My coworker, let's call her Jane, said she went to a new doctor in southern NH yesterday and was shocked by some of the questions the doctor asked her:
- Do you have a gun in your home?
- What religion are you?
- Do you have a smoke detector in your home?
I can see a certain health-related rationalization for all of these, but still, they seem creepy and invasive, particularly the first two. Jane is the quietest, most mild-mannered person you can imagine, and even she was so shocked she wound up arguing with the doctor about it and won't be going back. She did answer the questions, just out of habit of responding to authority figures, but then regretted having done so and argued about it after the fact.
Has anyone had similar experiences? Also, was any legislation passed requiring doctors to gather the gun info, or is anyone aware of the AMA passing a recommendation to their members to do so? Jane asked the doctor why she asked the gun question and the doctor said it's because she likes to promote gun safety. Then Jane asked her if the doctor teaches gun safety, to which the doctor replied yes! I suppose that could be legit, but still... Jane and I are in agreement that the whole thing was very suspicious.
Sandy, I would not provide that info to my doctor. In the practice I work at, very often we have people who say they are self-employed and provide no further info. I'm not sure why we even ask that - other than that is usually where their health insurance plan is based.....but still, do we really need to know where? I guess since it's orthopaedics, their occupation can help us with managing their injury to a degree.
I have often heard of pediatricians who ask more invasive questions. For people who are safe about guns, it's just annoying....but I guess for those idiots out there who are careless, the pediatrician is looking out for the health and safety of their patient, the child.
The Second Amendment Project has a good article on the subject here:
http://www.davidkopel.com/NRO/2001/Right-of-Refusal.htm
I would take their advice and file a complaint of boundary violation with the medical licensing board.
FYI, Jane has no children. So the doctor couldn't even use the "doing it for the children" excuse.
We also encountered these questions on our new doctor's forms. Our solution was to answer N/A to all of them.
I suppose you could alternately translate "N/A" as:
Not Applicable to the services I'm paying you for.
or
None of your damn business Asshat.
I have never had any problem with only answering the questions I wanted to. They can ask... it doesn't mean you are required to answer. :)
I understood the reason for the second one, but not the other two.
So what is the big deal of those questions?
Do u have a gun?
Yes I do.Actually I have it with me right here in my jacket,(Uzi).
What religion you have?
Ahhhhh, a ltittle kinda like disorganized one. :D
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on July 03, 2009, 08:31 AM NHFT
I have never had any problem with only answering the questions I wanted to. They can ask... it doesn't mean you are required to answer. :)
That includes date of birth and slave surveillance number. You are not required to answer. If the rationale is for credit check, pay with cash.
Quote from: Friday on July 03, 2009, 07:15 AM NHFT
- Do you have a gun in your home?
- What religion are you?
- Do you have a smoke detector in your home?
No, but I have a flamethrower. :violent5:
Jedi
No, it was lost in a freak accident with the flamethrower.
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on July 03, 2009, 08:31 AM NHFT
I have never had any problem with only answering the questions I wanted to. They can ask... it doesn't mean you are required to answer. :)
Yup, me too! When my daughter took my grandaughter to the doctors a couple of months ago I offered to fill out the "questionarre" for her and asked the nurse why they needed to know everyone's name that lived in our house. She said, it was too make sure the baby was in a safe environment. I said, so your basically saying that by me putting everyone's name down you can tell if they are "safe" people or not? She started getting snotty with me and I said I refuse to put any info down and it's none of her business who lives in our house.
My daughter answered a couple of verbal questions and I gave her "the look" letting her know that she didn't have to answer crap so she stopped.
Usually to save a confrontation I just check off, "no", to most of their stupid questions but this time they even wanted people's names in my household, I couldn't shut up.
The intrusive questions are a problem and of course, with government healthcare on the horizon, maybe it will soon be more than just snotty attitudes we'll have to handle. I had complications with a contact lens and got an eye infection. They presented me with a questionairre including my sexual orientation, number of sexual partners, smoking habits, people in my household, etc. I didn't answer anything that didn't have to do with allergies and billing. I got a big lecture about how it's for my own good and then after getting my meds, switched doctors. A friend's wife went in for a prenatal checkup and they handed her a questionairre about domestic violence amongst other things. Since when is pregnancy a red flag for domestic violence? She's very mild mannered and didn't understand why I was so perturbed at this news. I live in CA. The thing is, as far as I know, it is not mandated for a patient to answer these questions, but it is sad that people, as sheep, just answer. La-di-da, la-di-da.
What is she complaining about? If you choose to to the man for your drugs then you can expect a nosy, invasive bureaucracy. Does this surprise some of you? If you really feel the need to put chemicals into your body, why don't you at least be agorist about it and help the counter-economic market by getting your fix from someone who operates independently and will pay more attention to your needs than to government filing requirements?
My doctor is an ND, not an MD. Not only does he do a better job helping me be healthy than any MD I've ever seen, but the only thing we ever talk about is my health (which ironically is what MDs claim they're interested in, though your MD is about as likely to cure your health as the government is to cure inflation). He's never asked me to fill out any forms, I've never told him where I live or anything, and he charges me in cash for each visit. I doubt than anyone but he and I know that I'm his patient. (And he's a hell of a lot less expensive than your lab-coat wearing, AMA-approved scam artists who masquerade as health professionals.)
As far as I'm concerned, and with limited exception, people who voluntarily subject themselves to the medical-industrial complex ask for and get just what they deserve.
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 19, 2009, 02:20 PM NHFT
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Just dilute the proper aneurysm-causing substance to the carefully scientifically determined ratio of 1.648x10^-27, smack the bottle 10 times on the counter, and BE HEE-ulled!
Hal Le Lu Ya!
I think the Dr.s ask these questions, because they don't want to get to know patients.
I had a Dr. ask me that and more.
my favorite was "Do you wear a seat belt 100% of the time?"
I responded "No."
He starts a speech about how important it is to wear a seat belt anytime you're in a car...
I interrupt and say, "Well, that's not what you asked. I'm not wearing a seat belt right now for instance."
He finishes his speech about 50,000 deaths a year, and this is the most preventable cause of death for people in my age bracket.
He didn't care what I answered, he had a canned speech for each of the options. Yes = that's good, No = that's bad, because...
Wow, the doctors you guys see sound like dicks. My doc makes suggestions, not rules.
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 19, 2009, 02:20 PM NHFT
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Hi Pat! :) Did you ever hear of this stuff called Heart and Body Extract? It has cayenne pepper and other ingredients that are supposed to dissolve clog arteries and aneurysms too, I think. If you google it, you'll find it. Let me know what you think of it, if you decide to google it. :D
Quote from: mackler on July 19, 2009, 01:50 PM NHFT
What is she complaining about? If you choose to to the man for your drugs then you can expect a nosy, invasive bureaucracy. Does this surprise some of you? If you really feel the need to put chemicals into your body, why don't you at least be agorist about it and help the counter-economic market by getting your fix from someone who operates independently and will pay more attention to your needs than to government filing requirements?
My doctor is an ND, not an MD. Not only does he do a better job helping me be healthy than any MD I've ever seen, but the only thing we ever talk about is my health (which ironically is what MDs claim they're interested in, though your MD is about as likely to cure your health as the government is to cure inflation). He's never asked me to fill out any forms, I've never told him where I live or anything, and he charges me in cash for each visit. I doubt than anyone but he and I know that I'm his patient. (And he's a hell of a lot less expensive than your lab-coat wearing, AMA-approved scam artists who masquerade as health professionals.)
As far as I'm concerned, and with limited exception, people who voluntarily subject themselves to the medical-industrial complex ask for and get just what they deserve.
I went to an ND too and it cost me lots of $$. I couldn't afford it anymore, if you can or want to, I'd love for you to tell me who you go to. I do totally agree that I wasn't asked any invasive questions by the ND but I do think it's unfair to say people get what they deserve when they go to the doctors, especially if they can't afford an ND or if their insurance won't cover it.
Some NDs like to push "their" crappy elixirs off on their patients too so all are not equal. The ND I was seeing wrote out a vitamin/mineral/ Bach flower regimen for me that ended up costing way too much and then he told me after I complained about the price of the stuff, (which most of it was "his brand"), that I really could "skip" a few of them to save money. Does that mean he selectively pushes his stuff off on people that have more money, that's not right in my opinion. Maybe you have a better ND. :dontknow: I think that there are scam artists all over the place no matter where you go.
In my opinion more people just need to refuse to answer the stupid questions and more doctors need to stand up against these idiotic policies put forth via the government or AMA, (basically the same thing anyway).
Quote from: raineyrocks on July 20, 2009, 08:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 19, 2009, 02:20 PM NHFT
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Hi Pat! :) Did you ever hear of this stuff called Heart and Body Extract? It has cayenne pepper and other ingredients that are supposed to dissolve clog arteries and aneurysms too, I think. If you google it, you'll find it. Let me know what you think of it, if you decide to google it. :D
We've been down this road before, rainey. An aneurysm is not a clot or anything that can be dissolved. It is not a restriction of the artery. It is a weakening of the artery wall that causes the artery to bubble out and, in many cases, burst so it then becomes a hemorrhage.
(http://2008magnum.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/fix-a-flat.jpg)
I'm just sayin' >:D
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on July 21, 2009, 08:48 AM NHFT
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I'm just sayin' >:D
I had to clean the computer screen, Tom!!!!
;D
It's always great to be able to make light of faulty brain plumbing. :)
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 21, 2009, 01:13 AM NHFT
Quote from: raineyrocks on July 20, 2009, 08:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 19, 2009, 02:20 PM NHFT
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Hi Pat! :) Did you ever hear of this stuff called Heart and Body Extract? It has cayenne pepper and other ingredients that are supposed to dissolve clog arteries and aneurysms too, I think. If you google it, you'll find it. Let me know what you think of it, if you decide to google it. :D
We've been down this road before, rainey. An aneurysm is not a clot or anything that can be dissolved. It is not a restriction of the artery. It is a weakening of the artery wall that causes the artery to bubble out and, in many cases, burst so it then becomes a hemorrhage.
Actually, I remember now, sorry Pat. :)
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 21, 2009, 12:12 PM NHFT
Quote from: Tom Sawyer on July 21, 2009, 08:48 AM NHFT
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I'm just sayin' >:D
I had to clean the computer screen, Tom!!!!
I searched for, but could not find, a video clip of the "Inflate the autopilot!" scene from
Airplane (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/). ;D
(http://www.itrush.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/mighty-putty.jpg)
Fix-a-Flat - internal to the artery fix.
- "Small" hole in femoral artery.
- One day in the hospital
Mighty Putty - external to the artery fix.
- Largish hole in head. (Already there from previous surgery but still major surgery.)
- Need to stop the heart while doing this.
- Recovery - few days in hospital.
the correct answer is umm im wearing it doc :P
or do you need some new glasses its being Openly Carried as we speak
Quote from: KBCraig on July 22, 2009, 01:56 AM NHFT
I searched for, but could not find, a video clip of the "Inflate the autopilot!" scene from Airplane (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080339/). ;D
I talk to my doc about guns all the time. He's really into hunting.
Quote from: Jared on September 17, 2009, 11:54 AM NHFT
I talk to my doc about guns all the time. He's really into hunting.
Awesome! Usually it's the nurse that brings you to the examination room that asks the invasive questions, at least in my experiences.
I've had my doc forever, and he's great. Only problem is he's in maine (york, about 10 mins from portsmouth). I would highly recommend him to anyone here. He saved my mother's life by helping to detect a brain tumor early.
if this doctor made house calls, i could understand the question about the gun. but, what doctor makes housecalls? officers make housecalls. :fryingpan:
When my latest grandson was born Oct. 5th, he was a month and a half early so he's a preemie.
We were all visiting my son's girlfriend, (Frannie), in the hospital and two social workers walked in to introduce themselves to Frannie. It was funny, everyone turned around and looked at me like, oh crap, she's going to run her mouth because I can't stand the social service system. I think most of them are a bunch of baby/kid snatchers and thier 'system' royally sucks.
I approached Frannie's side after asking her if it was okay so I could hear what they were saying to her and that was cool with her because she appreciates my input.
So, I asked them why they were there and if this was the normal protocol of the hospital. They said, yes it was. I asked if they ask a million questions that are none of their business and they asked me to specify. I went on about the questions like, how many people live in the home, their names, are there guns, etc. and they said, yes they ask those questions.
I let them know how I feel about those questions and I asked them why they have to know everyone's name that live in a household. They told me it was because if they suspect child abuse they have a better idea of who is a suspect. They started acting very nervous, oh gosh, they are the ones getting asked the questions now, what a shocker! They told Frannie that they would be back to talk to her later after Frannie repeatedly told them she didn't mind if they talk to her in front of everyone.
I also told them that I would understand the purpose of their visit if it was to help give Frannie information about taking care of a preemie when he comes home, but otherwise I said their visit was nonsense and intrusive. I guess they didn't like me. :P
There is a lot of data required of us to document on patients in home heath care regardless if they are paying by insurance or medicare. Medicare forces that what is collected for medicare, also be collected for private pay patients, under Certificate of Participation (COP) and is collected electronically. I hate this stuff so much that I have given notice. I am quitting with some other options available, however when you work in these systems you get it one way or another due to the regs and how regs are interpreted by who you work for. Nevertheless, working in heathcare forces you into these kind of dilemmas a lot, more to come with Obama care. Too much electronic data collection interferes with patient care and patient privacy. HIPPA is not private from government. I want to be richer and break these chains...
Indeed, just wait how much "better" it gets this Thursday when Obamacare passes.
I volunteer to be first in line for a jailin' for refusing to buy state-mandated insurance.
I had VNA coming in for 30 minutes PT three days per week in Sept. The third week she brings in a brand new laptop with her. My sessions then became 5 minutes PT and 25 minutes answering her questions to enter in the computer. Goodbye!
The speech therapist refused the computer and went on her way - per diem contractor.
I went for lab work yesterday, I order my own through healthcheckusa.com, we don't have insurance and they are the cheapest lab tests I can find. Anyway, the lady asked me for my drivers license so I told her I didn't have one and asked her why she was asking for it. She told me alot of people come in to get labwork done in someone elses name so I asked her why in the world someone would do that and she didn't answer. ::)
Why would someone get labwork for someone else? Wouldn't they want to know their own results? It's not like I was being drug tested so why would she even ask for my Id? :dontknow:
Quote from: raineyrocks on April 11, 2370, 04:40 AM NHFT
Why would someone get labwork for someone else?
Drug tests, mostly. Sometimes insurance fraud, if they're checking for pre-existing conditions (PSA, etc.)
I'm just sure the woman wouldn't lie to you...
But more importantly, you don't have health insurance? That's a jailin' round here.
Quote from: KBCraig on January 10, 2010, 11:57 AM NHFT
Quote from: raineyrocks on April 11, 2370, 04:40 AM NHFT
Why would someone get labwork for someone else?
Drug tests, mostly. Sometimes insurance fraud, if they're checking for pre-existing conditions (PSA, etc.)
Oh yeah, I didn't think of that. :-\
Quote from: Ogre on January 10, 2010, 11:58 AM NHFT
I'm just sure the woman wouldn't lie to you...
But more importantly, you don't have health insurance? That's a jailin' round here.
Really, why?
Quote from: raineyrocks on January 10, 2010, 12:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: Ogre on January 10, 2010, 11:58 AM NHFT
But more importantly, you don't have health insurance? That's a jailin' round here.
Really, why?
Because insurance is mandatory in Mass. You buy it, or they take your money and/or put you in jail.
Get used to it. The same system is coming to the entire U.S. if Obama gets his way.
Quote from: KBCraig on January 10, 2010, 12:28 PM NHFT
Quote from: raineyrocks on January 10, 2010, 12:04 PM NHFT
Quote from: Ogre on January 10, 2010, 11:58 AM NHFT
But more importantly, you don't have health insurance? That's a jailin' round here.
Really, why?
Because insurance is mandatory in Mass. You buy it, or they take your money and/or put you in jail.
Get used to it. The same system is coming to the entire U.S. if Obama gets his way.
Oh, okay, thanks. I knew about it being mandatory in Mass. but I don't live there. Yeah, I know what a load of crap, watch Obama get his way. >:(
Indeed, that's what I was referring to, the National Socialist Health Care system coming quite soon.
What I find quite telling about the system is how you will be jailed. They will not permit you to go to jail for not having health insurance. That would make the government look bad. Instead, you will be fined by the IRS, and the fine will be added to your taxes. If you do not prove to the IRS that you have government approved health insurance, the IRS will require you to pay more "taxes." If you do not pay that additional tax, then you will be jailed for failure to pay taxes, NOT for failure to buy government-approved health insurance.
I inquired the other day at the practice I work for if we require patients show an ID each time they come - or was this law.
It was part of the "red flag" law passed last year - although it was pulled back as far as health care providers go - but may be put back in place in May of this year. The red flag laws consider health care providers to be creditors because we technically are extending credit by allowing you to not pay the portion of the fee that will likely be paid by your insurance company.
Our practice continues to ask for ID, because we're likely going to have to comply again in a few months and changing policy back and forth is just a pain in the butt. :)
Please note - I don't agree with this law, but I thought I would post what I had learned since the subject had been brought up.
On the flip side, I can also appreciate the possibility of medical identity theft - and showing ID does likely help to prevent that. I know I don't want someone using my name to get medical care - and having THEIR medical details added to MY medical records!
Now, if you are paying cash 100% of the time, I don't think the red flag laws should apply....and the chance of medical identity theft would be lessened.....but I can also appreciate that a practice could see 100's of people on a given day - they can't possibly remember who is who all of the time....and it would be fairly reasonable to expect the practice's policies would be applied to all patients.
From the AMA:
Red Flags Rule (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/no-index/physician-resources/red-flags-rule.shtml)
Protect your Patients, Protect Your Practice: What You Need to Know about the Red Flags Rule
Compliance Date: June 1, 2010
Update: The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has delayed the compliance deadline of the Red Flags Rule until June 1, 2010. The AMA will utilize this time to convince the FTC and Congress to republish the rule so that there is sufficient opportunity to formally comment and state the AMA's objections to physician inclusion in the program.
In Nov. 2007, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) issued a set of regulations, known as the "Red Flags Rule," requiring that certain entities develop and implement written identity theft prevention and detection programs to protect consumers from identity theft. Originally scheduled for a Nov. 1, 2008 compliance date, the FTC has now delayed the enforcement date of the Red Flags Rule until June 1, 2010. The new compliance date of June 1, 2010, which follows three earlier extensions to May 1, August 1 and then later to Nov. 1, is a result of continued advocacy by the AMA and others who continue to object to the applicability of this Rule to health care providers and other professionals.
Since the Rule was issued, the AMA has objected to the FTC's interpretation that physician practices are "creditors" when they accept insurance and bill patients after services are provided or if they allow patients to set up payment plans after services have been provided. The FTC states that this delay is intended to "give creditors and financial institutions more time to review this guidance and develop and implement written Identity Theft Prevention Programs."
While the AMA intends to continue to make the case to Congress and the agency that the FTC should republish the rule so that there is sufficient opportunity to formally comment and state the AMA's objections to physician inclusion in the program, the AMA has prepared a guidance document, along with sample policies, so that members can incorporate a simple identity theft prevention and detection program into their existing compliance and HIPAA security and privacy policies.
Red Flags Rule Guidance Document (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/red-flags-rule-edu.pdf) [PDF FIle]
This informative resource addresses the following questions:
* What is the purpose of the Red Flags Rule?
* How do the rules differ from HIPAA Privacy and Security Rules?
* Who has to comply with the Red Flags Rule?
* What is a "Red Flag"?
* How can physician practices comply with the Red Flags Rules?
Sample Policy (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/pub/upload/mm/368/red-flags-rule-policy.pdf) [PDF FIle]
This resource includes simple, customizable policies and procedures to incorporate into your practice in order to comply with the requirements of the Red Flags Rule that entities have reasonable policies and procedures in place to identify, detect, and respond to Red Flags. Also included in this policy is the FTC's Identity Theft Affidavit (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/resources/forms/affidavit.pdf), which can be used by patients who may be victims of identity theft.
AMA member's can access the Word version of the Sample policy (http://www.ama-assn.org/ama1/x-ama/upload/mm/368/red-flags-rule-policy.doc) [Requires Login] (Word Doc) and adapt it to their individual practice.
FTC's frequently asked questions (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/redflagsrule/faqs.shtm) about the Red Flags Rule.
"Fight Fraud with the Red Flags Rule: A How-To Guide for Businesses" (http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/business/idtheft/bus23.pdf) [PDF File]
Quote from: Friday on July 03, 2009, 07:15 AM NHFT
- Do you have a gun in your home?
- What religion are you?
- Do you have a smoke detector in your home?
At the risk of being accused of being a bigot, I give you the expedient and politically incorrect way of dealing with the slave mentality...
the answers are:
NO
JEWISH
YES
First, off there are some partially jewish kids in my family. But, i find that is a real jaw dropper. The best part about the holidays in New Hampshire is when some good citizen chastises you for saying 'merry christmass'. Well, a good old 'happy hanukkah' really silences them. Works very well with the salvation army folk working the kettle... anybody else out their into kabbalah or gematria ?
I had a difficult time going to temple. Have you ever heard of an Irish Jew?!
Quote from: Pat McCotter on January 21, 2010, 02:39 AM NHFT
I had a difficult time going to temple. Have you ever heard of an Irish Jew?!
"the Jews and Irish are a lot alike, Us Irish are just less focused"
Tommy Tiernan - Irish Comedian Video by Lizzie Sarah - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1293566677)
The Scotts taught the Jews frugality and taught the Irish to drink. My parents adopted my Jewish girlfriend and for years we had a Hanukkah Bush with a six sided star on top.
Quote from: Pat McCotter on January 21, 2010, 02:39 AM NHFT
I had a difficult time going to temple. Have you ever heard of an Irish Jew?!
hey! i'm half irish and circumcised. do i qualify.
i inhaled and got high... what's the big deal ?
Quote from: "Chuckles" on January 21, 2010, 05:40 AM NHFT
The Scotts taught the Jews frugality and taught the Irish to drink.
The Irish invented bagpipes, and the Scots have yet to figure out that it was a practical joke.
Quote from: Raineyrocks on July 20, 2009, 08:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 19, 2009, 02:20 PM NHFT
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Hi Pat! :) Did you ever hear of this stuff called Heart and Body Extract? It has cayenne pepper and other ingredients that are supposed to dissolve clog arteries and aneurysms too, I think. If you google it, you'll find it. Let me know what you think of it, if you decide to google it. :D
Is there any peer-reviewed research that underlies the claim that cayenne dissolves arteries? I know it has many health benefits but have never heard that. I know there have been some "purge" diets that relied on vile cayenne/lemonade mixes. Their efficacy was never proven.
Quote from: microtone on January 21, 2010, 12:37 AM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on July 03, 2009, 07:15 AM NHFT
- Do you have a gun in your home?
- What religion are you?
- Do you have a smoke detector in your home?
Answers:
1. we do have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch. Tis one of the sacred relics Bro. Maynard carries.
2. Scientologist OT Level 8..so I really don't NEED medical care do I?
3. Yep...it's right over my indoor altar. dedicated to Tom Cruise.. Safety first.
1. we do have the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
lol Gotta love someone with a Monty Python reference. With the added bonus of annoying Richard. lol
crazy questions to ask
of course the dr. teaches gun safety ...... guns need to be safely in the hands of law enforcement
Quote from: Patrick on April 01, 2011, 01:50 PM NHFT
Quote from: Raineyrocks on July 20, 2009, 08:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 19, 2009, 02:20 PM NHFT
Maybe he can help fix my aneurysm so I can go back to work.
Hi Pat! :) Did you ever hear of this stuff called Heart and Body Extract? It has cayenne pepper and other ingredients that are supposed to dissolve clog arteries and aneurysms too, I think. If you google it, you'll find it. Let me know what you think of it, if you decide to google it. :D
Is there any peer-reviewed research that underlies the claim that cayenne dissolves arteries? I know it has many health benefits but have never heard that. I know there have been some "purge" diets that relied on vile cayenne/lemonade mixes. Their efficacy was never proven.
I don't know if there are any peer-reviewed research studies about cayenne, if you want to just look it up. I've read testemonies, (sp?), about it but I know that's not the same thing. :)
Cayenne is good stuff but I might have to lay off if it really does dissolve arteries.