actually doing nothing

[Kat Kanning]

I'm sure the culprit left a telltale sign on the first post of the thread.

[Lloyd Danforth]

whoops!.................Kat showed me how!

[Tunga]

Remember the original post, folks.  Our job is to build up a pool of grass roots activists, swing voters, donors, and future candidates.  All that matters is swinging votes.  The rest is b---shit.

Talk just wastes time, unless it helps the FSP.  Our goal is to get the state off of our backs.  Every bad law results in good people being thrown in jail.  Every bad program encroaches on our rights as taxpayers.  The existence of each agency creates the potential for serious problems for NHites.  It's our job to pull people together, to get folks organized.  There is powerful political machinery at work, gradually pushing good people out of office and bad people in.

We have a responsibility as Americans to fight for our country.  We serve in the military, on jury duty, in neighborhood watch programs... we pledge allegiance to the flag.  We owe a civil obligation to vote responsibily.  We only have those rights we are willing to fight for.  Protesting, in my experience, does little good at best, and harms these causes at worst.

Protest all you like, but it's the right to vote, and ultimately, the right to bear arms, that preserves our freedom.

It is precisely the fact that informed, independent, libertarian voters are few and far between that the worst politicians are getting reelected--that the Ron Pauls of America have such a difficult time getting reelected.

--Max

Max taxpayers don't have rights. They have priviledges that can be revoked.

When you sign the oath of a voter registration card you are swearing to being a "US citizen." This is also true for jury duty. 

Now maybe you think the 14th Amendment is a real thing with real power to make all those born in the USA  US citizens.

This is not true at all. The proof is in the pudding as they say. Tunga is happy to share the recipe.

[Tunga]

Are you not allowed to camp in any of NH's government forests without paying?

No I think that there is a charge.

That's crazy.  Even in places like IL they have national forests that allow you to camp for free.  Maybe you can at the national forest in NH.  BTW, I am not talking about campsites, just land with few trees that you are allowed to camp on as long you don't make it ugly.

There is a parking fee that can't be enforced because it was never enacted into positive law.
If you go deep into the woods, get 200 ft. off the trail you can stay as long as you like for free.

[FrankChodorov]

Are you not allowed to camp in any of NH's government forests without paying?

No I think that there is a charge.

That's crazy.  Even in places like IL they have national forests that allow you to camp for free.  Maybe you can at the national forest in NH.  BTW, I am not talking about campsites, just land with few trees that you are allowed to camp on as long you don't make it ugly.

There is a parking fee that can't be enforced because it was never enacted into positive law.
If you go deep into the woods, get 200 ft. off the trail you can stay as long as you like for free.

of course you have no legal right to be there...

[tracysaboe]

If nobody owns it he has no legal anti-right to be there either.

If the government owns it, then they're illegitimate owners seeing is their ownership is based on coersion and confiscation.

Tracy

[FrankChodorov]

If the government owns it, then they're illegitimate owners seeing is their ownership is based on coersion and confiscation.

all ownership over territory involves coercion and/or confiscation

[Dreepa]

unless we pay rent to someone right?

[Tunga]

The white Mt National Forest was ceeded to the US Gov. by mutal acts of both the Congress and NH State legislatures. It's not technically in NH. When your in there you're subject to District of Criminals laws and regs.

[CNHT]

The white Mt National Forest was ceeded to the US Gov. by mutal acts of both the Congress and NH State legislatures. It's not technically in NH. When your in there you're subject to District of Criminals laws and regs.

Aha, it's an 'International Zone'? This is a UN thing...very very bad. We have many zones like this in our country...virtually giving it away in my book.

[FrankChodorov]

unless we pay rent to someone right?

the coercion is the economic rent from the excluded denying their self-ownership.

ask Jane.

[Caleb]

The white Mt National Forest was ceeded to the US Gov. by mutal acts of both the Congress and NH State legislatures. It's not technically in NH. When your in there you're subject to District of Criminals laws and regs

Well, then, when we declare our independence we'll have to insist that they give the White Mountains back.

[tracysaboe]

unless we pay rent to someone right?

Make that, unless we're coersed to pay rent to you right?

Tracy

[tracysaboe]

The white Mt National Forest was ceeded to the US Gov. by mutal acts of both the Congress and NH State legislatures. It's not technically in NH. When your in there you're subject to District of Criminals laws and regs

Well, then, when we declare our independence we'll have to insist that they give the White Mountains back.

It didn't legitimately belong to the State of NH or the U.S. congress to begin with. Such a gift is null and void.

Politicians are always trying to give away things that aren't theirs.

Tracy

[Fluff and Stuff]

The white Mt National Forest was ceeded to the US Gov. by mutal acts of both the Congress and NH State legislatures. It's not technically in NH. When your in there you're subject to District of Criminals laws and regs

Great.  That means we may camp there without paying an additional fees.