I need to get rid of a lot of stuff by December 1st. I have lots of tools, clothes, furniture, appliances, etc. If you'd like to buy or hold onto some of my stuff, please let me know ASAP. If you want my clothes washer & dryer, you can have them if you want them. I'd be willing to give my portable energy star rated dishwasher to a friend or sell it really cheap to someone else (it's the same model that the McGuires have in their bar). I'm giving away my air conditioner and a bunk bed. I have a lot of really cool books that I don't know what to do with. Anyone want to hold onto a bunch of neat books and book cases? I have Michael Badnarik's book in like new condition with his signature in it. On December 1st I'll either be homeless or in the custody of the State, and anything that isn't removed from my apartment will probably be lost. My home number is 603-692-4712. My other number, which usually goes to voicemail is 603-617-4867. You may want to call first before driving here so that if I'm not around you won't have to wait for me. I'm planning to have the moving sale from around noon on Saturday until I'm ready to go to bed and Sunday from around 3pm until I'm ready to go to bed. If there's still stuff on Monday, I'll continue the sale that day as well. I have a bunch of metalworking and gunsmithing tools that I need to either sell or find someone to hold onto or sell for me. The sale will be mostly indoors. I'm also trying to sell my car. It needs some work to pass inspection, but it runs well. Any help would be appreciated. My address is 183 High St., Somersworth, NH
Tim
I don't understand; why will you be homeless? Surely you can find someone to rent a room from?
I would have been interested in buying some of your stuff, but unfortunately that's really short notice and I can't get over there by Dec. 1. :-\
By homeless I mean that I won't have a place of my own and I won't have enough money to rent a room for very long. If I'm not in jail or prison, I will have places where I can stay, but not places for all my stuff. Unfortunately my lawyer thinks that there's a high likelihood that I will be going to prison on the 1st of December, and I don't want to leave a bunch of stuff for my landlord to throw away and charge me for disposal. If anyone wants to hold onto a drill or angle grinder or sheet metal nibbler or impact wrench or air ratchet or socket set or drill or air compressor or bead blasting cabinet or milling machine or welder or gunsmithing tools or something else for me, I don't mind letting friends use my tools, and I realize that there is a risk of them getting damaged, but they're only things.
My brother might be driving to Manchester on Tuesday, so if you are in that area and want something specific, he might be able to deliver it.
TimO is off to court at 1PM today and may not be back for a while. His brother will advise the outcome and I'll pass that on. I hope that all our character reference letters help him somewhat...
Out of curiosity, what kind of character reference letter did you provide for a guy who sexually assaulted his 4 year old daughter?
QuoteTimothy Logsdon, 33, of 183 High St., allegedly engaged in a pattern of sexual assault on more than one occasion with a victim who is now 5 years old. A grand jury handed up an indictment in February on two counts of aggravated felonious sexual assault incest.
Quote from: LordBaltimore on December 01, 2009, 02:34 PM NHFT
Out of curiosity, what kind of character reference letter did you provide for a guy who sexually assaulted his 4 year old daughter?
QuoteTimothy Logsdon, 33, of 183 High St., allegedly engaged in a pattern of sexual assault on more than one occasion with a victim who is now 5 years old. A grand jury handed up an indictment in February on two counts of aggravated felonious sexual assault incest.
Do you believe everyone accused of a crime is guilty?
Bad news for Timo. He was sentenced to 10 years in prison today at about 3 PM. I'll start a separate thread with details as I learn them from his brother.
Terrible to hear. Tim was a good person from all my interactions and it sounded like his ex-wife and her new bf or roommate worked really hard to screw Tim's life.
Quote from: doobie on December 01, 2009, 10:37 PM NHFT
Terrible to hear. Tim was a good person from all my interactions and it sounded like his ex-wife and her new bf or roommate worked really hard to screw Tim's life.
That's what I got, too, from the family's observations. Unfortunately, Tim still loves his wife and would not fight the charges through a trial so as to not cause her any more strain. I started a separate thread for the details
Quote from: KBCraig on December 01, 2009, 05:32 PM NHFT
Do you believe everyone accused of a crime is guilty?
Are you also accusing Logsdon of perjury?
He pled guilty.
He chose between 10 years vs. 25 to life. In the article he even said he took the plea because he was scared of the longer sentence. Being forced to chose between two horrible alternatives....I'd hardly call it perjury. ::)
Quote from: LordBaltimore on December 02, 2009, 08:18 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on December 01, 2009, 05:32 PM NHFT
Do you believe everyone accused of a crime is guilty?
Are you also accusing Logsdon of perjury?
He pled guilty.
The deck was entirely stacked against him. If a man is charged with sexual assault, especially of a minor; even more so someone young enough to not really understand or is easily persuaded by another, it is nearly impossible to prove your innocence. Maybe in 5-10 years the daughter will understand what happened and know nothing did happen and somehow get her dad vindicated.
Or.....maybe he diddled his daughter and opted to go to jail for a shorter period of time than if he went to trial and was convicted.
There really are only two people who know for sure.....him and his daughter. I hope for her sake, he is innocent and he didn't commit such a horrendous, despicable thing to his own flesh and blood.
I'm with Friday - I just have a hard time believing that a man would plead guilty to molesting his small daughter and accept 10 years in jail and be listed as a sex offender for life if it wasn't true. He won't even be able to appeal. At least if he had been found guilty by a jury (assuming there was enough concocted evidence to convict if he didn't do it) he would be able to appeal. The fathers I know would fight tooth and nail to keep and protect their children....and would have fought tooth and nail to prove their innocence.
Quote from: ny2nh on December 02, 2009, 03:32 PM NHFT
...I'm with Friday - I just have a hard time believing that a man would plead guilty to molesting his small daughter and accept 10 years in jail and be listed as a sex offender for life if it wasn't true...
Some details on other thread. This type of charge is called the "Nuclear Weapon" of divorce.
I'll withhold judgement until I see more information.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on December 02, 2009, 08:30 AM NHFT
He chose between 10 years vs. 25 to life. In the article he even said he took the plea because he was scared of the longer sentence. Being forced to chose between two horrible alternatives....I'd hardly call it perjury. ::)
Who would accept a punishment for something they didn't do without putting up a fight to defend themselves? Who would willingly give up even 5 years of their life for something they know in their heart they were innocent of?
I'm sorry but I don't buy it. And as Tammy pointed out, by pleading guilty, which he did, he even gives up the chance to appeal. If he fought the charges and was found guilty and given 25 years he could appeal on every angle he could find to argue it. Heck how many true criminals are set free due to stupid legal technicalities (OJ comes to mind).
Any sympathy or question of his innocents went right out the window when he plead guilty to the crime in my opinion.
Lilidog, your childishly naïve posts really push buttons. What kidnapped by NKWD Russians, charged in courts and sentenced to gulags were guilty of?
You seam not to realize we do not have benefit of courts of justice. We do not even have the benefit of the courts of the law. All we have is court of public policy.
If it is politically expedient for somebody from the rulers class you have no chance.
Russians agreed to plead guilty whatever commissioners wanted in purpose to avoid much bigger sentences or death.
I am not interested in your statements behind safe computer keyboard what you would do or not do –empty declarations.
I know that I would go for minimum loss/maximum benefit. Yes, I would plea for 10 years vs. 25 to life. System is broken and we are to experience soviet model of it soon.
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Quote from: tony on December 02, 2009, 10:53 PM NHFTI am not interested in your statements behind safe computer keyboard what you would do or not do –empty declarations.
I know that I would go for minimum loss/maximum benefit. Yes, I would plea for 10 years vs. 25 to life. System is broken and we are to experience soviet model of it soon.
"Tony", my name is Rick Barnes. I do not hide who I am and would say the same things I say here to your face or anyone else so do no accuse me of hiding behind a keyboard if you do not know me because clearly you have no idea what your talking about.
Secondly this isn't about accepting 10 years vs 25 years. This is accepting guilt of a SEX CRIME. That has punishment far beyond just the 10 years he'll be facing behind bars.
1) By accepting guilt he eliminates any chance of appealing. Even if found guilty he can attempt to fight and have that over turned.
2) By accepting the charge of sex criminal he is now placed on a life long list that bars him from living in many places and will prevent him from ever seeing his children until they are adults.
This isn't Russia, no one had a gun to this man's head and said accept guilt or die. No, instead he has a system here that allows for appeal after appeal after appeal and many guilty people have gotten set free simply by kissing up to the right politicians or finding a loop hole in the system or just getting the lucky draw of getting a Bronx jury.
To attempt to claim we are no different then Russia where there were guns physically put to people's heads forcing them to accept guilt is childish.
Yes.
Quote from: lildog on December 02, 2009, 09:46 PM NHFT
Who would accept a punishment for something they didn't do without putting up a fight to defend themselves?
Someone who found the price of the defense higher than the price of the guilty plea, that's who.
Assuming Tim's version is accurate, defending himself would mean destroying his daughter in court. As a father, I have to tell you that I would have a hard time making that choice.
Quote from: lildog on December 03, 2009, 08:57 AM NHFT
This isn't Russia, no one had a gun to this man's head and said accept guilt or die.
I have no idea what Tim might have done...
However, to say that the prosecutor doesn't have very effective threats to make people plead guilty when they are not... you haven't been paying attention very well.
All sorts of stories where people take plea agreements, accepting a couple of years rather than face decades. The system, thanks mostly to the drug war, is now designed to grease you up and get "justice" quickly and cheaply for the court.
Quote from: KBCraig on December 03, 2009, 12:00 PM NHFT
Quote from: lildog on December 02, 2009, 09:46 PM NHFT
Who would accept a punishment for something they didn't do without putting up a fight to defend themselves?
Someone who found the price of the defense higher than the price of the guilty plea, that's who.
There are THREE choices in a court of law though... innocent, guilty or no contest.
I knew a man in NY who was a leader in a youth group I was in. He would take us out to movies and did a lot of nice things for the boys in the group. Eventually a boy in the group came forward and claimed he had been molested by this man. He never came on to me or made any moves on me personally so I don't claim to know his guilt or innocents but when he went to court rather then stand trial he plead no contest and accepted the sentence. This left the door open for him to later appeal and fight the charge if he wished. In his case he served less then 5 years and was let back out.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on December 02, 2009, 08:30 AM NHFT
He chose between 10 years vs. 25 to life. In the article he even said he took the plea because he was scared of the longer sentence. Being forced to chose between two horrible alternatives....I'd hardly call it perjury. ::)
what Tim pled guilty to included the language:
"Sexual contact" includes the intentional touching of the victim's, the defendant's, or any other person's intimate parts, or the intentional touching of the clothing covering the immediate area of the victim's, the defendant's, or any other person's intimate parts, if that intentional touching can be reasonably construed as being for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification;
what he did NOT plead guilty to, but the impression that was given by the newspaper, included the language:
"Sexual penetration" means sexual intercourse, cunnilingus, fellatio, anal intercourse, or any other intrusion, however slight, of any part of a person's body or of any object into the genital or anal openings of the victim's, the defendant's, or any other person's body, but emission of semen is not required;
Tim did not take this decision lightly. He did not have the money required to hire a lawyer that would win. He was confident that the public defender would most likely lose and he would get a manditory 25 to life.
A good lawyer can keep a criminal free, and a bad lawyer can cause an innocent man to go to jail.
Newspapers #1 priority is:
a: report the news as accurately as possible and to fact check every story
b: sell newspapers
c: to make sure that the articles are un-biased
d: none of the above
(answer: b)
D: none of the above. Their purpose is to disseminate government propaganda.
Quote from: Kat Kanning on December 31, 2009, 04:18 AM NHFT
D: none of the above. Their purpose is to disseminate government propaganda.
I wanted to put something like that, but my brain wasn't working too well at that hour. Maybe I should have put e: what you said..."just incase they don't sell enough papers, they might be able to get a bailout.
I know they are a bunch of liberal hacks. I haven't subscribed to a paper for over 10 years because of the lies.