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California fires a terror attack?

Started by Raineyrocks, October 24, 2007, 10:22 AM NHFT

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Raineyrocks

Here's the link: http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/10/22/california-fire-battallion-chief-whoever-did-this-knew-what-they-were-doing/


California Fire Battalion Chief - Whoever Did This Knew What They Were Doing

October 22, 2007

Fire officials are now stating that the Orange County Santiago fire was purposely set and there is speculation that other fires may have also been deliberate. See Interactive Map

Fire officials found three separate "points of origin," all near the intersection of Silverado Canyon Road and Santiago Canyon Road. Two were on one side of the road, and the third was on the other. "Whoever did this knew what they were doing," said Kris Concepcion, a fire authority battalion chief. Also, the fire traveled 3 miles in its first 20 minutes when it was ignited about 6 p.m. Sunday, he said.

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We are NOT implying that the California fires are an act of terrorism however; the threat of pyro-terrorist attacks pose a significant risk to the U.S. and the fires in California and in Greece earlier this year should be a wake-up call.

In 2003 an FBI memo alerted law enforcement agencies that an al-Qaeda terrorist being held in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.

It was reported that the detainee, who was not identified, said the plan involved three or four people setting wildfires using timed devices in Colorado, Montana, Utah and Wyoming that would detonate in forests and grasslands after the operatives had left the country.

"The detainee believed that significant damage to the U.S. economy would result and once it was realized that the fires were terrorist acts, U.S. citizens would put pressure on the U.S. government to change its policies," the memo said.

How Can So Many Fires Be By Natural Causes ?

A Local News Radio talk show host in San Diego asked, "how can so many fires, in so many places, in such a short period of time, all be caused by natural causes".

From USA Today in July of 2003

al-Qaeda Detainee Spoke of Fire Plot

The FBI alerted law enforcement agencies last month that an al-Qaeda terrorist now in detention had talked of masterminding a plot to set a series of devastating forest fires around the western United States.

Rose Davis, a spokeswoman for the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, told The Associated Press that officials there took note of the warning but didn't see a need to act further on it.

The contents of the June 25 memo from the FBI's Denver office were reported Friday by The Arizona Republic. Davis declined to share a copy of the memo and an FBI spokeswoman in Denver didn't immediately return a telephone call.

As we have stated before. If you see anything suspicious, report it to law enforcement immediately.

UPDATE: Video - Officials say arson now suspected in Orange County Fire

UPDATE: From Los Angeles Fox News

"I'm sad to report this is an arson fire," OCFA Chief Chip Prather announced at an early morning briefing. "There were three separate starts: two on one side of the road and one on the other, and obviously we are actively investigating that."

    UPDATE Tuesday Night 10/23/07 An unidentified man was being detained late Tuesday for attempting to light a possible arson fire at the Mojave River Forks Campground near Highway 173 and Arrowhead Lake Road in Hesperia, San Bernardino County Sheriff's spokeswoman Cindy Beavers said.

    About 8:50 p.m., a woman driving past the Mojave Forks Campground witnessed "a subject crouched down and then she saw fire," Beavers said.

    The woman immediately called the police, Beavers said, thus alerting and Sheriff's deputies and CHP officers who were in the area setting up roadblocks.

    Officers found the male suspect on a motorcycle at a nearby mini-market on Arrowhead Lake Road.

    The man has not yet been arrested but the incident is being investigated, Beavers said.

Links - A number of blogs and websites have sprung up to report on the fires. We will provide links to a couple we've found.

National Interagency Fire Center

Live Local News Coverage Channel 10 San Diego

Orange County Register

And Still I Persist

Sign On San Diego Fire Blog

EJinCT

Quote from: raineyrocks on October 24, 2007, 10:22 AM NHFT
Fire officials are now stating that the Orange County Santiago fire was purposely set and there is speculation that other fires may have also been deliberate.

This was my first thought when I saw the magnitude of the burn zone and number of flash points.

Terrorists?  ::)

How about a test for our Govt agencies, or just more drama to keep people mesmerized?  :-\

Tom Sawyer

Often the fires are intentionally set... sometimes by firefighters.

I think if something like this was a terror attack it would only serve their purpose to take credit for it.

I wonder if the agencies that deal with forest fires aren't thinking hey we need some of that homeland security money too.

Smokey the Bear could be part of the DHS.  :P

SethCohn

Quote from: Tom Sawyer on October 24, 2007, 11:38 AM NHFT
Smokey the Bear could be part of the DHS.  :P

Remember kids, only _you_ can prevent the next 9/11!
So turn in your neighbors or parents if you think they are subversives.

kola

whats next? herd all the "victims" into sports arenas?  and take the guns?

katrina part 2.

Kola

Raineyrocks

So much for their claim of a terror attack!  Poor kid probably feels pretty crappy and scared right now.



Boy Admits To Starting LA County Wildfire
Fire Consumed 38,000 Acres, Destroyed 21 Homes

UPDATED: 8:04 am EDT October 31, 2007
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SANTA CLARITA, Calif. -- A boy playing with matches started a fire in north Los Angeles County that consumed more than 38,000 acres and destroyed 21 homes last week, authorities said Tuesday.

The boy, whose name and age were not released, was interviewed a day after the Buckweed Fire was sparked Oct. 21, said sheriff's Sgt. Diane Hecht.

"He admitted to playing with matches and accidentally starting the fire," said Hecht said in a statement.

The boy was released to his parents, and the case will be presented to the district attorney's office, Hecht said.

The Buckweed Fire burned 38,356 acres and is 100 percent contained, according to the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection. The fire damaged 30 structures and 63 structures were destroyed.

Three civilians and one firefighter were injured and the estimated cost of this fire to date is $7.4 million.

The 60-square-mile fire began in an near Agua Dulce. It was among more than a dozen major wildfires that killed 14 people and blackened 809 square miles from Los Angeles to the Mexican border.

Authorities arrested five people for arson during that period, but none have been linked to any of the major blazes.

California Firefighters Want Marines' Help

California firefighters said they want to be able to call on the Marines to help fight any future wildfires.

Confusion over flight rules and the availability of military aircraft left some helicopters grounded early on in last week's deadly blazes.

The California National Guard and the Navy train each year with state firefighters. Officials said the drills pay off when aircraft are called in to fight fires. But the Marines have no comparable agreement.

A Marine spokesman said he can't comment on the possibility of entering into an agreement to train with California firefighters.

The Associated Press reported last week that Marine, Navy and National Guard helicopters were grounded because state personnel required to be on board weren't immediately available.