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New Hampshire Underground => Underground Projects => Topic started by: Cyro on October 21, 2006, 08:06 PM NHFT

Title: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Cyro on October 21, 2006, 08:06 PM NHFT
Has anyone ever consider getting volunteer activists for the Free State Project? I'm not currently in any position to move to the Free State, but if I could get a place to stay I'd be happy to move up for a month or so to participate in activism. So would the FSP be able to sponsor future movers to head to New Hampshire for activism? It might even be a good way to get more cynical libertarians or new minds to the idea to see that the FSP really is doing something.

Most volunteer work programmes want people to pay 'x' amount up front to cover food and lodging anyway so you?re basically 'paying your way' any how, just wondered if something specific could be set up. It would also help in clarifying what activism happens when and such, so that volunteers know what to do.

Just an idea... Thanks.
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Dreepa on October 21, 2006, 10:33 PM NHFT
Quote from: Cyro on October 21, 2006, 08:06 PM NHFT
Has anyone ever consider getting volunteer activists for the Free State Project? I'm not currently in any position to move to the Free State, but if I could get a place to stay I'd be happy to move up for a month or so to participate in activism. So would the FSP be able to sponsor future movers to head to New Hampshire for activism? It might even be a good way to get more cynical libertarians or new minds to the idea to see that the FSP really is doing something.

Most volunteer work programmes want people to pay 'x' amount up front to cover food and lodging anyway so you?re basically 'paying your way' any how, just wondered if something specific could be set up. It would also help in clarifying what activism happens when and such, so that volunteers know what to do.

Just an idea... Thanks.

Welcome Cyro.... this is a pretty good idea.
Maybe it should be done by the NHLA instead of the FSP though.
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: KBCraig on October 22, 2006, 03:12 AM NHFT
Maybe Caleb's commune/temple/cult/fortress/ Ashram (thanks, Lloyd!  ;D) will turn out to be an activist HQ and hostel.

"Free wireless and a cot. Missions assigned. Pay for your own hots, and cold ones."

Sounds like a decent plan for Activism Central. Wish I was in a position to participate.

Kevin
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Kat Kanning on October 22, 2006, 07:34 AM NHFT
Would volunteer activists come if we offered food and lodging, rather than money?
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Cyro on October 22, 2006, 12:20 PM NHFT
Quote from: Kat Kanning on October 22, 2006, 07:34 AM NHFT
Would volunteer activists come if we offered food and lodging, rather than money?

That was the premise. We wouldn't be very good volunteers if we got paid. ;D
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Kat Kanning on October 22, 2006, 01:10 PM NHFT
My roommate is working on buying a big house and making one big room into like a bunkhouse for visiting porcupines and volunteers such as you describe.  We'll have to see if his offer for the place works out.
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 22, 2006, 04:21 PM NHFT
I thought he was going to rent it
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Kat Kanning on October 22, 2006, 06:56 PM NHFT
No
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Lloyd Danforth on October 22, 2006, 08:31 PM NHFT
Much bigger deal, then.
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: maxxoccupancy on October 26, 2006, 09:26 PM NHFT
A few of us in Manchester were talking about making one room available for potential activists who wanted to help out during elections and signature gathering, but didn't have employment, yet.  People could volunteer 20 hours a week, and a freestater would give them a room for a month or two, free of charge.  The notion of supplying both room and board were considered, but some thought that a bit costly.

--Max
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: anthonybpugh on October 27, 2006, 01:35 PM NHFT
I was thinking of renting a big house and then pack in as many roommates as the fire marshal would allow, but a lot of these other ideas sounds good too.  How about someone build a barn and let us all live in there
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: d_goddard on October 27, 2006, 04:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: maxxoccupancy on October 26, 2006, 09:26 PM NHFT
A few of us in Manchester were talking about making one room available for potential activists who wanted to help out during elections and signature gathering, but didn't have employment, yet.  People could volunteer 20 hours a week, and a freestater would give them a room for a month or two, free of charge.
That's an awesome idea.
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Dreepa on October 27, 2006, 04:53 PM NHFT
Quote from: maxxoccupancy on October 26, 2006, 09:26 PM NHFT
A few of us in Manchester were talking about making one room available for potential activists who wanted to help out during elections and signature gathering, but didn't have employment, yet.  People could volunteer 20 hours a week, and a freestater would give them a room for a month or two, free of charge.  The notion of supplying both room and board were considered, but some thought that a bit costly.

--Max
Others not in the house might chip in for gas, elec, and other stuff.
Would you make them sign a contract that they had to volunteer for min of 20hours?
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: anthonybpugh on October 27, 2006, 10:44 PM NHFT
It would be better if you did not have them sign a contract.  There is some marketting principle where you just give something to someone and because they received the gift, the recipient has a psychological feeling of indebtedness.  I would imagine if you had no contract, the person would be more enthusiastic in their volunteer work. 

Also, the entire idea sounds more like a good deed, making it a contract just doesn't seem right. 
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: maxxoccupancy on October 28, 2006, 01:46 AM NHFT
Yeah, we're libertarians here.  Let's not get into all of those rigid rules and crap.

--Max
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Dreepa on October 28, 2006, 06:57 AM NHFT
Quote from: maxxoccupancy on October 28, 2006, 01:46 AM NHFT
Yeah, we're libertarians here. 

I always thought that libertarians LOVED contracts.
Title: Re: Volunteer activists?
Post by: Tom Sawyer on October 28, 2006, 07:30 AM NHFT
Quote from: maxxoccupancy on October 28, 2006, 01:46 AM NHFT
Yeah, we're libertarians here.  Let's not get into all of those rigid rules and crap.

--Max

Karma to you Max... 8)
I like you when you loosen up! ;D