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New Hampshire Underground => Underground Projects => Secession => Topic started by: Kat Kanning on November 03, 2005, 02:23 PM NHFT

Title: Secession
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 03, 2005, 02:23 PM NHFT
Alex Jones is interviewing Thomas Naylor who is promoting VT secession.  Naylor started talking about the Free State Project.  Jones said that in 2001, NH almost voted to seceed.  Is that true?  I never heard anything about it.
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: jgmaynard on November 03, 2005, 02:38 PM NHFT
I remember something about it...... I don't remember the details, but it was hitting the news for a while......

JM
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: president on November 03, 2005, 03:01 PM NHFT
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He was probably talking about towns (or some people) trying to seceed(or talking about it) from the Free State.

http://www.newington.nh.us/news2002.htm


Look into "Coalition Communities"

and "T.R.A.S.H. ? which stands for Taxpayers' Revolt Against State Hi-jinks"
http://portsmouthherald.com/2001news/hampton/h11_4b.htm
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 03, 2005, 04:41 PM NHFT
Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that now.
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: tracysaboe on November 03, 2005, 10:25 PM NHFT
Maybe we'd succede at seceding in 5 years, after the hords of Free Staters get there, and we're educated the populace.

Tracy
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: Russell Kanning on November 04, 2005, 01:20 AM NHFT
I have to agree with ytsvu .... nothing succeeds like secession
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 04, 2005, 08:13 AM NHFT
...and we're educated the populace.

I'm sure tired of hearing this out of libertarians....it's soooo arrogant (not to mention ungrammatical).
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: Caleb on November 04, 2005, 02:45 PM NHFT
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I'm sure tired of hearing this out of libertarians....it's soooo arrogant (not to mention ungrammatical).

That's why I prefer the expression "making noise" to "educating people".  It sounds a little more humble.  And when you're persuading people, it doesn't do any good to alienate them.

"I'm going to go out and make some noise over that eminent domain issue."

or ...

"I'm going to go out and educate people about how eminent domain has harmed property rights."

Which sounds better?

What other ways can we express the same ideas without sounding arrogant?

Caleb
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: Kat Kanning on November 04, 2005, 05:11 PM NHFT
Persuation is between equals, and lacks that tone of condescension.
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: SWilliams on November 04, 2005, 06:59 PM NHFT
saying you 'enlightened' someone is REALLY condescending
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: KBCraig on November 04, 2005, 08:52 PM NHFT
saying you 'enlightened' someone is REALLY condescending

Not always.

If someone holds an opposite view from yours, and you convince them to see things your way, then it would be condescending to say you've "enlightened" them; that implies that they were inferior without your help.

But if someone simply doesn't know about something, and you make them aware of it, then that is enlightenment. Learning that it's a crime to file someone's nails without a license, for instance, is enlightenment. Learning that homes are being stolen and demolished to build private businesses is enlightenment.

Kevin
Title: Re: Secession
Post by: tracysaboe on November 04, 2005, 10:50 PM NHFT
...and we're educated the populace.

I'm sure tired of hearing this out of libertarians....it's soooo arrogant (not to mention ungrammatical).

I know. But you know what I mean. We're all friends here right?

Perhaps exemplify is better?

Tracy