I am sick and tired of being here in RI.... It is actually making me nauseous about spending the summer in this state. Excuse me while I vent my frustrations... My boss actually told me today that it is expected of me to come into work 15 minutes early and work. Anyone else think that is wrong?? I thought we had an agreement that we were to exchange my labor for her money.. Her reasoning for it was, every other practice/office does it, it is expected of other offices workers to come in early. There is only one other co-worker who chooses to come in 20 minutes early, and she gets things started, so when I come in, there isnt anything to rush doing, so why come in earlier than I have to, nevermind not getting paid for it....... Totally frustrated. I expressed my problems with her making me work, with out getting paid, but it was like talking to a wall. She continued to read the paper while I made my case for her.
Soooooo........
I wanna move.. I wanna move NOW!!!
I am in a bit of a financial crunch, thanks to my DOG eating 2 lbs of bacon...... (pancreatitis...bad dog, expensive bad dog) SO I am looking for a room to rent for cheep, and willing to do domestic things to help pay my way. I can cook, clean, I can take care of pets and babies/children. I am a x vet tech, and a x nanny. I am a great gardener. and i jello wrestle ;D I will be seeking work in my current field, which is the dental industry... I am looking for a place to stay, then find work in the area.
I really just want out. And, doesnt look like my lovely significant other is getting his act together, in terms of moving... So, fuck it, I am going to move first...
Seriously frustrated............
Trouble in paradise Beth?
For what it's worth...
The only thing stopping you is getting up here...
You're friends here will help you with the rest!
I know how you feel sister. Not there yet myself but I can relate to the frustration.
Quote from: Beth221 on April 17, 2007, 09:26 PM NHFT
I am sick and tired of being here in RI.... It is actually making me nauseous about spending the summer in this state. Excuse me while I vent my frustrations... My boss actually told me today that it is expected of me to come into work 15 minutes early and work. Anyone else think that is wrong?? I thought we had an agreement that we were to exchange my labor for her money.. Her reasoning for it was, every other practice/office does it, it is expected of other offices workers to come in early. There is only one other co-worker who chooses to come in 20 minutes early, and she gets things started, so when I come in, there isnt anything to rush doing, so why come in earlier than I have to, nevermind not getting paid for it....... Totally frustrated. I expressed my problems with her making me work, with out getting paid, but it was like talking to a wall. She continued to read the paper while I made my case for her.
Soooooo........
I wanna move.. I wanna move NOW!!!
I am in a bit of a financial crunch, thanks to my DOG eating 2 lbs of bacon...... (pancreatitis...bad dog, expensive bad dog) SO I am looking for a room to rent for cheep, and willing to do domestic things to help pay my way. I can cook, clean, I can take care of pets and babies/children. I am a x vet tech, and a x nanny. I am a great gardener. and i jello wrestle ;D I will be seeking work in my current field, which is the dental industry... I am looking for a place to stay, then find work in the area.
I really just want out. And, doesnt look like my lovely significant other is getting his act together, in terms of moving... So, fuck it, I am going to move first...
Seriously frustrated............
I could use help with cooking, cleaning, gardening, and looking after pussums but can't offer a place to stay since I just have a dumpy 1 bedroom in the slums of Concord :blush:
There are plenty of crappy jobs available in Manchester. Signs everywhere. Sure the pay would suck but you could have some income which is better than no income. I'm getting ready to get a studio so you may be able to rent the attic from Alec! ;D
I'm not interested in buying or putting my name on any lease or utilities...
But I would be interested in going in together with other porcupines on a big house...
My only requirement is a garage(at least one stall and some area for tools, parts, and supplies), a dry basement for additional storage...and for the location to be in a "decent" neighborhood... Preferably 5 to 15 minutes outside of Manchester...
Let me know what you think?
Oh, and I would strongly prefer no pets in the common areas except for transport in and out of the house...
If I had a place and could afford to feed you Beth, I'd give you a room just cause you're fun to look at ;D
Quote from: Beth221 on April 17, 2007, 09:26 PM NHFT
and i jello wrestle ;D
send a pic & we will talk >:D
Quote from: powerchuter on April 18, 2007, 12:05 AM NHFT
But I would be interested in going in together with other porcupines on a big house...
If I ever make it to NH I would be interested in this as well - especially until I got my business(es) established & bought some land to build on.
Someone could even take it a step further & make it a sort of 1/2 way house where people in the movement can move to & live for a few months until they get their feet on the ground. Maybe even start a fund that would pay for new transplants 1st month of rent.
I dunno.
We already have something of a Porc Manor. I should know; I'm here already! I don't think the homeowner allows dogs, though. :(
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Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 07:06 AM NHFT
If I had a place and could afford to feed you Beth, I'd give you a room just cause you're fun to look at ;D
Lloyd would even offer to massage your broken butt. He's benevolent that way. :angel4:
Quote from: KBCraig on April 18, 2007, 11:21 AM NHFT
Lloyd would even offer to massage your broken butt. He's benevolent that way. >:D
Interested in painting a big one level ranch? If so we may have a deal for you --
Email sent...
Joe
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 07:06 AM NHFT
If I had a place and could afford to feed you Beth, I'd give you a room just cause you're fun to look at ;D
;D ;D ;D
Quote from: Rosie the Riveter on April 18, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
Interested in painting a big one level ranch? If so we may have a deal for you --
I love to PAINT!! I have nick named my house here in RI the Crayola House because I painted every room a different color, like a box of crayons!!! hehe
Yes I am interested!
Quote from: KBCraig on April 18, 2007, 11:21 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 07:06 AM NHFT
If I had a place and could afford to feed you Beth, I'd give you a room just cause you're fun to look at ;D
Lloyd would even offer to massage your broken butt. He's benevolent that way. :angel4:
Willing to do it, if asked, but(t) woudn't suggest it. Probably one of the few men that could be trusted. Might have a heart attack. Me, not Beth.
Quote from: Rosie the Riveter on April 18, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
Interested in painting a big one level ranch? If so we may have a deal for you --
I think you may get more than you bargained for!!
Quote from: error on April 18, 2007, 04:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: Rosie the Riveter on April 18, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
Interested in painting a big one level ranch? If so we may have a deal for you --
I think you may get more than you bargained for!!
getting out of RI is worth it!!
Quote from: Beth221 on April 18, 2007, 04:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: error on April 18, 2007, 04:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: Rosie the Riveter on April 18, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
Interested in painting a big one level ranch? If so we may have a deal for you --
I think you may get more than you bargained for!!
getting out of RI is worth it!!
I would agree. And I've never been there! Come home soon.
What does RI have that the state of Wyoming doesn't have besides a seacoast?
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 04:45 PM NHFT
Willing to do it, if asked, but(t) woudn't suggest it. Probably one of the few men that could be trusted. Might have a heart attack. Me, not Beth.
But Lloyd, at least you would die with a SMILE on your face... ;)
Yes
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 09:22 PM NHFT
Yes
..and at 'our' age, that's WORTH A LOT!!!!!!!!!!!! :crazy3:
Quote from: powerchuter on April 18, 2007, 12:05 AM NHFT
I'm not interested in buying or putting my name on any lease or utilities...
But I would be interested in going in together with other porcupines on a big house...
My only requirement is a garage(at least one stall and some area for tools, parts, and supplies), a dry basement for additional storage...and for the location to be in a "decent" neighborhood... Preferably 5 to 15 minutes outside of Manchester...
Let me know what you think?
Oh, and I would strongly prefer no pets in the common areas except for transport in and out of the house...
So, you want someone else to take all the risks and responsibilities and you would like to establish the ground rules and decide what your "requirements" are? Good luck with that.
Quote from: ny2nh on April 19, 2007, 06:41 AM NHFT
Quote from: powerchuter on April 18, 2007, 12:05 AM NHFT
I'm not interested in buying or putting my name on any lease or utilities...
But I would be interested in going in together with other porcupines on a big house...
My only requirement is a garage(at least one stall and some area for tools, parts, and supplies), a dry basement for additional storage...and for the location to be in a "decent" neighborhood... Preferably 5 to 15 minutes outside of Manchester...
Let me know what you think?
Oh, and I would strongly prefer no pets in the common areas except for transport in and out of the house...
So, you want someone else to take all the risks and responsibilities and you would like to establish the ground rules and decide what your "requirements" are? Good luck with that.
There are plenty of people who don't mind the responsibility of putting bills and rental agreements in their name. I'm sure Powerchuter has much he can and will contribute to any home and it never hurts to put your desires out there to find a good match.
Quote from: Beth221 on April 18, 2007, 04:54 PM NHFT
Quote from: error on April 18, 2007, 04:51 PM NHFT
Quote from: Rosie the Riveter on April 18, 2007, 01:57 PM NHFT
Interested in painting a big one level ranch? If so we may have a deal for you --
I think you may get more than you bargained for!!
getting out of RI is worth it!!
Do you do murals? I got flat panels on the garage doors for just that purpose.
I would say just get up here. If Joe & Denise or Alec can't put you up, I probably could. Someone will.
I do murals - to bad Im in colorado still :'(
Do you do murals? I got flat panels on the garage doors for just that purpose.
I would say just get up here. If Joe & Denise or Alec can't put you up, I probably could. Someone will.
Does finger painting count?? I havent painted a mural since high school....!! But I do dabble in water color and acrylic paints, my mom loves my art, she hangs it all on the refrigerator! :)
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 07:08 PM NHFT
What does RI have that the state of Wyoming doesn't have besides a seacoast?
Well to name a few, very high taxes, strict gun laws, high prices for real estate, and rent, cant smoke a cigg anywhere.. NH looks cheep to buy property compared to the prices here in this "water front" state.
Did you see the post that Pat just placed?
JOB=GIRL FRIDAY.... could work for you!
Quote from: Beth221 on April 19, 2007, 05:07 PM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on April 18, 2007, 07:08 PM NHFT
What does RI have that the state of Wyoming doesn't have besides a seacoast?
Well to name a few, very high taxes, strict gun laws, high prices for real estate, and rent, cant smoke a cigg anywhere.. NH looks cheep to buy property compared to the prices here in this "water front" state.
RI has a town called Wyoming. Wyoming doesn't.
wyoming is one of those small random towns that usually no one knows about!!
I think about 33 states have a town called Wyoming.
Actually, 11 states have towns called Wyoming. Wisconsin has TWO of them. Canada has another, and so does Australia. Two states have counties named Wyoming.
well, isnt this just strange?? Wonder if the water taste the same in all these wyomings??????
Quote from: Beth221 on April 19, 2007, 08:41 PM NHFT
wyoming is one of those small random towns that usually no one knows about!!
Every intersection is a different town in that part of RI. My Great Grandmother was born in Wood River Junction before it became Richmond Switch.
Well, isnt that a little bit of history! I was wondering how you knew about wyoming! that answers that!! Its still a nice some what rural area. I do a lot of fishing in wood river.
I am a genealogist. I learned by researching my own family. My Ennis and Burdick families are thick in that part of RI. Ashaway, Hopkinton, Charlstown, S. Kingston. One of them had a farm near the CT border and when they settled the border he ended up in North Stonington, CT.
Quote from: Beth221 on April 19, 2007, 05:01 PM NHFT
Do you do murals? I got flat panels on the garage doors for just that purpose.
I would say just get up here. If Joe & Denise or Alec can't put you up, I probably could. Someone will.
Does finger painting count?? I havent painted a mural since high school....!! But I do dabble in water color and acrylic paints, my mom loves my art, she hangs it all on the refrigerator! :)
I do. I will try & get some pics up of stuff I have done. As a matter of fact I am negotiating right now to mural a strip club inside & out. & sure, finger painting counts ;)
I would be there in a heart beat - but I have a few loose ends & 1 very large hurdle to jump. I don't really want to get into the hurdle at this time, but I will when the time is right.
Quote from: error on April 18, 2007, 10:19 AM NHFT
We already have something of a Porc Manor. I should know; I'm here already! I don't think the homeowner allows dogs, though. :(
This is a really good idea. The cost of an initial rent (as much as $2500) will be a persistent barrier for young movers. Finding a decent room is not easy. It seems that small Manors would provide an environment conducive of activism. I have a feeling a lot of people could use this service, myself included, so let's begin (in a new thread).
James
Quote from: b1ueemu on April 26, 2007, 03:41 PM NHFT
myself included, so let's begin:
Are there any Porcupines out there looking for roommates?
You might want to make a new thread as people might miss it.
I think that there are at least 2-3 other people looking for roommates.
i am just looking for a little chunk of land, where I can pitch a tent!
I think a tent will fit in the pint-sized back yard! :)
Some of the smaller campgrounds that are not near tourist stuff have good weekly and season rates. You could rent a spot, pitch your tent and stay there while you're looking for the right working and living situation.
You can live in my basement!
Quote from: aworldnervelink on April 26, 2007, 07:26 PM NHFT
You can live in my basement!
Skip the campground!! Take Kevin's basement!! It's really fun there.....Hell, maybe I should move in his basement too ;D Can I have a garage spot?
Look...
How many people have to post that they are interested in different living arrangements than what they have currently before we get together and find a place!?!
I'm near Kevin's place...and I'd like to stay in this general area although I am not opposed to most anyplace near Manchester and/or Concord...
The sooner we get this done...the better in my honest, humble opinion...
Somebody has to come forward who's got the seed money (or credit) to put something together.
And I refuse to buy a house with the current market conditions, even if I had the money, which I don't. :(
Quote from: aworldnervelink on April 26, 2007, 07:26 PM NHFT
You can live in my basement!
I saw a movie about that once.
"It puts the lotion on its back or it gets the hose." :o :o :o
Quote from: Dreepa on April 27, 2007, 08:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: aworldnervelink on April 26, 2007, 07:26 PM NHFT
You can live in my basement!
I saw a movie about that once.
"It puts the lotion on its back or it gets the hose." :o :o :o
I dont think kevin has a hidden well in his basement....right??
Kev, you are not buffalo bill, right?
creepy! I hate that movie! it makes me wet the bed!
i am still interested in some sort of co-op. depending on when I make it, how much money I have left, & market conditions at that time I could be willing to do 1 of or a combination of the following -
purchase land & sub divide it - others can have the subdivisions if everyone involved helps build everyone elses home - obvioulsy some skill in building will be required. hopefully we could all get a mortgage free home w/a decent sized lot.
this could lead to a home building company in which we could all be partners.
purchase land & make a very inexpensive townhome community - I already have plans drawn up & depending on skills people have can be made for as low as $20 sq/ft w/out appliances.
move my business - hire only freestaters & pay how we like to get paid.
build on acerage & trade room/board/small wage for tending/working the land - hopefully for a profit
buy a large, open ocean boat - help me convert it in your spare time & live aboard for free, perhaps even after/if we set sail.
i am good at creating ideas but not implementing them - if any of you are good at that the possibilities are endless
i am horibble at sales - i have a couple of projects that would probably be very profitable if the right people could sell & market them.
for anyone interested we can talk more about details when i get back.
My first thought is action is better than words. Thinking is great but is of little value if some action doesn't follow. NH is filling up with people who "didn't do it right". We haven't created yet what most of us want. But we keep plugging away because we are the ones who do and not just talk.
Cathleen
i agree - that is why i am so supportive of the FSP & the people on this site. there is actually people doing rather than talking.
if your statements were directed at me in a negative way then you should research me a little more. i have already offered to print up to 100 shirts a month at my cost + shipping to NH as long as they are given out or if sold the money goes to fund the movement in another area.
that offer is temporarily off the shelf by the way due to my incarceration - but will be open again when i get out.
& who says you need me to do any of the above - those are all ideas anyone there can more or less do right now... granted I already have a mobile business & floorplans for my townhouse idea... but thats not really the point.
if your statements were not directed at me or were & were meant to be postitive I appologies in advance for any perceived negativity or defensive posture on my part.
No, I don't know you. I'm not judging. We get nifty neato ideas listed all the time. And they ARE good ones. Not new, but good. And that is because if you have made it this far then our minds work alike. It IS fun to imagine the possibilities. Our numbers grow fast and we aren't able to bring everyone up to speed on what is already occurring, what is being worked on, and what snags have been hit. It is a good problem to have.
Cathleen
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Quote from: SpeedPhreak on April 27, 2007, 10:22 AM NHFT
purchase land & sub divide it - others can have the subdivisions if everyone involved helps build everyone elses home - obvioulsy some skill in building will be required. hopefully we could all get a mortgage free home w/a decent sized lot.
this could lead to a home building company in which we could all be partners.
build on acerage & trade room/board/small wage for tending/working the land - hopefully for a profit
i am horibble at sales - i have a couple of projects that would probably be very profitable if the right people could sell & market them.
I'm very willing to contribute in designing and building homes. I have novice skills in laying copper and PVC, doing framing and sheet rock, mudding, painting, and tile. In terms of working the land, many decent pieces of land exist which can be sustainably harvested for wood, providing building materials, heat, and income. There are, of course, many other ways to work the land. In terms of sales, it would be nice to know what you have available for opportunities. I'm currently working on a website for us to make public the resources we have, so as to allow perusal and more efficient usage, but in the interim, you could post them here!
In response to whether SpeedPhreak is a mover and a shaker, or just a talker, I can say that he provided me information which very well could allow me to compete against him, for which I'm greatly appreciative! :)
Quote from: b1ueemu on April 27, 2007, 12:50 PM NHFTI'm very willing to contribute in designing and building homes. I have novice skills in laying copper and PVC, doing framing and sheet rock, mudding, painting, and tile.
Are you here in the Free State, yet?
Joe
at this point, I will live in someones closet! >:D
Quote from: Beth221 on April 27, 2007, 08:47 PM NHFT
at this point, I will live in someones closet! >:D
There's a room open downstairs now. It's bigger than a closet and it even has a bed!
Quote from: MaineShark on April 27, 2007, 01:02 PM NHFT
Are you here in the Free State, yet?
I'm currently in Maine, sending off resumes to places in New Hampshire currently, and hoping to move within weeks.
Sent you a PM with my specific skills, incase there is anything I can help with.
Quote from: error on April 27, 2007, 09:13 PM NHFT
There's a room open downstairs now. It's bigger than a closet and it even has a bed!
Would you mind posting the specifics on this room, if it's publicly available? You can use my form above, if you like.
Quote from: Beth221 on April 27, 2007, 08:47 PM NHFT
at this point, I will live in someones closet! >:D
You're not here YET!?!
Arrghhh
Quote from: Beth221 on April 27, 2007, 08:47 PM NHFT
at this point, I will live in someones closet! >:D
You missed a good party at Kevin's last night...
We couldn't make it, threw our own cookout in RI. Got everyone (family/friends) up to speed on our plans not to be in RI an more. I don't know how much longer I can hold out _not_ accepting a tech job in the Commonwealth (sic).
why, was someone in a closet? Kev has the best parties!!! he rocks! They *almost* top my parties!
UPDATE::
I GOT FIRED TODAY!!! (and i am happy! go figure!)
NH HERE I COME!!! ;D ;D ;D
Dont know when I will make the move, But, it will be soon!! I just need to tie up a few last minute loose ends here. One big loose end: DAN!!!
Dan- get fired too! Dont make me move without you!! ;)
(I got fired for disrespecting my employer because I didnt come into work "on time" I am on the clock at 8am, and showed up at 7:55 or so..(and, there was still one co-worker who wasnt even in yet, I dont suppose she got fired, she is the boss's do no wrong daughter!) but, thats the to the point story of my firing.. Plus in her mind, she thinks i work part time, because of my TDI when i broke my butt, Legally, she can not count that against me! So, unemployment, here i come! Its not like i worked for her for 6 months, I was a good employee for 4 years, and now she has a problem with what time I come in..)
So, if someone wakes up and see's a swiss gear tent in their yard, Its me, Dont shoot! :tent:
Come home!!
i am getting there!!
Excellent.
Joe
thanks, I think so too!
I never thought I would congratulate someone for getting fired, but -- Congratulations!! You'll love living in NH.
I'm so proud. :)
I've got no problem with one getting their state unemployment money BACK.
In other news, I got a nibble on my resume, but from another DoD contractor in MA.
thanks! I know, it feels strange, for being happy, that I was fired. No one wants to be fired.. Now when I seek another job, Its going to be interesting explaining that I was fired. But, time is on my side, its not like i was just hired, I was employed for about 4 years. I think that stands for its self. But, I promise you all, I will be in NH soon!!
My job was really holding me back, I felt that if I told her that I was going to be moving to NH, she would have fired me on the spot..so i was holding back until the last possible moment, with giving her a respectable amount of time.
But its over, and I am happy!
Gosh, are there states that allow unemployment compensation when you are fired? I've never heard of that.
Cathleen
Sometimes you have t go to a hearing. Most of the time the employer doesn't show up and you win.
RI has the most liberal employee protection laws, maybe second in some areas only to California.
Yes California has easy access to unemployment benefits. You can even get them if you quit under certain circumstances. From what I know this is something that both the employeer and employee pay into. Unlike disability the state doesn't pay much of the unemployment. You do have to have worked for at least one year and they take the highest earnings in a quarter from that year to base the amount you will get. No matter what your income the highest amount one can receive is $450 per week.
Right. Same here. TDI is withheld by the employer for the state.
This the state with only two funds: General, and Rainy Day, in case anyone notices the General fund is gone.
Beth, you can put your tent up in my backyard for as long as you like.
On odd days, you can use the shower.
Quote from: aworldnervelink on May 23, 2007, 06:39 PM NHFTBeth, you can put your tent up in my backyard for as long as you like.
On odd days, you can use the shower.
What days aren't odd, when you have a pyromaniac camping in a tent in your back yard? :o ;D
Joe
Quote from: aworldnervelink on May 23, 2007, 06:39 PM NHFT
Beth, you can put your tent up in my backyard for as long as you like.
On odd days, you can use the shower.
I thought you said she could live in the basement!! -- Now she's got to camp! -- can she at least put the tent up in the basement?
Quote from: Rosie the Riveter on May 23, 2007, 09:55 PM NHFT
Quote from: aworldnervelink on May 23, 2007, 06:39 PM NHFT
Beth, you can put your tent up in my backyard for as long as you like.
On odd days, you can use the shower.
I thought you said she could live in the basement!! -- Now she's got to camp! -- can she at least put the tent up in the basement?
I know!!
Hhahahaaaa!!!! No one wants a pyro IN their house!! :campfire:
Thanks Kev for the invite!
Please! No one shoot, if I squat on their property!!
NH, HERE I COME!!!
Oh, Kev, I might just actually put a tent up in your yard the night of the debate on June 5th! Just a warning!
Quote from: Beth221 on May 23, 2007, 09:27 AM NHFT
UPDATE::
I GOT FIRED TODAY!!! (and i am happy! go figure!)
I used to beg the folks where I worked to fire me. With very little success--the more I begged, the less inclined they were to do so...
It started when I was in college, going to school full time during the day, and working full time at night. I was working as a janitor for the university. The supervisor for the night shift was a real dickhead, and was always threatening to fire folks. He basically was just on this little power-trip, and would spend a lot of time complaining that he didn't have enough power, and talk about all how everything would be better when he got more power. What a dick.
Anyway, the first time he made the threat to fire me, I stopped what I was doing and looked him straight in the eye. I said "Freddy, do me a favor. Fire me. Really, I want you to do it. You see, I took this job because I wanted to pay for college. If I'm fired, I can't go to college right now. So that means that I'll have to take the job offer I have from Dyncorps, making $70K a year, tax free, with benefits you would not believe. So please, do me a favor and fire me, so I can go where I'll make three times what you do."
Not only did the threats stop, but over the next couple of years I was promoted, first to supervisor, then to Office Manager. The whole time, I'd buck the system, and when they'd tell me to do something that violated my principles, or that was just too damn stupid, I'd refuse. And say, "If you'd like my resignation, you can have it. No hard feelings." And they'd just look scared, and back down. The first time I actually quit, in Feb. 2004, in order to move to NH, the company who ran the operation called me up and begged me to accept a job as assistant director of their operation in Tuskegee, AL. I decided to accept the offer, but told them I would give them only 2 years (they wanted 3), at which time I would be moving to NH.
After moving to Tuskegee, the first time anyone gave me any crap about doing things the way I knew they should be done, I wrote up a resignation letter without a date, and signed it. I told them, "Look. whenever you're ready to get rid of me, just fill in the date, and let me know. I'll leave and won't look back, no hard feelings." And as the 2 years went by, I would frequently suggest that they accept my resignation early. I'd say, "Look, I promised I'd give you 2 years. And I'll stick by that, as long as you don't piss me off too bad. But you have my letter, all you have to do is write in the date." They never did.
The point of this long story (I assure you, there is one), is that when you work for people who are incompetent, or on power-trips, or are just generally assholes, the worst thing you can do is allow them the initiative. If you let them think you're afraid of being fired, that's the threat they'll hold over you, and they'll be willing to do it, because they are more concerned with the power-trip than with having your services. But if you turn it around on them, they actually become afraid of firing you--and afraid that you'll just up and quit on them. Of course, to pull this off, you have to legitimately have no fear of being fired. Which, if you have confidence in your ability to survive, isn't a problem.
And time is too valuable to work for assholes. It's very liberating to not worry about keeping your job, and even more so, to put low-grade assholes in fear of losing you. Some folks operate on such a low level of brain function that they smell fear, and enjoy it, and smell confidence, and fear it. Make sure they smell confidence, and you set the rules of the battle.
That's the best thing I've read all day.
Bravo, Well spoken!! It was a relief to me, to be fired, I got sick and tired of the threats. In my situation, my boss wanted to push me until I quit, so I coulndt collect unemployment, which she has to pay for now...!!!
:)
at first, i was like "holy crap, I do not have a job..I got FIRED" and now, i am at peace with it, and life is GOOD!
I did something similar, and with similar results:
I told my ex-military supervisor straight up that they aren't worth my time five days per week. I will no longer work Fridays.
The result? I only work 3/5ths of the month, and have 2/5ths for me and Beth time. It's amazingly different having the feeling that you no longer live to work. But I had to have my house in order: had to volunteer a 20% pay cut before telling them.
I am treated much differently at work now. Other's at work ask me how I did it, how I got three day weekends. I tell them I asked. It always just gets blinking for a second or two in response.
Moving to NH, I'll likely lose the three day weekend thing. I could try to barter for it, but it's risky:
Hire me and I'll give you 5days/wk work for 80% of the salary.
Looking at the NHLA calendar, it seems Friday would be the worst day to have free to hang around the state house. :(
See, that's why I don't have employees. I subcontract work.
If I need the ductwork in someone's basement insulated because we are going to be adding central air (uninsulated ductwork = condensation), I call up a buddy who is good at that (I hate insulating ductwork) and pay him a few hundred bucks to do the job. As long as he is done before the deadline, I don't care how long he takes. He can use every minute of time available, or he can finish in a few hours. He gets paid for doing a specific task, and doing so at a particular quality level... the amount of time he spends, so long as it doesn't exceed the deadline, is not important to me.
Some people need to take a long time and be very methodical in order to produce quality work. Others would get bored and start making mistakes if they don't work quickly. How somone arrives at the finished product is their business.
Joe
Quote from: MaineShark on May 26, 2007, 04:22 PM NHFT
Some people need to take a long time and be very methodical in order to produce quality work. Others would get bored and start making mistakes if they don't work quickly. How somone arrives at the finished product is their business.
Joe
Good attitude. I wish that had been the philosophy at my old job... :(
Quote from: Beth221 on April 17, 2007, 09:26 PM NHFT
My boss actually told me today that it is expected of me to come into work 15 minutes early and work. Anyone else think that is wrong??
15 min prior is something they teach in the military. Im guessing your boss picked it up and thought 'if i do it, and it worked for me, then it has to be good for everyone'
In the military, if you dont show up 15 mins prior, you are acctually considered late !? I still dont understand it,
Whatever in the military you are a tool a property. Why anyone would want to subject themself to that is byond my understanding.
It used to be during the time of the revolution that the troopers was treated as people the military leader was elected by the troopers themself "All men are equal" and democratic principles set in action.
I work for a huge contracting company. The little office/subpart of the company I work for does ocean mapping for NOAA. The majority of the company does spook works for the DoD. I don't take those jobs.
OK that said. I find it illuminating that the company squeezes every penny out of every contract, and every minute out of every employee. Makes business sense, but the employees life would be better if we all dealt with the company as contractors.
Or in not so many words: Joe, I completely agree. Coming to the realization that on paper employees are factually treated as sole proprietor contractors, but with an unspoken contract that no business would accept, was a revelation to me. That unspoken contract being that you are expected to work until we say your finished, often free on overtime, until we feel like firing you, or you quit for a better offer. After that I started negotiating with them instead of just waiting for raises. I also often walk out at will when on overtime. I will not inconvenience my life for you unpaid.
Part of the revelation was uncovered when I heard a Cato podcast on health care. It pointed out that for most all american families, fear of losing healthcare benefits is the number one reason stated for employees keeping jobs they hate, that are ruining their health and families from stress. Why don't you lose home insurance or car insurance when you quit? Why is it you lose health insurance? Their answer was that health insurance for full time employees was mandated sometime around the New Deal. It's a market distortion caused by the government, what a surprise. Now it's abused to retain employees.
Beth and I are meeting with a Home Savings Account provider Tuesday. We're looking to get out of that manacle (plus Beth's not working... and of course she fears losing healthcare MORE than the paycheck. )
I think Daisy is the one who needs health insurance...
HAHAHAAA.............. Yes, i often think about insurance for the DOG..
But, we all remember the stupid things I do, like Breaking my ASS?!? Without insurance that would have been a 5K bum break.
I am just more careful with Daisy, NO snacks, or bacon....
(3K in vet bills from an over dose of raw bacon=pancreatitis...)