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Title: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 21, 2005, 01:48 AM NHFT
1/26 WED 12PM I'll be "sign waving" against the proposed seatbelt law.   An hour later the House meets.  I don't know what's on their agenda that day, but they'll be there so I'll be there.

I plan to make a sign and stand at the following location where one can be seen by half the reps as they go in.
To find me and join the fun:

Head to Louden and Main, right in front of the bank....

Map:
http://maps.yahoo.com/maps_result?ed=Z76Xp.p_0To5YKxER5cVNAeWnk4-&csz=concord+nh&country=us&new=1&name=&qty=

Most of the legislators will drive by me in the left hand turn lane on Louden.     Unfortunately since they are turning not all of them will see but this still seems to be the best spot and one gets seen by thousands of others besides the reps.    Protesting at the capitol itself a block south can be effective too but I'm no expert on that and I think you need a permit.   I think you can get that in the legislature building.

  Sign will probably say

FIGHT THE
SEATBELT
LAW
NHunderground.com


See you there...or not!
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 21, 2005, 12:19 PM NHFT
You could even keep track of how many people drive by without seatbelts on. :)
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: jcpliberty on January 21, 2005, 12:26 PM NHFT
You could even keep track of how many people drive by without seatbelts on. :)

I'll be there with you!

JP
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 21, 2005, 12:47 PM NHFT
If we wanted to be a little more edgy...we could set up a seatbelt checkpoint at the entrances to the parking structures near the capital. ;D Give the polititians a little feel for our potential future experiences.
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: jcpliberty on January 21, 2005, 12:48 PM NHFT
If we wanted to be a little more edgy...we could set up a seatbelt checkpoint at the entrances to the parking structures near the capital. ;D Give the polititians a little feel for our potential future experiences.

That sounds like a fun idea!

JP
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 23, 2005, 01:15 AM NHFT
I'll post more ideas for sign slogans shortly... They're on the other computer.

Kill the Seatbelt Bill
NH33.com
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 23, 2005, 08:01 AM NHFT
We could use a "Kill the Bill" sign.....you could use that one about every day. ;) Just add another sign with a bill#
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on January 23, 2005, 08:18 AM NHFT
We could use a "Kill the Bill" sign.....you could use that one about every day. ;) Just add another sign with a bill#

Just making and useing such a sign and making it obvious that the bill number can be changed sort of, makes its own statement.
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 23, 2005, 08:21 AM NHFT
You are right :)
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Kat Kanning on January 23, 2005, 08:35 AM NHFT
http://www.fosters.com/January2005/01.23.05/news/do_01.23.05a.asp

"Having worked as a police officer in New Hampshire for a quarter century and now as the New Hampton police chief, Sawyer understands the "Live free or die" mentality. But when it comes to passing laws that will help make all people, state residents and visitors safer, Sawyer believes the motto doesn?t really apply.

"Sometimes you need a little Big Brother," Sawyer said."
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: John on January 23, 2005, 09:12 AM NHFT
Hey!  Big Brother,
Stay Out Of My Car
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 23, 2005, 09:12 AM NHFT
So how many different kinds of "safety belts" is just enough Big Brother...I wonder ::)
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 23, 2005, 09:14 AM NHFT
Hey!? Big Brother,
Stay Out Of My Car
Isn't that one of the reasons to carry a gun? ....to keep intruders out of our vehicles
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 24, 2005, 04:44 PM NHFT
Here are some options for Seatbelt signs:

KILL THE
SEATBELT
BILL
NH33.COM

NO GOVT
BACKSEAT
DRIVER

MY
SEATBELT
MY CHOICE
NH33.COM

Govt
hoarde
out of my
Ford

Government turbans
Out of our suburbans

Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: jcpliberty on January 24, 2005, 04:46 PM NHFT
Government turbans
Out of our suburbans

What's THAT supposed to mean?

JP
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 24, 2005, 04:52 PM NHFT
What if we were to take Russells idea (above) about following state reps and apply it to Sawyer instead?    i.e. show up at his office 4:30 pm and say hi we're here to check on Chief Sawyer and make sure he puts his seatbelt on when he leaves the station today.

I don't really like the idea of annoying state reps to make this point...since that would alienate people who'd otherwise be supportive.  Even doing this to the state rep who sponosored the bill would be a bad idea since the folks who are voting on it probably consider him colleague or friend.   They'd be alienated by that also.

But Sawyer is  different story.   He represents an organization and job description which is  relentlessly anti-freedom.  You *want* to alienate his kind from time to time.




Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 24, 2005, 06:25 PM NHFT
I like that idea. Visit donut shops around NH and check for cop seatbelt usage....you know it "costs society as a whole when seatbelts are not used"  8)
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 24, 2005, 06:26 PM NHFT
i.e. show up at his office 4:30 pm and say hi we're here to check on Chief Sawyer and make sure he puts his seatbelt on when he leaves the station today.
Do you think he works all the way up to 5pm? He could be out by 2 ::)
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: dawn on January 24, 2005, 11:22 PM NHFT
Here are some options for Seatbelt signs:

MY
SEATBELT
MY CHOICE
NH33.COM


This is my favorite one!

I also agree with not hassling the legislators regarding their seatbelt use or lack there of. It's definitely a funny idea though!
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 25, 2005, 12:32 AM NHFT
Russell I *don't* like the idea of hassling rank and file cops over their seatbelt use (although I recognize you could just be pulling our legs LOL)  But anyway the reason for that is many of them are supportiive if you don't alienate them.  Same thing with teachers.

Talk down the leaders not the employees...


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Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 25, 2005, 06:19 AM NHFT
I don't like cops hassling us about our seatbelt use. :(
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: jgmaynard on January 25, 2005, 05:37 PM NHFT
Could get pictures of any cops on their way to the meeting who don't wear seat belts. The Supreme Court has ruled that if someone is outside, they are implicitly giving their permission to be photgraphed :D

JM
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Russell Kanning on January 25, 2005, 05:55 PM NHFT
 8)
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 26, 2005, 10:37 AM NHFT
cancelling this  ...I'm fighting a cold as of this morning :(   Also Don Gorman told me yesterday he thinks this kind of lonewolf protest at that location may do more harm than good, so it didn't seem like deepening my cold over.   Do plan to be at Hampton Thursday however.
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Lori on January 26, 2005, 07:53 PM NHFT
Hi,

I am sorry you don't feel well.  All this nasty weather got you down?  :-[  The cold give you one?

You have been such a trooper to be out in the freezing weather so much it was bound to knock you about for a bit.  I hope that you got some rest today and stayed warm.  It would have been a NASTY day to be outside!  Make sure you drink plenty of liquids and don't think you are all better in a day.   ;)  You aren't superman...  Or are you?  LOL  Maybe you all are superheros, that's how you have been able to keep going at such a great pace and it takes kryptonite to get you down.

Have a great nite.  See you in cyberspace... until reality hits.

Lori
Title: Re: Concord 1/26 protest against seatbelt law
Post by: Dave Ridley on January 26, 2005, 11:52 PM NHFT
Thanks Lori!  Well not going has definitely made a difference, I think it will be a really minor cold.