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New Hampshire Underground => Porcupine Trading Post => Business and Job Networking => Topic started by: Kat Kanning on April 22, 2010, 04:17 AM NHFT

Poll
Question: Would you be interested in ....
Option 1: Buying fresh fish? votes: 11
Option 2: Coming to the pond and fishing? votes: 9
Option 3: Buying fish fertilizer? votes: 5
Title: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 22, 2010, 04:17 AM NHFT
Mulling around the idea of fish farming at Hoyt.  This is what I did in the peace corps, and I enjoyed it.  The other day it occurred to me that there's already a pond here, which might require only small modifications to go into fish production.  Was wondering how much interest there'd be in the fish raised, or being able to come out and fish in the pond (not too challenging, but fun for kids).
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Jim Johnson on April 22, 2010, 05:50 AM NHFT
I don't see fish pedicure on the list.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 22, 2010, 06:04 AM NHFT
heh, I hadn't thought of that.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on April 22, 2010, 06:12 AM NHFT
I tried that at Nick Gillespie's house. Killed all his fish :'(
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Pat K on April 22, 2010, 01:19 PM NHFT
Can I use a Dupont Spinner lure in the pond?
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 22, 2010, 04:05 PM NHFT
Sure  :P
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Pat K on April 22, 2010, 11:50 PM NHFT
Cool  >:D
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on April 23, 2010, 04:39 AM NHFT
The pond is kind of small. You could only deploy the Dupont Spinner Lure once.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: TackleTheWorld on April 23, 2010, 05:30 PM NHFT
I might buy trout in bulk, but not catfish.  What kind would be in the farm?
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 24, 2010, 01:21 AM NHFT
I definitely don't want to do trout.  They're too fussy about water temperature and air.  Other possibilities are bass, bluegill, catfish, bull head.

I think it's too cold to raise tilapia here.  On the plus side, NH isn't likely to see any alligators in the fish ponds.  :o
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: dalebert on April 24, 2010, 06:55 AM NHFT
Catfish taste awesome!
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 24, 2010, 07:51 AM NHFT
Can you use that Dupont Spinner Lure now?  I think my pond needs to be bigger.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: PassionatePantherrr on April 29, 2010, 02:41 PM NHFT
You might also be able to consider carp... another thing to do would be to do some testing of the pond to make sure there aren't contaminants you wouldn't want to eat in there before you get too far along in planning. Just a thought! :-)
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: KBCraig on April 29, 2010, 04:46 PM NHFT
Quote from: PassionatePantherrr on April 29, 2010, 02:41 PM NHFT
You might also be able to consider carp...

Not if you want to market them to eat.  :lil_alien:
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 29, 2010, 07:26 PM NHFT
Thanks for the idea, Denise!
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 03, 2010, 12:16 PM NHFT
I just came across this site with an idea for the aquaponic fish farm.
Agropolis (http://agropolisfarm.com/)
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Pat McCotter on September 03, 2010, 12:19 PM NHFT
http://www.grist.org/article/2010-09-02-it-almost-cant-get-more-local-than-growing-at-the-grocery-store/ (http://www.grist.org/article/2010-09-02-it-almost-cant-get-more-local-than-growing-at-the-grocery-store/)
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: anthonybpugh on September 05, 2010, 06:48 PM NHFT
As far as the fishing part...

There was this one place close to where I lived back in Iowa called Lunker Land.  It was three small ponds.  In one pond they had catfish, in another pond they had bass and I believe they had trout in the third.  You'd go there, fish and you could keep whatever you caught and paid by the pound. 

I found this that might be helpful. 
http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/pondmanagement/stocking.asp (http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/fishing/pondmanagement/stocking.asp)

http://nhaquaculture.com/pubframe.html (http://nhaquaculture.com/pubframe.html)
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: KBCraig on September 06, 2010, 01:45 AM NHFT
Catfish can be farmed in an incredibly small space. So long as the water is flowing (a recirculating system works fine), they do just fine packed gill-to-gill.

The problem in NH is that catfish don't thrive in lower temperatures. The average daily temp in NH is probably at the lower limits, and is certainly not optimal for growth. That means introducing heat to the system, which means adding overhead costs. Or, you could limit your farm to a basement-size operation.

http://www.cityfarmer.org/fish.html (http://www.cityfarmer.org/fish.html) (I disagree about tilapia, despite its popularity. It's a nasty ugly fish. But if there's a market for it... )
http://www.northescambia.com/?p=8394 (http://www.northescambia.com/?p=8394) (I disagree about clean water and clean taste... wild catfish are the best!)
http://cdserver2.ru.ac.za/cd/catfish/catfish/s40c.htm (http://cdserver2.ru.ac.za/cd/catfish/catfish/s40c.htm)
http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2000/09/25/focus6.html (http://washington.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2000/09/25/focus6.html)
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on September 06, 2010, 07:22 AM NHFT
Just about any fish farming in NH would depend on some source of heat during part of the year.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on September 06, 2010, 08:31 AM NHFT
That's not what all the people actually doing are saying.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on September 06, 2010, 08:46 AM NHFT
What are they raising? I know people raise Trout, but it takes a long time to get them to an edible size.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Kat Kanning on September 06, 2010, 08:52 AM NHFT
trout, bass, bluegill, catfish, bull head...websites were discussing the depth the ponds need to be to overwinter the fish in NH.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Pat K on September 06, 2010, 11:10 PM NHFT
If ya raise them in ya bath tub, the probably do o-k.
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: KBCraig on September 07, 2010, 02:10 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat K on September 06, 2010, 11:10 PM NHFT
If ya raise them in ya bath tub, the probably do o-k.

Yeah, that second story I linked had a picture of your bathtub...

(http://www.northescambia.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/catfish21.jpg)
Title: Re: If there were a Shire fishfarm...
Post by: Pat K on September 07, 2010, 03:08 AM NHFT
Ha!  That's an old pic, it's nicely tiled now.
And a swim up bar has been installed.