P2P Network Programs

[PowerPenguin]

Does anyone know of a good, actually somewhat *easy* to use p2p program that is secure/anonymous/replicating like freenet? Such a system that is anonymous and makes it very difficult to destroy data from the network as a whole could be a vabluable tool for data exchange in the freedom movement.

[Minsk]

Let me bump that and second the question. I have never found anything that provides both good performance and good security, to say nothing of the lack of user-friendly solutions. Tor does a good job and I2P shows promise, but neither helps if your computer is seized.

[d_goddard]

neither helps if your computer is seized.

That's what encrypted filesystems are for.

[aries]

http://www.zeropaid.com/filetopia/
http://www.zeropaid.com/waste/
http://www.zeropaid.com/foldershare/
http://www.zeropaid.com/exosee/

And if all else fails there's always private IRC channels.

[Minsk]

neither helps if your computer is seized.

That's what encrypted filesystems are for.

Most of them are IMO utterly useless for that purpose, they can only prevent you getting nailed for unrelated things. A court will simply order you to provide the key to whatever information they want to recover, and throw you in jail if you refuse. Some multi-layer encryption schemes do allow you to surrender keys to low security levels while not revealing that higher levels exist, which just means you wind up in jail for a slightly weaker contempt of court charge ("we have evidence that the data is in there, but the defendent refuses to disclose the encryption key").

http://www.zeropaid.com/filetopia/
http://www.zeropaid.com/waste/
http://www.zeropaid.com/foldershare/
http://www.zeropaid.com/exosee/

And if all else fails there's always private IRC channels.

AFAIK, none of the above are storage-capable networks, so do not contribute any more to your security than Tor would. Just to push this in the direction I am curious about (and I think the OP was, I generally try to avoid threadjacking):

The cops can raid houses and seize computers, they can raid businesses and seize servers, all more-or-less at the drop of a hat (or a complaint, in Michael Gannon's case). What I really want to get my hands on is a network that one could hook up to a surveillance system. It would have to handle pushing low-resolution audio and video up so that it is impossible to prevent it from spreading or to trace its current location(s). Then toss an access link out to a forum and everyone in the world can see the video...

Tor to an offshore FTP server is basically the only possibility today, and even then you get caught up with court orders. Not _being able_ to do something is a rather better defence than not wanting to do something...

[PowerPenguin]

TrueCrypt is good, in that you can have hidden volumes that can (optionally) require a crypt key as well as a password. But again, there's the phyicality issue. InfoAnarchy used to be a good resource, but their domain has been down for a while now. The people over there are good to the point that I doubt anything perminantly dissapeared, but I have no idea where it went, which doesn't help. Anyone have any ideas on this?

Alternatively, I can save encrypted data anonymously within the TinyURL system, but you need a key in order to get it out; You'd have to have that key backed up somewhere, presumably within another crypted system.

[aries]

perhaps you should ask slashdot?

[BaRbArIaN]

http://freenet.sourceforge.net/faq.html?PHPSESSID=455ae680cdfb2bf04a0253f41183d0a1

Freenet isn't too bad, it encrypts files on all participating machines and you don't know what the key is but you have access to all files on all networks etc.  I don't know if it is ideal yet but they are working on it.   

[BaRbArIaN]

http://freenetproject.org/

It now has a useful feature, lets groups of individuals set up an encrypted "darknet".    Might be interesting but of course in today's climate just setting up one probably is enough to send in the clowns.

[J’raxis 270145]

neither helps if your computer is seized.

That's what encrypted filesystems are for.

Most of them are IMO utterly useless for that purpose, they can only prevent you getting nailed for unrelated things. A court will simply order you to provide the key to whatever information they want to recover, and throw you in jail if you refuse. Some multi-layer encryption schemes do allow you to surrender keys to low security levels while not revealing that higher levels exist, which just means you wind up in jail for a slightly weaker contempt of court charge ("we have evidence that the data is in there, but the defendent refuses to disclose the encryption key").

The three primary possibilities for which one could be arrested for computer-related offenses—massive "intellectual property" infringement, illegal pornography, or terrorist activity—all have sentences far worse than that which a contempt charge could result in. A few days up to a few months in jail is better than hundreds of thousands of dollars in statutory damages, placement on the sex-offender registry, or years to decades in prison.

[J’raxis 270145]

http://freenetproject.org/

It now has a useful feature, lets groups of individuals set up an encrypted "darknet".    Might be interesting but of course in today's climate just setting up one probably is enough to send in the clowns.

How is a network where everyone knows everyone else an improvement over anonymous participation? The entire network could be disassembled by the State in the same way they take down "organized crime" gangs: Grab one guy, who snitches on two others, who snitch on half a dozen more, who...