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What do you mean, McCain's not a socialist?

Started by error, August 19, 2008, 02:47 PM NHFT

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John Edward Mercier

LOL. Alaska was purchased from Russia by the US. Its not like the original thirteen States that existed prior to the 'treaty between the States' (US Constitution).

error

The elephants and the donkeys have all the power.

KBCraig

Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 01, 2008, 02:00 PM NHFT
Forget the vice presidency: does Sarah Palin even want to be an American?

QuoteBefore Sarah Palin joined the Republican Party she was a member of the Alaska Independence Party, a fringe group that wants Alaska to secede from the United States. Why did Palin join the Republican Party? The Alaska Independence Party's plans include infilitrating the major parties in order to advance the AIP's agenda: the separation of Alaska from the United States.

Quote from: Russell Kanning on September 01, 2008, 02:10 PM NHFT
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See? You just have to know how to appeal to your audience.  ;D

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: Pat McCotter on September 01, 2008, 02:00 PM NHFT
Forget the vice presidency: does Sarah Palin even want to be an American?

QuoteBefore Sarah Palin joined the Republican Party she was a member of the Alaska Independence Party, a fringe group that wants Alaska to secede from the United States. Why did Palin join the Republican Party? The Alaska Independence Party's plans include infilitrating the major parties in order to advance the AIP's agenda: the separation of Alaska from the United States.

Didn't one of Obama's friends blow some building up back when he was a Weatherman?  I see this as a 'push' :P

KBCraig

Sounds like Palin could be from NH...

http://www.reason.com/convention2008/show/128519.html

The View on Palin from an Alaskan Anti-Real ID Activist and Democrat
Matt Welch | September 2, 2008, 5:24pm

I ran into anti-Real ID activist Bill Scannell, "the man who helped kill CAPPS II," and asked him what intelligence he can give us about Sarah Palin, governor of the state he's lived in for the past several years. Scannell is a Democrat, a long-time acquaintance of mine, and as such should be taken with a few grains of salt.

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Q: I was just talking to someone who claimed to have knowledge of Alaska to some degree, and they say where Sarah Palin comes from it's the equivalent of Humboldt or Chico in California, like, of course, you know, she'd have a Girls Gone Wild phase, and smoking pot. Is this just wishcasting, or what can you tell us about her geographical background?

A: So the Mat-Su Valley, you know, Matanuska-Susitna Valley, otherwise known as Upper Wingnuttia, is full of right-wing libertarian militia fundamendalist Christian gun-toting, pot-growing dope-heads.

Q: Awesome.

A: Yeah. If Jerry Falwell rolled his own, you would have the Mat-Su Valley.

Pat McCotter

I'm not saying Palin ascribes to this, but...

From the Mat-Su Valley News website:

QuoteGlobal Warming is not, and has never been, about science so much as about revolution. The Greens who promote this theory seek nothing short of the reorganization of Humanity into a post-industrial world with severe limits placed on industry, on wealth, on energy usage. The purpose of these limits is to dismantle the industrial civilization we have built so that a return to the primitive state may be attained. They think that they can reduce the world's population from billions to millions, and return the human race to a simpler, more peaceful time.

John Edward Mercier

For many that is true.
What they lack understanding of is the fundamental synergy of efficiency creates greater production.

For example factory stacks can be seen as mini, nearly perpetual volcanoes. Volcanoes give off heat, particulate, sulfur dioxide, carbon dioxide, water vapor, etc.
During the early 70s, these outputs were lowering the ambient temps in areas around them... but the clean air act removed much of the particulate decreasing some of the cooling effect. Then the Cap and Trade mechanism on sulfur dioxide helped remove much of the remaining cooling effect triggering further increases. The free market is already looking for a way to harness the heat, and the CO2 will be not different... just another valuable resource.