Biden Says Obama to Use “Executive Action” to Restrict Second Amendment

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Biden Says Obama to Use "Executive Action" to Restrict Second Amendment       

Kurt Nimmo
Prison Planet.com
January 9, 2012
On Wednesday during a press conference with attorney general Eric Holder, vice president Joe Biden said president Obama is considering taking "executive action" to restrict the Second Amendment rights of the American people.

"The president is going to act," said Biden. "There are executives orders, there's executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action that we believe is required."

"As the president said, if you're actions result in only saving one life, they're worth taking. But I'm convinced we can affect the well-being of millions of Americans and take thousands of people out of harm's way if we act responsibly."

In other words, according to the Obama administration and the Justice Department, if trashing the Constitution saves one life, it is worth it.

Issuing an executive action, unlike an executive order, does not modify a law. Executive actions, a Obama administration office told NBC News in October, concern "regulation, enforcement, statements of policy... and numerous other things."

Obama, unlike his predecessors, "is not expanding executive power to meet the demands of an external crisis. Instead, he is counteracting a new pattern of partisan behavior – nonstop congressional obstruction – with a new, partisan pattern of his own," Andrew Romano and Daniel Klaidman wrote for Newsweek prior to the election.

White House communications director Dan Pfeiffer told Newsweek Obama will "work with Congress where we can – and then be willing to act where they won't."

Obama has already used executive action to instruct the ATF to conficate guns. In September, Obama's Justice Department gave the ARF authority to "seize and administratively forfeit property involved in controlled-substance abuses." In other words, the agency now has the power to seize firearms from people not convicted of a crime or even charged with a crime.

In July, as the Fast and Furious scandal unfolded, Obama's Justice Department devised new rules requiring border-state gun dealers to report large purchases of firearms made by individual buyers over short periods of time.

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Biden vows recommendations by Tuesday on curbing gun violenceBy Josh Levs, CNN
updated 9:51 AM EST, Fri January 11, 2013

(CNN) -- A federal task force looking for ways to curb gun violence will have a set of recommendations by Tuesday, Vice President Joe Biden announced Thursday.

Speaking during a week of meetings with disparate groups on various sides of the issue -- including some for and others against stricter gun controls -- Biden, who oversees the task force, said the recommendations to be given to President Barack Obama will serve as a beginning.

"This doesn't mean it is the end of the discussion, but the public wants us to act," he told reporters.

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Obama called for the task force after last month's massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, in which 27 people were killed -- 20 of them elementary school children.

Biden said he's been surprised by how many groups have encouraged universal background checks for all gun owners, including those who purchase through private sales.


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The National Rifle Association said it was "disappointed" with a White House task force meeting Thursday, saying it expected mental health, the "marketing of violence to our kids" and school safety to be top topics.

"We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment," the group said in a statement. "While claiming that no policy proposals would be prejudged, this task force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners -- honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans."

The group indicated it will now concentrate its efforts through members of Congress.

NRA President David Keene told CNN's "The Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer" that little common ground was found. An exception was a possible agreement to place "potentially violent" mentally ill people on a national database of those not allowed to buy firearms, Keene said.

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Biden called it a complicated issue, emphasizing that there is "no singular solution to how we deal with" mass shootings.

Many stakeholders in the issue have met with members of the task force, Biden said, including medical and religious groups, educators and parents.

Concerns about mental health may be "one of the most important things that we've been focusing on," he said.

Biden also noted that many firearm deaths in the United States are suicides.

Referring to one of the most contentious issues -- whether to reinstate an assault weapons ban -- Biden said he has never heard so much support for "the need to do something about high-capacity magazines."

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The task force also was meeting with members of the entertainment industry to discuss violence in movies and TV shows.

Obama has spoken out about a culture that often "glorifies guns and violence."

Dan Glickman, a former congressman and onetime head of the Motion Picture Association of America, rejects suggestions of links between films and real-life violence.

"I don't think the abundance of movies that are put out by the entertainment industry are that violent or cause violence," he told CNN on Thursday.

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Also, Glickman said, "Hollywood does a pretty good job of letting parents know through its ratings system what kind of movie is coming out -- whether there's violence or sexual conduct or other kinds of things."

Glickman was a U.S. representative from Kansas for nine terms but lost a re-election bid in 1994. He blames that loss partly on supporting an assault weapons ban.

"I would vote for it again and thought it was the right thing to do," he said Thursday. He called it "a very politically sensitive issue," particularly among law-abiding gun owners who see it as a threat to their ownership of guns.

Biden said Wednesday that while legislative action is needed to prevent mass shootings, Obama is also exploring executive orders.

Keene, the NRA president, told CNN that "some things you can do by executive orders, some things you can't do by executive orders. Some things you do by executive orders need money to be implemented, and that's up to Congress."

Wal-Mart, Dick's Sporting Goods and Bass Pro Shops were among 10 retailers who were to meet Thursday with Attorney General Eric Holder, who is part of the panel.

Wal-Mart, the nation's largest retailer, triggered controversy earlier in the week when it said its officials were unavailable to attend the meeting because of scheduling. The company soon reversed its decision, saying it had "underestimated the expectation to attend."

The NRA has argued that it is committed to keeping people protected, but that a focus on stricter gun control is misguided.

NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre has called for all U.S. schools to have armed guards. Keene later told CNN the group supports schools choosing whether they want armed guards.

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CNN's Brooke Baldwin contributed to this report.

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Obama Executive Orders on Guns Would Spark Mass Resistance
Alex Newman
New American
January 11, 2013

As the Obama administration openly vows to use unconstitutional "executive orders" to further infringe on the right to keep and bear arms, gun rights activists, members of the law enforcement community, military personnel and others are pledging to resist. Everything from an armed uprising and nationwide civil disobedience to legal means of resistance like the courts and nullification is being openly discussed online and even in the establishment media.

"The president is going to act," pledged Vice President Joe Biden, who is leading an administration task force to further restrict gun rights in the wake of the Newtown massacre. "Executive order, executive action can be taken, we haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the attorney general and all the rest of the cabinet members, as well as legislative action we believe is required."

The Constitution, of course, reserves all legislative powers to Congress — not to mention the specific prohibition against infringements on gun rights contained in the Second Amendment. But disgraced Attorney General Eric Holder, who is helping develop the "executive action" plot, was caught in the 1990s on video calling for a tax-funded campaign to "brainwash" people against guns. He was also held in criminal contempt of Congress for lying about Operation Fast and Furious, which saw the Justice Department providing thousands of powerful guns to Mexican drug cartels through the ATF.

Appearing on CNN, Gun Owners of America chief Larry Pratt (pictured) said assaults on the Second Amendment imposed unilaterally by a lawless president would call the legitimacy of the federal government into question. Noting that Obama has already been ruling by decree in realms where he "has no authority" and that Biden is openly discussing "executive action" to deal with firearms, the no-compromise gun rights activist said any such unconstitutional presidential decrees infringing on the Second Amendment would have dire implications.

"That, I think, changes the game and throws into question the legitimacy of the federal government," Pratt told rabid anti-gun CNN host Piers Morgan, a Brit who has come under fire in recent weeks for his oftentimes disrespectful and hostile attitude toward defenders of the Second Amendment. "I would advise Mr. Obama to consider what happened to [King] George the third when he was doing similar things against the American colonists."

Meanwhile, former Congressman and GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul, who has millions of ardent supporters across America, suggested to radio host Alex Jones that "executive orders" purporting to ban guns may well spark a second American revolution. Jones himself made similar remarks in a heated interview this week on CNN as well, saying an assault on gun rights would lead to another revolution, drawing praise from his legions of followers but controversy in some conservative and libertarian circles.

During the interview, Ron Paul pointed out the hypocrisy of trying to infringe on the rights of Americans due to the actions of a murderer even as the Obama administration continues killing children all over the world using drones. "It should go without saying that he's gone way too far. It also should go without saying that he's acting with the use of illegal violence, and he becomes the violent person," Rep. Paul explained. "These are dictatorial moves; they are very, very dangerous."

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Tuesday? They've had their plan ready for decades, just waiting for the opportunity.

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I wish that folks weren't so easily baited into this.

First off... I believe Biden misspoke when he said Executive Order... he meant Executive action ie. get ATF or Justice Department to crackdown on existing rules and regs.

Second if Obama was going to go all tyrant and just do what he wanted why did he appoint Biden to do this silly study of the subject? Because he is using Biden as a lightning rod to take all the political heat. They know that these efforts are unlikely to succeed.

Alex Jones, the NRA etc are selling fear... because it benefits there agendas. Alex takes a kernel of truth and stretches it to the extreme, why because it benefits his radio show. So idiot Biden says something then Alex makes it into house to house confiscation of guns. 

The left is baiting the fringe nutters on the right into getting all freaked out and doing or saying something that will benefit their agenda. Take the heat out of the argument and let them ramble on about their own nonsense till they run out of steam.

Partisan BS is the root of most of the evil we experience... people that enjoy hating the "others". The NRA does not speak for me... they sold out "Gun Rights" long ago.

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I wish that folks weren't so easily baited into this.

First off... I believe Biden misspoke when he said Executive Order... he meant Executive action ie. get ATF or Justice Department to crackdown on existing rules and regs.

Second if Obama was going to go all tyrant and just do what he wanted why did he appoint Biden to do this silly study of the subject? Because he is using Biden as a lightning rod to take all the political heat. They know that these efforts are unlikely to succeed.

Alex Jones, the NRA etc are selling fear... because it benefits there agendas. Alex takes a kernel of truth and stretches it to the extreme, why because it benefits his radio show. So idiot Biden says something then Alex makes it into house to house confiscation of guns. 

The left is baiting the fringe nutters on the right into getting all freaked out and doing or saying something that will benefit their agenda. Take the heat out of the argument and let them ramble on about their own nonsense till they run out of steam.

Partisan BS is the root of most of the evil we experience... people that enjoy hating the "others". The NRA does not speak for me... they sold out "Gun Rights" long ago.

I do think Alex blows a lot of things out of proportion but in my opinion even without Alex's input this is the beginning process of "them" going after our guns.  Yeah, I doubt it will be next week but I think they are definitely testing the water and if they see that it will work they will do it.  I hope I'm wrong and you're right about them running out of steam on all of this.

Yeah the NRA is a joke, I like that guy Larry Pratt, I can't remember off the top of my head what organization he belongs to.  I wonder how many people know that the NRA is a big sell-out or do you think most people believe they are the true spokespeople for gun rights?