompass (1) fishing, (2) exploring the nearby towns, finding a nice place to get a meal (nice quaint not pricey), (3) looking at a piece of land I found (I don't think many would care to look at land with me though).

I had tentatively planned on doing the Friday afternoon road rally, and if no other range options open up doing the newbie shoot, but if anyone wants to go fishing or exploring let me know.  Pm me here or email geoffbaxter3@yahoo.com  I won't be heartbroken if any of this doesn't happen though. 



Perhaps someone could organize a special First Church of the gun service on Sunday after Porcfest for visitors? ;D  That is a church that the atheist can get behind.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Friday on June 22, 2009, 09:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: djbridgeland on June 22, 2009, 08:39 PM NHFT

Perhaps someone could organize a special First Church of the gun service on Sunday after Porcfest for visitors? ;D  That is a church that the atheist can get behind.
Some years, there has been a gathering of atheists scheduled to coincide with the Sunday morning get-togethers for the worshipful types.  Not sure if anyone has organized one this year.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 22, 2009, 09:48 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 22, 2009, 09:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: djbridgeland on June 22, 2009, 08:39 PM NHFT

Perhaps someone could organize a special First Church of the gun service on Sunday after Porcfest for visitors? ;D  That is a church that the atheist can get behind.
Some years, there has been a gathering of atheists scheduled to coincide with the Sunday morning get-togethers for the worshipful types.  Not sure if anyone has organized one this year.

I haven't seen it listed anywhere.  The Quaker gathering is from 9:30 - 10:00 a.m. at site #69.  The Seekers gathering from from 10 a.m. to later at site #36 (Alt Expo).  That should fit most people.  Someone should figure out where Lloyd's site is if people just want to sit around and make fun of Christians.

Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Pat K on June 22, 2009, 09:56 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 22, 2009, 09:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: djbridgeland on June 22, 2009, 08:39 PM NHFT

Perhaps someone could organize a special First Church of the gun service on Sunday after Porcfest for visitors? ;D  That is a church that the atheist can get behind.
Some years, there has been a gathering of atheists scheduled to coincide with the Sunday morning get-togethers for the worshipful types.  Not sure if anyone has organized one this year.

I never make it , I would feel like to much of a hypocrite since I am
usually praying to god for my hangover to stop.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Friday on June 22, 2009, 10:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on June 22, 2009, 09:48 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 22, 2009, 09:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: djbridgeland on June 22, 2009, 08:39 PM NHFT

Perhaps someone could organize a special First Church of the gun service on Sunday after Porcfest for visitors? ;D  That is a church that the atheist can get behind.
Some years, there has been a gathering of atheists scheduled to coincide with the Sunday morning get-togethers for the worshipful types.  Not sure if anyone has organized one this year.

I haven't seen it listed anywhere.  The Quaker gathering is from 9:30 - 10:00 a.m. at site #69.  The Seekers gathering from from 10 a.m. to later at site #36 (Alt Expo).  That should fit most people.  Someone should figure out where Lloyd's site is if people just want to sit around and make fun of Christians.


Not to highjack this thread too much, but I really disagree that Quakers plus Seekers "fits most people".  I don't mean to say that I think the FSP needs to provide a Sunday morning event for atheists; that characterization of the breadth of people's spiritual beliefs, or lack thereof, just bugs me.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 22, 2009, 10:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 22, 2009, 10:04 PM NHFT
Not to highjack this thread too much, but I really disagree that Quakers plus Seekers "fits most people".  I don't mean to say that I think the FSP needs to provide a Sunday morning event for atheists; that characterization of the breadth of people's spiritual beliefs, or lack thereof, just bugs me.

Looking at an earlier version of the schedule I saw that there was only a Jewish gathering on Saturday, likely at Rich G.'s request.

I contacted Mark (the assistant coordinator, this is his first time to organize PF, btw).  I suggested that he look into contacting people about Christian, Seeker and atheist services.  I didn't give him suggestions on whom to contact, though.  I also mentioned that I was going to lead a Quaker gathering which he could add to the schedule or not.  I then added it to the unofficial schedule and called into FTL about - DIY (do it yourself).  Eventually, it was also added to the online version of the official schedule.

After calling into FTL, I looked at the schedule again.  A Christian gathering was added.  Additionally, I looked at the Alt Expo schedule (they have been DIY since the beginning), and noticed a Seeker gathering.

Unless, I hear otherwise, I'm pretty confident that every group which requested to be included was included.  If you or someone else creates an atheist gathering and promotes, I'd love that.  If not, just show up at Lloyd's campsite.

BTW, if you have never been to a Seekers gathering, you might want to check it out.  I've found the ones I attended pretty interesting.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Kat Kanning on June 23, 2009, 02:16 AM NHFT
I thought the Seekers meetings were interesting.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on June 23, 2009, 05:47 AM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on June 22, 2009, 09:48 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 22, 2009, 09:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: djbridgeland on June 22, 2009, 08:39 PM NHFT

Perhaps someone could organize a special First Church of the gun service on Sunday after Porcfest for visitors? ;D  That is a church that the atheist can get behind.
Some years, there has been a gathering of atheists scheduled to coincide with the Sunday morning get-togethers for the worshipful types.  Not sure if anyone has organized one this year.

I haven't seen it listed anywhere.  The Quaker gathering is from 9:30 - 10:00 a.m. at site #69.  The Seekers gathering from from 10 a.m. to later at site #36 (Alt Expo).  That should fit most people.  Someone should figure out where Lloyd's site is if people just want to sit around and make fun of Christians.



Where would the challenge  be in doing that?  Besides by Sunday most of us will probably be laughing at some drunk thing you did.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Friday on June 23, 2009, 06:29 AM NHFT
Quote from: Radical and Stuff on June 22, 2009, 10:41 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 22, 2009, 10:04 PM NHFT
Not to highjack this thread too much, but I really disagree that Quakers plus Seekers "fits most people".  I don't mean to say that I think the FSP needs to provide a Sunday morning event for atheists; that characterization of the breadth of people's spiritual beliefs, or lack thereof, just bugs me.

Looking at an earlier version of the schedule I saw that there was only a Jewish gathering on Saturday, likely at Rich G.'s request.

I contacted Mark (the assistant coordinator, this is his first time to organize PF, btw).  I suggested that he look into contacting people about Christian, Seeker and atheist services.  I didn't give him suggestions on whom to contact, though.  I also mentioned that I was going to lead a Quaker gathering which he could add to the schedule or not.  I then added it to the unofficial schedule and called into FTL about - DIY (do it yourself).  Eventually, it was also added to the online version of the official schedule.

After calling into FTL, I looked at the schedule again.  A Christian gathering was added.  Additionally, I looked at the Alt Expo schedule (they have been DIY since the beginning), and noticed a Seeker gathering.

Unless, I hear otherwise, I'm pretty confident that every group which requested to be included was included.  If you or someone else creates an atheist gathering and promotes, I'd love that.  If not, just show up at Lloyd's campsite.

BTW, if you have never been to a Seekers gathering, you might want to check it out.  I've found the ones I attended pretty interesting.
To reiterate, my point was NOT a commentary on the schedule of PorcFest.  It was in response to your saying Quakers and Seekers "should cover most people".  I see you've clarified that what you meant was "should cover most people who expressed an interest to the PorcFest organizers in having an event organized around their religious belief of choice".  OK, sounds good!

I've been to a Seekers gathering.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Russell Kanning on June 23, 2009, 07:15 AM NHFT
if Caleb was there ... he could organize the anarchist christian meeting .... then sleep through it

(yes I am testing to see if caleb is reading this thread) :)
red headed step children have to be beaten regularly to keep them  in line
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 23, 2009, 08:09 AM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on June 23, 2009, 06:29 AM NHFT
To reiterate, my point was NOT a commentary on the schedule of PorcFest.  It was in response to your saying Quakers and Seekers "should cover most people".  I see you've clarified that what you meant was "should cover most people who expressed an interest to the PorcFest organizers in having an event organized around their religious belief of choice".  OK, sounds good!

Oh, sorry.  I missed that part :blush:
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Russell Kanning on June 23, 2009, 08:13 AM NHFT
are quakers traditionally hung over during their meetings? ;)
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Fluff and Stuff on June 23, 2009, 09:22 AM NHFT
Quote from: Russell Kanning on June 23, 2009, 08:13 AM NHFT
are quakers traditionally hung over during their meetings? ;)

Quakers tend not to be big drinkers.
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: Giggan on June 23, 2009, 10:52 AM NHFT
I'm pretty much an atheist (objective agnostic) but I'll be heading to the Quaker thing to check it out.

Also, should I know what 'seekers' are?
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival - Henna Body Art
Post by: PassionatePantherrr on June 23, 2009, 02:57 PM NHFT
In addition to the class I will be teaching from 2-4pm on Thursday, I will also be available to do bodyart at Porcfest... If you'd like to schedule a time for me to do some work for you, drop me an email by Wed night, or see me in Lancaster (we'll be camping in the RV section). Ttys!
Title: Re: 2009 Porcupine Freedom Festival
Post by: AntonLee on June 23, 2009, 05:25 PM NHFT
thankfully that porcupine logo is different  ;D ;D