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 81 
 on: February 13, 2019, 07:40 AM NHFT 
Started by Free libertarian - Last post by Free libertarian
Bob's memorial service at Liberty Forum was a little unstructured, beyond a reading from Seth Hipple canonizing Bob.   That's not a negative comment on my part, I appreciate that we had a room to gather in, it was good to see some people I hadn't seen for awhile, etc. 

Bob never professed to be religious, so it was sort of like people were uncertain of what to do or what the agenda was. "That's why we need government" (Free libertarian ducks his head to avoid thrown objects) 

 82 
 on: February 13, 2019, 07:29 AM NHFT 
Started by Dave Ridley - Last post by Free libertarian

Thanks for posting this Dave.   Sounds like a solution in search of a problem.


I guess the school districts only have a use for guns, when it comes time to collect "their" funding from the tax serfs.

 83 
 on: February 12, 2019, 02:34 PM NHFT 
Started by Dave Ridley - Last post by WithoutAPaddle
Washington Post, today:

Four years in a row, police nationwide fatally shoot nearly 1,000 people


By John Sullivan , Liz Weber , Julie Tate and Jennifer Jenkins
February 12 at 11:26 AM

Fatal shootings by police are the rare outcomes of the millions of encounters between police officers and the public. Despite the unpredictable events that lead to the shootings, in each of the past four years police nationwide have shot and killed almost the same number of people — nearly 1,000.

Last year police shot and killed 998 people, 11 more than the 987 they fatally shot in 2017. In 2016, police killed 963 people, and 995 in 2015.

Years of controversial police shootings, protests, heightened public awareness, local police reforms and increased officer training have had little effect on the annual total. Everyone agrees — criminal justice researchers, academics and statisticians — that all of the attention has not been enough to move the number.

Mathematicians, however, say that probability theory may offer one explanation. The theory holds that the quantity of rare events in huge populations tends to remain stable absent major societal changes, such as a fundamental shift in police culture or extreme restrictions on gun ownership, which are unlikely.

“Just as vast numbers of randomly moving molecules, when put together, produce completely predictable behavior in a gas, so do vast numbers of human possibilities, each totally unpredictable in itself, when aggregated, produce an amazing predictability,” said Sir David Spiegelhalter, a professor and statistician at the University of Cambridge who studies risk and uncertainty.

The Washington Post began tracking the shootings after Michael Brown, an unarmed black man, was killed in 2014 by police in Ferguson, Mo. A Post investigation found that the FBI’s tracking system undercounted fatal police shootings by about half, because of the fact that reporting by police departments is voluntary and many departments fail to do so. The ongoing Post project relies on news accounts, social media postings and police reports.

In the wake of the findings by The Post and similar reporting by the Guardian, the FBI in 2015 committed to improving its tracking and last month launched a system to track all police use-of-force incidents, including fatal shootings. The new system, however, is still voluntary.

The Post’s reporting shows that both the annual number and circumstances of fatal shootings and the overall demographics of the victims have remained constant over the past four years.

The dead: 45 percent white men; 23 percent black men; and 16 percent Hispanic men. Women have accounted for about 5 percent of those killed, and people in mental distress about 25 percent of all shootings.

About 54 percent of those killed have been armed with guns and 4 percent unarmed.

“We’ve looked at this data in so many ways, including whether race, geography, violent crime, gun ownership or police training can explain it, but none of those factors alone can explain how consistent this number appears to be,” said Geoffrey Alpert, a criminologist at the University of South Carolina who has studied police shootings for more than three decades.

Mathematicians say that the fact that the number of shootings is stable even though each one is a complex, isolated event can be explained through a fundamental principal of statistics coming out of probability theory. This was used notably to examine the accuracy of German bombings of London during World War II, according to Spiegelhalter.


More:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/four-years-in-a-row-police-nationwide-fatally-shoot-nearly-1000-people/2019/02/07/0cb3b098-020f-11e9-9122-82e98f91ee6f_story.html?utm_term=.d05bfee3eb3e

I happen to think this explanation is bullshit, because shootings are deliberate acts, not random ones, and so if you tell someone to not shoot under certain foreseeable circumstances, then if that instruction is obeyed, the number of shootings has to go down

 84 
 on: February 12, 2019, 04:48 AM NHFT 
Started by Dave Ridley - Last post by Dave Ridley
"we investigated ourselves and found we did nothing wrong"

 85 
 on: February 12, 2019, 04:08 AM NHFT 
Started by Dave Ridley - Last post by Dave Ridley
Between now and late Feb. 2019 you can take action to stop this bill which would endanger children, details on some of your options are below.
 
New Hampshire has no law forbidding non-pupils from carrying firearms on school grounds.   Perhaps in part because of this, there has not yet been a major school shooting in New Hampshire.  I can't even name a minor one.

A new bill aims to change the legal framework somewhat, though I'm not sure it would create a situation where guns could become outright illegal on school grounds. As the summary from Legislative Services puts it:

"This bill allows a school district, school administrative unit, or chartered public school to adopt and enforce a policy regulating firearms, firearms components, ammunition, firearms supplies, or knives within its jurisdiction."

Bill text: https://legiscan.com/NH/text/HB101/id/1833256

One worrisome question would be this: Just how big *is* a school district's "juristiction?" Could schools create a situation where they are forbidding guns in a wider area than expected?  And what exactly would "enforce' mean? 

According to the link above, the public hearing is slated for 02/13/2019 09:00 am
After that it is still possible to weigh in before the vote occurrs (probably around late Feb.) This link lets you email the committee members: http://www.gencourtmobile.com/2019/hb101

 86 
 on: February 11, 2019, 08:06 PM NHFT 
Started by Free libertarian - Last post by Jim Johnson
nope

 87 
 on: February 11, 2019, 08:25 AM NHFT 
Started by Dave Ridley - Last post by Free libertarian
  I skimmed the text of the bill and found it lacking necessary free market feedback mechanisms.   

 As long as the "internal investigation" remains the standard, I don't think cops are incentivized to alter their behavior.   
 Left me feeling  unfulfilled with thin blue line balls. (that's a blue balls reference snark...in case anybody was wondering)

 88 
 on: February 11, 2019, 08:16 AM NHFT 
Started by Free libertarian - Last post by Tom Sawyer
Just wondering about the memorial service at Liberty Forum,perhaps people are talking about it of Fedbook.

 89 
 on: February 10, 2019, 10:41 AM NHFT 
Started by Free libertarian - Last post by Free libertarian
thank you

 You're welcome.

 90 
 on: February 10, 2019, 12:11 AM NHFT 
Started by Free libertarian - Last post by Russell Kanning
thank you

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