Who is to Blame

[Pat K]

So who is to blame for

1) The Murphy's um dustup? Hmmmm is it Keith Is it Dave is it
     Russell (yeah he had nothing to do with it but so what  )
   
     The answer is none of the above. The blame falls on government
      in this case some scumbag who threatened Keith over a perfectly legal
      issue. Blame him and anybody else in Gov who wades in on this
       because they don't like Guns, Free stater's, or nice hot chicken
      wings.

  2) The ED Brown thing. Well while alot could be said about the parties
       involved and their handling of it from the peoples side. The blame falls
      on the government for their immoral practice of taking the earned by
       force. Then having to arrogance to not even show the law, but just say
      Pay, we say so or we bring violence to you.

  3) The recent Fed game of 2000 questions. Is the blame on all the people
      who were questioned? Nope 99 percent of the people questioned and
      Harassed never said anything that could be termed violent, never mind
       illegal. The 1 percent of people who said things about force never
       said they were going to do anything offensively just in defense of them
      selves and others. While they may have been guilty of hyperbole
       they have not done any thing illegal either. If they had there would not
       need to be a fishing expedition to try to find something to arrest them
       for. Nope again the blame falls to government, particularly the the
      unprofessional ones in this case who are using intimidation tactics
       against mothers and children shame on you!

   4)The recent cluster F*#k of Liberty folk losing our heads, attacking
      each other and blaming each other.

      While it was precipitated by government action, the blame falls on
       ourselves.

       If we want Liberty in our lifetimes, really want it=LIBERTY= not

        not 3 or 4 less laws or 5 or 5000 . Not  just the election of
       people on "our side" not just less car inspections or home inspections
       or the amount of paper work you have to do to be permitted to go
       about your life.

        But the unquestioned liberty to be a free person, to go about your
        life unmolested by force unless you a physically harming someone,
        Then this small amount of pressure is just the beginning of what expect.

        This time it is Keith, next time it could be me or you, you need to
         think hard if this is what you want. Their is absolutely nothing to
        stop these government people from showing up at my or your, job
        house, neighbors house and asking questions or causing embarrassment
        or suspicion, or loss of job, for any  of us. If you own a store, bar, deli
         or tinfoil hat shop, there is always some rule or reg. to be used to
        pressure you. These are only the obvious legal ways. The government
        has been know to use much more worse ones.


        If you don't want this kind of attention I cant blame you.
        If you think if you won't get this kind of pressure if you
        just work within what the government considers " the system"
        your wrong, you will just be a little farther down their list.
       If you start to effect real change, they will be on you like
       the pack of jackals they are.

       Almost every one here, knows that things are getting worse
       with each passing month. I have heard many of us refer to
       to the people who are causing it as immoral, illegal, dangerous
       violent,  and even evil.

        Well I think many of them are. Now if you agree with that,
         stop and think about what those words really mean.

         Scary huh? You bet, do you think they are going away easily?
         Do you ?
     
         Again if you don't want this kind of attention, if you don't want
         think about how bad they are, I don't blame you.

         If you do want LIBERTY  then let these episodes be a wake up.
         We have to stand together, this is going to take everyones effort.

         The political, the civil disobedient, The straight ,the gay the
          tee- totalers, the pot smokers, the drinkers,the butcher, baker and
           tin foil hat maker.

         We cant start blaming each other pointing fingers and infighting
          all the time.

         If we run around like a bunch of Nancy's* every time the Government
          doesn't like something we do and puts on some pressure, we have
         lost.

           So now what? Support Kieth for one in what ever way you can.
             Support each other even if their idea's aren't your cup of tee.

           Or a least, lets not bash each other .
         
           Sorry this has been so long and rambling, I am sure someone could
           have written it better, but this was one time I could not wait.

           I like and respect all of you. 
                               Pat K


* Nancy= Please no one get all PC on me for this term.
I don't use it in any way against any ones sexuality or
gender. It is just  to good a term of description for me to give
up.

If you are offended, I wont  duplicate Doug Stanhopes offer
of oral sex, to apologize for the  offense. But I will give you a hug
and a beer.
     



           



     

[FTL_Ian]

Agreed.  Anyone that has moved here expecting a cakewalk should know very well by now that these government thugs are not going to go quietly into the night.

[J’raxis 270145]

[David]

I've long wondered when the actual resistance would come.  We had early on victories, which is great for morale, considering there are what 4-500 early movers plus natives. 
But things are the way they are because people benefit from them being that way.  When someone challenges someone elses benefits, entitlements, preferences, and their living, expect opposition to develop. 
I was shocked by the number of people blaming Dave R for a video that a week ago was being praised. 
Many on this board consider gov't to be vindictive, dangerous, and even evil.  The gov't has earned those descriptions because of what they do to people.  That is where the blame should be. 
Everyone who wants liberty in your lifetime needs to understand the threats that may be possible to you personally.  It is not Dave's video that threatens Murphy's, but the damn licensing boards reaction to the video.  Keith's only mistake was not understanding the threats that are possible to his business.  That is a common, and risky mistake to make. 

[mvpel]

If you start to effect real change, they will be on you like the pack of jackals they are.

Damn right.  They didn't get to have the power over the lives and businesses of ordinary people by playing nice and fair.  They know how to politically brawl - brass-knuckle, broken-bottle, pool-cue-swinging, no-holds barred all-out political warfare.

Ever heard of the term "the politics of personal destruction?"  These people invented it.

...but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."

[Fluff and Stuff]

Patirk, the word is Keith

[Pat K]

Patirk, the word is Keith

My humble apologies. I fixed it, Keithy Kevin.

[srqrebel]

Pat, that is very well written and timely -- thank you!!!! 

It is imperative that we all stand together in our mutual quest for freedom, and all the more so when the going gets tough.

[Dreepa]

I think I am going to be offended just so that I can get a beer.

[Pat K]

I think I am going to be offended just so that I can get a beer.

Theres always a beer in my cooler for you.

[dan_sayers]

Thanks for this, Pat. As of late, I too had noticed there was a lot of people allowing their vision to be clouded and forgetting who the enemy really was. When the bad guys act, the good guys should grow stronger, not dissipate.

[Rosie the Riveter]

Wait, you're messing up my world. I thought it was always Russell's fault.. ..and now I find out it's been the bureaucrats fault all along.  I knew it!! I just knew it wasn't Russell all this time..... Russell, be glad you're off the hook this time, but don't worry everyone will forget about the bureaucrats again soon and you'll be back in the hot seat. 

I'm glad everyone can get along even in the stressful times  Woops, of course, I mean

[EJinCT]

I'm glad everyone can get along even in the stressful times  Woops, of course, I mean

That remains to be seen.   

[firecracker joe]

thank you pat k i think you hit the nail right on the head the govt. would like nothing better than to see the free staters at each others throats and to go back to where they came from. \
speaking as a native i say welcome and don't you dare go back! the party is just starting

[grasshopper]

  Ya, I was offended also, free beer???
  If I was really =6 offended, will call me a cab?
   That was well said.  I for one have decided to decloak and be seen.  If all who agree with freedom decloaked and stood, the JBTs would either call for a tank with a flame thrower and attack a Church or think twice about stomping on our rites.
   I can show you how the feds use "forums" to "accumulate evidence" and how we can fuck them up by making them pull the trigger "too fast", though this was not my intention, it is also nice to know that all the feds do not go along with the NWO.
   If you are interested, let me know, or I'll just bring the copy of the federal lawsuit I use as a model to explain their evil.  I should be able to find it and it is posted on my friends web sight that was assaulted by the international alphabet cops.
   I never underestimate the quest for power some of those assclowns have, we can use this against them.  When the braking of the law is blatant on their side and the "writing of bogus laws" is obvious by the thugs, the Congress does not like it.  Laws are made by Congress not thugs.
   It is funny though if you think about it.  The alphabet cops were started for prohibition, most of them are believers in their cause, this makes most of them dangerous as the zealots most of them are.  The true believers need to be taught the law and have consequences for braking the law.  I just would like to know how to do this when the ass clowns are not held responsible for braking the law and excuses are made almost every time they do so.
  I guess we need to become zealots for freedom, though I do like my nice comfortable life under their boots most of the time, my velvet handcuffs weigh lightly on my wrists.