The Obama Deception

[Kat Kanning]

http://newhampshirefreepress.com/?q=node/366
Transcription of Obama Deception movie.

Are there a lot of typos left in this?  Anyone feel like reading it?

[MTPorcupine3]

I was hoping you would beat me to posting a link. It's a must see documentary.

[Ryan McGuire]

Thanks for linking to the transcription, there is an awful lot of good material in there.

I watched this a week or so ago. I thought that overall it was a decent film, especially the parts that showed Obama's appointees and how he's gone back on almost all of his campaign promises. It's something that people need to hear right now.

However, I think it's a bit misdirected when it focuses just on the bad people in charge. It's the entire system that is corrupt, not just the particular people presently in charge.

I thought the movie should have not focused so heavily on the bilderburgs and the fed. Yes, they are part of the problem, but focusing on them makes it seem like government would be OK if only we could just get those people out of the picture and get newer, more principled people in. The truth is though, it won't be OK. The fed is not the root of the problem. It's the legal tender laws. Sure, the fed is "private" (not really), and it isn't audited, and we can't really be sure who all is running it, but it's the congressionally mandated legal tender laws, that are completely public, that gives the fed its power. It's congress (and by extension, the entire government) that's the problem.

My point is this: If we got rid of the fed, disenfranchised the bilderburgs, got rid of all the 'bad' politicians, and even got rid of the legal tender laws, but we left the existing governmental paradigm in place, a decade from now we'd be in the same damn situation we're in, just with newly corrupted politicians, new fascist organizations, and new legal tender laws.

Again, not a bad movie, but Mr. Jones could learn a thing or two from Thoreau:

There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root.

Government is the root of the problem, not any secret organization. The government blatantly and unashamedly demonstrates their authority over us at every stage and action of our lives. It's everywhere to be seen. Everything that government does violates individual liberties. You don't have to go searching for conspiracies to find the problem.

[Keyser Soce]

I was thinking when I saw this were that it would be good for outreach to the neocons since the title would get their attention but he also goes into the fact that Bush, Clinton and Bush were in on it. They can start out being anti Obama but hopefully it will get them thinking about the bigger picture.

[freedominnh]

duh

[Russell Kanning]

I agree with you Ryan ... I have never found Alex Jones' solutions to work. It makes more sense to dismantle the system by not cooperating with it.

All the stuff Obama is doing shows blatantly what the goals are ... they want our money and compliance.

[Kat Kanning]

What bugs me about libertarians is that there will be one flaw in something someone says, and they'll jump all over that flaw and ignore everything else.  That Alex Jones' solutions suck doesn't mean his statement of the problem is wrong.  Isn't it possible to take what's useable from someone's work and just let the rest drop?

I posted this asking for help.  What I got was a bunch of debate    Thanks.

(FYI, I don't need help anymore.)

[jaqeboy]

What bugs me about libertarians is that there will be one flaw in something someone says, and they'll jump all over that flaw and ignore everything else.  That Alex Jones' solutions suck doesn't mean his statement of the problem is wrong.  Isn't it possible to take what's useable from someone's work and just let the rest drop?

Kat, this is the destructive "intellectual perfectionism" meme (one origin of this was Ayn Rand's personal approach, which polluted the good aspects of her philosophy). It makes those memesters "exclusive" and creates enemies (of those who are not "intellectually perfect") and restricts the movement's growth. Utilizing "inclusive" memes helps us grow the movement.

[Ryan McGuire]

I said it before, I'll say it again, I thought it was a fine movie.

I'm not trying to create any enemies here, far from it, I consider all of you my friends. I'm just trying to find the most effective way of obtaining liberty in my lifetime.

Obviously ranting on a message board isn't going to do that, so I'll drop this issue for now.

[jaqeboy]

Oh, Ryan, I wasn't bashing you!!! I think it's good to critique Alex Jones - he obviously offends many, but I give him credit for his good works, which it looks like you do, too. I was just making the comment, per Jack analysis, about some things I see, which Kat seems to see, too.

As you know, I think "You da best!"

[jaqeboy]

Obviously ranting on a message board isn't going to do that, so I'll drop this issue for now.

Yeah, every once in a while, we've got to hit the bricks and interact with "the others." 

[freedominnh]

 

[Kat Kanning]

Didn't really mean to pick on you, Ryan