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People who are party to an evil can be brought to the bar of extralegal justice.

Started by Alex Free Market, May 08, 2009, 03:09 PM NHFT

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John Edward Mercier

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Quote from: Alex Free Market on May 12, 2009, 02:12 AM NHFT
Adverse possession can be a decent doctrine, I think, if narrowly construed.  It follows the Lockean necessity of use.

Nope.  Never.  What's mine is mine.  You have no right to tell me how or when or whether to "use" it.  Maybe I'm just not ready yet, it's nobody else's business.

Easy "Adverse Possession" is a major reason Muslim societies are so poor.

The Dutch create land every day.  They OWN it.



By what natural means did you acquire it?


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And how do you demonstrate to others your ownership?


Recorded deed at courthouse.


And the deed at the courthouse you don't recognize as State enforced?


Sure it is.  Is that what this is about?  I didn't see the part where your position was "All State-Enforced property interests are immoral" or "All State-Enforced activities of all types are immoral."

Okay, let's play that for a while.  Let us know when you want to go back to the other discussion.
Say I have two cars.  I drive off in the red one for a while.  According to my idea of morality, if I come back and someone has taken the blue one without my permission, that is THEFT and it is immoral.  So I call the cops and they incarcerate the thief.  I have just made use of State Enforcement of a Law against Theft.
You got a problem with that?



The car was produced with human labor.

zackbass

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on May 17, 2009, 03:31 AM NHFT
Quote from: zackbass on May 16, 2009, 04:39 PM NHFT
Quote from: John Edward Mercier on May 16, 2009, 03:07 PM NHFT
Quote from: zackbass on May 15, 2009, 12:31 PM NHFT
Quote from: John Edward Mercier on May 15, 2009, 08:59 AM NHFT
Quote from: zackbass on May 14, 2009, 04:04 PM NHFT

Quote from: Alex Free Market on May 12, 2009, 02:12 AM NHFT
Adverse possession can be a decent doctrine, I think, if narrowly construed.  It follows the Lockean necessity of use.

Nope.  Never.  What's mine is mine.  You have no right to tell me how or when or whether to "use" it.  Maybe I'm just not ready yet, it's nobody else's business.

Easy "Adverse Possession" is a major reason Muslim societies are so poor.

The Dutch create land every day.  They OWN it.



By what natural means did you acquire it?


Sent away.

Quote

And how do you demonstrate to others your ownership?


Recorded deed at courthouse.


And the deed at the courthouse you don't recognize as State enforced?


Sure it is.  Is that what this is about?  I didn't see the part where your position was "All State-Enforced property interests are immoral" or "All State-Enforced activities of all types are immoral."

Okay, let's play that for a while.  Let us know when you want to go back to the other discussion.
Say I have two cars.  I drive off in the red one for a while.  According to my idea of morality, if I come back and someone has taken the blue one without my permission, that is THEFT and it is immoral.  So I call the cops and they incarcerate the thief.  I have just made use of State Enforcement of a Law against Theft.
You got a problem with that?



The car was produced with human labor.

Aha so your objection has not one thing to do with whether or not the deed is state enforced.  Can we have that part settled and wish you had not brought it up?  Or shall we dwell on that some more?  Can we proceed without any more of that?

Okay.  So now we are back at the point where you asked how do I demonstrate to others my ownership and I replied that I show them the deed, which has been recorded at the courthouse.  Your turn.