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Title: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 14, 2006, 05:25 PM NHFT
My Dad went to a funeral last week. And there were a lot of people there. So he parked in a private lot witch is open to the public. And he got a parking ticket.

20 others got one too. I guess they now have to chip in to pay for 350-400 Marlboro street. And I guess you now have to walk to a funeral if you don't want a ticket nor does the city care about people resting in peace.


For the Calendar:
Hearing at 9am on 3/21 in Keene.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 14, 2006, 05:35 PM NHFT
We just don't pay the parking tickets.

Which parking lot is that one?
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 14, 2006, 05:53 PM NHFT
We just don't pay the parking tickets.

Which parking lot is that one?


I believe it was the Grange parking lot.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 14, 2006, 05:54 PM NHFT
Would the company have wanted to ticket the people? I can't really see that happening.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: KBCraig on March 14, 2006, 08:25 PM NHFT
Yeah, something's not right. If it's a private lot, but open to the public, and no signs restricting who can park there or when, then what was the basis for the tickets?
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 15, 2006, 05:50 AM NHFT
Jerks felt like they needed more stolen funds.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 15, 2006, 06:15 AM NHFT
Yeah, something's not right. If it's a private lot, but open to the public, and no signs restricting who can park there or when, then what was the basis for the tickets?
I think the National Grange lot has signs on it.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 15, 2006, 08:10 AM NHFT
Yeah, something's not right. If it's a private lot, but open to the public, and no signs restricting who can park there or when, then what was the basis for the tickets?
I think the National Grange lot has signs on it.

Shouldn't park there then, but, did the Grange folks make a complaint?
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 15, 2006, 03:20 PM NHFT
Yeah, something's not right. If it's a private lot, but open to the public, and no signs restricting who can park there or when, then what was the basis for the tickets?
I think the National Grange lot has signs on it.

Shouldn't park there then, but, did the Grange folks make a complaint?



What do you mean? Shoudnt park there? That was a big funeral for one and for 2 there was no other parking anywheres else. And the Grange is closed on Satudays so what difference would that make.

This is bad as parking on lawns and the City and a bunch od busy bodys making it a crime to park on lawns.

Then you have some clowns with in this city that want to charge a $100 fine for parking on lawns. For Christ sakes there other problems in this city that need to be addressed instead of raping people for parking in parking lots and lawns.

How about this city fix the sidewalks so the old ladys are not falling out of there wheelchairs on Marlboro st for one.

Next you'll need a permit to have a BBQ in your backyard. This is nothing more then the next step for Big Brother.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 15, 2006, 03:28 PM NHFT
Go Dude!
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 15, 2006, 03:49 PM NHFT
Go Dude!


I'm sick of this corrupt Govrnment at all levels.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 15, 2006, 04:00 PM NHFT
If the Grange had no parking signs then you shouldn't park there!  What part of no tresspassing on private property don't you understand?
The funeral home should make some kind of agreement with the grange for when they are not using their parking lot, but, they didn't.
You should pay the tickets and the money should go to the Grange, not, the city.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 15, 2006, 04:39 PM NHFT
If the Grange had no parking signs then you shouldn't park there!  What part of no tresspassing on private property don't you understand?
The funeral home should make some kind of agreement with the grange for when they are not using their parking lot, but, they didn't.
You should pay the tickets and the money should go to the Grange, not, the city.


Do they have signs stating that?
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Dreepa on March 15, 2006, 05:01 PM NHFT
This is bad as parking on lawns and the City and a bunch od busy bodys making it a crime to park on lawns.
BTW.... that is crazy that you can't park on your own damn lawn.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Kat Kanning on March 15, 2006, 05:04 PM NHFT
A while back the police came to the house across the street from us.  They parked on the lawn.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 15, 2006, 05:21 PM NHFT
I don't know if the grange has signs on their lot ...... on saturdays and sundays it is empty.

What day is your dad's hearing?
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 15, 2006, 05:26 PM NHFT
If the Grange had no parking signs then you shouldn't park there!  What part of no tresspassing on private property don't you understand?
The funeral home should make some kind of agreement with the grange for when they are not using their parking lot, but, they didn't.
You should pay the tickets and the money should go to the Grange, not, the city.


Do they have signs stating that?

Russell Kanning:
"I think the National Grange lot has signs on it."
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 15, 2006, 05:27 PM NHFT
A while back the police came to the house across the street from us.  They parked on the lawn.

You should have ticketed them
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 15, 2006, 05:28 PM NHFT
What do I know about signs?
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 15, 2006, 05:29 PM NHFT
I don't know if the grange has signs on their lot ...... on saturdays and sundays it is empty.

What day is your dad's hearing?


Tuesday at 9:00 am
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 15, 2006, 05:30 PM NHFT
A while back the police came to the house across the street from us.  They parked on the lawn.


Really, I hope you gave them hell for it too.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: tracysaboe on March 15, 2006, 07:56 PM NHFT
It was surprisingly quiet in the Keene PD.  They use intercoms to communicate to people. Big building for not much activity.

There's very little real crime in Keene.  We sure don't need all those policemen.


They are a deterrent!

Rrrriiighhggt.  ::)

I say fire 2/3 of them.

Tracy
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: tracysaboe on March 15, 2006, 07:59 PM NHFT
A while back the police came to the house across the street from us.  They parked on the lawn.

But Government always exempts itself from it's own laws. You know that.

Tracy
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 15, 2006, 09:21 PM NHFT
What do I know about signs?

I thought you said there were lots of signs at the Grange on post #22
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Russell Kanning on March 16, 2006, 09:41 AM NHFT
I think there is a sign ..... I will look today.
At night or on saturday or sunday .... I would be comfortable parking there.
Title: Re: Keene's Taj-Mahal
Post by: Happy Dude on March 16, 2006, 12:10 PM NHFT
What do I know about signs?

I thought you said there were lots of signs at the Grange on post #22

Even if that is so. It was a big funeral. And my Dad is 74 years old and you can't expect him to park 7 blocks away.

I'm sure that his pickup truck parked there for an hour and a half did not hurt anyone.
geee there was 20 others parked there for the same service.

And they got tickets as well.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 16, 2006, 12:45 PM NHFT
If that is so, it is important!  Do you think property rights are 'qualified' because there was a big funeral next door?
You should complain to the funeral home for not making arrangements for overflow parking.
The cops should not have ticketed unless there was a complaint from the Grange and then the money should go to the grange.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 16, 2006, 01:26 PM NHFT
If that is so, it is important!  Do you think property rights are 'qualified' because there was a big funeral next door?
You should complain to the funeral home for not making arrangements for overflow parking.
The cops should not have ticketed unless there was a complaint from the Grange and then the money should go to the grange.


So where should he have parked then? And then why does the City ahve to be cold harted on this issue/ Funeral for crying out lowd. It was not like he had parked there to take a stroll through the park.

There should have been no tickets. End of story. And I'm glad to see that your pro active for the City of Keene. ::) ::)
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 16, 2006, 02:30 PM NHFT
If you read my posts you will see I am for private property. We could leave the city out of it by the Grange confiscating the cars and holding them for ransom.
It is not the grange's responsibility to provide parking foranyone.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 16, 2006, 04:45 PM NHFT
If you read my posts you will see I am for private property. We could leave the city out of it by the Grange confiscating the cars and holding them for ransom.
It is not the grange's responsibility to provide parking foranyone.


You must be from CT. ::)
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 16, 2006, 05:10 PM NHFT
Now there is an intelligent argument! ::)
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 16, 2006, 05:54 PM NHFT
Now there is an intelligent argument! ::)

So you really don't know anything about Keene nor are you from here. So why butt in busineess that does not pretain to you? Sense your not from Keene?
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 16, 2006, 07:27 PM NHFT
Actually, my Great Grandfather moved to Keene in 1878, but, that is beside the point.  I don't believe the right and control of private property is any different in Keene than anywhere else.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 16, 2006, 07:39 PM NHFT
Actually, my Great Grandfather moved to Keene in 1878, but, that is beside the point.  I don't believe the right and control of private property is any different in Keene than anywhere else.


Well your post #11 has a some what of a different tune. Right?           
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Caleb on March 16, 2006, 08:45 PM NHFT
Happy Dude, you can ignore Lloyd on this ... he's just grumpy cause he can't get his LSD anymore (since he's so old, he's lost all his high school drug connections).  ;D

http://forum.soulawakenings.com/index.php?topic=3231.msg55936#msg55936
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dreepa on March 16, 2006, 09:21 PM NHFT
Yeah he was grumpy on another thread too.

Happy... LLoyd is moving to Keene. :)
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 16, 2006, 10:10 PM NHFT
Actually, my Great Grandfather moved to Keene in 1878, but, that is beside the point.  I don't believe the right and control of private property is any different in Keene than anywhere else.


Well your post #11 has a some what of a different tune. Right?           
No, My tune has not changed.  Why don't you  quit while you are just a little behind.

And ignore those other two.  They're just upset about missing out on the '70's.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dreepa on March 17, 2006, 08:54 AM NHFT
For the record LLoyd I was born in the 60s :(
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: KBCraig on March 17, 2006, 12:18 PM NHFT
For the record LLoyd I was born in the 60s :(

Lloyd was pretty --ummmm-- "active" then, you know.

Saaaaaayyyyy.... have you two ever met?  ;D
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on March 17, 2006, 12:33 PM NHFT
Yes, but, not in the '70's
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: aworldnervelink on March 17, 2006, 12:49 PM NHFT
LLoyd is entirely correct.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: SocialDemocrat on March 17, 2006, 05:26 PM NHFT

Happy dude

    Nice to see you taking on the big issues.  You and your dad should just pay the ticket and more on. Your lives are precious. Each minute even. So fight the state over more important matters and expend your energies in more meaningful ways.

This is sincere.  From the heart.

             Best

             ---SWL
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 17, 2006, 05:38 PM NHFT

Happy dude

    Nice to see you taking on the big issues.  You and your dad should just pay the ticket and more on. Your lives are precious. Each minute even. So fight the state over more important matters and expend your energies in more meaningful ways.

This is sincere.  From the heart.

             Best

             ---SWL


If I had your money I would burn mine. The point of the matter is that The City of Keene is out to screw the working class and the elderly.

And we can't let them take away our rights and run everyone into the ground with there greed.

You don't like it when people crap on you. Well that is why we stick up for our rights.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 17, 2006, 11:46 PM NHFT
can someone post Keene pd number here , maybe we can call them and ask what's going on...maybe they can verify whether there was a complaint from the grange folks and/or signs.  In any case whenever they do something vaguely controversial vis a vis liberty we need to get in the habit of calling them.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 17, 2006, 11:48 PM NHFT
here it is:  bureau of parking enforcement 603.357.9845

questions I have for them...   Did this happen on a weekend?  Were the funeral-goers in some way inconveniencing anyone or was the parking lot basically not in use at the time they parked there?
were there other places these people could have parked or was this their only option?  Did the property owner express a general or specific desire to have people ticketed who park there?   
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 18, 2006, 10:10 AM NHFT
here it is:  bureau of parking enforcement 603.357.9845



Thanks for posting that. But we did go to there office and they said go to court in a very arrogant tone.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Caleb on March 18, 2006, 01:22 PM NHFT
If the ticketing occurred at the Grange parking lot, some (if not most) of those parking spaces are owned by the City of Keene and reserved for officers of the law or the court (since the court is, or was, nearby,).

Now, don't misunderstand me ... I'm NOT saying the ticketing was justified.  Just trying to get into the head of the oppressor and understand what he was thinking.

If you don't pay the ticket, what will happen?  I've never got in any trouble for not paying parking tickets.

Caleb
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 18, 2006, 06:42 PM NHFT
arright.  i called parking enforcement and asked the questions that I've listed above.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: KBCraig on March 18, 2006, 06:57 PM NHFT
arright.  i called parking enforcement and asked the questions that I've listed above.

...and did they give answers?
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 18, 2006, 11:41 PM NHFT
No I just left a voice mail it was after hours.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: tracysaboe on March 19, 2006, 01:09 AM NHFT
I guess you'll need to try again.

See, you guys have lots of stuff to report on right in Keene. :)

Tracy
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dave Ridley on March 20, 2006, 09:23 PM NHFT
I got a call back from Ginger at Keene PD answering some of my questions today.  I told her I was with NHfree.com and would faithfully report what she told me to our website where we are discussing the issue.

She said as she understood it the people ticketed were not parked at the Grange but in city owned spots which were rented by private individuals for their use mon-sat.   She said this ticketing happened on a Saturday I believe.  She also said they would not give a parking ticket to someone parked on private property. 

Whether the city is right or wrong on this I hope it will help that whenever they do something of some slightly controversial nature  they find themselves answering questions from us amateur new media types.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on March 21, 2006, 12:27 PM NHFT
If the ticketing occurred at the Grange parking lot, some (if not most) of those parking spaces are owned by the City of Keene and reserved for officers of the law or the court (since the court is, or was, nearby,).

Now, don't misunderstand me ... I'm NOT saying the ticketing was justified.  Just trying to get into the head of the oppressor and understand what he was thinking.

If you don't pay the ticket, what will happen?  I've never got in any trouble for not paying parking tickets.

Caleb



That was the Gilbo st lot. And on a Saturday It was not the parking lot near the court house.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Dreepa on March 21, 2006, 01:42 PM NHFT
She also said they would not give a parking ticket to someone parked on private property. 
Unless you park on your front lawn. >:D
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Happy Dude on April 24, 2006, 09:52 AM NHFT
The hearing was set for today. And they called this morning and said that they were not going to go through with it.


 ^-^So  We're not going to let it rest though. Because we feel that they'll just screw someone else over in the same position. And the bottom line is that they should not treat people like that.
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Russell Kanning on April 24, 2006, 12:25 PM NHFT
Interesting
Title: Re: Parking Hearing (was Keene's Taj-Mahal)
Post by: Kat Kanning on April 24, 2006, 12:42 PM NHFT
Happy dude is back :)