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   For those new to web forums: Don't feed the trolls
« on: February 09, 2005, 03:36 PM NHFT » Quote Split Topic 

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We're about to have a problem which is, as they say, the kind of problem you want to have...because only successful web forums have it.

Sooner or later as this site gets more popular it will, like all web forums, start attracting a lot of trolls, i.e. people who are here to destroy the environment of our little web community.  Some will make personal attacks or start flame wars, others will resort to sexual references.  Still others will simply try to eat up your time with debate. They'd rather see you debating them than taking action for liberty.  The important thing is not to give them what they want. 

Every troll has a slightly different motivation but most of them want one or more of the folllowing:

1) Attention, hateful or otherwise.

2) To drive away people from the forum by making it a less friendly place

3) To force moderators to delete their posts so they can accuse someone of violating their free speech

The important thing is generally to not give them what they want.   Don't respond to them, don't leave the forum because of them and (in the case of moderators) don't delete their posts unless it's really necessary and deletion appears to be supported by the other participants.

Take trolls for what they are:  A sign of success and a test of your will.  Pass the test by sticking with us and giving the bad guys no aid and comfort.

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So am I a bad guy/ TROLL for looking for an assembly?

Are you passing the test?

All I ask is to unite legally with a chance to take back our county and my words have been mixed and tossed around...  Why even respond to me if I have no one taking.

Maybe because you know I am telling the truth and I am just like you but for some reason you don't like how I come off...

Well I'm NOT sorry for being me.  I am a man with 4 beautiful children that is looking for people to take action to take back our country and instead I am a troll testing you and those that respond to me

YOU FAIL!

[BillKauffman]

in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.

That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.

But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.

[THEGENERAL]

in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.

That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.

But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.

Exactly

[Tom Sawyer]

Well Bill Grennon and THE GENERAL are on their way to creating the assembly, good luck guys, let us know how it works out.

Of course I'm a little suspect of it working. I mean don't you think that some other folks would have already achieved success using this method? Or will THE GENERAL be that pivotal character in history that our great-grandchildren will learn about?

[THEGENERAL]

You know, the more I looked at it I really don't like THEGENERAL...

All I ask is that people listen to this chance for change, where it is our right, with out being so negative.

It is not only our right but it is our duty.

[FTL_Ian]

We assembled more than 25 people on Sunday and the government did not crumble.  What happens after the 25 people get together in your plan, THEGENERAL?

We organize with signatures...  This holds weight.

Signatures on a piece of paper don't weigh much.  What's the next step? 

[AntonLee]

in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.

That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.

But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.

there is no problem unless you plan on using your plan to force me to do things.  Have your meetings, conference calls, circle jerks, whatever. . . .none of it is or ever will be anything to do with me.  I've seen the racist bigoted conservative right in action.  If someone is going to "take back the country" I sure the hell don't want it to be those people.

[ByronB]

in a republic a majority can over rule and oppress a minority. I for one know I am not part of the majority and that participating in "the republic" is quite futile as an end all solution, using the governments rules to try to bring about freedom is and always will be a losing war.

That is why you have a constitution and bill of rights.

But the problem is no one here understands that civic republicanism was about everyone participating (deliberating in small-scale, face-to-face, assemblies) so no one would be subject to arbitrary rule.

there is no problem unless you plan on using your plan to force me to do things.  Have your meetings, conference calls, circle jerks, whatever. . . .none of it is or ever will be anything to do with me.  I've seen the racist bigoted conservative right in action.  If someone is going to "take back the country" I sure the hell don't want it to be those people.

LMAO, couldn't have said it better myself.

I don't want some committee or some petition organizers making rules to fit the lowest common denominator in our society, I want power to go back to the individual, "the republic" can kiss my ass.

[THEGENERAL]

I don't know how much more off you could be, but I'll leave it at that.

Over and over you make it our to be what you want it to be, except free. 

You organize here, you make comments here, but when it comes time to matter... you wish nothing but what?  I still have not figured out what you all want to see.

I see freekeene bloggers go to face these guys, to what?  Ask not to raise taxes...  What if they came with real backing... Oh the people are on their side....  That would get things done.

And still I ask... What would you all have?

What has history taught you...  Wait it out and die, or do your duty and stand up for your self.

I just don't get what you all want to see...  I have heard no one propose anything else but bitch and complain about someone else's problem.  When does it become yours?

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Ok... So now, let the attack begin once again...
for some reason I'm drawn to this forum because you all seem to be some big ass critics that will shoot everything down... you missed the plane headed for the pentagon... I mean missile...

[AntonLee]

that wasn't a missile it was someone farting something nasty.  It exploded.

When you decide to storm the Nation's Capital. . . please tell them you're with the NH Legislature or Blue Hampshire or something and not the FSP or any real freedom groups. 

[ByronB]

I don't know how much more off you could be, but I'll leave it at that.

Over and over you make it our to be what you want it to be, except free. 

You organize here, you make comments here, but when it comes time to matter... you wish nothing but what?  I still have not figured out what you all want to see.

I see freekeene bloggers go to face these guys, to what?  Ask not to raise taxes...  What if they came with real backing... Oh the people are on their side....  That would get things done.

And still I ask... What would you all have?

What has history taught you...  Wait it out and die, or do your duty and stand up for your self.

I just don't get what you all want to see...  I have heard no one propose anything else but bitch and complain about someone else's problem.  When does it become yours?

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Ok... So now, let the attack begin once again...
for some reason I'm drawn to this forum because you all seem to be some big ass critics that will shoot everything down... you missed the plane headed for the pentagon... I mean missile...

I still have no idea what you are really proposing, if you can't change people's minds a republic is useless, and a list of signatures isn't going to do crap to change people's minds.

So, if by "shoot(ing) everything down" you mean calling a scam artists website (as well as a petition) utterly useless and a waste of resources then yes I will "shoot everything down".