Any of you liberty ladies have any advice or experience with male stalkers that you'd like to share? If you don't want to share it publicly, PM me. Looking to bounce ideas around for women to use against stalkers.
There's gotta be a Counter-Stalking website somewhere on the net.? LOL
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=counter+stalking&spell=1
Here's my counter-stalking product:
(http://www.gunshopfinder.com/Glock/G19.jpg)
;D
Seriously, have you seen any movies where a woman is being stalked by her ex-boyfriend?
She'll be getting terrorized, screaming and crying out of helplessness.
Sometimes she's on the verge of being killed and you keep screaming at the TV, "WHERE'S YOUR GUN?? OH COME ON!? WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU?!? JUST SHOOT HIM, ALREADY!"? ?:D
Is that what Ghandi would have done, Mike? ;) jk......
JM
I don't think Glocks are very easy for women to handle.
Quote from: katdillon on October 02, 2005, 04:27 AM NHFT
I don't think Glocks are very easy for women to handle.
That's what a LadySmith is for. ;)
(http://www.firearms.smith-wesson.com/userimages/163808_large.jpg)
;)
Quote from: katdillon on October 02, 2005, 04:27 AM NHFT
I don't think Glocks are very easy for women to handle.
Which model did you try?? Some are better than others for smaller hands.? My wife is
petite and does ok with the Glock 19 (9mm) but does not like the larger .45 models
as the grips are wider around.
She also has the Taurus version of what LR6 is showing ^^^^ but it is not overly
pleasant to shoot due to its small size. For a new-to-gun person, I would not recommend
something that small as it will be a little intimidating at first.?
Here is the one she used to have,? but traded it regretably to get the more compact version.
This one I would recommend highly to anyone:? S&W Model 65LS. It is a .357 magnum, but
that means it can shoot the milder .38 Special +P rounds as well, making it very versatile as
well. It is very easy to shoot, and the smaller grip makes it easy for the small-handed.
Oh, and it would work in the counterstalking role (back on topic ;) )
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Quote from: Equality 7-2521 on October 02, 2005, 12:02 PM NHFT
Quote from: katdillon on October 02, 2005, 04:27 AM NHFT
I don't think Glocks are very easy for women to handle.
Which model did you try?? Some are better than others for smaller hands.? My wife is
petite and does ok with the Glock 19 (9mm) but does not like the larger .45 models
as the grips are wider around.
I love my Glock model 36. Subcompact .45 6+1, which is enough. I have small hands (ring size 4.5, 5, 6) and I handle it just fine, never feel out of control. It's also concealable on my 200lbs. Easy to take care of, easy to clean, easy to operate, and ambidexterous.
http://www.glock.com/g36.htm
<img src="http://www.glock.com/g36.jpg">
My best advice for stalkers is to be armed, to let it be known that you're armed, and to have a friend at the police department, even if just by being reasonable and smart and not freaky-out-y at the policeman who takes your inital report. Most police like to think of themselves as good guys and most of them have huge damsel-in-distress triggers and I'm not too proud to have used that to my advantage and gotten the help I needed to make sure that my stalker would never attempt to disturb me again. Really, it's amazing what just one phone call to his home from a pissed-off cop will do to curb a guy's libido.
Quote from: 9thmoon on October 18, 2005, 02:00 PM NHFT
My best advice for stalkers is to be armed, to let it be known that you're armed.
I'll try that out next time I am stalking someone.
A firearm is the best counter-stalker ever created.
The bible says god created all men equal.
Sam Colt transformed the ideas in that flimsy parchement into steel.
Quote from: polyanarch on October 18, 2005, 02:13 PM NHFT
The bible says god created all men equal.
I thought the constitution said that.
But, if you are going to counter stalk, do it from a distance:
(http://www.dsarms.com/images/ewstd.jpg)
The constitution IS the bible. That other text is just speculative fiction. The gospels are just the archives of an ancient pre-cyber flame-war between the apostles in corrispondence through the Roman mails. Not much to base a whole religion around but people are crazy...
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 02:12 PM NHFT
Quote from: 9thmoon on October 18, 2005, 02:00 PM NHFT
My best advice for stalkers is to be armed, to let it be known that you're armed.
I'll try that out next time I am stalking someone.
Hee hee. Guess it's too late to edit that.
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 02:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: polyanarch on October 18, 2005, 02:13 PM NHFT
The bible says god created all men equal.
I thought the constitution said that.
I thought it was the declaration of independence :P
It was the counter-stalking, shambling inaliens from the UFO conspiracy.
Quote from: katdillon on October 18, 2005, 03:47 PM NHFT
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 02:17 PM NHFT
Quote from: polyanarch on October 18, 2005, 02:13 PM NHFT
The bible says god created all men equal.
I thought the constitution said that.
I thought it was the declaration of independence :P
Oh, yea. The constitution has that 3/5 stuff. I like the DOI better.... Indian Savages. ;)
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 08:42 PM NHFT
Oh, yea. The constitution has that 3/5 stuff.
If you object to the 3/5 provision, I guess you prefer slave states being stronger.
Quote from: KBCraig on October 18, 2005, 10:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 08:42 PM NHFT
Oh, yea. The constitution has that 3/5 stuff.
If you object to the 3/5 provision, I guess you prefer slave states being stronger.
Did I say I objected to it?
No, I am just pointing out that all men are not equal according to the US constitution.
Quote from: Scott Roth on October 19, 2005, 08:39 AM NHFT
But the Constitution never "created" any men.
Either did Jehovah
Documents don't create men. The Bible didn't "create" men.
But the Constitution assigned the value of 1 to some people, and the value of 3/5 to some other people.
Oh, is Steve Cobb really black?
http://www.freestateproject.org/news/festival/festival04/videos/
(http://www.freestateproject.org/news/festival/festival04/videos/SteveCobb.jpg)
http://forum.freestateproject.org//index.php?topic=10999.msg147659#msg147659
Quote
I'm a 40-year-old black atheist technical manager living in Moscow.
Quote from: president on October 19, 2005, 09:21 AM NHFT
Documents don't create men. The Bible didn't "create" men.
But the Constitution assigned the value of 1 to some people, and the value of 3/5 to some other people.
Point well taken. The Constitution was a flawed document. There is no need to point to the 3/5th's rule to prove that. The fact that it has been utterly ineffective to stem the tide of tyranny shows that it is not worth the hemp it was written on.
I say we smoke it.
Quote from: president on October 19, 2005, 07:27 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on October 18, 2005, 10:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 08:42 PM NHFT
Oh, yea. The constitution has that 3/5 stuff.
If you object to the 3/5 provision, I guess you prefer slave states being stronger.
Did I say I objected to it?
No, I am just pointing out that all men are not equal according to the US constitution.
That is not true. ?The U.S. Constitution does not say that slaves are only 3/5's a man. ?I learned about the Constitution in elementary school and I still know about it.
"In determining the number of representatives Southern states should have in the House, Southern states argued that slaves should be fully counted. ?Northerners did not think the slaves should be counted at all. ?The compromise was that slaves should be counted as three-fifths of a person when determining representation. ?This compromise on a very contentious issues was not a statement about black people as 'three-fifths of a person' in any metaphysical or biological sense." ?Thomas E. Woods from The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.
owie! My Karma is dropping like a rock.
I must hide my face! Shunning hurts so...
Kira and I are reading that book now, TNFSP :)
Quote from: katdillon on October 19, 2005, 09:30 AM NHFT
Kira and I are reading that book now, TNFSP :)
In that case, my quote came from page 18. However, this is one of the few things that I was taught correctly in elementary, middle, and high school.
Quote from: TN-FSP on October 19, 2005, 09:33 AM NHFT
In that case, my quote came from page 18. However, this is one of the few things that I was taught correctly in elementary, middle, and high school.
You mean public schools work?
He didn't say they were public schools.
Quote from: polyanarch on October 19, 2005, 09:35 AM NHFT
Quote from: TN-FSP on October 19, 2005, 09:33 AM NHFT
In that case, my quote came from page 18.? However, this is one of the few things that I was taught correctly in elementary, middle, and high school.
You mean public schools work?
Hey, I never said that :)
Quote from: TN-FSP on October 19, 2005, 09:26 AM NHFT
Quote from: president on October 19, 2005, 07:27 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on October 18, 2005, 10:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: president on October 18, 2005, 08:42 PM NHFT
Oh, yea. The constitution has that 3/5 stuff.
If you object to the 3/5 provision, I guess you prefer slave states being stronger.
Did I say I objected to it?
No, I am just pointing out that all men are not equal according to the US constitution.
That is not true. The U.S. Constitution does not say that slaves are only 3/5's a man. I learned about the Constitution in elementary school and I still know about it.
"In determining the number of representatives Southern states should have in the House, Southern states argued that slaves should be fully counted. Northerners did not think the slaves should be counted at all. The compromise was that slaves should be counted as three-fifths of a person when determining representation. This compromise on a very contentious issues was not a statement about black people as 'three-fifths of a person' in any metaphysical or biological sense." Thomas E. Woods from The Politically Incorrect Guide to American History.
You are reading something I didn't write.
I said "all men are not equal according to the US constitution". I did not say the Constitution says slaves are only 3/5 of a man. And you provided a quote saying that men are not equal according to the Constitution. Thanks. But I think your quote is more about the difference between blacks and slaves. The constitution doesn't say anything about "blacks", and that is what your quote is pointing out.
OK let's make this more challenging. How about countering a person who is stalking a woman in a state where concealed carry is not allowed? Brainstorms?
Quote from: DadaOrwell on November 13, 2005, 09:40 PM NHFT
OK let's make this more challenging. How about countering a person who is stalking a woman in a state where concealed carry is not allowed? Brainstorms?
Carry concealed anyway?
Oops, I didn't say that.
Um...move?
Carry open!
There are many legal "non-lethal" weapons which are or can be lethal when aimed correctly. Possibly you don't need a license to carry one.
Martial arts, close-combat self-defense training.
I'm running low on ideas. When it happened to me, the answer was blindingly simple, and I'd be carrying concealed even if it were illegal.
She should marry a nice guy who carries all the time and move to NH where she can carry too ;)
How about pepper spray?
Quote from: DadaOrwell on November 13, 2005, 09:40 PM NHFT
OK let's make this more challenging.? How about countering a person who is stalking a woman in a state where concealed carry is not allowed?? ?Brainstorms?
Carry anyways.
Quote from: Scott Roth on November 14, 2005, 06:48 PM NHFT
Carry first...ask questions later. 8)
Seriously I have a friend who was killed by a stalker..so it's no joke. I have been stalked a few times myself. (Today was one day I thought it might start again!)
The friend who was killed was supposed to be being protected by police but was not, and he eventually ambushed her in a parking garage.
I say, don't depend on the police. Depend on yourself and your piece....and if you don't have one, get one.
Ladies (and gentlemen), take a look at the attached PDF. Print it out and read it several times - it could save your life.
I hope this helps.
** NOTE: See my followup post below. The PDF file is too large to post on the forum. **
it didn't work >:(
Ah, so I'm not the only one to get a "broken document" message.
I just realized that there is a 250k limit on file attachments. This is a 1.5 mb file enveloping a 48-page full color book.
Here is the link where you can download it directly:
http://www.trsdirect.com/report.shtml
It's an excellent piece of work. Be safe everyone...
Perhaps you could summarize what it is, what it's about, and what makes it worth downloading.
Kevin
Here is the Table of Contents:
Introduction: Learning to Survive
Secret 1: Zones of Awareness
Secret 2: Philosophy
Secret 3: First Moves
Secret 4: Finish Moves
Secret 5: Against Weapons
Bonus Section