Revolt or at least protest now, Obama expands war with the help of SenatoShaheen

[PattyLee loves dogs]

Tonight Obama sends 30,000. troops to Afganistan, with the complete endorsement of Shaheen. Where is the moral outrage, where is the respect to the American economy?
Washington ensures our slavery. Past due: REVOLT!!!!!!

I don't know how to do this Revolt but how about sign waving protest every where. Tonight I am at 12A/ I 89 protesting. Any one interested???   PL cell: 603-306-6923



PL

[Kat Kanning]

Way to go, Patty!

[Russell Kanning]

Tonight Obama sends 30,000. troops to Afganistan, with the complete endorsement of Shaheen. Where is the moral outrage, where is the respect to the American economy?
Washington ensures our slavery. Past due: REVOLT!!!!!!

PL

i am sure it is all around, but not covered much by the mainstream media outlets
we are kicking out the feds on the 12th, so you can give 'em hell up til then

[lildog]

Democrats were never against the war, they were against Republicans who were for the war and simply used the war as a vote getter.

This is exactly why I objected to all of you who stood outside holding signs against politicians like Sununu.  While he did support the war, the national taxpayers union showed that he had the most fiscally sound voting record of anyone in office.  Now we've succeeded in tossing him on and we have someone much worse.

If you want to protest to get someone out of office make sure someone better is lined up to take their place or you'll end up cutting off your nose in spite of your face.

[BillKauffman]

Democrats were never against the war, they were against Republicans who were for the war and simply used the war as a vote getter.

Obama was pretty clear during his campaign that he thought we (The Republican admin.) were fighting the "wrong war" (we should not be fighting in Iraq but rather Afghanistan)

[Russell Kanning]

i oppose sunununu and obama

[dalebert]

This is exactly why I objected to all of you who stood outside holding signs against politicians like Sununu.  While he did support the war, the national taxpayers union showed that he had the most fiscally sound voting record of anyone in office.  Now we've succeeded in tossing him on and we have someone much worse.

It wasn't really a protest against Sununu. It was a protest against the notion of inviting him to speak at a liberty event. He didn't warrant any special attention before that point that I recall. Do you not think there'd be a protest if Shaheen or Obama were invited to speak? I'd be willing to bet that not a single person who was at that protest gave a flying fuck if he kept his office or was replaced. That protest wasn't about trying to kick him out of his position, but if you're going to credit our protest with the deed, then I might let it go to my head and get on a power trip.

[PattyLee loves dogs]

Netflix available: documentary "No End in Sight" covers powerfully the pingpong game of foreign wars and mayhem through the generations played by administrations of both parties.
A reason I stood with (L and) libertarians 25 years ago, strengthened daily by these observations of how Washington effects my life on a daily basis.

For what it is worth, an unpowerful smuck like my self taking the pathetic action of protest sign waving "Bring Troops Home" reverse side pointed at those probable  Obama supporters: "Shame on Obama and Shaheen $$$" for 90 min beside 12A helped my  adjustment and anger management.
My fantasy which came so close to realization, was to throw a brick through the store front window of the Army recruiter at Shaws. 
Hope to get some continued guidance from my Liberty community. Financially challenged,  I am still attending the Liberty Forum as this along with witness to activist actions helps, reading posts here helps.   

[Russell Kanning]

a sign outside the army recruiters office telling people the government lies .... seems very powerful

[thinkliberty]

This is exactly why I objected to all of you who stood outside holding signs against politicians like Sununu.  While he did support the war, the national taxpayers union showed that he had the most fiscally sound voting record of anyone in office.  Now we've succeeded in tossing him on and we have someone much worse.

War is not fiscally sound.

[lildog]

This is exactly why I objected to all of you who stood outside holding signs against politicians like Sununu.  While he did support the war, the national taxpayers union showed that he had the most fiscally sound voting record of anyone in office.  Now we've succeeded in tossing him on and we have someone much worse.

It wasn't really a protest against Sununu. It was a protest against the notion of inviting him to speak at a liberty event. He didn't warrant any special attention before that point that I recall. Do you not think there'd be a protest if Shaheen or Obama were invited to speak? I'd be willing to bet that not a single person who was at that protest gave a flying fuck if he kept his office or was replaced. That protest wasn't about trying to kick him out of his position, but if you're going to credit our protest with the deed, then I might let it go to my head and get on a power trip.

My point is that you should pick your battles carefully.  I know some of you here don't agree but if you protest those who are at least the lesser evil you only help the greater evil.

Sununu and Sheehan are perfect examples.  I can respect that you had problems with Sununu but Sheehan is hands down the greater evil to personal liberty.

If your protesting turned even 5 people away from voting for him and instead voting for her you hurt liberty, not helped it.

And if you and the others protesting don't giving a "flying fuck" about who's in office then why bother getting involved in the first place?

[dalebert]

And if you and the others protesting don't giving a "flying fuck" about who's in office then why bother getting involved in the first place?

I don't. And for the love of Pete, please don't restart the extremely boring tired old debate about why I should get involved in politics.

[thinkliberty]

If your protesting turned even 5 people away from voting for him and instead voting for her you hurt liberty, not helped it.

And if you and the others protesting don't giving a "flying fuck" about who's in office then why bother getting involved in the first place?

If your promoting of Sununu got even 5 people to vote for him you hurt liberty, not helped it.

I don't think voting for a warmonger brings anyone closer to liberty.

If you don't care about liberty, keep promoting warmongers like Sununu, that way you'll never have a chance for liberty in your lifetime and if your goal is not "liberty in YOUR lifetime" then why bother getting involved in the liberty movement in the first place?

Some of us here are pursuing liberty, I am not in pursuit to maintain the status quo.

[PattyLee loves dogs]

Votes for the current Democrat or Republican is certainly wasted except for a rare Trojan horse candidates like Ron Paul. I would posit that voting Libertarian is a real message of principle to send as an individual .... Voting does not have to be about aligning with a winning side. It is not a football game. Admittedly I have gotten really tired of actual campaign work and am not proposing a campaign here. No claim to know much here.
I have just been lazy but I will get up and do something even to make a pathetic protest. Appreciate Russel's posting the sign idea on the storefront of the recruiter, but admit my state of chickenhood. 
Peaceful free speech Antiwar activty or FIJA at this time is the best battle to fight now for me. Watching kids go into the recruiter to come home dead or at least casualties of PTS is the embodiment of the greatest most pervasive evil possible. The prevailing intolerable message largely unchallenged is the jingoist crap coming out of the Murdock media and Washington.  A glaring truth is that war has not been exclusive to Democrat or Reublican admisistrations.  Check out antiwar.com. I for one have wasted a lot of time but I don't have to continue, maybe risking foolish action is better than no action?   . Now to go take my meds (kidding)...listen to Joni Mitchell and rebalance tonight but tomorrow evening I will be out on I89/ 12A. 

[Russell Kanning]

My point is that you should pick your battles carefully.  I know some of you here don't agree but if you protest those who are at least the lesser evil you only help the greater evil.

Sununu and Sheehan are perfect examples.  I can respect that you had problems with Sununu but Sheehan is hands down the greater evil to personal liberty.

i haven't protested sunununu
so did you make it to protest shea-porter?
we are now going to protest the whole federal government and obama .... care to join us?