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CheckpointUSA visits NH

Started by TackleTheWorld, October 12, 2009, 10:40 AM NHFT

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TackleTheWorld

Now's your chance to meet Terry, he and his family are visiting NH until Thurs. 

When:   11am Wednesday Oct. 14, 2009
Where:  Panera bread on West St. in Keene
Who:    Everyone who would like to buy that man a beer... uh or a hot chocolate.

Perhaps you've seen or heard of people refusing to answer the citizenship question at US internal roadblocks.  There's this one guy on you tube who just keeps repeating, "Am I being detained?" until the guards get stressed and let him go through.  Ha!  He also won a civil case against police in a roadblock case.



Keyser Soce

Awesome. I'll do my best to make it there. I've been harassed more than once at that same checkpoint between Ajo and the border.

agraftonite

Bummer! Wish I could come! Town meeting night for us here in Grafton. :( I'm a fan! Somebody buy this man a broccoli soup in a bread bowl! they're delicious!

Free libertarian

 I've never met him, (CheckpointUSA) but I like him.

Do rules of  "detaining" vary from state to state?  Or more likely are "they" are still making up the rules as they go along? Any precedent for what a person stopped must answer?

He did a good job of getting the Border Patrol agent to commit first that he wasn't being detained and keeping his emotions in check. 
Even she saw that she had fallen into a trap of logic and you could see her wheels spinning when her trump card of "pull over to the side" was rejected.

I wonder how this would have gone if there had been no camera present.   

KBCraig

Quote from: Free libertarian on October 13, 2009, 06:43 AM NHFT
I've never met him, (CheckpointUSA) but I like him.

Do rules of  "detaining" vary from state to state?  Or more likely are "they" are still making up the rules as they go along? Any precedent for what a person stopped must answer?   

He's certainly way more versed on the law than me (or anyone else), so I'll let him answer in detail. But, here's my understanding:

State rules on "detaining" don't matter. This is the U.S. Border Patrol. They have statutory and case law authority to stop anyone within 100 miles of the border or any point of entry, and, if they have reason to believe the person is not a citizen, demand of them their citizenship information.

That's why these interior "checkpoints" are such a major FAIL: they stop and demand citizenship info from everyone, even when they have no reason to suspect the person isn't a citizen. In CheckpointUSA's case, they know him on sight, they know his name, they know where he lives, and they know he's a U.S. citizen. It's strictly a power game for them: "Answer our questions, or we will screw with you some more!"

Checkpoint

Just wanted to say thanks for the meet and greet along with lunch!

We enjoyed our time in the area and meeting some great folks. Everyone's hospitality was much appreciated!

Keyser Soce

Quote from: Checkpoint on October 22, 2009, 11:46 AM NHFT
Just wanted to say thanks for the meet and greet along with lunch!

We enjoyed our time in the area and meeting some great folks. Everyone's hospitality was much appreciated!

Sorry I missed it. Look forward to meeting you someday. Maybe you can speak at Liberty Forum?