As some of you may know, we are starting a homeschool/continuing ed "school" of sorts in Keene. We will be starting individual classes and offering them mostly once a week in rented classrooms. We have a yahoo mailing list already and have been trying to come up with a name for our venture.
Anyone have any suggestions?
You could somehow name it after Thomas Jefferson, if you're looking for that sort of naming venue.
Or the Keene Center for Life Long Learning . . .
Is it going to be tied into the Liberty Scholarship Fund at all?
No, not tied into the LSF. Eventually when we're more like a private school, people could use scholarships there.
We are planning a fundraiser for the LSF in the spring, if you're interested in helping.
Quote from: JonM on December 21, 2004, 10:02 AM NHFT
You could somehow name it after Thomas Jefferson, if you're looking for that sort of naming venue.
Or the Keene Center for Life Long Learning . . .
I like both of these ideas...we will keep throwing them into a hat and pick sometime soon.
Well, you could start it with the idea that it will branch out into other towns.
The Thomas Jefferson Life Long Learning Center at Keene.
The Keene Jeffersonian Life Long Learning Center.
Etc. Quite a few schools out there already named for Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson Education and Experience Center sounds like a theme park . . .
How about the Life Long Education and Experience Center at Keene?
I really think the idea will branch out all over NH. It will also take on different personalities in each location. :)
We had also been thinking the Ben Franklin name was good too.
I kinda like Free State School.... But I suspect there probably is something better. On the one hand it would attach something very positive to the term "Free State;" on the other hand it would sort of go against the idea of setting the FSP aside and just being good citizens.
Maybe "the Liberty Tree?"
The Liberty Tree.....ooooh I really like it!
Lysander Spooner School
Lysander Spooner University
Spooner U
I like the 'Lysander Spooner School'.? Jane says, "I go to Spooner.? I've been helping my dad can strawberrys the last few days, though.? Next year I'll be learning aviation, economics, and woodlot management there."
'Liberty Tree' is nice, though -- really plays on the image of openness.
A more neutral name like "Monadnock Learning Center" might get interest from a broader cross-section of the population.? I am not sure whether this would be a benefit or a liability....
Something with Monadnock is a little boring. I like Liberty Tree. :)
Well, from the wiki, plus some of what we got from this thread, we have the following name candidates:
Liberty Learning Center
Free State School
Porcupine Pupils
Liberty Tree Learning Center
Porcupine Penitentiary
Liberty Cooperative
Autonomy Academy
Discover Liberty
Stark Center for Learning
Thoreau Education Network (That's like, a double entendre, eh? ;))
Richard Saunders Educational Network (Richard Saunders was Ben Franklin's psuedonym) or just...
Poor Richard's Learning Center
Jefferson Center for Life-Long Learning (JeCeLLL? Where's Hyde? :D)
I tried to use bits and pieces from everywhere, especially the ones that seemed to get some support.
Over the next couple days, I propose we have the "semi-finalists", which we have on a poll on here (and let people know about it), then we take the finalists from that (say the top five vote-getters), and pick a final name from between them at the 1/1 luncheon.
I would REALLLY like to be able to tell the press (and public) about us picking a name and (what was the other thing we were going to do there? Pick a sec?) ASAP after the new year.
Ideas? Suggestions? Comments? Insults? :D
JM
Liberty Learning Center is actually the one I was (wrongly) remembering.
If you go with "Liberty Tree", I'd just call it the "Liberty Tree" and not "Liberty Tree Learning Center".
Just my 2?. Or maybe I am up to 4? now. 8)
JMaynard,
I like the idea of coming up with names then polling on this forum. We just need to get all the people from the yahoo group to join here so they are all a part of it. :)
How about Screw University?
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on December 22, 2004, 03:49 PM NHFT
How about Screw University?
I have to admit that I smiled at that one.
Quote from: BlueLu on December 22, 2004, 01:49 PM NHFT
Liberty Learning Center is actually the one I was (wrongly) remembering.
If you go with "Liberty Tree", I'd just call it the "Liberty Tree" and not "Liberty Tree Learning Center".
Just my 2?.? Or maybe I am up to 4? now.? ?8)
Hmmm... I personally REALLY LIKE Liberty Tree Learning Center. It has the whole "growing" thing going for it...The logo almost designs itself. :D
I'm willling to put LT and LLC on there as seperate choices, if people want.
J
Quote from: katdillon on December 22, 2004, 04:18 PM NHFT
Why?? Do you need lessons in that, Lloyd?
Hell No!
I've forgotten more about that subject then you'll ever................er.......what were we talking about?
Actually, I thought 'Screw U' would be funny.
Lloyd
If you use Stark, isn't it a good idea to use Jonh Stark or Gen. John Stark?
Stark would have to be way down my list of choices.
I'm fond of Stark for personal reasons :) It's a family name.
John Stark Revolutionary Training Center...LOL.
That would make them quake in their boots. :)
Quote from: John on December 23, 2004, 08:30 AM NHFT
If you use Stark,? isn't it a good idea to use Jonh Stark or Gen. John Stark?
Wasn't Stark also a physician?? It could be the "Dr. and Gen. John Stark Center for Learning", just to be super-pompous.
I really like the name Liberty Tree.
Will these classes be free? Have you thought about starting up a local Free Learning Exchange group like this one?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewmarketNHFLEX/
I'll try to promote the idea locally and let you know what happens.
Quote from: LeRuineur6 on January 01, 2005, 09:47 PM NHFT
I really like the name Liberty Tree.
Will these classes be free?? Have you thought about starting up a local Free Learning Exchange group like this one?
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewmarketNHFLEX/
I would rather not see the school limited in that way.? There might be some very worthy instructors who would like to be paid for thier efforts.? But then, maybe it will be up to some others of us to open the for-profit school.....
BTW, there was a great self-referencing school name that included Stark as both the Revolutionary War general and also the usual English meaning of 'stark' which I think someone vanished from the board.
Not concerning the name, but the curriculum.
I would be willing to teach classes on Shakespeare that is not dry and BORING. I have been working with the New England Shakespeare Festival for the last eight years, and we are anything BUT boring. It would be a hands on approach, teaching by doing type class. Lots of fun.
Send me a message if you are interested.
Alan Milner
Quote from: AlanM on January 02, 2005, 12:22 AM NHFT
Not concerning the name, but the curriculum.
I would be willing to teach classes on Shakespeare that is not dry and BORING. I have been working with the New England Shakespeare Festival for the last eight years, and we are anything BUT boring. It would be a hands on approach, teaching by doing type class. Lots of fun.
Send me a message if you are interested.
Alan Milner
Hey, sounds cool! I love Shakespeare. Favorite play of all time, "Much Ado About Nothing"
Jim P.
Reading Shakespeare in High School was O K, but, the real fun was seeing it performed at the, now defunct, I believe, Shakespeare Theater in Stratford, CT.
Shakespeare on The Housatonic!
Quote from: AlanM on January 02, 2005, 12:22 AM NHFT
Not concerning the name, but the curriculum.
I would be willing to teach classes on Shakespeare that is not dry and BORING. I have been working with the New England Shakespeare Festival for the last eight years, and we are anything BUT boring. It would be a hands on approach, teaching by doing type class. Lots of fun.
Send me a message if you are interested.
Alan Milner
Alan, that would be awesome! I'd love to have my daughter attend, and I'd enjoy it too.
BTW, we were talking about running a free series on libertarian type ideas. The rest of the classes would be for-profit, the exact fee determined by the instructor. Each instructor would be responsible for contributing to the cost of the room ($20 or $30, depending on the size) and some money for advertising. All the rest of the class fee would go to the instructor.
So, is there a final concensus on the name of the school?
Liberty Tree Learning Center
Thanks Kat. ;D
Quote from: BlueLu on January 01, 2005, 10:53 PM NHFT
I would rather not see the school limited in that way.? There might be some very worthy instructors who would like to be paid for thier efforts.? But then, maybe it will be up to some others of us to open the for-profit school.....
I don't want to bash anybody's attempt to offer many free classes, on any variety of topics, at the Liberty Tree Learning Center, either.? It is just that I would want instructors to have the flexibility to charge if that is how they wanted to handle it.
Maybe any free-of-charge classes could be cross-advertised with a Free Learning Exchange, as mentioned above, if we continue to have people interested in both outlets.
Well, anyone could set up a class for profit on whatever subject. We just wanted to offer a few free classes to give people some knowledge about libertarian ideas and open up a discussion about them.
Quote from: katdillon on January 02, 2005, 09:04 AM NHFT
Well, anyone could set up a class for profit on whatever subject. We just wanted to offer a few free classes to give people some knowledge about libertarian ideas and open up a discussion about them.
*nods* Good idea.
Jim P.
EXACTLY. Most of the classes would be for profit, with the instructor making a good deal of money for teaching, as long as the room was (or was almost) sold out.
The free classes would just be the propoganda... err... liberty-learning classes. :D
You know, this MAY give us a chance to break the back of government school opposition to the FSP and fiscal resposibility in school budgets.
Here's why.... Government schools suck up a TREMENDOUS amount of money in administrative costs, really bad insurance contracts, and overhead. We don't.
The school administrators encourage their employees (the teachers) to go out and rally against us at election time (the exit polling of the last municipal election showed this - Shelly and I were tied for first place for city council until 3pm? ::)).
Suppose we gave the teachers a REALLY good reason to vote for us, instead of working against us? The reason? Money.
The government schools, after all their overhead, only pay teachers around $12/hr. Our teachers can theoretically make 10x that amount of money.
So, in an engagement with the teachers, we can casually mention "Gee, it's really sad that you guys make so little money. I taught one class last week, and made $250 doing it".?
So then what happens is the teachers get into their circles, and the rumor starts spreading... "Hey! Did you HEAR how much teachers are making at the Liberty Tree Learning Center? Man! How come WE aren't making that much?"
So, an organization paying their employees a pittiance tries to tell their employees to rally against an organization whose employees at the same level 10x as much money. They're not going to think of how they can hurt us, they're going to think of how they can get us to let them teach for us.
Letting the news out to teachers about how much better they could do with us, rather than opposing us, should quickly destroy the incentive for teachers to work against us, while helping them, and ourselves. It's a win-win-win plan. :D
BTW, just so I am NOT misconstrued - I am NOT talking about letting every teacher in government schools to teach for us, but there ARE a few diamonds among the chucks of coal, who COULD be a good resource for us, and just letting the news spread in their circles would provide us a great advance in bringing members of the school district out of the opposition forces.
Ideas? Opinions? Insults?
JM
Heyyy... giving teachers an alternative to working in public schools is a good idea. They can make a fortune working for themselves rather than the government. Even good public school teachers can supplement their income with independent teaching. Then, like Jim said, they will not want to oppose a non-public education.
You could also have classes where you teach teachers to become independent teachers. To do this they'll need to learn how to focus on teaching a few subjects, start and run a business, how to network (with homeschooling groups?), etc., just like any other entrepreneurs must do.
If you can find prior teachers that have made this move to independent teaching before, they would be the best ones to teach the teachers how to become independent teachers instead of being teachers in public schools, forced to teach people who don't want to be taught lame, watered-down interpretations of subjects that they are not even interested in learning.
Quote from: jcpliberty on January 02, 2005, 01:22 AM NHFT
Hey, sounds cool! I love Shakespeare. Favorite play of all time, "Much Ado About Nothing"
Jim P.
Ah Beatrice, you salty tongued wench. We love you. Dogberry for President!!!
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on January 02, 2005, 07:17 AM NHFT
Reading Shakespeare in High School was O K, but, the real fun was seeing it performed at the, now defunct, I believe, Shakespeare Theater in Stratford, CT.
Shakespeare on The Housatonic!
Lloyd,
Shakespeare was never meant to be read. His work was never published in an authorized version during his lifetime.
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I think I hit enter.? oops.? Try again.? I was googling along and typed in unschooling.? (I have just decided that is what we do.? I didn't know there was a name for it.) This website came up.? I am intrigued, is this the group I read about in the paper?? Hmmm I get the general gist of what you are all about but tell me where I can learn more.? The real attention getter for me is I am a unschooling homeschooler in Keene, NH, and I saw the Free State School Project.? I used to belong to a group that had a co op and we had a nursery and preschool for the smaller kids.? I look foward to seeing or reading about this project. Luck to you all.
Quote from: SLounder on August 09, 2005, 09:25 PM NHFT
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Hello, SLounder! Welcome to the Underground. Don't know if we are the group you heard about, because we don't know WHAT group you heard about. ;) Glad to hear you are unschooling! LeRuiner and I hold protests weekly in Exeter trying to encourage folk to get their children out of Government Schools. Education is GOOD, public schools are NOT GOOD. 8)
Welcome SLounder!